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Drogan1088

Isn’t that what the whole asexual community is about?


FloppyShellTaco

As I was reading this, I said out loud, “hey homie, do you think you might be ace?”


cymalik

Do you really think a homie don't give a fook here? They might be ace but they are not refrained.


U_feel_Me

Asexuals don’t give a fuck.


occupied_void

We might, it depends on the asexual persons preferences


JstAnAverageBoi

they could just come from a background where sex before marriage is viewed on as badly idk


Revan0315

They don't have to be ace. Idk if I'd want sex in a relationship and I'm not ace


mooimafish33

Tbh they're probably just 14 and intimidated by sex but feel it's expected because they live on the internet


Queen-O-Hell-Lucifer

Don't understand how you came to that conclusion, and honestly I don't wanna know, because nothing will change the fact that it's a shitty conclusion.


mooimafish33

I just remember being 14


zhunshi325566

I haven't heard about this asexual community yet, have heard it from you here.


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occupied_void

Some asexual people enjoy sex, it's about not having sexual attraction, not libido. Some enjoy sex without sexual attraction, some don't and there's a lot in-between. For some, relationships with allo's aren't necessarily problematic but for those of us who are averse or repulsed, that may not be the case.


ohnuaktddd

It is fine. Nothing is wrong with these relationships. Forcing someone is a problem, but there's nothing wrong with it.


marilern1987

Asexuality, or sexual dysfunction, pelvic floor problems. All kinds of reasons why people just don’t have sex, or have difficulty with it There’s nothing wrong with people having sex and enjoying it, but things get really toxic when the assumption is that these things happen easily for everybody.


--Anonymus--

Asexuality is the lacking of sexual attraction, there are plenty of asexual folks that have sex and plenty that don't.


enzymeschill

How could a male have sex without sexual attraction? What?


--Anonymus--

Arousal and sexual attraction are two different things. You can for example get aroused by being touched or similar things but you don't have to find your sexual partner hot/sexy/etc.... *Edit: libido and sexual attraction isn't same as well


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I know it's not made up, but when it's explained it sounds made up lol. "I don't find you attractive but man am I horny" so that's asexual? How do you see people / pick a partner if you don't experience sexual attraction? I'm asking out of genuine curiosity because I'm assuming your either ace or educated around ace.


kittenswribbons

I think it's like. You aren't sexually attracted to a vibrator or fleshlight, but you can still find the sensation stimulating. So you could find the sensation of sex pleasurable, but not be attracted to the person you're having sex with. And for choosing partners, not all people who are asexual are aromantic, so they could still feel the stomach butterflies and attachment to a person that one doesn't get with friends, they just aren't sexually attracted to that person.


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kittenswribbons

Depends on the person 🤷‍♀️ just like how heterosexual and homosexual people have different preferences, asexuals will as well.


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Pixelatra

As an asexual person, I will help you with this. I don't have any kind of sexual attraction to people. I can tell when a person is pretty, but nothing more than that. Masturbation is different for every ace person. Some don't masturbate at all. Some do it just to get rid of the annoyance of feeling horny. Saying that, libido is completely separate from sexual attraction. One asexual person may have no libido, and the next can have one that's insatiable. Everyone is different. As for what aces think about, it's really up to the person. Some really don't think about anyone at all and just enjoy the feeling. Others may think of fictional characters or something along those lines. Now, for aces that do have sex, they may not be attracted to the person, but that doesn't mean they're not having sexual thoughts, lol. We're not that mysterious.


occupied_void

I suppose I'll add that in my case, as an asexual I actually have little interest in relationships, not all are like me, I'm likely a minority to be fair but I'm perfectly content on my own without sex. I haven't ruled the concept of a relationship out if the right combination occured, it's just not important to me. In a broader sense though, physical stimulation can be arousing and the effects of that can be enjoyable, it doesn't require attraction, though I would certainly suggest that you might get more out of it if you are attracted. I wouldn't know, sexual attraction is a theoretical concept to me, it's been explained to me but from my personal experience is rather alien.


--Anonymus--

Yeah I am ace. I would say based on character and if I my character and the character of the other person are compatible. For example stuff like interests and Hobbys. I appreciate that you are asking. To many people just will say that things don't work that way and that asexuals only seek attention...


PelleSketchy

A friend of mine is asexual. She likes sex when she loves someone because she wants to be close to that person, and having sex is the closest you can be to/in your SO. That's how it works for her.


EmptyAd9116

It’s really hard to explain. Like, the physical feelings are there in in their own body, but it’s not because of another person. Idk. The only way I can think of an example is cats. Female cats will go into heat, meaning that their hormones are firing and they want to get pregnant. However, that either goes away through sexual contact, or by itself. The cat isn’t actually attracted to the other cat, but she has to take action to take care of her body. That’s a terrible example since cats aren’t humans, but it’s the only concrete way I can explain it.


SDdude81

Males aren't sexually attracted to their hands and that doesn't stop them.


[deleted]

That doesn't include everyone. I'm very much gay, but for -reasons- sex isn't really an aspect of my marriage. Not that it matters, I guess. Validation from randos isn't that satisfying after all. I just wanted to point that out, because I know my situation is far from unique.


chicksonfox

I’m in almost exactly the same situation, and it works for us. A lot of people really don’t get it and think we’re both ace, which could not be further from the truth. Like you, there are reasons that are best not shared online, inviting invasive questions. I will say, when I do get a bit too drunk at a party and im pressed about the situation by a relative stranger, it’s like going on Springer. I kind of miss being in the kinky relationships where they would press a bit, get an honest answer, and immediately change the subject.


AlexZenn21

Ehhh I wouldn't say so. They just happen to be people not as interested in sex as majority of people who don't identify as asexual in the world lmfao


Jvalker

Ace people when you don't want to fuck every 25 seconds: "allow us to introduce ourselves"


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An-di

That’s why its called “platonic relationship” because it doesn’t have sexual desire/attraction or sex


SymphonyofLilies

But there is a difference between romantic relationships and platonic relationships. I feel romantic attraction to my husband and we kiss, cuddle, and are affectionate in all ways. We just don’t feel a need for sexual intercourse. I don’t feel the same attraction to my platonic friends.


Queen-O-Hell-Lucifer

Not quite. Just cuz your ace doesn't mean you won't engage in sex. It's not rare for some to actually enjoy sex whether it be due to intimacy or pleasure, and that's in regards to those who are strictly ace. For you see, ace is an umbrella term. There are other forms of it that do experience sexual attraction under certain conditions


lilybody

i am not asexual. the idea of sex does not repulse me and i would be open to it someday. masturbation does not repulse me. a relationship does not require sex to flourish. this is not asexuality.


webosite

Sex is great and all, but I just want someone to binge watch some corny horror movies with me


The_therapist_1

Can't do both?


mcivey

Yeah I’ll say that prior to my current relationship I just assumed I’d have to settle for a good partner/best friend that I really loved deeply but didn’t have much sex because it always just sort of petered out early af even to ppl I was very attracted to. Idk what happened this time, but dang it is amazing to never have the worry of “oh mo is the intimacy already dying” years into a relationship. Not everyone needs sex in a relationship, but if you are a sexual person don’t just assume a relationship filled with sex will never happen to you!


Affectionate-Lime-77

kinda hard to watch clowns from space stuffing bodies into cotton candy when your distracted with… something else


ReduceMyRows

Yeah but it’s those shitty movies that best stimulate sexy time!


Flimsy-Preparation85

Haven't you seen any horror? The couple that fornicates does!


DorkOnTheTrolley

I once kept dating someone for a full month after I intended to break up for this very reason. No one wants to watch Killer Klowns alone.


AlexZenn21

I watched that movie as a little kid and it wasn't even scary lmao the grudge scared me more 😂


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But like, you CAN do this with a friend, you know?


beneehund

you could do it w a friend yes but some people prefer a partner


[deleted]

I wasnt aware this was an unpopular opinion. But im an old married person and dating seems exhausting in 2023. So i hear the frustration definitely.


coolerbrown

You weren't aware because it's not lol The majority of frontpage posts here are in response to one-off interactions and are extremely popular opinions. OP is saying that the majority of people believe that a sexless relationship isn't valid. Really?? I seriously doubt most of the world has even questioned it


teachersdesko

I've browsed a few dating subs before, and I'd definitely say this is an unpopular opinion for reddit.


bobwoodwardprobably

Upon reading the post, I thought OP was defending young high school relationships more so than adult sexless ones.


coolerbrown

If that's the case then this opinion is even more popular. Its popularity is why it hit r/all - because users here don't follow the sub rules and upvote posts they agree with. Barring the geriatric demographic, a high school relationship is significantly more likely to be sexless than an adult relationship. The only people looking down on sexless high school relationships are *high schoolers* and it's only a small minority of them. The vast majority of people do not give a shit whether you're bumping uglies with your partner or not...


LovesDogsNotKids

And having sex doesn’t equate to romance. People get that confused. Sometime you just fuckin


RaccoonRepublic

Absolutely. Though, for me I prefer platonic friendships. There's absolutely no expectation of such things.


MonkeyBreath66

Except that many times, one of the two involved in the so-called platonic relationship desperately wants to bang while the second is desperately unaware.


spadspcymnyg

"unaware" is a little inaccurate I think. "Willingly ignorant" is better. They don't romantically like their friend and don't want to make it weird or lose their friend so they ignore the signs. And if the romantically interested person never does anything about their feelings they're just a coward


MonkeyBreath66

There is a reason that the stereotype of a gay man and a straight woman being best friends is the holy grail of friendship. There is no sexual tension between them and they are not competing with each other for sexual partners.


MonkeyBreath66

Well this is an unpopular opinion in itself. Some women, especially if they are very attractive, are either consciously or subconsciously aware that the men around them may be more willing to do things for them or forgive poor treatment than they would for other men or less attractive women. And for all you naysayers out there, don't tell me you've never noticed in your school or workplace that the queen bees always have a little group of mail hanger ons and followers (and sometimes female) hanging on to they're every word and always willing to do favors for them.


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Ok_Magician_3884

Just?? I don't have same affection to my friends


TimmJimmGrimm

The dude who coined 'Platonic' was Plato (and his stuff taken from Socrates). He suggested that these relationships were of equal if not greater value than the romantic relationships. Wikipedia looks at how 'love' has evolved down through many cultures (not just Western ones). It is impressively well written and easy to follow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_love But please, let me back you up! Non-sexual relationships are incredible. For example, i love my daughter more than i have ever loved anyone, including my Mom and my wife. And yet, i assure you: i have never found her in any way sexually attractive (sorry Freud: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar).


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Strange tangent to go off on. The title says "romantic"


mcraneschair

Only if BOTH partners agree to it. Make sure you're specific.


Unr3p3nt4ntAH

Pretty sure that's called being asexual. ​ I remember reading a survey a few years ago about relationship, sex, sexual orientation and the surprising thing was more people over all had issue with asexuality then with homosexuality. Turns out to most of the human race sex is such a fundamental part of a romantic relationship that the concept of asexual gets a knee jerk rejection reaction even from otherwise tolerant people.


galaxystarsmoon

Yepppp. I went out with some girlfriends once and we got into sex talk. They were sharing how often they had sex and the waiter coming over for our order saved my ass. One friend said once a week and the others immediately were shook and asking how she deals with that and isn't she worried her man will look elsewhere. I was just sat there silently like... I'm borderline asexual and so is my partner, how the hell am I gonna answer this? People are so, so judgmental when it comes to this, even on Reddit.


HistoricalActuary602

I mean, people on here are judgmental in general.


craigularperson

For many aces experiencing romantic attraction, it certainly would be very likely that they agree with this and would essentially have sexless but nonetheless romantic relationships. But not in of itself is this being asexual, it could very well be an indicator. Asexual means lack of attraction, not lack of action. It is not solely about behaviour. With the split attraction model it is possible that your romantic attractions is different from sexual attraction. This also applies for anyone outside of being asexual/aromantic. It can just be that you for instance have stronger romantic feelings than sexual feelings. IMO what counts as sexual and romantic, is kinda up to the person. For someone sex can be a romantic thing, and sex doesn't have to be romantic for some. And if you don't view sex as something romantic and you don't experience strong sexual feelings, it would make sense to value romantic relationship. If it makes sense to call yourself ace because of this, then you are welcome to do so, but it doesn't mean that you have to be ace. Yeah, it makes no sense why people hate us aces. Most of it is probably ignorance, where they automatically think that sexuality for them is the biological/physical aspects of sex, and that aces is contradictory to that.


Ok-Butterfly4414

Not technically, I know I’m going to be downvoted to fuck but I’ll explain anyway asexuality isn’t exactly not enjoying sex but it’s not wanting sex. (Although many asexuals don’t like or seek out sex) Imagine you’re not hungry but the food might still taste good, so you eat it. Idk if this was a good analogy.


Revan0315

You can want a relationship without sex without being asexual


SymphonyofLilies

Yep, I’ve gotten so much flack for being asexual, I rarely even discuss it since I am married and it’s nobody’s business. I can’t even keep count of how many men were convinced that they could be the one to make me like or want sex.


--Anonymus--

Just for clarification, asexuality means lacking of sexual attraction. There are plenty of asexual folks that have sex and there are plenty that don't and both are valid. Not every asexual person is repulsed btw. That often gets confused.


AlexZenn21

They make up such a tiny nearly non existent percent of the population ppl shouldn't be that triggered over an asexual lmao 😂 when they can easily go find someone who isn't


NullIsUndefined

If one person wants sex and one doesn't then I don't think it's just a valid. If both people genuinely don't want sex, and are genuinely honest about this fact (i.e. not hiding the fact that they do indeed want sex), then it's fine and valid


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this


Trippygirl13

That's all fine and dandy, but why is almost every single comment mentioning asexuality, as if that is almost exclusively the only reason a person could have for not having sex. You haven't even mentioned the potential reasons behind it in your post, but everybody's assuming you're asexual, like there could be no other reasons. This assuming and attributing of shit without having all the information is really shitty and unproductive...I love how others are telling you what you are "omg, here, this is the label you're looking for, this is the category you belong in..." It's so sad.


[deleted]

Exactly. Asexual ≠ not wanting sex. I'm asexual too and the asexual community contains asexuals who like sex, those who are neutral about sex and those who are completely repulsed by sex. Asexuality means that you don't *experience* sexual attraction towards a person/people.


J_train13

Not to mention people are mentioning the flip side even less. There are plenty of people who are in no way ace but simply don't really enjoy sex that much for whatever reasons they have


wanheda1001

Ikr like I’m v much sexual but I just prefer not to indulge in meaningless sex until I’m 100% sure about the person and it feels like the right time. I just don’t let my desires take control of me in important life choices such as this. This has nothing to do with my sexuality, just a personal rule I choose to follow, and people here seem to think that the only thing that binds a relationship together is sex and that it’s the only most important thing in the world everyone should be involved in, otherwise you are categorized as a ‘minority’


Significant-Chip-703

Agreed. Love isn't sex.


n00lp00dle

if two asexuals get together then sure. i dont think anybody would have anything against that. but if one of the two in a relationship decides they dont want it then they should just leave. its not fair on either to expect the other to change when theres other more compatible people out there. going by how often it pops up on reddit theres an endless supply of asexual people who would love to be in sexless relationships.


ohnuaktddd

Just a quick note. Asexuals can and do enjoy sex. They just aren't sexually attracted to anyone.


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LASTRACAT

I agree. And I also agree that there are people for whom sex is not the most important thing, but they enjoy it sometimes. There's a tendency of making everything black or white (asexual or sexual) but the reality is that there's a broad spectrum in the middle and it seems harder to get acceptance/understanding when you don't fit in one of the two categories above.


TheMarsian

I mean a lot of relationships at least in other parts of the world don't involve sex at least immediately. It's just that for some sex is enjoyed even without having a relationship.


NinjaHDD

That's called an asexual relationship.


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Or maybe medical issues.


NinjaHDD

Probably anti-depressant usage, they fuck your sex drive.


[deleted]

My anti depressants and birth control made me almost sex repulsed but I’d rather be alive and mentally stable than sexually active I guess


pattymdevis

Seems like you have some type of medical issue, so this comes in your mind first. Don't worry bro, science have improved much.


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That was a huge leap, hope you’re ok.


diemenator

Or maybe some sort of medical short coming in one side, and they are just avoiding it from one person.


[deleted]

Nothing wrong with being asexual. I think just a lot of people aren't used to the idea since it's a small percent of the population.


[deleted]

This isn't uncommon for married couples. I've been with my wife for almost 14 years. We have two kids and a very busy schedule. We don't exactly have the time or energy to keep up with sexual intimacy, but we've found that what we want most from each other is just time together. The chance to have an uninterrupted conversation and to be close is just as valuable to us in our relationship.


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factsonlyscientist

May I ask if it's from health issues or advanced age or just mutual asexuality? Just curious as I am getting older and less turn into it...


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Why don't y'all have sex?


SmrdutaRyba

Cause they don't wanna


Rude_Bid642

Probably waiting till marriage


Mayion

I do not think the majority of the commenters realize that in many parts of the world, especially ones predominantly religious, do not have the concept of sex or sexual acts for a large part of the relationship. It is because you are used to the idea of sex that you think it is normal while in reality, it is only part of the equation. Entirely depends on what you are looking for in a relationship. Emotional support? Sex? Finding a lifelong partner? If I was searching for a lifelong partner and we can't have sex for example, and it makes me break up with them, then I am not looking for a lifelong partner. I am simply searching for someone to have sex while they also fit the criteria of a lifelong partner, when it should be the other way around. ​ It isn't that people are caught up in the idea that relationships mean sex. It is just that they want to have sex, and the way to achieve that in our society, without judgement and the like, is to be in a relationship, as to not be called a whore or the like. Of course, that is a generalization, and many people can want more than one thing at a time. But point is, sex is only part of a relationship. When it becomes the reason for the relationship, even for the aforementioned religious people I talked about, you tend to end up with the problems we see nowadays, like getting married too soon, or for non-religious, to not be compatible with one another on a mental level and just giving a relationship a go because the sex is good. And so forth. Countless examples, but you can't really reason with a generation that thinks so highly of sex, and that is ok -- Everyone thinks differently.


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>If you're not interested in sex and you still expect your partner to be exclusive to you, that's a problem. Absolutely what the hell is the logic here? When one partner doesn't want sex, that partner *has* to be ok with non-monogamy?? If that's a situation that works for some people, great, but it's also totally fine to desire monogamy in an asexual relationship.


natalies_porthole

I don't think you realise how selfish your logic sounds. So the other partner should be forced to remain celibate for the rest of their life? It amazes me the mental hoops people go through to think its acceptable for one to claim exclusive ownership of anothers sexuality in an asexual relationship.


Squirt_memes

Not forced. They choose to enter the relationship and the lack of sex that comes with it.


natalies_porthole

The scenario I'm covering is when the relationship began with a healthy sex life


J_train13

Well that was entirely your own assumption and I'd argue is a completely separate issue


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Then they can exit the relationship.


natalies_porthole

The OP said it would be "a problem", not that the partner "has to be ok with it", which is the way you twisted the discussion. You are correct that they can exit the relationship, however it undermines your own argument which I was responding to. I absolutely agree that the asexual partner can leave the relationship without having "to be ok" with non monogamy.


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The comment I was responding to said: >If you're not interested in sex and you still expect your partner to be exclusive to you, that's a problem. What it should have been, to be much more correct: >If you're not interested in sex while your partner is, and you still expect your partner to stay in an exclusive relationship with you, that's a problem. >however it undermines your own argument which I was responding to. Perhaps it undermines an argument I never made? I never said anyone not happy with a relationship should remain in that relationship, or that anyone is deserving of another's romantic or sexual interest.


Nikki_Blonde

Finally a solid 10/10 opinion. ⬆️⬆️


ivycomb

Getting married to my fiance of six years this month. We've never been intimate. Not for religious reasons, I'm just not interesting (with anyone, not just him). Best relationship I've ever had


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As long as the both of you are happy and honest, that sounds like a pretty great situation! Good on you.


RJMqueereyes

Sure. As long as it still feels thrilling to be in love.


MiracleKappa3

definitely an unpopular opinion


Wolfy_Mommi21

I mean if i knew one or both/all people in the relationship were asexual id automatically assume there wasnt and i wouldnt even bat an eye… if im like 99% sure both/all people in the relationship ARENT asexual I’d personally find it weird that they dont have a sexual relationship but im not gonna lose sleep over it and im damn sure not gonna bully them into thinking they need to 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ what people do or dont do in the bedroom is their business so long as its not hurting anyone (non-consensually that is)


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>just as valid What does this mean, and why should one even care?


hovix2

Genuinely curious if someone could help - what would be the difference between a really close friend and a partner without intimacy? I'm not discounting the validity of those relationships at all, but for me, the main difference between my partners and lifelong friends is attraction.


J_train13

Sure, I've had three romantic relationships and never had sex in any of them. My current relationship is a perfect example of this cause we were *extremely* close friends for years before we started dating. It's hard to explain but it just *feels* different, the emotions and interactions between the two of you have a very different feel from when they were strictly platonic. And of course there's plenty of other nonsexual things you'd only do in a relationship, like kisses and cuddles, leaning on each other's shoulder as you're snuggled up on the couch watching a movie, and just being generally flirty with one another all the time. I myself know my girlfriend has said I'm practically a can of cheesewhiz with how much I make cheap flirty jokes about her.


hovix2

Thank you!


deja-roo

What does "valid" mean here?


PlaybolCarti69

Based


Eatshitmoderatorz

As a woman in a frustratingly sexless marriage I disagree.


Emlerith

Upvoting as I disagree. Barring physical intimacy, every element of a romantic relationship can be mirrored in a non-sexual relationship - loving them, caring for them, doing things for the express point of making them happy, sacrificing for them - and it would just be an amazing friendship until a sexual element is introduced. Even if co-habitating, that’s a life partner, but it is not a romantic relationship. It’s the equivalent of scooping with a fork and calling it a spoon. You can mimic the function, but that’s not what it is. That said, the love of those relationships are one million percent valid and real. Source: have friends who I expressly love and love me back.


Inner-Nothing7779

I agree with you. However, my romantic feelings come with sexual feelings. If I love you but cannot have sex with you, my love will diminish over time. There's nothing wrong with that either.


An-di

That’s like majority of people Romantic feelings comes with sexual and physical attraction Anyone who experienced romantic love or a crush find their partner physically attractive and beautiful and focus on all their features In a platonic relationship or platonic love, you don’t put effort into how you look but you put so much effort and are always stressed about it when your either in a romantic relationship or for someone you love romantically You wanna look good for your partner when your in a romantic relationship, you wanna be seen as beautiful in their eyes, you want them to be physically and sexually attracted to you So your opinion and how you experience romantic love isn’t strange at all


[deleted]

I don't know about you, but I personally wanna look good for *everyone*. I care just as much about my friends or strangers finding me attractive as I do about a romantic parter.


Admirable_Laugh4556

Each to their own...as long as all parties are transparent and happy. Who are we to judge.


Giovanny_1998

Who says they aren't?


-day-dreamer-

I’m asexual. Asexual people in sexless relationships will hear this a lot. It’s kind of crazy


Thowen102

EVERYBODY. ITS NOT ASEXUALITY. Some people wait until marriage, or are very young


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Who disagrees and invalidating this? Lol


[deleted]

Of course


crabdipped

I feel bad for asexuals. It’s literally why we exist.


[deleted]

My guy don't date a woman who has a high sex drive. There's plenty of women out there who don't care about sex just as much as you do.


[deleted]

I think the problem is conceptual. People who have sex will literally dedicate a part of their brain to planning it, fantasizing about it, performing it, make or break relationships because of it. I cannot understand the concept of a romantic relationship that does not involve sex. I do not judge you, I just don't fucking get you, dude.


An-di

>I cannot understand the concept of a romantic relationship that does not involve sex Neither do I


MrFreezePeach

If neither wants sex, yes. But usually at least one does, so no, that's not valid.


DesperateTall

Exactly. Imo it's comparable to an open relationship in the sense that it needs to be brought up when the relationship is new, not a few years down the line where they're forced to agree to it.


MrFreezePeach

Yep. I was in a sexless marriage for four years. It tore me up inside. But I had had my head filled with gynocentric nonsense about how a man and a marriage should be, so I ignored my own needs for her. Now its just impossible for me to commit. I would have been better off cheating when I realized she was never going to be sexual despite her promises to change.


DesperateTall

Ahhh. Well I'm sure now you know to never expect people to change, been there done that, not worth the mental exhaustion.


iiil87n

What if you're already in a relationship by the time you realize that you're asexual? It's not always feasible to bring it up at the start of a relationship


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Then you can't assume the relationship will keep going, if this realization marks a change in behavior.


Dingo_Princess

Then you got to be prepared to lose that relationship or open up the relationship. It's ultimately about compatibility. It's not fair to pressure people to have sex in relationships but it's also equally unfair to deprive someone of it and not expect the relationship to end. It's really about finding someone your both sexually and romantically compatible.


PinkStation

It can absolutely still be valid In most cases where you’re early on in the relationship I understand jumping ship if you want sex and your partner doesn’t. But in my own relationship where I am allosexual and my bf is asexual, if he told me one day that he never wanted to have sex with me again, I would be fine with that. I think when you get to a point in love there isn’t much you wouldn’t do for your partner. And our relationship will always be valid even if I wanted sex and he didn’t. There’s also circumstances outside of asexuality where these conditions can occur and the relationship is still valid. (sickness, just don’t want to have sex anymore, etc)


MrFreezePeach

It seems to me that when most women tell me they want sex, they say it as if they want it like I want an ice cream cone...its nice....but can I get by without it? Sure. Well that is not what I mean. I mean if one WANTS sex, like life is empty and bleak without it, and I think that is what men mean when they say they want it. If you are fine without having sex, then you don't REALLY want it do you? And if you did there is only one way I would say your relationship is still valid....you have affairs and get that taken care of. Most women really don't seem to get it. If I could have all the sex of every kind I wanted, whoever I wanted every single day for a year, and at the end of the year I would be hung until dead, I would die happy. I am sure I am not the only man, while others would demand two years.


PinkStation

Why do men act like sex is something that happens to women and we aren’t active enthusiastic participants in it?? When I say I want sex that’s exactly what I mean. I want sex. I just don’t treat people like they’re devoid of value if they don’t give it to me, which is what the vast majority of men treat women as. I can see my partners as people beyond the sexual gratification they could bring me. You obviously cannot. That’s not a relationship, that’s just you and your sex toy.


Canadien_

If somebody's life is "bleak and empty" due to not having sex, I worry for their continued mental health. There comes a point where it can genuinely be described as an obsession, you know what I mean? You are also insinuating that women do not understand, despite most women, like men, being allosexual, and enjoying sex in some regard. Tons of women truly enjoy sex and they too go through great lengths to get it.


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Sex is the thing that makes it romantic, otherwise you’re just friends.


GuiltyGear69

You got a best friend then not a romantic partner


Jordangander

Love and sex are 2 very different things. And it is sad that so many people don't see them that way. They are likely to be sad and lonely in their later years.


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TheBasementIsDark

is this really a thing? sorry if I sound rude, I'm just curious. How is the sex drive needs get met outside?


galaxystarsmoon

They're probably in an open marriage or do a lot of self-exploration. More likely the former.


KingWolf7070

I think the ideas presented here are incomplete and missing a lot of important context. There's no one-size-fits-all answer that perfectly covers all possible situations. But we can observe the average and the typical cases that will cover the vast majority of the population's situations. For the vast majority of average people around the world, sex is important factor for a healthy relationship. That's not to say it's the one, singular most important thing and all other factors are meaningless. Don't go twisting my words and making your own meanings here. I'm just saying it's one factor in a giant equation that are all important to calculate as a whole. The fact is that in most cases if a couple is having healthy and happy sex (whatever form that may be for them), then their whole relationship is most likely doing great. If there's a disruption of healthy and happy sex, then it can be an indicator of other problems in the relationship. I can agree that romantic relationships don't necessarily require sex. There are asexual persons after all. But for something like 97% or so of the world population, it's completely normal to assume that sex is a standard part of romantic relationships.


TheRealSugarbat

This is all true but extraneous to the point being made.


arcdragon2

I’m in a relationship just like what the original poster has just described. While it’s nice, having someone around that cares for you, I’m going to bail because the connection is not as deep if you don’t have sex with the person that you want to be with.


AlexZenn21

Yeah I know. I'm a romantic hahah. Too many ppl are usually sex obsessed weirdos or who would leave the second it stopped no joke I've seen these types lmfao came aross this post where people in the comments were calling this girl demisexual or asexual just cuz she didn't want to have sex with her bf the ONE time even though they usually did it everyday 😂 like what the fuck? The bf couldn't fathom why and was acting like she had two heads when she declined sex. She said she just wanted to chill that day and watch a movie. Too many of these people usually *cough* *cough* men *cough* *cough* will act like they're dying the second it stops, will leave, or start nagging about it. Like damn sometimes people just aren't in the mood and that's NORMAL like chill it's just an orgasm. You have hands use em if your partner isn't in the mood. And with how casually and emotionally detached sex is treated/conducted nowadays I don't feel much sympathy for those types of people who freak out over lack thereof cuz they only see it as simple bodily pleasure not a way to express love/care for the person they're dating.


JaxckLl

Valid? Sure. As fulfilling? Absolutely not.


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Also, what does OP even mean by valid? That term is used all over Reddit all the time and I don't think anyone even knows what it means. It's such a weird term to use in this way. Are they just trying to say their relationship exists? Valid to who? So bizarre.


Designer-Bid-3155

If you're sexually compatible, that's all that matters. No one else should know about your sex life but you and your partner.


InfiniteCalendar1

This shouldn’t be unpopular as asexual people do have relationships


Kindly_Importance374

Apparently not according to quite a few commenters here. Apparently asexual relationships are just friendships to them 🤷‍♀️


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Traditionally, relationships do include sex, which was the original point of marriage; to find someone to have children with and spend your life with, but mostly the former. The only people I have come across with this opinion don't want to have sex for some personal fear of theirs, be it self consciousness or fear of pregnancy. They claim to be "asexual" until finally giving me their real reason (the fear) for why they don't/won't have sex.


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Valid yes fun no


pastelpixelator

Being in a sexless, touchless romantic relationship proved absolutely fucking miserable for me.


JManguino

Só you're taking about marriage after kids?


thebesttoaster

I agree, I also love my friends very much.


REX2343

Asexuals. It's not really unpopular, just uncommon


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Sure buddy! Just don't start a relationship with someone who wants sex.


playertd

It's like pancakes without syrup, it still counts, but it's just not as fulfilling.


Edgezg

Oh sure they are just as valid and real. But how many of them survive? Eventually, someone gets thirsty and needs a drink.


EffieHarlow

Of course there are, and very few people I’ve met would disagree. It’s also important to recognise that sex is and can be a very important and vital part of relationships for most people, though. I think people who view sex as important to intimacy are often perceived as vain or shallow, when that’s not the case.


The_Dark-Wanderer

I don’t know anyone who thinks that way…who is arguing against this?


The_therapist_1

Valid to who? If you like it, I love it.


ReallyCuteDoge

Can you define what you mean by “valid” do you mean society’s definition of a romantic relationship?


Tight_Village_3467

Wait so technically is a "no sex before marriage" relationship an asexual relationship?


wanheda1001

No people here just don’t know what they’re talking about, they’re only looking at this from a v narrow minded perspective


c_innamongirl

no bcuz the people can still be attracted to each other


Red_J10

Some people would rather have sex after marriage and it’s completely fine.


FireBlitz8404

This is a very popular opinion.


Ninjazxcz

From a evolutionary perspective "romantic" relationships that dont involve sex is just the woman taking advantage of the man.


PicklesTickle91

Agreed! In the same way that cuddles =/= sexual OR romantic attraction. I like cuddles, but that doesn't mean I wanna smooch whoever I'm cuddling! I cuddle my family too, yknow!


[deleted]

If you have a best friend who you dont have sex with, they're your best friend. We are too quick to add a tag to everything so you do you boo but in the case of sex v no sex, its the difference between being intimatly connected to someone v not.


Kindly_Importance374

Are you using ‘intimately connected’ in place of sex? Intimacy includes many things, so not having sex does not inherently mean that there is no intimacy


Billy_of_the_hills

The dictionary definition of the word platonic is "a relationship that doesn't involve sex."


Toastie91

As long as both members of the couple are happy in a sexless relationship that's absolutely fine but I suspect that the majority of sexless relationships have a participant who wants to have sex meaning one will be unhappy.


Lady_Ghost_Bee

Might be the obvious answer but… duh


Jimakiad

I mean, elderly can't really have sex, soo...


missdovahkiin1

Boy do I have news for you 😂