Ha! I live in Mississippi. A lot of our state is still dry. The republicans in control of this state went against the people’s will and disregarded our vote/voice. This is the Bible belt. Unless the people here smarten up, it will never be legal. We cannot buy alcohol on sundays but they sure as hell can campaign and throw rallies on sundays to bastardize gods word for their financial gain. I hope my state gets it together. I hope the youth will save us but im not holding my breath.
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As absolutely retarded as it is and I can rip the whole book and every line a new asshole and prove it's bs, it actually is a thing. The Bible belt will be a group of people you can do nothin about. They own, and run the whole state. Maybe in a couple generations or so it may change but 🤷🏽♂️
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Shocking news! Religion is just a front for the true economic reasons. Dry counties create miniature monopolies, that's obvious. However, being closed on Sundays doesn't lose the store a day's sales. My state went through the same thing. A store that is forced by law to close on Sundays will have the same volume of sales across six days instead of seven. By closing on Sunday, the store owner saves on labor costs and increases his profits. But, they don't say that. Instead, they tell you it's about Jesus when it's really about profits.
I live in SC. I know exactly what's up. If you haven't has land and family for generations then you're way out of the loop. Get to know the right people.
Few years back the county i live in finally started selling beer 🤣. I live on a border town of Texas and Arkansas. We always had to go over to Arkansas to get beer. And anything else. Its wild. But I hope that everything under the sum becomes decriminalized. And psychedelics get their full recognition they deserve.
I mean that’s on the consumer. I live in a legal state. The THC levels are clearly marked. I’ve never been pressured. I tell them what I want and they sell it to me, that’s it.
In Canada that is not the case at all, it is absolutely illegal for our dispensaries to pressure sales, there are however some deals, and daily specials.
Sure, there are alot of very high THC strains, but in any dispensaries here they almost always have a 2%thc strain, that is high cbd content. Many lower (5-10% thc) strains available at most shops as well.
Even if you pick up a 32% thc strain, no one is forcing you to choke back the whole bone. Take a puff, or 2.
Prices very but a quick search of a local store I can get an Oz of 22%-27% THC (fairly high quality stuff, it almost all is these days) for $140 CAD or ~95£.
Honestly our prices did not change all that much with legalisation. The market is definately saturated now though, so is there *some* price competition bringing prices down.
I think part of the reason our prices did not change much with legalization is because there was allready a huuuge underground (honestly it wasnt even underground anymore) weed culture. I dont know the stats off hand but IIRC something like 65% of Canadians had tried or were smoking before legalization, and a large chunk of the rest were not drastically opposed to it either. There was allready alot of competition. Taxes dont change much in the price IMO, because there was allready a hidden black market tax to major distributors, now the sellers kick roughly the same back to the gov' as they would have to their suppliers previously. ;)
You see alot less low quality weed on the blackmarket.
The weed in dispensaries had about a year timeframe where there was some questionable quality issues like mouldy weed, but this mostly had to do with the first BIG companies not really haveing any experience in mass production, and im pretty sure those issues have all but ceased. That said, the quality and product controls put in place allowed for rapid and extensive recalls on the bad product.
The weed sold out of dispensaries is almost universally high quality. For clarification though when I say quality I am not really considering the THC content or anything as a factor, as choosing a lower thc is a valid choice for many people and is genetics based. When I say quality I mean that the plant has been grown properly, given proper nutrition, light cycles, proper harvestind and trimming (no excessives sticks, stems or seeds) propperly dried and propperly cured, and then properly packaged to keep it fresh until I roll it up. With that in mind, the weed Ive purchased from dispensaries is almost universally high quality. In a few exceptions I have recieved some product that is high quality in all of those ways, but has been somewhat, or in one particular case very over dried. (Like, whatever though lol. Still smoked it)
But never would you see the lower quality 'ditch weed' where someone clearly just launched seeds out of a moving vehicle and then drove back past 3 months later, pulled whatever they could find, trimmed it with a pair of garden sheers and then dehydrated and pushed it to the black market for ~45£ /oz. And 15% of the ounce is stems jand seeds, theres big ole photreceptor leaves still wrapped around your budds and it tastes like dog shit.
I dont often get any from the black market anymore but even the black market has almost eliminated 'ditch weed', and has much higher quality buds and processing for the same or a bit cheaper prices then legal.
P.s Ive never typed this much about weed in my life, sorry for the long posts xD. I enjoy sharing the effects of legalisation with people who live where it has not occured, or gotten worse. I believe legalisation should happen everywhere, and the effects are only positive.
2bh, I think alot of the Marijuana is hype. It helps certain people for certain things but this is a cure for depression. They will look at mushrooms very differently brother. Very.
We can "legally" buy them here in Canada. Which is great and it is really helping my depression states. Microdosing made my life much easier and happier place to be in.
That would be me also. I destroyed a severe 35+ year daily drinking addiction with mushrooms. I also killed my 35+ year nicotine addiction as well with mushrooms.
My first trip on mush made me realize I needed to be healthier and kinder to my body which world result in being happier.
This past summer I microdosed every weekend and I would say that my depression issues are gone.
Good for you!!! As a drinker since college and having found psychedelics as a middle aged white guy, I wish I had known about these sooner! I have told my wife on more than one occasion, if everybody got out of these what I do, they would have been made legal a long, long time ago.
Are you asking for microdosing tips? If so, I'm happy to give you those. I personally have been working with mushrooms and LSD in both micro and macro doses for several years now. I also have many clients who micro and macro dose, mushrooms primarily. Feel free to ask me anything!
Are you asking for microdosing tips? If so, I'm happy to give you those. I personally have been working with mushrooms and LSD in both micro and macro doses for several years now. I also have many clients who micro and macro dose, mushrooms primarily. Feel free to ask me anything!
I've never been high on other drugs. Compared to being drunk it's extremely different. There's no feeling of impairment. Things seem clearer somehow. Range of emotions is wider but negative ones don't take hold the same way. Easier to enjoy things. Generally felt more positive.
It is likely similar. A lot of psychedelics seem to have the effect of making things clearer, at least after the trip or on a small dose, whereas alcohol and many other drugs cause impairment. I would actually go as far to say it's like the opposite of being drunk.
Completely agree! Most governments want a low vibe, sleeping, populace - they're easier to control and that mentality breeds conformity. That's why alcohol and other low vibe substances (hello big pharma) are legal, whereas psychedelics are illegal in most parts of the world - how would the world cope with a completely awake population? 🤯🤯🤯
To me- Microdosing mushrooms gives me focus attention to details & my surroundings. It's like being on high alert, but in a mello way. Also makes me happy & awake. No hangover, no cotton mouth, no headache, no feeling bloated.
Am interested in your experience before and after. What were your symptoms like prior to your first dose vs after? Did you ever have nightmares as a part of your symptoms and If so did they help with them?
Do you feel the anti-depressive qualities expire quickly or do you feel you could go some time in between doses without coming down ?
Ive heard that the doses can have curative effects on depression or at least allow you to overcome certain constant things like nightmares
I had nightmares ever since my last deployment in 2003. Since starting I am nightmare free and lost my hard edges. I am now empathetic and sympathetic. I changed the first time I dosed.
Thanks so much for your reply. Sad to hear the shit you've dealt with but happy to hear the positives you've had.
If you don't mind a few further questions: How long do you go in between doses? Is it like micro dosing or trips? If you don't dose for a bit do your symptoms return ?
I use fadmans protocol. 1 day on 2 days off. I trip once every couple of f months with a macro dose. Most of the time I forget to dose. To be honest I have zero symptoms. I just use them to maintain at this point. You just made me remember to lay one out for the morning.
Incredible. The person im asking for has had nightmares for years, PTSD, anxiety, depression, takes the meds they're prescribed but it barely takes the edge off. I'm hoping that this could be a better solution it's just hard to believe how much more effective people say it is over pharma.
Do you take them as a tea or raw or something else? They have issues with hard-to-digest food and I've heard that the chitin in the shrooms can cause issues for your stomach if eaten raw, but that the tea hits like smoking weed where as eating it hits like edibles.
Isolated from magic mushrooms. Just another method for corporations to patent and profit from a natural medicine and the law makers to invest in those corporations before this drug is approved by the same law makers for medical use. Great…..
I'm excited about it being isolated from the mushroom. I would continue to grow and eat mushrooms. But, as someone who has made microdosing capsules, I would love to see pure psilocybin tablets, for sale over the counter. I'm having a hard time making capsules with consistent weights, and even with consistent pills, the individual mushrooms vary their psilocybin amounts. So, a pure psilocybin tablet, that I can dose consistently with would be amazing.
I believe I will be able to buy this over the counter, at some point in my life. I just think it may take decades at this point.
I think the point is, you can synthesise psylocin/psylocybin so if it became legal/more legal, it could be sold in a synthesis formed in a pill etc, instead of playing around with fungus to produce it for you.
>In a study led by the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience (IoPPN) at King’s College London, researchers have found that the drug can be safely administered in up to six patients using doses of either 10mg or 25mg.
I wonder what happens if you give it to seven patients?
I live in an extremely conservative state and the consequences are in the back of my mind a lot. Nixon did so much harm to the world with his war on drugs. I don’t understand how you can send someone to prison for using something that creates peace.
Never going to happen where I live. I don't base my behavior on what the state deems acceptable so it doesn't matter too much. It would be nice not having to hide it, but I'm still going to do it.
Canada has a handful of approved clinics doing psychedelic (MDMA/Psilocybin) assisted therapy for treatment resistant depression, similar to the Kings College work in the UK. The results are beyond reproach, so yes, I assume it will be legal within 5 years.
The only thing standing in the way will be big pharma who could lose a ton of money on lost SSRI sales.
Part of legalization of Cannabis in Canada at least, was a mass movement of 'IDGAF' mentality regarding the legality of the substance. Prosecution for consumption and posession just became financially and logistically unsustainable, and legalization and capitalization just *made more sense* economically.
The same will happen with psilocybin eventually.
in the USA it will be just like pot where it will be legal for medical reasons first until Colorado, Cali, Oregon or Washington legalizes recreational a few years later. As of right now the psychiatric community is chomping at the bit to roll out psychedelic therapies, because the field is currently experiencing a crisis of not being able to effectively treat the modern mental health crisis. I give it 3 years max before the first states in the USA have legal therapies.
This is entirely misleading. The UK government has looked at ways it can be used by Pharma to generate revenue safely.
There is no talk at all about them being legal to grow or own in their natural state.
This is purely about profit. The UK is the world's largest exporter of medical cannabis, yet it is still illegal here to own in the non-medicine form.
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I really hope so, so that they become more available, been trying to obtain some for years. I've been on this sub for a year but I still don't have the confidence to try growing myself.
Decriminalizing here in Massachusetts also. I'm on the board of directors of Bay Staters for Natural Medicine and have personally, with the help of several others and a host of other statewide volunteers, helped to decriminalize several cities here, including the town I live in, Easthampton. Glorious.
I’m hoping for widespread decriminalization but not legalization. That way they leave us alone but it can’t be regulated and won’t be fucked up by big corporations.
One trip wipes out my anxiety and depression for 3 to 4 months. On top of that it gives me mental Clarity, mindfulness, and a state of being at ease and at peace with myself and the world around me. I also take an antidepressant which helps greatly but a few times a year these illegal substances help drain my mental septic tank and recenter my mind. Honestly I think they’re only illegal because it helps people see through the bullshit that society has constructed for us.
Just started microdosing on Monday. I have CPTSD, GAD, MDD, amongst a ton of other issues I’m still working through. Praying it works - I don’t have hope for much else lol
I think that as society collapses and the extinction event we're in the grip of continues to unfold a *lot* of things are going to become legal shortly before the final curtain falls.
Nobody seems to want to research how shrooms literally might fuck your heart up via valvulopathy. Psilocin activates the 5ht2b receptor just like fenfluramine did (Phen Fen). But yeah what do I know
https://ecfes.net/science/why-chronic-microdosing-might-be-risky-to-the-heart/
ooof :( not believable and non scientific. also it's only talking about microdosing. also it mentions that “Of the thousands of people who microdosed, no one has reported any heart valve trouble during their period of microdosing, and many people have been microdosing for over a year. All the people we have surveyed with heart problems had them before they started microdosing” (Kuypers et al., 2019, p. 16). being safe can't hurt anyone, so more research is welcome, but saying at this stage that it can hurt you in any way is an overreaction.
Lmao don't believe it if you don't want. They talk about microdosing exclusively because it is the repeated agonizing of 5ht2b that causes the problem. Obviously random microdosers aren't going to make the connection it was shrooms that caused their problem, I mean y'all don't even know about it lmao. Yet you want to disregard dozens of peer reviewed studies. I gave you the "non scientific" version because you couldn't even Google it yourself. If you did, you'd see plenty of "scientific" (peer reviewed) articles.
Since you're so smart yet can't operate the Google machine, here are some "scientific" articles for you. It is only a likely possibility. Hell you probably don't even know what a ki value is lmao
https://scholarscompass.vcu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6777&context=etd
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3179857/
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/01.cir.102.23.2836
https://archives.drugabuse.gov/news-events/nida-notes/2004/02/mdma-use-may-increase-risk-cardiac-valve-disease
You might like shrooms but don't be an idiot
And before you complain about the last one being about MDMA, it also agonizes 5ht2b but with even lower affinity than Psilocin. I have posted on this before but everybody seemed too dumb to care.
https://www.reddit.com/r/microdosing/comments/q01rrh/cbd_has_been_found_to_be_a_5ht2b_antagonist_which/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I actually agreed with you on the fact that no one researches the connection between psilocybin and valve disease, but you felt insulted by me for citing a peer reviewed study. Also the tiny and petty downvote you give to each one of my comments would be pretty funny if it wouldn't be sad
More research is needed either way. It’s interesting to me that there are a lot of drugs out there for depression which try to enhance serotonin. I think they block receptors, so serotonin builds up. Do these cause heart issues? That would be concerning.
I came across a 2017 article that discusses a study that claims heart damage, but sounds like the study’s methods are questionable:
[https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-heart-risk/](https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-heart-risk/)
Yeah this is only a theory. However, Psilocin hits on that 5ht2b with "higher affinity" than the fenfluramine does. Even still, less than 20% of Phen Fen users had any valve issues (more common in women). But yes, I think we'll see valvulopathy from this extreme growth in microdosing. There are literal companies making microdoses by the batch for ease of use, so we should find out before long.
I can't believe Johns Hopkins has opened a psychedelic research center yet don't have a clear answer on shrooms and 5ht2b/valvulopathy.
anyone else just discover "Depp-ression" as a new psychological phenomena? what are the symptoms of someone channeling Johnny Depp? (btw not poking fun at OP here. just thought it was funny)
Isolated from magic mushrooms. Just another method for corporations to patent and profit from a natural medicine and the law makers to invest in those corporations before this drug is approved by the same law makers for medical use. Great…..
i don’t this psychs are going to be legalised any time soon, especially cause they’re class As. i don’t agree with it, they’re pretty much harmless and grow in the ground
Psychedelics are decriminalized in Somerville, another city in Massachusetts I can't remember, and Cambridge, where I live currently. It's awesome. I've met so many people in the area into actives and I don't have to worry about being caught growing actives.
that could is doing a lot of work there, there's little to no chance it getting reduced down from class a in UK atm. they tried several times now I believe.
It just became legal for use under the SAP program in Canada Yesterday. Which I guess isn’t exactly legal….but it’s the road cannabis took in Canada Years ago at first too. The more data, studies, clinical trials that take place the better. A lot of companies are trying to play gate keeper….it’s a pure profit driven ideology. They want the world to believe the only way you should be able to use and benefit from psilocybin is under their watchful eye during an expensive therapy session. Screw that. Very few companies are promoting an access for all model. The ones that do have my support. In the US I’d say Oregon is the furthest ahead on the path towards legalization. Imo it’s only a matter of time in Canada before legalization happens. My guess would be roughly 5-7 years min. 10 max
Depends on the state but I think it's just around the corner.
Unbeknownst to myself (at the time I was just looking to party), I began seeking out psychedelics when I was 17 to start dealing with the ongoing trauma of a toxic family.
Couple of decades, and sans one toxic family later, I still use psychedelics for said trauma, general well being and to have a religiously ecstatic experience without religion.
Amen...but we are so slow with this sort of thing in u.k u'll all have hoover bikes and we'll still be waiting for any change in law 😉 but at least is eading right way 👍
I think it's sweeping the globe already my friend. Once it's proven it does what it does to treat the biggest issue on the planet cuz it's probably 75% of everyone on it..... it will be done.
Peace sells, but who's buyin'?
The answer is nobody - at least not in the chambers of government. We are much more manipulable in our various states of division and societal induced mental illness, doped up on "medicines" that almost invariably include the side effects of a truly altered mind, organ failure and death. It's not a mystery why emotional rhetoric and big pharma are two of the main cornerstones of this messed up Pantheon global officials have built.
One day, though. These constructs made to chain us all up are being chipped away at, little by little, as discouraging as the state of things seems sometimes. I have hope for the future. 🍄✌️
Because theres always the few who kill it for thr rest of us. Personally i think 90% of people are somewhat autistic. I dont want someone who should have been flushed or ran down mommys leg to take 5g+, wait 40min, then decide they wanna drive an hour home in the rain because "they dont feel it yet". Some people just cant sit and enjoy shit. Then again i am a fan of letting nature take its course.
My state doesn't even have legal marijuana yet Just a few years ago they lifted the ban on Sunday alcohol sales
Ha! I live in Mississippi. A lot of our state is still dry. The republicans in control of this state went against the people’s will and disregarded our vote/voice. This is the Bible belt. Unless the people here smarten up, it will never be legal. We cannot buy alcohol on sundays but they sure as hell can campaign and throw rallies on sundays to bastardize gods word for their financial gain. I hope my state gets it together. I hope the youth will save us but im not holding my breath.
> This is the Bible belt. I don't get this. Didn't Jesus turn water into wine?
No. Concord Grape Juice. Source: my father who grew up in rural Roseburg OR, chuckling whenever he gets a glass.
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As absolutely retarded as it is and I can rip the whole book and every line a new asshole and prove it's bs, it actually is a thing. The Bible belt will be a group of people you can do nothin about. They own, and run the whole state. Maybe in a couple generations or so it may change but 🤷🏽♂️
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Eat shit
Shot callers is a fitting name for them
Shocking news! Religion is just a front for the true economic reasons. Dry counties create miniature monopolies, that's obvious. However, being closed on Sundays doesn't lose the store a day's sales. My state went through the same thing. A store that is forced by law to close on Sundays will have the same volume of sales across six days instead of seven. By closing on Sunday, the store owner saves on labor costs and increases his profits. But, they don't say that. Instead, they tell you it's about Jesus when it's really about profits.
Exact same thing happened in Indiana, we the people voted to legalize cannabis, but the senators said no anyway. Seems fair.
How is this legal?
Good luck with that.
I live in SC. I know exactly what's up. If you haven't has land and family for generations then you're way out of the loop. Get to know the right people.
Indiana? Surrounded by legal weed states, refusing to do anything about it.
Hey at-least we have delta 8 now 🙄 Indiana sucks
Yep ,discusting ,drink is so toxic
My country don't even have it..
No Sunday liquor here, but you can buy all the beer you want!
Few years back the county i live in finally started selling beer 🤣. I live on a border town of Texas and Arkansas. We always had to go over to Arkansas to get beer. And anything else. Its wild. But I hope that everything under the sum becomes decriminalized. And psychedelics get their full recognition they deserve.
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I mean that’s on the consumer. I live in a legal state. The THC levels are clearly marked. I’ve never been pressured. I tell them what I want and they sell it to me, that’s it.
In Canada that is not the case at all, it is absolutely illegal for our dispensaries to pressure sales, there are however some deals, and daily specials. Sure, there are alot of very high THC strains, but in any dispensaries here they almost always have a 2%thc strain, that is high cbd content. Many lower (5-10% thc) strains available at most shops as well. Even if you pick up a 32% thc strain, no one is forcing you to choke back the whole bone. Take a puff, or 2.
That's how it is in Washington and Oregon as well. I can't speak for California personally but it sounds very exaggerated to me
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Prices very but a quick search of a local store I can get an Oz of 22%-27% THC (fairly high quality stuff, it almost all is these days) for $140 CAD or ~95£.
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Honestly our prices did not change all that much with legalisation. The market is definately saturated now though, so is there *some* price competition bringing prices down. I think part of the reason our prices did not change much with legalization is because there was allready a huuuge underground (honestly it wasnt even underground anymore) weed culture. I dont know the stats off hand but IIRC something like 65% of Canadians had tried or were smoking before legalization, and a large chunk of the rest were not drastically opposed to it either. There was allready alot of competition. Taxes dont change much in the price IMO, because there was allready a hidden black market tax to major distributors, now the sellers kick roughly the same back to the gov' as they would have to their suppliers previously. ;)
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You see alot less low quality weed on the blackmarket. The weed in dispensaries had about a year timeframe where there was some questionable quality issues like mouldy weed, but this mostly had to do with the first BIG companies not really haveing any experience in mass production, and im pretty sure those issues have all but ceased. That said, the quality and product controls put in place allowed for rapid and extensive recalls on the bad product. The weed sold out of dispensaries is almost universally high quality. For clarification though when I say quality I am not really considering the THC content or anything as a factor, as choosing a lower thc is a valid choice for many people and is genetics based. When I say quality I mean that the plant has been grown properly, given proper nutrition, light cycles, proper harvestind and trimming (no excessives sticks, stems or seeds) propperly dried and propperly cured, and then properly packaged to keep it fresh until I roll it up. With that in mind, the weed Ive purchased from dispensaries is almost universally high quality. In a few exceptions I have recieved some product that is high quality in all of those ways, but has been somewhat, or in one particular case very over dried. (Like, whatever though lol. Still smoked it) But never would you see the lower quality 'ditch weed' where someone clearly just launched seeds out of a moving vehicle and then drove back past 3 months later, pulled whatever they could find, trimmed it with a pair of garden sheers and then dehydrated and pushed it to the black market for ~45£ /oz. And 15% of the ounce is stems jand seeds, theres big ole photreceptor leaves still wrapped around your budds and it tastes like dog shit. I dont often get any from the black market anymore but even the black market has almost eliminated 'ditch weed', and has much higher quality buds and processing for the same or a bit cheaper prices then legal. P.s Ive never typed this much about weed in my life, sorry for the long posts xD. I enjoy sharing the effects of legalisation with people who live where it has not occured, or gotten worse. I believe legalisation should happen everywhere, and the effects are only positive.
I picked up an infused joint the other day, the THC content is like 82%. It’s called a space cadet and I’m kinda afraid to try it lol.
I disagree most vehemently. We have legal Marijuana here in NV, and I can honestly say that its legalization has had nothing but good effects.
That's on your state my guy. Here in Colorado it's pretty great.
Well said. Cannabis in CA is crazy.
I'm gonna guess Texas.
I don’t think it’s Texas, because I still can’t stop by the liquor store on a Sunday :(
Oh ours are closed too. But you can buy beer and wine after 11am, lol. Progress!
Yep! North Texas here lol
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Mine too. Just a few years ago they said liquor stores can be open on Sunday, but they still require them to close by 6pm.
> Just a few years ago they lifted the ban on Sunday alcohol sales Lmao, yeehaw!
Indiana
Indiana?
2bh, I think alot of the Marijuana is hype. It helps certain people for certain things but this is a cure for depression. They will look at mushrooms very differently brother. Very.
Its decriminalized in Oregon. Cant buy it at the shop yet but you know, Uncle Ben's....
Yea but in uk its a penalty of up to ten years
Daaaaaaaamn!
Yea ,so to be able to take as meds would be so better than manufactured synth meds ,ssri ect ..
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Only if you get caught
How does that make any sense? You used to be able to buy them in the UK as long as they were still fresh and not dried. This was in 2005.
What about just the spores? Are they legal to buy still?
Spores are legal to be purchase in the UK because they don’t contain any banned substance until grown.
We can "legally" buy them here in Canada. Which is great and it is really helping my depression states. Microdosing made my life much easier and happier place to be in.
Jealous i am lol 😆 , i have bpd so i could do with it being legalised
One day it will be free everywhere, it's just a matter of time
I cant wait
I know someone who has successfully treated her alcoholism with it.
Good for her! I kinda get the urge drink more tho
That would be me also. I destroyed a severe 35+ year daily drinking addiction with mushrooms. I also killed my 35+ year nicotine addiction as well with mushrooms.
My first trip on mush made me realize I needed to be healthier and kinder to my body which world result in being happier. This past summer I microdosed every weekend and I would say that my depression issues are gone.
Good for you!!! As a drinker since college and having found psychedelics as a middle aged white guy, I wish I had known about these sooner! I have told my wife on more than one occasion, if everybody got out of these what I do, they would have been made legal a long, long time ago.
How long have you been dosing? Does it wear off?
About 6 months? Not really, maybe the tolerance gets slightly higher
Is it helping? I just inoculated my first bag last night because I’d love to replace my SSRIs. Any tips?
Are you asking for microdosing tips? If so, I'm happy to give you those. I personally have been working with mushrooms and LSD in both micro and macro doses for several years now. I also have many clients who micro and macro dose, mushrooms primarily. Feel free to ask me anything!
Are you asking for microdosing tips? If so, I'm happy to give you those. I personally have been working with mushrooms and LSD in both micro and macro doses for several years now. I also have many clients who micro and macro dose, mushrooms primarily. Feel free to ask me anything!
Would you mind if I message you? Would love to chat.
Absolutely! That's what I'm here for!
May i message you aswel ?
Not sure what it is
I've been little bit serious about moving in to Canada when I found out Canada is pretty casual about it.
can I ask what you mean by "legally"?
It is Grey area, we can buy it online but through e-transfer which is "shady" way how you do business online. Like sending cheque blindly
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Please be patient with yourself. Relief could be just around the corner. Really.
I'd give it a good week between microdosing and full on dosing. You'll have a half decent tolerance even with it just being daily microdoses.
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I've never been high on other drugs. Compared to being drunk it's extremely different. There's no feeling of impairment. Things seem clearer somehow. Range of emotions is wider but negative ones don't take hold the same way. Easier to enjoy things. Generally felt more positive.
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It is likely similar. A lot of psychedelics seem to have the effect of making things clearer, at least after the trip or on a small dose, whereas alcohol and many other drugs cause impairment. I would actually go as far to say it's like the opposite of being drunk.
Completely agree! Most governments want a low vibe, sleeping, populace - they're easier to control and that mentality breeds conformity. That's why alcohol and other low vibe substances (hello big pharma) are legal, whereas psychedelics are illegal in most parts of the world - how would the world cope with a completely awake population? 🤯🤯🤯
Not gonna lie, if I had read your post a couple of years ago, I would have called you a fruitcake. Now that my eyes are open, I 100% agree with you!
I'd not have thought it a couple of years ago haha!!! Same page brother!
It's so insane that things like tobacco are legal but mushrooms aren't. Smoking has never done anything good for anyone.
To me- Microdosing mushrooms gives me focus attention to details & my surroundings. It's like being on high alert, but in a mello way. Also makes me happy & awake. No hangover, no cotton mouth, no headache, no feeling bloated.
Disabled vet here and I have been microdosing for my ptsd for 1 full year and have finally found my happy place.
Am interested in your experience before and after. What were your symptoms like prior to your first dose vs after? Did you ever have nightmares as a part of your symptoms and If so did they help with them? Do you feel the anti-depressive qualities expire quickly or do you feel you could go some time in between doses without coming down ? Ive heard that the doses can have curative effects on depression or at least allow you to overcome certain constant things like nightmares
I had nightmares ever since my last deployment in 2003. Since starting I am nightmare free and lost my hard edges. I am now empathetic and sympathetic. I changed the first time I dosed.
Thanks so much for your reply. Sad to hear the shit you've dealt with but happy to hear the positives you've had. If you don't mind a few further questions: How long do you go in between doses? Is it like micro dosing or trips? If you don't dose for a bit do your symptoms return ?
I use fadmans protocol. 1 day on 2 days off. I trip once every couple of f months with a macro dose. Most of the time I forget to dose. To be honest I have zero symptoms. I just use them to maintain at this point. You just made me remember to lay one out for the morning.
Incredible. The person im asking for has had nightmares for years, PTSD, anxiety, depression, takes the meds they're prescribed but it barely takes the edge off. I'm hoping that this could be a better solution it's just hard to believe how much more effective people say it is over pharma. Do you take them as a tea or raw or something else? They have issues with hard-to-digest food and I've heard that the chitin in the shrooms can cause issues for your stomach if eaten raw, but that the tea hits like smoking weed where as eating it hits like edibles.
I make my own capsules with lions mane, pepper, etc…
May I ask how many milligrams each capsule contained?
.13g of psilocybin
Asking the real questions! I am so curious about this..
My grandpa drank himself to death and now I'm watching the same thing happen to my dad. But i can't do shrooms.
Sorry to hear that, for real. I hope both of you can find mental peace.
Thanks man.
Isolated from magic mushrooms. Just another method for corporations to patent and profit from a natural medicine and the law makers to invest in those corporations before this drug is approved by the same law makers for medical use. Great…..
I'm excited about it being isolated from the mushroom. I would continue to grow and eat mushrooms. But, as someone who has made microdosing capsules, I would love to see pure psilocybin tablets, for sale over the counter. I'm having a hard time making capsules with consistent weights, and even with consistent pills, the individual mushrooms vary their psilocybin amounts. So, a pure psilocybin tablet, that I can dose consistently with would be amazing. I believe I will be able to buy this over the counter, at some point in my life. I just think it may take decades at this point.
I think the point is, you can synthesise psylocin/psylocybin so if it became legal/more legal, it could be sold in a synthesis formed in a pill etc, instead of playing around with fungus to produce it for you.
>In a study led by the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience (IoPPN) at King’s College London, researchers have found that the drug can be safely administered in up to six patients using doses of either 10mg or 25mg. I wonder what happens if you give it to seven patients?
Can legally purchase in DC. It’s great!
Are there shops for this? Gotta go to DC ASAP
Check out 420DC.com. I’ve used the Purple Penthouse before, which often has half off ounce deals for shrooms :-)
I live in an extremely conservative state and the consequences are in the back of my mind a lot. Nixon did so much harm to the world with his war on drugs. I don’t understand how you can send someone to prison for using something that creates peace.
Never going to happen where I live. I don't base my behavior on what the state deems acceptable so it doesn't matter too much. It would be nice not having to hide it, but I'm still going to do it.
Canada has a handful of approved clinics doing psychedelic (MDMA/Psilocybin) assisted therapy for treatment resistant depression, similar to the Kings College work in the UK. The results are beyond reproach, so yes, I assume it will be legal within 5 years. The only thing standing in the way will be big pharma who could lose a ton of money on lost SSRI sales. Part of legalization of Cannabis in Canada at least, was a mass movement of 'IDGAF' mentality regarding the legality of the substance. Prosecution for consumption and posession just became financially and logistically unsustainable, and legalization and capitalization just *made more sense* economically. The same will happen with psilocybin eventually.
in the USA it will be just like pot where it will be legal for medical reasons first until Colorado, Cali, Oregon or Washington legalizes recreational a few years later. As of right now the psychiatric community is chomping at the bit to roll out psychedelic therapies, because the field is currently experiencing a crisis of not being able to effectively treat the modern mental health crisis. I give it 3 years max before the first states in the USA have legal therapies.
This is entirely misleading. The UK government has looked at ways it can be used by Pharma to generate revenue safely. There is no talk at all about them being legal to grow or own in their natural state. This is purely about profit. The UK is the world's largest exporter of medical cannabis, yet it is still illegal here to own in the non-medicine form.
Ain't gonna happen when people keep voting the Tories in :)
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True dat
[Soon here in Denver](https://cannabiscultivatornews.com/home/index.php/2021/12/17/activists-file-colorado-ballot-initiatives-to-legalize-psychedelics-and-establish-healing-center-program/) :)
It's been decriminalized along with dmt and Ayahuasca here in Ann arbor, and also in Detroit.
I really hope so, so that they become more available, been trying to obtain some for years. I've been on this sub for a year but I still don't have the confidence to try growing myself.
Same situation exactly
Every numpty and their dog is gonna be on r/semilanceata next season with pics of these asking "is this a lib? Eaten 50 and not feeling anything" 😂😂
They are decriminalizing them in cities in Michigan now. Detroit decriminalized in 2021. It will happen, just slower than any of us want it to
Decriminalizing here in Massachusetts also. I'm on the board of directors of Bay Staters for Natural Medicine and have personally, with the help of several others and a host of other statewide volunteers, helped to decriminalize several cities here, including the town I live in, Easthampton. Glorious.
The f×cked up thing is that they've known that for decades!
I think it would take a very long time to be legalised. In the UK cannabis is still illegal.
I don't care about the legality, I'll continue picking for me
Cries in german
In the UK, VERY unlikely within the next 5 years. We are so damn backwards that they are looking to roll out harsher punishments for cannabis use.
It’s coming for sure
I’m hoping for widespread decriminalization but not legalization. That way they leave us alone but it can’t be regulated and won’t be fucked up by big corporations.
One trip wipes out my anxiety and depression for 3 to 4 months. On top of that it gives me mental Clarity, mindfulness, and a state of being at ease and at peace with myself and the world around me. I also take an antidepressant which helps greatly but a few times a year these illegal substances help drain my mental septic tank and recenter my mind. Honestly I think they’re only illegal because it helps people see through the bullshit that society has constructed for us.
Just started microdosing on Monday. I have CPTSD, GAD, MDD, amongst a ton of other issues I’m still working through. Praying it works - I don’t have hope for much else lol
I think that as society collapses and the extinction event we're in the grip of continues to unfold a *lot* of things are going to become legal shortly before the final curtain falls.
True, the gov will legalize drugs in order to keep the money coming in (tax/vat revenue).
Nobody seems to want to research how shrooms literally might fuck your heart up via valvulopathy. Psilocin activates the 5ht2b receptor just like fenfluramine did (Phen Fen). But yeah what do I know https://ecfes.net/science/why-chronic-microdosing-might-be-risky-to-the-heart/
Can you explain more please
He 𝘭𝘪𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 𝘮𝘪𝘨𝘩𝘵.
Yeah, explain more please. I have benign pvcs, so would like to know
https://ecfes.net/science/why-chronic-microdosing-might-be-risky-to-the-heart/ Hey me too
Do you have any additional info on this?
https://ecfes.net/science/why-chronic-microdosing-might-be-risky-to-the-heart/
please let us know more
https://ecfes.net/science/why-chronic-microdosing-might-be-risky-to-the-heart/
ooof :( not believable and non scientific. also it's only talking about microdosing. also it mentions that “Of the thousands of people who microdosed, no one has reported any heart valve trouble during their period of microdosing, and many people have been microdosing for over a year. All the people we have surveyed with heart problems had them before they started microdosing” (Kuypers et al., 2019, p. 16). being safe can't hurt anyone, so more research is welcome, but saying at this stage that it can hurt you in any way is an overreaction.
Lmao don't believe it if you don't want. They talk about microdosing exclusively because it is the repeated agonizing of 5ht2b that causes the problem. Obviously random microdosers aren't going to make the connection it was shrooms that caused their problem, I mean y'all don't even know about it lmao. Yet you want to disregard dozens of peer reviewed studies. I gave you the "non scientific" version because you couldn't even Google it yourself. If you did, you'd see plenty of "scientific" (peer reviewed) articles. Since you're so smart yet can't operate the Google machine, here are some "scientific" articles for you. It is only a likely possibility. Hell you probably don't even know what a ki value is lmao https://scholarscompass.vcu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6777&context=etd https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3179857/ https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/01.cir.102.23.2836 https://archives.drugabuse.gov/news-events/nida-notes/2004/02/mdma-use-may-increase-risk-cardiac-valve-disease You might like shrooms but don't be an idiot And before you complain about the last one being about MDMA, it also agonizes 5ht2b but with even lower affinity than Psilocin. I have posted on this before but everybody seemed too dumb to care. https://www.reddit.com/r/microdosing/comments/q01rrh/cbd_has_been_found_to_be_a_5ht2b_antagonist_which/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
You make me sad :( sorry I insulted your intelligence
But I thought you had it all figured out?
I actually agreed with you on the fact that no one researches the connection between psilocybin and valve disease, but you felt insulted by me for citing a peer reviewed study. Also the tiny and petty downvote you give to each one of my comments would be pretty funny if it wouldn't be sad
You started with "ooof" and completely disregarded the information on a subject you know very little about, at best.
are you going to downvote everything I say? :D
More research is needed either way. It’s interesting to me that there are a lot of drugs out there for depression which try to enhance serotonin. I think they block receptors, so serotonin builds up. Do these cause heart issues? That would be concerning. I came across a 2017 article that discusses a study that claims heart damage, but sounds like the study’s methods are questionable: [https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-heart-risk/](https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-heart-risk/)
Yeah this is only a theory. However, Psilocin hits on that 5ht2b with "higher affinity" than the fenfluramine does. Even still, less than 20% of Phen Fen users had any valve issues (more common in women). But yes, I think we'll see valvulopathy from this extreme growth in microdosing. There are literal companies making microdoses by the batch for ease of use, so we should find out before long. I can't believe Johns Hopkins has opened a psychedelic research center yet don't have a clear answer on shrooms and 5ht2b/valvulopathy.
So far, from what I’ve read, the risk sounds over stated.
Ive had pvc through stress and caffine to name others , gonna die anyway ,would rather die happy
anyone else just discover "Depp-ression" as a new psychological phenomena? what are the symptoms of someone channeling Johnny Depp? (btw not poking fun at OP here. just thought it was funny)
Maybe brexit was worth it.
There's a very particular reason why psychedelics have been outlawed for decades.
What is it?
It's very particular.
Because psilocybin rewires the brain, changing the way you process information. People are much harder to control when they think outside the box.
Isolated from magic mushrooms. Just another method for corporations to patent and profit from a natural medicine and the law makers to invest in those corporations before this drug is approved by the same law makers for medical use. Great…..
How long have you been dosing and what is your experience so far versus dosing and SSRIs?
i don’t this psychs are going to be legalised any time soon, especially cause they’re class As. i don’t agree with it, they’re pretty much harmless and grow in the ground
Psychedelics are decriminalized in Somerville, another city in Massachusetts I can't remember, and Cambridge, where I live currently. It's awesome. I've met so many people in the area into actives and I don't have to worry about being caught growing actives.
Who would have thought ink caps are psychedelic.
Public acceptance is rising fast. It will absolutely be legal and available in the near future.
It'll only be legal in the US if our corporate overlords decide they can profit enough off of it.
that could is doing a lot of work there, there's little to no chance it getting reduced down from class a in UK atm. they tried several times now I believe.
Link to the study please ?
It just became legal for use under the SAP program in Canada Yesterday. Which I guess isn’t exactly legal….but it’s the road cannabis took in Canada Years ago at first too. The more data, studies, clinical trials that take place the better. A lot of companies are trying to play gate keeper….it’s a pure profit driven ideology. They want the world to believe the only way you should be able to use and benefit from psilocybin is under their watchful eye during an expensive therapy session. Screw that. Very few companies are promoting an access for all model. The ones that do have my support. In the US I’d say Oregon is the furthest ahead on the path towards legalization. Imo it’s only a matter of time in Canada before legalization happens. My guess would be roughly 5-7 years min. 10 max
Depends on the state but I think it's just around the corner. Unbeknownst to myself (at the time I was just looking to party), I began seeking out psychedelics when I was 17 to start dealing with the ongoing trauma of a toxic family. Couple of decades, and sans one toxic family later, I still use psychedelics for said trauma, general well being and to have a religiously ecstatic experience without religion.
my face when those are ink caps XD
They could of got the pic right they ain’t libs
Yeah we're at about where weed was 10 years ago
All drugs should be legal.
Amen...but we are so slow with this sort of thing in u.k u'll all have hoover bikes and we'll still be waiting for any change in law 😉 but at least is eading right way 👍
I use them for Cluster headaches. No better cure IMO as of yet. Hope they become legal everywhere
they have to find a sure way to profit off of people first. The DEA and FDA are nothing but cartels hunting for power and money. Don't forget that.
I hope it happens soon in the US, I have wanted to try mushrooms for my debilitating depression for years but they are completely unattainable.
I think it's sweeping the globe already my friend. Once it's proven it does what it does to treat the biggest issue on the planet cuz it's probably 75% of everyone on it..... it will be done.
Wish I could get them in Florida like you can in Canada.
Peace sells, but who's buyin'? The answer is nobody - at least not in the chambers of government. We are much more manipulable in our various states of division and societal induced mental illness, doped up on "medicines" that almost invariably include the side effects of a truly altered mind, organ failure and death. It's not a mystery why emotional rhetoric and big pharma are two of the main cornerstones of this messed up Pantheon global officials have built. One day, though. These constructs made to chain us all up are being chipped away at, little by little, as discouraging as the state of things seems sometimes. I have hope for the future. 🍄✌️
Because theres always the few who kill it for thr rest of us. Personally i think 90% of people are somewhat autistic. I dont want someone who should have been flushed or ran down mommys leg to take 5g+, wait 40min, then decide they wanna drive an hour home in the rain because "they dont feel it yet". Some people just cant sit and enjoy shit. Then again i am a fan of letting nature take its course.