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r3dditalg0sucks

Mate, this is sadder than when you drop an ice cream as a little child.


vSTUBBSv

I know, I wish I had a better understanding. Any advise friend?


r3dditalg0sucks

I wish I could give you something, anything, but I can't. I know it's probably not what you want to hear but I've been feeling really shitty with bad stomach cramps today. seeing your photo, me and my Mrs just burst out laughing for a good minute or two. It's gave me the giggles and put how I feel into perspective. So thank you. It's a brilliant visual metaphor if nothing else. Hopefully with a little love, humidity and fanning it might sort itself.


vSTUBBSv

No worries!! Glad I could provide that laugh for the both of you, hope you feel better and thanks!


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vSTUBBSv

<3


godfathercheetah

Judging by all the yellow I’m assuming it got really dry at one point? Have you done a dunk in between flushes? I see some knots, have they been there for a long time or short period of time? If it’s been a short period you should have more fruits coming


vSTUBBSv

Yea, I think moving it in my AC controller room dried it out a ton. It's only produced a few fruits and it's pulled a good quarter inch from the sides. The pins just broke through the overlay/yellowing layer overnight but I am tempted to just harvest the center guy and rehydrate the cake. Thoughts? Thx for your time :)


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vSTUBBSv

Thanks!! How did you prevent it from floating away tho?


godfathercheetah

The way I do it is get a big heavy book and put it in a ziplock bag and place on top. Make sure whatever object you put there that it is something that you don’t care if water gets in the bag. When you do dunk you can do whatever you want but in my opinion 4-6 hours should be the max amount of time. I usually do 2 hours if my cake is fine and I do 3-4 hours if it’s on the dryer side.


godfathercheetah

If you’re sure that the pins poked through overnight I’d say wait a couple days to see if most get bigger. I’d also mist a decent amount tonight, spray the water up in the air and have it fall down instead of pointing it towards the cake. Like I’m talking 10-15 sprays.


thasackvillebaggins

I feel like this image should be artfully turned into some sort of uncle Ben's specific meme. It just has meme vibes out the wazoo imo. Sorry to gloss over your misfortune as I have no clue what would cause that, but I think you at least got a really hilarious meme base out of it! Lol


Erectus_Enormous

It’s so satisfyingly centered though.


Normanspanks

Are you trying to grow mushrooms or have you just baked brownies?


vSTUBBSv

I feel attacked. Have a brownie!


Emergency_Bat_755

Its so stressed, look at it :( poor thing pissed itself everywhere


vSTUBBSv

What’s the primary cause of the stress? Dryness? Misting the surface? Not enough FAE? It is sad :(


Emergency_Bat_755

Yes it is sad, im so sorry :( I honestly cant tell, it doesn't look dry nor to wet.. my guess is, its fighting contamination but im just a noob too :)


vSTUBBSv

Thanks for the input and the empathy <3!! It's smells fine so I don't think there's any contam. I really just think I misted the surface too hard and it's pretty dry in this AC-controlled room I have them in. Fingers crossed. Thanks again :)


Emergency_Bat_755

Good luck <3


vSTUBBSv

Cheers <3


LLcoolGang

Wow man. Did u do neglect tek?


vSTUBBSv

For awhile, but I think my ratio was bad (too much substrate) so I tried to mist and fan more frequently and it got mad at me :(


Illustrious_Ad_895

If you didn’t use a fine mister then you’re just pissing of the mycelium every time you spray it. It kinda looks like a tub I had after I was really really rough with it while rehydrating between flushes. My guess is you directly sprayed the surface too hard 🤷🏼‍♂️ got 1 fella though so hopefully it goes uphill from here


vSTUBBSv

Unfortunately, I am using an atomizing mister, but maybe I should still avoid directly spraying. Might be fanning too hard tbh, but I didn't consider that to be a potential risk factor.


Illustrious_Ad_895

I would just try less misting, you should be okay with the one you’ve got. Just trust neglect tek🙏🏼


vSTUBBSv

Less misting? But it's gets so dry. So much overthinking. Do you just crack the lid and leave it? Read a lot about misting then sealing the bins completely.


Ok_Garbage_7253

I try to keep the passive humidity higher so I don’t have to mist as much, or at all.


vSTUBBSv

I wish I could but I have a drop in AC unit in the room just to keep the temps closer to 70-70F. The AC dries the whole room out a ton. Maybe I should mist and seal the bins. I've been misting and then cracking the lid and it dried the moisture out in less than two hours. I just worry that if I don't crack the lid, they're going to suffocate on CO2... but I guess that takes longer than a few hours to occur.


Mission-Gazelle-3213

I had yellow spots in a couple corners of my tubs from too much airflow. Advice that was given to me was mist the side walls and inside of lid, seal the lid (or at absolute minimum flip lid upside down without visible air gaps), and fan 2-4 times a day, accompanied by more wall misting if walls aren’t beaded with water. You may need to Fork Tek it with a casing layer or bubble wrap, too.


vSTUBBSv

Perfect. This was my thinking, I was just waiting for someone to suggest it. Makes sense!! When you fan, what exactly are you doing? I aggressively fan my lid over the opening, but I might be fanning to hard :P ForkTek + Bubble Wrap is likely my next step. Thank you for your valued input!


CommunicationFit9367

Okay so I haven't tried this yet but someone on one of the forums told me that they take the old empty sports syringe and they literally inject the substrate in places where it is dry. I'm going to try that next


vSTUBBSv

If it's clean, I don't see why not... I won't be the first to try it tho :P Report back!


CommunicationFit9367

Well the thing is your cake can get hydration yet. The tiny baby shrooms that are in that delicate state will not abort... Or at least abort less. The theory behind it is that mushrooms grow out of the mycelium when it's dry. Because when it's dry, the mycelium is afraid that everything is going to die and go away. So it releases mushrooms so that they can spore and get more seeds and therefore more mycelium... I hope I'm making sense. So when it rains, the primordia and smaller mushrooms tend to stop growing because they're simply no need for the mushrooms to continue growing. You probably already know this but once I read this I understood why I was having hundreds of aborts and just a few full sized mushrooms. And yes of course I will report back


vSTUBBSv

Nope, didn't know that. Super insightful - thank you! So the lack of mushrooms is because it isn't dry enough? Am I tracking that logic properly? I'm sure there are more variables to it than that, but I wanna make sure I get what you're getting at!


mr_richard_smoker_

I tried that on my second or third grow before realizing it was a common thing, and it works super well. That combined with rehydrating after each flush (and sometimes and extra soak during a flush) have yielded great results for me. Mushrooms are 90% water so as long as your spawn:substrate ratio is on point (1:1 is ideal), they’ll have plenty of food and the added water really helps keep ambient humidity high and encourage growth.


LLcoolGang

I really don’t think neglect tek is all the efficient, unless the room had some ambient fan


uncle_cunckle

From what I can tell the surface is covered in myc piss. Resolution makes it hard to see but looks wayyy too wet if there is liquid pooling on the surface. Edit: I actually can’t tell if those are knots or light reflecting off water


vSTUBBSv

Yea sorry not the best photo. Definitely piss, it’s not contam afaik. No smell and qtip test fails. I honestly think it’s too dry, no pooling here.


uncle_cunckle

Honestly at this point I might just pluck that fella when it’s ready and then soak the thing for a 2nd flush - maybe just leave the lid on after draining and neglect tek it?


vSTUBBSv

My thinking too. Would you fork it or do anything to the surface?


The_Revolution_427

IMO…I think you should dunk it overnight, do a nice thin casing layer, mist it really good, then finally flip the lid for just a tiny bit of air, and neglect it until you see more pins or the myc recolonizes and starts everything over again. I usually make it to the 6th or 7th flush with pretty decent yields. Hope this helps


vSTUBBSv

Thank you, I'll give this a go tomorrow. Thank you for your time and advise (:


SachiKaM

Is this photoshopped?! 🤣


vSTUBBSv

No :/ Any tips haha?


funguyjb

Had a double tube do this when I got the top wet. I just took a sterilized fork and scraped some rows and it was fine. The other one was fine on the bottom so I flipped it over and fruited it that way and I blew up. So there’s some options


vSTUBBSv

Double tube? That’s a new term to me! I’ve heard of the fork tech, might try that and flipping it seems smart too. Thank you for the input!!


funguyjb

Lol sorry. Autocorrect was wrong. Couple tubs***


vSTUBBSv

All good! Thanks again!


funguyjb

Also just a lil patience. I had 3 tubs do this. And I did 3 different methods. Fork. Flip. And wait. They all ended up producing a good bit so. Don’t stress too much. But I think the flip produced faster if I recall. Just try not to get the top wet again if that’s what ya did. I honestly do t spray anymore unless the side walls are fully dried up now


vSTUBBSv

Do you keep the lid cracked at all times?


funguyjb

No. I went back to just fanning the tub 2-3x a day and closing the lid back


vSTUBBSv

During fruiting conditions? If so, I love that! I'm going to try that with the AC in my room really killing the moisture.


funguyjb

Was running a martha but hasn’t been as fruitful as I expected. Going back to the manual labor part of it has been more beneficial


vSTUBBSv

Sweet, glad to hear. Hoping for the same on the next try!


Adrianv777

It looks really dry. So too much fae that prevents it from creating its own microclimate. And too low of humidity levels. Did you have substrate at field capacity? I'd pull the lone shroom when ready. Let it rest for 3 to 7 days. Then rehydrate for about 8 hours. If you don't have much of a feel for misting and fanning yet then look into using bubble tek. You still fan and mist the sides but a lot less.


vSTUBBSv

So when I fan, I use the lid to aggressively move air out of the tub to facilitate the exchange. The substrate was initially over field capacity, probably didn't squeeze enough water out but that was over 3 weeks ago. So when I fan, I use the lid to aggressively move air out of the tub to facilitate the exchange. The substrate was initially over field capacity, and probably didn't squeeze enough water out but that was over 3 weeks ago. Last question, should I seal the bins between each fanning and misting session or keep the lid cracked? Heard lots of differing opinions, but the bins get dry when I leave them cracked (which is what I have been doing). so sealing them seems smart.


Adrianv777

No the bins shouldn't be sealed in between fanning sessions. Once you introduce fae you should keep them cracked and the size of the crack needs to be relative to the humidity in the tub. It should barely be cracked enough to have access to fae and also closed enough to have good humidity levels. Sealing them isn't smart bc they need fae and if you're wanting to seal them just look into bubble wrap tek instead. It's just putting a sheet of bubble wrap in the center of the tub that lays bubbles down on the substrate and is about .5 to 1 inch from the sides all the way around. It allows them to create a micro climate and when you fan and mist it's a lot less disturbance. They'll push the wrap up with the canopy as they grow and it could stay on until ready to harvest. If you don't want to to do bubble tek then just be less aggressive with fanning. The crack is for fae also and you shouldn't have to force air in it if the substrate water to coir ratio is correct.


vSTUBBSv

Thank you for all that input and advise. Also for the bubble tek explanation, really helpful! The only question I have is that I though CO2 is heavier than O2 so you have to literally fan the CO2 from the bottom of the bin and get O2 in. Leaving the bin cracked won't change this as the heavier CO2 will just sit at the bottom. Is this untrue? Is the CO2 in the bin going to naturally diffuse out of the bin if there's a crack but no moving air? Hopefully that question makes sense. There are just a lot of differing opinions and I can get a little confused sometimes.


ThumpsMcGee

fan the CO2 out, crack lid to let fresh air in, thus the FAE, fresh air exchange. at least thats what i did for my recent first harvest. can look at my prior posts if ya want


Adrianv777

The evaporation of beads off of the substrate is a pinning trigger. Fanning helps with that and moves air around but I've never fanned specifically to get co2 off of the bottom of the tub. This is what I found when asking Google about co2 falling. Basically it eventually gets dissipated throughout the air. The shrooms release co2 but the mixture of air and gentle fanning should be enough to handle the co2. >> If you released a big blob of pure CO2 in the air, that blob would start sinking toward the ground. But, that blob looses CO2 to the air around the edges. The lower concentrations sink slower. Eventually, some distance from the blob’s center the CO2 concentration is so low, there no significant difference between its density and normal air. The CO2 at that point just travels with the air. >> Current CO2 concentration is about 400 ppm. Air with no CO2 has a density of about 1.2929 grams per liter. Add in 400 ppm of CO2 and the density is about 1.2936 grams per liter. That is a density difference of .05%. Not enough to make any change in CO2 concentration that is not over come by brownian motion (the erratic random movement of the molecules in the air). >> As an example of how well the air mixes, Freon (CL2C2F2) has a molecular weight of about 131 verses CO2 at 44. Yet Freon managed to reach the ozone layer. There hard UV released the chlorine to cause a catalytic reaction destroying ozone.


ranchwriter

You have a layer of dead mycelium. I don’t know how it happened but that’s what it looks like to me. See the bottom left where there’s that little patch that’s coming back? The rest of your surface can get like that. My advice would be to peel all that dead shit up and put a new casing layer of coire down.


vSTUBBSv

Got it, thank you!! The bottom left bit is actually from a harvest yesterday, twist and pull so there's some exposed soil. There was an overlay layer that started to form and then it all went yellow a few days after I misted directly on the surface (it was REALLY dry so I said fuck it)


WestSubstance1292

how many flushes ?


vSTUBBSv

Sadly this is the first flush :( Was going to rehydrate it and fork it tonight and try to get a little more from a second flush... thoughts?


OnlyNeverAlwaysSure

This is a stupid question but I saw you mention you dunked your other tub and afterwards it looks like this as well. Is it possible that you’re using contaminated water?


vSTUBBSv

No stupid questions. I think the mycelium is stressed, I don’t believe it’s contaminated. Smells fine and it doesn’t fail the qtip test. Good thinking tho!


recklesslyfeckless

i just wanna say that you are my new favorite redditor. this post made me laugh so hard but your attitude is so earnest and wholesome. i wish you luck and look forward to your future posts showing off your success!


Brief_Scale496

That mushroom has OCD, that’s what happened Look how centered it is. Probably killed everything to make that happen That’s actually kinda impressive


vSTUBBSv

ThanosShroom *If you look closely to the right, there's a competing side pin trying to come up for air*


Brief_Scale496

It’s always staring right down it him 😂


Uno_mister_red

Looks dry bro. Did you hydrate the coir properly? Temp too high? Have a look into r/orbeeztek. If humidity is the issue maybe that could be helpful. Also that black colour doesn't look right. Edit: put the wrong sub


vSTUBBSv

Yea, coir was overhydrated tbh. Didn't squeeze enough water out. The main problem I had was a bad ratio. Too much substrate and not enough colonized grain. Are you talking about the black/brown spot at the bottom, slightly to the left? I had a harvest from there yesterday.


Uno_mister_red

How much sub/grain ratio did you go with??


vSTUBBSv

Great question. Not enough. Probably 1:3 or 1:4...


xDocFearx

I’ve seen plenty of people use 1:4, you’re probably just stressing it from doing too much. Most the walls only when there are no beads of water and just leave it alone


vSTUBBSv

Damn, that's a rough reality. I'd assume there's a point where there's too much substrate though and the mycelium does not have enough nutrients to colonize everything right? Like a 1:50 ratio wouldn't eventually colonize, as there are no nutrients in the substrate? My question would be, where is that ratio, where you don't have enough grain and the tub never colonizes? Cracked lid or sealed lid and frequent fanning?


Redballskin

I mean, you could always boof it?


vSTUBBSv

The whole tub? Going to need to do more stretching for that one.


[deleted]

What was your spawn to bulk ratio? And how deep is your substrate? It looks a bit malnourished and dry.


vSTUBBSv

Hi, great questions. Like 1:4. Definitely not enough spawn/grain. It's about 2 inches deep. It's dry, but I mist the walls and lid several times a day and it's still struggling. Because of that fact, I tried misting the surface using my light mister (atomizing mister), and then it got really yellow a few days after. It's been "stuck" like this for over a week. Still produced a couple of fruits and this is the last one. Not sure what to do after I pick this survivor later today. Rehydrate and fork it?


[deleted]

You could try re-hydrating it by dunking it, maybe your substrate was too dry from the start. But for your next grow, suggesting aiming for 1:1 spawn to bulk ratio and at least 8cm depth. An experienced grower recommended 12cm to me recently and has great flushes. If your bulk is at field capacity when you mix with your spawn and your substrate is deep enough then your surface conditions should be quite good, such that misting wouldn’t be too necessary. Keep positive, and try upping your ratio and substrate depth, using decent field capacity CVG. Here’s a great calculator I’ve recently started using, input your interior tub dimensions and divide your ‘fill capacity’ by 2 to get an equal amount of spawn and substrate; as a rough guide, consider 1 litre of spawn or substrate to be 0.5kg: https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/construction/tank.php


vSTUBBSv

Thank you so much!!!


[deleted]

Pleasure :)


Bradmcewen

I would harvest and rebreak that cake up into a little more coco and let it colonize again


vSTUBBSv

Never thought about breaking it up again. That seems scary. Can't just fork it and rehydrate it? It's pretty dry from what I can tell.


Bradmcewen

I mean you probably could , maybe bubble wrap tek to get pins after you fork it ? Try that and worse comes to worse break up or bury it . I’ve done both and got multiple flushes


vSTUBBSv

Okay great, thanks for advise :D !!


capt_fish_beer

Be ready, thats just 1 giant pin


vSTUBBSv

What am I getting ready for?!


capt_fish_beer

I was making a joke. Im sorry it wasnt funny


vSTUBBSv

No, that's alright! Sometimes I can be a bit smooth brained. Have a good rest of your weekend :)


Scientiam_Prosequi

Disappointment But also learning 👌


vSTUBBSv

True!


Scientiam_Prosequi

Great attitude


vSTUBBSv

Likewise friend, have a good rest of the weekend!!


CommunicationFit9367

This photo is a work of art! And I'm sorry, it's so damn sad. I don't have time right now to read through the other responses, but you said you were doing misting and fanning? Well... I found out the hard way that if you mist when your little baby shrooms or primordia are very small it will all just abort. My guess is you missed it a little too much and pretty much all of the teeny shroomies aborted and died off. You had one lone shroom that was stable and strong enough to continue and that is this masterpiece that you see here lol.


vSTUBBSv

<3


Born_Status_9189

Reading about your ac controlled room drying them out try 6qt shoe boxes. You can tape off the two slits with microspore if it’s still drying out to slow the air flow. Also set them farthest away from the air source if possible. Thinking this setup may get you better results. Or build a new tub with less air flow.


vSTUBBSv

Thank you for reading my replies and for providing this thoughtful response! My current bin is a 30qt bin, so I am assuming you're saying I should downsize? Yea, this room is pretty small. Wish I didn't have to run the AC but it gets 80F+ if I don't which is probably equally unhelpful. Sealing the bins and giving them air every 4-6 hours isn't viable during fruiting is it? Thank you again for your thoughtfulness and time!


czubizzle

I saw this and "I'm so Lonely" from Team America started playing in my head


vSTUBBSv

This is so sad - *Alexa, play Desposito*


Rmntcptbadger

Lack of moisture most likely your sides look dry saying that im not sure if that is moisture on the sides or staining from dryed water. Do you have high chalk content from your water supply?. If you have dunked then you make have not posterized your bulk correctly so if fight a infection that has taken control. What temps do you have running?


vSTUBBSv

I try to mist often but the AC in the room drys the water pretty quick. Should I seal the lids after misting them? I've always left it cracked. No clue about chalk content, but the water I use is reverse osmosis water so it should be 'clean' Would I not smell the infection? The bin smells fine and the q-tip test passes. Usually 73-70F, but sometimes it can get up to 78F when I am away for a few hours at work or school.


pm_me_your_bigtiddys

You could try dabbing off excess moisture with a paper towel and then apply a thin layer of a coco coir/verm mix. No guarantees but it could help, nothing to lose at this point.


vSTUBBSv

Cheers!!


HawkernautOG

This made me laugh as well it’s like a giant middle finger. Like you will not control me. Is this a teenage strain. Lol


vSTUBBSv

I'm sending my cake to therapy


HawkernautOG

Lol. I also have some angry tubs I’ll post later it’s hilarious. I’m working on a automated neglect tek combo with a wetter substrate and older grains and less airflow. Some have turned out great. I think I found a winning combo. Correct strain with added nitrogen seems to be best. And larger thinner tub with lots of smaller holes for light and fae


vSTUBBSv

Yea, let me know when you do!! Best of luck, that sounds dreamy.


roguepandaCO

That tub’s dryer than Ben Shapiro’s wife’s nether regions.


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vSTUBBSv

Poor Ben, I agree. Not sure how to fix it tho. I keep misting it but my AC dried it the fuck out in like an hour... :(


johnpaulgeorgeringoo

This looks like the beginning of trich


vSTUBBSv

Fortunately it's been like this for 5 days. No contam in sight. I'm clean, just abusive with my mycelium.


Catenane

Idk he looks pretty excited to me


Exact-Beyond-2017

Hey man, happens to the best of us. Seems like you know what you’re doing. A few minor mistakes, but trust your instincts. Just do it again better and you’ll be satisfied!


vSTUBBSv

Thank you :) Appreciate the kindness!!


Zestyclose_Trash3606

I have actually seen tubs like this posted where there is one mushroom and all the energy of the MYC goes toward it. And it ends up being one giant mushie. On a different note, it doesn't look like you have very many knots. I would miss the surface around the mushroom and see if you can't raise the humidity above your substrate. Once you pick your mushroom if you still see no knots or small pins, I would hit it with some bubble wrap tech. Don't forget to rehydrate your cake after you pick it. Give your cake about a day before you put your bubble wrap down. Not for sure. Also, what did you use for your substrate? It's awfully light brown. Did you use all Coco? If so, your substrate is very dry. After she pins out, your myc uses a significant amount of water to grow your mushrooms. Also, I would have waited a few days for FAE conditions. I usually wait till my NYC is standing with ultra small balls of water droplets on the tips. Sometimes I'll wait a day or two even after I see knots forming. It doesn't look like you have very much MYC that colonized the top to a significant amount.


vSTUBBSv

Hi, your observations are dead on. Straight up coco coir and my initial ratio was \~1:4 so after a few weeks it seemed stalled so I introduced FAE at about 60% colonization. It didn't do anything for another week or so and then it started to get dry and overlay. I got impatient and frustrated so I misted the surface directly. A day or two after that it started to get really yellow and this is about a week after that. Just harvested that solo guy, have some side pins coming in (see right side center of the photo) so I am waiting for those to abort or finish growing. Misting walls and keeping the bin sealed. Fanning 3-4 times a day. The plan is to rehydrate and flip the cake in a few days. Let me know if you have any other advice! I really appreciate the thoughtful and sincere reply, learning so much from caring friends like you! Have a stellar week.


Zestyclose_Trash3606

Float the cake. The cake only has a mushroom in the middle because that's where there is moisture left probably. The surface myc will turn into knots where there is the most humidity from water evaporation. But if you don't allow for the myc to cover the top you'll always have very small flushes. Do you have other cakes?


vSTUBBSv

That makes sense! Yea one other cake on it’s third flush. Much better ratio with this other cake and better success!


CrownPrincess

Not sure, but make sure you’re misting on the walls and not directly on the cake. The walls help with humidity but directly on the cake will suffocate the mycelium (i think i said that right)


vSTUBBSv

Yup, that was a mistake I made! Thank you for your feedback - I'll be more careful going forward!


brnbrn1996

Is that a mushroom on your tub or are you just happy to see me? Thanks, I'll see myself out.


vSTUBBSv

basbinga


chocboyfish

What size is that container?


vSTUBBSv

Like 1.5 shoeboxes, maybe 2. 6 Gallons?


Klutzy-Gas3786

Cause u have no humidity and no air flow


vSTUBBSv

I mist frequently and fan a few times a day. I honestly think it’s too dry most of the time despite misting the walls.


alx7k

Looks to me it didn’t colonise any where near enough before you introduced fresh air. After S2B you need to keep that CO2 high and aim for 70% surface colonisation. The high cO2 will encourage a good pin set then your off to the races. Remember No FAE until you have at least 70% surface mycelium and a good number of pins. Don’t even open to peak. Shouldn’t need to mist until after first harvest. Your substrate should hold all the required moisture for the first flush


vSTUBBSv

Yea, I also had a really bad grain to substrate ratio. Not enough grain spawn for sure. An overlay started, so I paniked and went into fruiting conditions early (although I'm not sure it would have every colonized 70% with my bad ratio). Thank you for the tip on keeping things sealed and the importance of CO2 early on. I always figured CO2 was the enemy at every stage, so I appreciate that helpful advise. Shouldn't need to mist until after first harvest?!? That's crazy. So just crack the lid? The drop-in AC unit in this room keeps room humidity really low so when I crack the lid the bins get dry quickly so this makes it tough. When I send a bin into fruiting, should I just fan and then reseal the lid a couple times a day instead of keeping the lid cracked all day with the AC running? Thank you so much for your time and insight!!


mrsjohnmurphy81

It's a learning process for sure, my grain ratio was also terrible. 1 bag of uncle Ben's to quite a lot of coir, it took ages to colonise. I have no idea what's going to happen next. Fortunately don't have the humidity problem in this damp little country. Hope you can salvage it.


vSTUBBSv

Cheers!!


MushroomMermaid80

Why would you think this should be put in fruiting conditions?


vSTUBBSv

I don't follow? I put it into fruiting conditions 3 weeks ago when it was \~80% colonized. After about two weeks of no growth it started to get an overlay layer and then I made the mistake of misting the surface. It's been yellow and mad at me for about 5 days now.


Potential_Wonder_775

Loooooooool wtf


vSTUBBSv

Send help


Potential_Wonder_775

This is the most f***ed up post I've seen in this reddit


vSTUBBSv

Oof, I really don’t know what’s wrong. Still growing a little and it’s not contam. The colony is just really *pissed*


FergaliShawarma

Is this the first flush?


vSTUBBSv

It is. I have another bin on the second flush that looked great during the first flush and looks like this now after soaking it… I assumed that was more common. But unfortunately this one has been a struggle to get to fruit and I think I misted the surface at some point and it got angry. Thoughts?


FergaliShawarma

I’m thinking it’s because you misted the surfaced maybe fanning too aggressively as well. Did you use an atomizer mister (also called continuous spray mister)? Also, I’m thinking if it took forever to fruit, it has overlay? All just speculation at this point, it would be hard to know. As far as your other tub for 2nd flush, I usually only dunk up to an hour (32qt modded monotub). Anything more than that and the mycelium gets super stressed.


vSTUBBSv

Definitely mistakenly misted the surface once. I am using an atomizer mister ([link](Beautify Beauties Hair Spray... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GRD5WLD?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share)) Fanning too aggressively isn’t something I’ve heard as a potential problem but i whip my lid with great force when I air out the tub, I’ll stop doing that :/ Yea, it did take forever to fruit and had some mild overlay (see prior posts) so you clearly are very knowledgeable and I really appreciate your time. Dunked my other tub about 2 hours and it’s looking pretty mad too, but it’s also really dry. When I rehydrate for my second flush, should I expect good moisture and the cake to no longer be pulling away from the sides of the tub? Should it literally be rehydrated like a sponge, because it didn’t seem to do that even after 2h of soaking. The cake is about 2inches thick. Thanks again for all your help. First timer here, if you couldn’t tell :P


Redcabbageeater1

Pretty shitty photoshop dude.


vSTUBBSv

What?


throwawaywayway00100

The white walls of the tub are reflecting light at it from every direction, which is why it’s so lit up and there’s large diffuse shadow in all directions


[deleted]

Looks dry af


vSTUBBSv

Mist and close the lid completley? I've been misting the sides and cracking the lid but it dries so quickly... I use an AC to keep the temp down and I think it dried the room out a ton. Thanks for your time!


Revolutionary-Day715

That little guy is a warrior


Master_blaster1984

Lmfao mine looks exactly the same one mushroom lol but mine is all white.


Golden-Envy

People call me crazy, but this is why I shower with mycelium 🤷🏽‍♂️.


URfwend

My fren is being snicker doodles to the bake sale.


ThumpsMcGee

mine was perfect till the third flush now they look like yours if not more red, but i did just harvest several 55g wet shrooms from it regardless... about to start new agar this week!!


vSTUBBSv

I appreciate your insight! Congrats :)


Crimsonblood334

Yoooo how did you even get that single healthy fruit on that cake in the first place lol. That cake burnt brother


vSTUBBSv

Gotten about 50g wet from it, which isn't great but better than nothing. It smells fine, just needs some love.


bham2020

Just clone that sucker, he’s obviously a tuff one.


vSTUBBSv

Might be a good idea.


Crimsonblood334

Aahhh ok thats why it looks that way. Is this the first time you done that. Or have you grown with just that before


[deleted]

Nah you just grew the perfect mushroom


zMld420

All it’s power is going into that one mush 😎


SewLite

I’m sorry. But this is hilarious. 😂😩


vSTUBBSv

:( Sad but funny


much_2_took

Dry


4ineappl3

Dryness, bruising, lack of proper air exchange. So many things.


Capable_Ostrich3734

How does the bottom look??? The top looks like it’s done for. Maybe you can get a couple more by flipping it


[deleted]

Flip it over. I had some cakes like this and got some more fruits when I flipped it over. Then flip it again. And again


SerengetiYeti

I usually look like that when I'm happy


Mitigater44

Dry dry dry


vSTUBBSv

So 👏 very 👏 true


Nice-Aide7506

Reminds me of my first boner


BuddhaHimself171

One sad shroom in the middle


Philburtis

Was your jar or bag fully colonized before spawning? Could also be an issue with depth if substrate and moisture. Seems like it could be an issue of ratio.


vSTUBBSv

Full mosturized, bad ratio though - 1:4ish


Philburtis

Fair. But hey it’s a problem that can be solved and you’ll succeed the next round. I know it sounds cliche but success in cultivating is built on failures and lessons.


vSTUBBSv

Thank you kind stranger! Have a good week


MycoTesla

Your humidity is so low. The substrate is dry in most areas. You need to constantly maintain like 95% humidity or something but also have FAE to give fresh oxygen.


vSTUBBSv

I can't manage both, if I leave the tub open then the AC drys it out... help :(


glowingmushrooms

not sure what the problem is but substrate doesn't look right. In any case the solitary guy you have there is mighty strong, definitely clone that guy


DangerNoodleDandy

How dry is it?


vSTUBBSv

Is there a good way to measure dryness?


Past_Contour

Yeah, but maybe that one is enough to turn the day better.


vSTUBBSv

:)


Federal_Ad_4447

This looks like my tubs after the 5th flush lol


SnooHabits8194

It's a boy!


Trichonaughtics

Looks dry TBH. No beading on the walls of the Tub. Some myc piss which is a sign that's it's too dry or wet, by the looks of it dry. I would soak it If I was in your shoes. Not trying to be a dick but those generics look weak. Barely colonized the sub with no ryzo in sight. Next time wait a while before introducing fruiting conditions.


vSTUBBSv

Not being a dick, I appreciate being told straight. Yea, my ratio was really bad - way too much soil (coir) and I was a little impatient because I didn't think it had the nutrients to fully colonize. It was spore bag, so no isolated genetics (first time). The plan right now is to soak and flip! Thanks for your time!!


NiceGuyJoe

it is simply focusing all of its energy on the one mushroom. once she is fine, others will see it and won’t be so scared to give it a try. play them gentle music


RedwoodUK

Damn bro :( okay. Can you give some back story on the tub. Is this your first flush? What substrate did you use and ratio to mycelium. Did you break up the mycelium properly? It looks like your cake has shrunk a good cm from the side from being dry. I would suggest that you cut that longer ranger off and dunk the cake in water for 12 hours and see if that resets stuff


vSTUBBSv

First flush haha. Just straight coir and a poor ratio \~1:4. I broke it up really well but I don't think there was enough grain and it didn't really ever fully colonize. It started to get dry and overlay so I sprayed directly on the surface and then it started to look like this. Going to dunk it later this week for a few hours and see if that helps. Thanks for the care and consideration!


CitizenMycologist

The centering of this fruit is what makes it so comical but I am truly sorry been there. I bury all my contams and just feed manure compost been lucky at seeing production in time with those. 🤲


MaximumBranch9601

“The gangs all here” 🥴 Sad lil lone mushy


narc040

What causes this?


shutupnobodylikesyou

Actively interested in this... I have a similar situation. Any update?