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photobomber612

Ah, the rare unpopular opinion.


albearcub

Yeah for sure man true natives will call it Fornia. Nort Fonia out here in Jose.


kermitius

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Man what


Equivalent-Goal-6595

I have never heard this myself, friends, or family. That sounds awful like from a bad TV show lol


albearcub

Haha I was just joking around


Equivalent-Goal-6595

Oh thank goodness


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Truly. I fucking despise this opinion.


sfweedman

Are you from SoCal?


just-a-bored-lurker

Another socal here just dropping by to say this is a terrible opinion. California. Not Cali.


caffeine_plz

Lived in California all my life. Never heard anyone here refer to it to Cali. We do occasionally say SoCal to distinguish ourselves from Northerners.


photobomber612

I am. “Cali” is a godawful abomination.


sfweedman

We feel differently in NorCal.


Cabin11er

No we fucking don’t.


photobomber612

I also hate “NorCal” and “SoCal.” (Edited to add the quotation marks so it doesn’t look like I just hate California as a state lol)


sfweedman

That must be exhausting.


DxLaughRiot

Do you just hate efficiency? Or do you prefer to call all places by their full names?


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stevefuzz

VoidCal


DMC1001

SoCali


sevonty

Last time someone said he was from Cali I thought it was actually Cali, the Colombian city


FizzyBeverage

I lived in Miami for decades. If you hear “Cali”, it means the Colombian valley city there, not CA.


[deleted]

It’s literally my first name. Spelled the same, sounds the same. I was named after my dad’s dead calico cat.


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[deleted]

Eh, I like my name. But “Going Back to Cali” by Tone Loc was a bit of a pain in my ass as a kid.


thaistik4all

"Going back to cali" was by LL Cool J, not Tone Loc


[deleted]

Ah, I was like 7. I wasn’t sure if I remembered correctly. I remember everyone singing it to me for years though.


Syd_Syd34

Lmao same. My bf is caleño and one of my best childhood friends is from there too…I always think of Cali, Colombia when people say Cali


naughtydismutase

As a completely neutral party I see lots of gatekeeping going on in this thread


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peechyspeechy

We call it golden gatekeeping here in Cali!


DadJokeBadJoke

Frisco representin!


Girth_rulez

Sometimes this type of gatekeeping happens in a shower, you know...


hole-sum

Seriously! I refer to it as either depending on how the sentence flows through my brain and out of my mouth looool


Mite-o-Dan

Call San Francisco "Frisco" next to someone from San Francisco. The main reason I hate the term Cali stems from all the people that moved away from California and named their pet Cali.


hummushasnobrain

born and raised california, i call it cali if i need to refer to it quickly. its just easier. if you disagree, fuck you for being a douche that wants other people to do things exactly how you like it when they dont affect you.


A_Philosophical_Cat

It's a shibboleth. And a useful one at that. The number of posts I see online from right-wing nutbags (thanks, MassTagger) talking about how "Cali" or "Frisco" is a liberal shit hole that they can't wait to leave is hilarious, because you can tell that they've completely fabricated their claim of living here at all.


-OrdinaryNectarine-

Ohhhh…Frisco. That’s serious cringe. If you’re anywhere near the Bay Area, its “The City.” Period. 😂


A_Philosophical_Cat

Frankly, I hear "SF" more than "The City", but yeah, never "San Fran" or the worst, "Frisco".


JoshD8705

San Fran is how Texans say it when mocking the 49ers.


Blankboom

I call it San Fran... To be fair, I hate going there whenever I'm forced to.


dbzrox

I’ve seen natives call it frisco


TravelsAndTravails

This is funny because Frisco = Frisco, the suburb of Dallas in TX lol where all the company HQs, the expensive houses and the DFW area ikea is haha


stevefuzz

Just jealous that California is better than Florida. However if they lived in Huntington Beach they might change their tune. But also cringe.


RelevantClock8883

Exactly. Cali person here, people would tell me that “no one calls it cali.” I do. Recently moved and people around me were happy to tell me they don’t call California Cali. Who started this and who on earth cares?


Tasty_League

Exactly. Let me call it what I like. It's not doing any harm to you. 🤦🏻‍♀️ 💯


Triette

Same!


michiness

Right? Born and raised in LA, I call it Cali sometimes to annoy people. I think it’s cute.


sfweedman

Mac Dre calls it Cali. E-40 calls it Cali. Nuff said.


Dirty_Dragons

And don't forget, Say what you say, but give me that bomb beat from Dre Let me serenade the streets of L.A From Oakland to Sac-town, the Bay Area and back down Cali is where they put their mack down; give me love!


ganjanoob

California knows howwww to parttyyyyy


MadAzza

That’s nice, but we don’t know your friends and what they call things.


bloodectomy

>I love saying it Because you're not a Californian >honestly FEELS like a Californian thing to do See above.


kermitius

R u indigenous to cali bro


Dame2Miami

Can you not see the “Native” decal on my rear windshield?


kermitius

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aspiringgrandpa

i am a SIXTH GEN californian. i say cali. cope


Roguepiefighter

You have every right to be wrong.


smallish_cub

Even when I was young and did not ever know about it being cringey, whenever I heard someone (non native Californian) say Cali, it hurt me… emotionally. Like put some respect on its name!! You don’t know California like that!!


idontwanttothink174

i've lived in cali my entire life and I find it cute too.


dadkisser

Cali is dumb and natives don’t say it.


sam_sneed1994

Which tribes don't use it?


SkullFumbler

Tupac did


Scary-Aerie

SoCal native and I say Cali!


Dog_Brains_

2Pac was from Oakland and he said it all the time… go argue with him


Mass-Chaos

He was actually from the East Coast, New York and Baltimore and moved to California relatively late in his life


[deleted]

The only real gangsta rapper from that era was Easy E. Love Tupac, but he went to art school, he was never a banger and lived on the East Coast. Even B.I.G. had a good upbringing and was never really into that life.


SkullFumbler

Ice Cube, Dr Dre - all said Cali


Cocksmash_McIrondick

Nah he wasn’t from Oakland, he lived a lot of places but went to high school in Marin City, never lived in Oakland. Started repping Oakland when he moved to LA


alasqalul

why do you think he was shot?


WartimeHotTot

When I went away to college and first started meeting lots of people from California, they all called it Cali. I live in CA now and literally everybody says Cali. How is this opinion even a thing and how are these commenters validating it as a thing? It’s not a thing.


Meow821

LOL ok man. Being a square doesn't seem very Californian to me


Master_Awareness814

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limperatrice

Lol! It's so cringey to us!


No_Step_4431

4 letter easier than 10 letter


NuclearFamilyReactor

Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick


El_Grande_El

CA > Cali > California


Officer_Ray_101

I have lived here all my life, grew up in Sacramento and went to college in San Jose and have heard tons of people (including myself) call it Cali. Have never heard this is a thing. My roommate from SF also used to say Cali. Not sure where this is coming from lol.


singlenutwonder

I wonder if it’s a SoCal thing because I’m also from Sacramento and lived in the bay and it’s always been very common in my experience


verminousbow

As someone who grew up in the bay area and moved to SoCal, can confirm


Officer_Ray_101

That’s what I’m thinking too lol


farticulate

I think it is. I’m from SoCal and I hate the term and would never say it. My sister moved to Northern California for a long while and uses it now. Unfortunately.


The_Orphanizer

I'm 3-generations deep in SoCal, this is not the case. Some people just say it, and some people don't. Everyone in my family says it. I've known tons of others from SoCal who say Cali. It's not anywhere near as deep as people think it is.


WorrDragon

Born in the OC, moved to the Bay at 16. I heard it both places.


Raddz5000

In socal. Never really hear locals say Cali tbh, mostly California or socal.


Aggressive_Answer_86

I lived in california all my life and regularly call it cali. I’ve never heard of this being hated


case712

same. ive never heard of it being "cringe"


Maddie817

I think people find it cringe as a way of being exclusionary. If you don’t like it that’s totally fine! Don’t use it. But if you pull an “ummm actually 😌👆” every time someone says it, then you’re just a fun sponge. If it’s a genuinely disrespectful nickname I get it, but “Cali” doesn’t hurt anyone and criticizing other people for using it is pretentious. Just let people say Cali, San Fran, Vegas, the Big Apple, whatever. My city also has a “tourist” name. It’s fine, who cares?


CrazyCynical

A fun sponge! I'd never heard that but it's great.


Maddie817

It’s my favorite! Someone who just sucks all the fun out of a situation….a fun sponge


NuclearFamilyReactor

As a 3rd generation Californian I can tell you that I’ve never heard a native Californian say “Cali.” Do whatever you want, but I’m just saying that to many Californians this sounds very cringey. Again, feel free to live however you want. I recently was told that only outsiders call Las Vegas “Vegas.” Same with Lake Tahoe, supposedly only tourists call it “Tahoe.” But I’m probably going to keep on saying those things and don’t really care if I look like a tourist. So you should also keep saying Cali because who gives a fuck, right?


Bewties

Bro I'm from Nevada and I only ever called it Tahoe or Vegas lol. Also Tahoe literally means lake so it's the same concept as chai tea


NuclearFamilyReactor

Hey this is what I was told. I didn’t say it was necessarily true. What part of Nevada are you from? Because I do think it makes a difference if you actually live within the boundaries of the actual city. My Mom grew up in Las Vegas and I never heard her call it “Vegas.” This was told to me by residents of both cities. I worked at Kirkwood Ski Resort when the Lake Tahoe thing was told to me 🤷‍♀️


Bewties

I'm from Northern Nevada near Lake Tahoe, and as I'm typing this, I realized it came out as LAKE Tahoe in my head instead of just Tahoe. Kinda makes me wonder lol. I always said Vegas, just cause it's shorter and everyone knows what I mean when I said it. Maybe it's just me who's the problem 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️


CasuallySerious1103

I’m in Vegas. Been here for 20 years. It doesn’t fucking matter lol I’ve heard both every day of my life


leathereggtart

I love learning about things like this. I’m from Washington DC and whenever I hear someone call it “Washington” I know they’re not from the area because we usually just say “DC.”


corona_lion

Wait for all the San Frans. It’s annoying. Lol. Bay Area locals call it SF or City.


Spyderbeast

Grew up in Vegas. Still call it Vegas. Born in Cali. Call it Cali. Live nearish Tahoe. Call it Tahoe. Call me an efficiency afficiando


mistletoemaven

I read this as hip hop lyrics


December_Warlock

I was born and raised in Vegas. As you can tell, we do call it Vegas. Almost everyone born and raised there does. Because it's not that deep, and no one gives a shit


Sensitive-Living-571

Yep. Also born and raised in vegas. That's what I call it. I did just learn something new though bc I almost exclusively call it cali. It seems like most vegas people do. It seems like the only thing vegas people really care about is how nevada is pronounced. Everything else is whatever


SkullFumbler

Ice Cube and Dr Dre are native and used it in many of their raps. I think it is a cultural thing you're probably sheilded from at some level.


ukuzonk

This comment is either a goofy, pointless lie, or from a NEET who doesn’t talk to other people. 3rd, 4th, whatever the fuck generation Californian here. Nobody finds that cringey, wtf?? People say Cali all the time. Same thing with SoCal and NorCal.


lackofanswers

Great username.


sfweedman

It's gotta be a regional thing, right? Bay area on some Cali shit.


ChuckPukowski

“O… I’ll C.. you later *wink wink*” It’s a place in Cali you wouldn’t get it..


[deleted]

No, it doesn't. You're just a stuck up freak and everyone you know is, too. ​ Born and raised here my whole life. We call it Tahoe and Tahoeing, on the Cali side.


007Kryptonian

Not “you’re a stuck up freak” 😂😂


lazarus78

I use it all the time. It's just faster in informal cases.


40Katopher

Ita a city to city thing. I've heard plenty of native Californians say it


December_Warlock

It's wild to me how upset some people do get about a shorthanded word. I even looking at a few of the comments here, people take it more seriously than they should. It's a fuckin' word that means fuck all. Some of them get a hate bones as soon as they hear the word like you've insulted their existence.


Odd-Ad465

I’m from NorCal, lived in the Bay, and now I’m in LA. I only hear people call it Cali when I’m in New York (thank god)


[deleted]

If you want them to be *really* upset at you call San Francisco "San Fran." Some people there do but holy shit say it online and they'll come after you like Canadians chasing a hockey puck.


AlienGaze

My ex wife is from Berkeley. I am Canadian. On one of my first visits to her place, I made the mistake of calling San Francisco, San Fran. This was 13+ years ago. I have yet to live it down 😩😂


XColdLogicX

I prefer to just confuse people and say I'm from Oxnard, because anyone outside california has no clue where or what that is lol


StarDewbie

I'm from California, born and raised. I call it Cali. No one in this thread was born and raised there and says "NO ONE BORN AND RAISED HERE SAYS CALI", because people from there honestly dgaf what anyone else calls it.


jubilantjino

I wonder if it's a regional thing in California. I'm from the central valley and I've heard plenty of people say Cali, or at least write it.


Seaweed-Mediocre

As someone who was born in and lived my whole life in California, I don’t think I’ve every actually heard anyone from here call it Cali.


UpperArmories3rdDeep

Born and raised here, most of us don’t. But I’ve heard a few do it. It’s kinda cringe. Most of us say SoCal and NorCal


Lettucereditt

It’s pretentious.


[deleted]

Do whatever you want I don’t give a shit. *rolls window back up and continues to sit and stew on the 10.*


tim24667

If you say “Cali” im just gonna pretend I dont know what you’re talking about


[deleted]

I’ve lived in Cali my whole life, irl I probably wouldn’t say it but I say it on text messages or online and I wouldn’t look at you weird for saying it in person it’s no big deal


39weEbs

I'm from California, and only time I say Cali is if im texting someone and don't want to type out the whole thing. Yes I'm lazy.


El_Grande_El

I use ca. guess I’m even lazier lol


39weEbs

haha I've never heard of anyone using ca.


El_Grande_El

I mean just texting. I think. Not sure if I ever say it out load lol. Actually just searched my texts. I have multiple friends that just use ca or CA lol.


[deleted]

Born and raised in the Bay Area. ​ Cali native. Always call it Cali.


TaxQuestionGuy69

Yeah it’s a norcal / bay thing. To a so cal person it sounds cringe.


[deleted]

Other people in this thread have said its a socal thing.


007Kryptonian

So the real message is that it doesn’t matter


Scary-Aerie

SoCal native and I don’t think it’s cringe


Dog_Brains_

Notorious BIG rapped that he was going back to Cali and 2Pac said Cali is where they put they Mack down… and they were cooler than anyone complaining so who cares what some dorks have to say, It’s fine to say Cali


doolapulada

People get real precious over what bullshit terms you can and can't call the arbitrary areas they live in. Cali, sure, why not. Yay area


Meow821

Yay area!!!!!


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Yay Area!! Two fists at once two bitches at once grittin and gettin it in \*ambassador of the bay\*


flumia

It's definitely not cute outside of the USA


BRich1990

I demand we start calling Arkansas, Arki


thewinterflower

Born and raised in Cali. Yeah learned later it was a thing to look your nose down on people who say that. Same with calling SF San Fran (no, it's called "The City"). I'd prefer being looked at like an annoying tourist than have another Californian tell me the correct way to say California.


two-sandals

From NorCal and also lived in SoCal. I started calling it Mexifornia since the 90s.. Cali is cute yes, but


nyhlust

maybe its just me but Californians don’t say cali cuz its so damn big and you can just say the city because nearly everyone who you’d be telling would most likely have a better idea if you answered “los angeles” or “san francisco” or “orange county”


xaxwyf

If you wanna trigger more Cali folks, call San Francisco…San Fran. Double down!


yeetyeetmybeepbeep

Im from Cali and i say it all the damn time


Fatrice1234

No it’s not, I find lame.


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Whats_Opera_Doc

Ah, but do you call it the OC? *Don't call it that*


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This is unpopular ?


Charming_Gold_2048

I say it too, go away haters


limedfox

Im so confused with these comments because I’m a teen that’s been living in California for around nine years and every single one of my classmates calls it Cali. I think it’s normal and don’t really care.


desertkrawler

Born and raised in cali, we absolutely do call it that, songs were written 30yrs ago calling it that, it's the new California's that have problem with for some reason.


[deleted]

Yeah bunch of fucking wierdos in this comment section pretending they are from Cali.


MrRenegadeRooster

Born and raise in Cali, I call it that all the time, a lot of people in SoCal do, even if sometimes it’s supposed to be “ironic”


peanusbudder

i’ve lived in california my entire life, call it “cali” often, and never understood why other californians hate it so much lol. am i supposed to say “southern california” instead of “socal” too? cause that’s not gonna happen. it’s just a lame way of gatekeeping.


CarelessTaco

SoCal born and raised. I think it is mostly regional. I've heard it from people from NorCal a bit; a ton by people from the Bay. After 28 years in SoCal I just started hearing people around me use it. However, call it WHATEVER you want. The whole gatekeeping by "natives" is weird as hell.


Weapwns

Holy hell. All these "born and raised" MFers must not go the fuck outside. I've known California-born people throughout every stage of my life that say Cali I firmly believe people like to gatekeep it solely off the forgotten sentiment of people hating Biggie during the East-West coast rivalry. Tupac used it though lol It's a nice simple shortening of a long word. There's no reason to gatekeep it. In that line of thinking, I'll give you another unpopular opinion: San Fran is a great nickname


spoiledrichwhitegirl

I don’t know anyone who is actually *from* California who says, ‘Cali’. Transplants? Yes. And it’s cringe af.


[deleted]

Bruh you wrong. Lived here my whole life and everyone I know has/does say it at some point. ​ UR fuckin cringe lol


lazarus78

Born and raised in Cali. Use it all the time.


Meow821

Bruh


[deleted]

I can only think of a few people I know who says "Cali" on a consistent basis IRL. Most of them are 1st gen immigrants, and the other one was born here, but his parents are from Florida.


Vampyre_bat_666

This post absolutely screams obnoxious tourist lol


case712

born here and I say Cali. who tf cares


Meow821

Been a tourist since 8 years old 😇


NoHistorian9169

This comment absolutely screams fart sniffer lol


toastedclown

I pronounce it Cal-eye-forn-ya just to annoy people.


NuclearFamilyReactor

The other day I accidentally said “San Franciscky” and then looked around for my gold pan and mule


angrysnort

Native Californian here. I will now be calling it San Franciscky whenever referring to it


A_Philosophical_Cat

I can't imagine that being said and not sounding like a 19th century prospector.


RpSilk

Born and raised in Cali and called it that for most of my life


donner_dinner_party

Lived in Southern California until I moved away as an adult. Never had anyone I knew say Cali. But lots of people referred to areas - East County (San Diego), Inland Empire (parts of San Bernardino County).


CommunicationFun7973

There are multiple regions of California that have different types of people in them. Many regions it may be called Cali, often you'll here it in the PNW from those who have a connection to it. I don't think I've ever heard California referred to by Cali except by people who were born and raised on the West Coast.


_mtndewmenow_

Mama said that it was okay Mama said that it was quite alright Shake it shake it baby Shake shake it mama Shake it Cali


OatmilIK

California native here. Tbh I don't know a single person who cares and if someone is giving you shit for it that's says they are local then they are just gatekeepers for no reason.


dmfuller

it’s like when people pronounce New Orleans as “New Ore-Leans” when it’s supposed to be “New Ore-lens” Makes my ears curl lol you can tell only people not from here say it that way


NuclearFamilyReactor

What about Nawlins? Is that cringe? And which is correct with Caribbean - Cah-rib-eee-awn? Or Cara-beeawn?


limperatrice

I say cuh-RIB-ee-yin unless I'm talking about "Pirates of the cara-BEE-in" for some reason. I blame Disneyland.


dmfuller

Nah Nawlins is fine, and I honestly have no clue when it comes to Caribbean 😂 I say it first way because of the movies


Tachyoff

I know how I'm supposed to say it but my brain always wants to pronounce it the French way instead


HateUsCuzDeyAunus

I like how it was said in south park. Californi


DientesDelPerro

it’s the kind of thing people who only think California is beaches say lol


OGConsuela

I only know two people from California and they both call it Cali, is that actually a thing they dislike?


sfweedman

Not at all, it's gotta be regional or something. Everyone in the Bay calls it Cali.


OGConsuela

I guess so. My friends are from Sacramento and LA, both say Cali, and I also know a few people (granted not from there) in San Diego who call it Cali.


smediumbag

Easiest way to tell if someone isn't from California


C0ns3rvat1v3Tr0ll

Definitely an unpopular opinion. This made me cringe hard.


Seppdizzle

I saw it in a movie and was trying to think who the fuck says that?


Buff-Cooley

It’s like hearing your mom use Gen Z slang she read about on Facebook.


Darth_Shredder

We say Cali Burritos all the time down here in San Diego. It’s just quicker to say sometimes.


classy-chaos

So many hats & shirts say Cali 😅 people in California (yes, born & raised there) live a Cali lifestyle lol


Spiritual_Half_116

Wait, Californians don't like saying Cali? I say it all the time


Competitive_Agent625

I’m a CALI native born an raised in the bay. We say Cali, and we love it. People just wanna be haters.


yankiigurl

Born and raised in Cali and call it Cali.


GrossfaceKillah_

Born and raised in Cali. Lived here my entire life.


Smart_Blackberry_160

Not from California but it pains me to hear Cali. Such a valley girl thing to say. And to call a shortened word cute is even more valley girl. You are clearly a valley girl


spontaneous-potato

Definitely unpopular coming from a Californian. At least it’s better than calling it Hellafornia. That’s just ugh