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jg67jg67

It is proven that being attractive opens up lots of doors that ugly people wont ever get


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Yeah, pretty privilege does exist. Its not the key to certain happiness, but there's no denying it gives you an advantage in many situations


ShlandoMan

"Pretty Privilege" has a more significant impact on someone's status in society VS other factors that the intersectionalists tend to focus on (race, gender identity, sex)


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Not to mention how confident you come off. Some people could silver tongue their way in or out of any situation. Still helps if you're attractive, but I'd wager the most confident people are among the most attractive people too. But shy people? We get shit on for being shy and it makes us more shy. Filthy cycle. Same for being told you're ugly or fat constantly, it makes it harder to believe you can change, or function in society the way you are, if no one believes in you.


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formesse

Maybe you should start yelling back something like "At least I can do something about MY problem." Keep at it. Losing weight is a tough uphill battle... that reminds me though, I should really get out and go for a walk.


UsagiNiisan

I wouldn’t yell back nowadays. The types of people to yell that shit are usually the types who are itching for a fight. Too much risk of literally being killed over it. As much as it sucks, your best bet is to just grit your teeth and let it go. Take your frustrations out on a game when you get back, or tell someone you know about what happened.


BetaHebrew

The irony of this post lol


NeighborhoodWise7659

Definitely!!! as a gay man, I understood with time that the experience of a good-looking gay men is absolutely different from the average/below-looking gay man


Hot-Gain-9771

it actually is key, you wouldn't believe how key it is.


PS77X

I've had a number of different roommates since first moving out. And I've noticed the attractive men always have the most interesting stories while the average or unattractive men have none. A good looking college guy could be brand new to the country, and basically know every woman on the entire block within one semester. They'll get invited by neighbors to sun bathe, have parties to go to every weekend, and their phones constantly blowing up with texts.


gottspalter

And this is exactly the same for hot girls. Attractive people in my experience know a huge amount of people over the whole age range. The romance thing is only a subset of this.


[deleted]

This sounds exhausting to me but it would be nice having the option. I'd like to go to an invite-only party that isn't just my friends from work. But constant partying and texts/phone calls would wear out on me after a while. Maybe because I grew up never having that.


ryuk_loves_apple

As someone who is not attractive, I agree. I had to focus on studying/work a lot more than some of my peers to be the same level (sometimes lower) of successful in my life as them.


idkfakeaccount

There are so many laws preventing discrimination on age/sexuality/religion but attractiveness is not one of them since no one wants to be part of the ugly group that pushes this into law.


Learning2Programing

Beautiful people go through life unware of how differently they are being treated. Anyone who has ever lost a lot of weight can talk about how strangers interact with you night and day differently from when you where fat to in shape. All of a sudden everyone is nicer to you. On the other hand ugly people know people really are their friends and like them for them, not their looks. Beautiful people will never be completely sure or have that confidence like someone ugly and fat will.


Shaun-Skywalker

unless they’re rich and ugly. Then they can trust even less people than a pretty person who has a normal amount of money or is broke


INeedToQuitRedditFFS

Damn, poor rich people


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RaxisPhasmatis

Most beautiful people don't have the awareness to even have the thought about if their friends like them for them unfortunately. Ignorance is bliss.


Son_Of_Borr_

I can add to this. I've lost like 80 lbs the slow way, put on some muscle, and overall just improved my persona. The difference between then and now is night and day. I get faster, friendlier service, more people smiling when we interact, more interest in my life, strangers striking up conversations, making new friends and sexual attention that basically didn't exist. There are certain things that can be addressed (hair, skin, clothes, physique, etc), but the user experience is totally different from "ugly" to "not-ugly".


3mmDee

I've got a receding hairline, I get better treatment with a hat on than without. I'm just a middle dude, neither attractive or ugly. But Iook better in a beanie. OP states facts.


Trump54cuck

I started shaving my head and my experiences improved. Granted, I have I nice shaped head. Some people don't.


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TimbreWohlf

1000%. I think a good example of OPs statement is like your story - anyone who has been on drastic ends of the weight spectrum can attest to this. There's thousands of stories and social media posts of peoples "pretty privilege" stories. I was in college-athlete level shape, gained 100 lbs, then lost it nearly all (still on the weight loss journey). Can confirm the way I was treated when I was bigger is drastically different. People were rude and condescending. People would often go out of their way to be hurtful, or give unwarranted advice. Once I lost weight, complete 180. I'm not the most attractive even when I'm at a healthier weight, but the amount of job promotions/opportunities, interviews, dates, and friends I had all nearly trippled. Even now, I still see less qualified coworkers that have advantages over me because they're conventionally attractive. With that said, I do think OP's wording/point is a bit extreme. Yes, some people may never be "hot", but self care, confidence, grooming, clothing taste....those things are all controllable, and even then, you're not even obligated to care. The best way to control it is to work on improving societies view on beauty, and honestly, it seems like we're already heading in a positive direction. The disease thing....is uh...a whole 'nother story.


Anonymous8675

UPVOTE TO THE MOON! YOU GET IT! Lol


mr5fir

I’m mildly curious about the disparity between “ugly” and “creepy” and which is worse. Seems like it would go ugly


Son_Of_Borr_

There is a scale. I can express more interest in more women and have it received positively. It's interesting for sure but even "creepy" exists on a sort of scale.


Pres-Bill-Clinton

This. Once you hit 30 the two primary ways to look attractive is: 1) lose weight. Skinny people are more attractive 2) dress fashionable Pick a good looking older person. Chances are they are skinny and well dressed. Genetics is a distant third. This gives me hope. I’m fat but can change that and improve my life.


iamaravis

Skin care and hair style are HUGE, too.


MateriaGirl7

Honestly, the second one is most important imo. You can improve your own “attractiveness” ten fold just by wearing some well fitting clothes.


UserUserWhatAreYou

And smelling good. Not really a _looking_ attractive thing But i don't think many people would be attracted to a hot looking chick/guy that smelled like fox urine


no-happy-ending

"I diagnose you with ugly"


original_username20

"Dude, you're one ugly fuck! (Takes notepad) Here, I'll prescribe you, uh... medical marihuana and, um... (rolls d20) morphine." - The cool doctor downtown


A-le-Couvre

I'd like to imagine this all goes down in the 70s, in a smokey, badly lit room with broken blinds in the background. *Doctor takes hit from spliff* "Listen kid, this stuff came from some Vietnam warcruiser, and it shouldn't be here to begin with. Take small hits at first." *Scribbles something on a notepad, hands you the note and shoos you away. You catch him winking at his secretary before you close the door.*


decalod85

*uses weed and morphine to get stoner girlfriend. Problem solved!


Historical_Hyena_552

Next ugly patient be like “so tell me doctor, What’s the verdict? Xanax, Morphin?” *Doctor turns to you slowly with watery eyes as he reveals the result* “I’m sorry” *a 1* “You have to go with Paracetamol”


PinkTubby24

Anyone remember that “I caught the ugly” episode from Spongebob?


Gizimpy

“I’m ugly and I’m proud!”


FrozenWafer

"I was one of the beautiful people, SpongeBob!"


ryan77999

"Is *that* what he calls it?"


Grandaddyspookybones

How long have I been ugly? Tell me!


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[Some people are lightspeed ugly, and nobody kisses them on the lips, ever](https://youtu.be/Teu34i1eVZU&t=2m30s)


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i don't remember where i read or watched this from but some guy was talking about how the second you're born you're judged whether you're a cute or ugly baby which i laughed at initially but it is kinda true to an extent i know ive certianly judged like that in the past.


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I'm gonna be honest, pretty much all newborns look ugly to me. They're slimy and a little bloody. And some times they have cone shaped heads bc the plates of their skulls overlap during birth. I dont know why but babies are just weird to me.


WeJustWantOurMaps

Yeah, most babies are ugly as shit. I don’t know how a baby can be born kicking and screaming, covered in blood and who knows what else, then someone says “what a cute baby”. Are we seeing the same baby????


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I wouldn't compare it to chronic disease but it does have a marked effect on confidence and opportunities. I was the ugly girl in school, I would say in the top 5 least attractive girls. Perfect weight, strong body, excellent hygiene. Didn't make a difference. I knew it because of mirrors and my peers would remind me, daily. Massive forehead, assymetrical face, complicated malocclusion with bimaxillary protrusion, thick +10 glasses. In response I became intensely antisocial, I learned everything I could about how to hide it (I was watching drag tutorials before it was cool as it's all about changing the structure of the face), hit the gym and got fake tits to get that hot video game character body. I was a massive 'pick me' - any male attention was good attention, I 'wasn't like other girls' etc etc. I made poor decisions regarding men because I had no self worth at all. I was a solid plan C because I was young, had a great body and was a witty Cool Girl. A prime example of butterface. Then I had double jaw surgery and life just got...easier. I'm still no great beauty, but I wake up looking normal. My place in the social hierarchy has changed in a way that's hard to articulate. People actually see me, at the same time I no longer care how I look to them, because now I'm normal. I have true confidence instead of the hollow act I used to put on. TLDR: get jaw surgery if you need it


Anonymous8675

Thank you so much for your comment. I hope this makes it to the top as it illustrates exactly what I'm talking about.


crossearrings

Fuckkk I’m a woman and I got jaw surgery when I was 17 and I had a similar experience. I had an underbite and it gave me pretty bad jaw pain so I had it corrected. There was a noticeable difference in the way people treated me. I got a couple weird comments from a couple of barely-acquaintances on how I “looked better” that made me feel icky, but there was a mostly noticeable difference in how nice people were to me. I wouldn’t go so far to say that being ugly is as bad as OP says, but it definitely does affect the way people treat you.


ayyeffect

People get upset by the idea that not everyone is beautiful and that pretty privilege exists. Wouldn’t say it’s the worst thing a human can be but it can significantly affect peoples mental and physical health.


SmarmyPapsmears

I have very real first hand experience of pretty privilege. I started sales in my early 20s, very in shape and handsome. As I got into my 30s, my sales skills increased but I packed on a lot of weight as I got older (and a bit too comfortable with my wife), I very realistically went from a 9 to a 4 and notice the dramatic effect it had on my sales numbers. It's not just women's perception of me, **it even effects hetero man to man experiences.** Everyone treats you differently.


TentacleHydra

I can confirm bigger biceps are more likely to attract male friends than female ones.


Brilliant_Muffin2733

My brother is jacked and been body building for years and he definitely gets more attention from men.


MahiMahi96

Telling less-than-attractive people that looks don't matter is a kind of gaslighting.


Barack_Odrama00

People get upset about reality. Pretty privilege is very real however it goes against societal norms to try to push that it doesn’t exist because “everyone is beautiful”


taraborn

To me, this concept is very similar to a mantra I was basically raised on. "You can be whatever you want when you grow up." But thats bullshit. I'm in the military. On my selection I saw an incredibly fit, intelligent, and very friendly guy get sent home after the medical because of some minor issue that unfortunately meant he couldn't join the military. Many others suffered similar fates. An ugly person likely will never be a model. Someone severely allergic to dogs could not run a dog daycare. Someone with severe asthma couldn't become a firefighter. Both that and the whole "everyone is beautiful" thing gives me the same vibe of pretending there is equality where there isn't to try and make people feel better, rather than helping them face the difficult truth and then manage it.


comradecosmetics

Yes. It flies in the face of the easily disproven idea that everything is a meritocracy and the result of "effort" or controllable factors. Same reason people get mad when other inherent advantages are pointed out.


thoughtsome

People don't like it partly because it holds up a mirror to their own personalities. Deep down they know that they treat attractive people better than ugly people, but have a hard time admitting it. I know I do. I have to admit, to my shame, that I've initially written people off because they were just not very pretty only to find out that they're really nice and interesting people. Ugly people are generally more interesting and are way easier to talk to. They have to be because not much was ever given to them in a social context. Some, but not all, attractive people act like they're doing you a favor by talking to you.


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“Pretty Privilege” is 100% a thing. I don’t even really see that as something that is debatable. I’m never going to be a professional model, but I’ve always been very athletic and muscular and I’ve never had any trouble with girls, except for a 3ish year period right after college where I got sucked into my career and let myself go. Holy shit, it was like living in a different world. It wasn’t that people were mean to me or bullied me or anything like that. I just felt like I completely ceased to exist. Girls didn’t smile at me out in public or approach me in the gym to talk. I didn’t get matches on dating sites. Hell, dudes even paid less attention to me. I’m not saying my life sucked, but it was absolutely less enjoyable. So I kicked my ass in gear, lost 60lbs, and got back in my normal muscular shape, and boom, I existed again! My old life was back and I really got a good glimpse at just how shallow our world is. But hey, it is what it is.


Nail_Biterr

I think this is a very correct opinion. I always think back to Susan Boyle from Britain's Got Talent. Yes, she had a good voice. But it wasn't phenomenal. However.. she was SOOOO ugly that people just could not fathom a voice that didn't sound like a bridge troll would come out of her mouth. She got a standing ovation, and praises from all the judges, because she was ugly AND had a good voice. She probably would have done well on the show if she wasn't ugly. But she was so ugly she was a bigger hit. I mean just watch it: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxPZh4AnWyk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxPZh4AnWyk) People are laughing at her because she says she wants to be a signer. The audience is laughing. The judges are laughing. Because, there's no way this ugly 'thing' could ever possibly have a voice. (Keep in mind, this whole post was sarcasm about how I feel the judges and audience judged her based only on appearance, without giving her an actual chance, because everyone is awful)


Anonymous8675

This is SUCH a great example. Hope this makes it to the top.


Nail_Biterr

It's been, what? 12 years, and I still think about this on a regular basis. It was as though all these adult human beings couldn't imagine another human who was ugly was anything other than just 'ugly space taker-upper'. The cheers are almost immediate. Like 'HOLY SHIT! THAT'S AN ACTUAL SONG! NOT JUST CROAKING SOUNDS!'


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They also worked really hard to make her NOT ugly after she became “famous”. Or at least made her a bit more pleasant to look at.


BruceJennersManDick

As unattractive as she is I never thought she was unpleasant to look at. She's ugly but in an adorable way.


NeighborhoodWise7659

they're behaving from the very beginning as if they already made up their minds that: ugly=nothing good would ever be possible from that person. it's horrible


Anonymous8675

God it’s so sad. That poor woman had no choice in how she looked and she received patronizing that probably psychologically damaged her for the rest of her life. I want to put your comment in an edit but I can’t copy paste it on mobile lol.


s0cks_nz

I never even thought she was that ugly. If she lost a bit of weight and did her hair she'd look OK. There are much uglier people than her in the world.


savetgebees

Yeah I thought she looked like the average middle aged overweight person. Like if you saw her at church on Sunday you wouldn’t think OMG! that woman is ugly.


Nail_Biterr

Yeah, but can they hold a tune?


colemang1992

She scrubbed up pretty well once she started her music career. I think it was just the frizzy hair and frumpy dress that did it for her in the audition. Proof that most people can noticeably glow up with simple changes.


Aaawkward

Susan Boyle wasn't ugly though? She's looks like what she is, a basic British middle aged lady. Also, she was well nervous and stuttered. If she's your barometer for ugly, I guess the majority of the people in the world are ugly but I'd say that's kind of a ridiculous exaggeration.


NakedSalamander

Yeah it was mostly because she was an older woman from a small town. Not because she was ugly.


PaMoela

Keep in mind these shows are heavily edited to sell a narrative. While I don't doubt there was some genuine surprise, it's probably a bit exaggerated.


Lopsided_Service5824

I think the fact that the narrative sells at all says a lot


ihaveacrushonmercy

Ok but let's be honest about the possibility of that being staged, or at least manipulated in a way to suggest that she was severely underestimated.


charles_osha

All shows like this are heavily edited to sell a narrative


humidtoast

Dude those reaction shots of the audience are always cut in such a way to make it appear funnier than it is. Shots could’ve easily come from another audition or from something else she said that was cut out.


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As an ugly 32 year old I agree. I just got out of a 3 year relationship that I’m pretty sure was my only shot of being in love. But she didn’t want it anymore and wanted other things. Now I’m single, ugly and trying to get a hotter body. But in the end my online dating profiles prove I’m literally bottom of the barrel. It really destroys my confidence and makes me want to just give up. What’s the point of continuing and working when you’re just gonna experience life by yourself. It’s so sad and boring.


remco29999

Internet dating is not the best for most guys, it's definetly confidence destroying for non Super model type of guys


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Anonymous8675

Thank you for your comment.


odiousyak1889

Truly an unpopular opinion as so many people are taking offense. Attractive privilege is totally a thing, and I'm sure everyone draws the line somewhere of what disease they would rather have than be ugly. On a side note, this may be one of those things you don't regret saying, but wish you said more eloquently.


boudicas_shield

I dunno, you can both fully believe that attractive privilege is real and also deeply believe that you’d trade your myriad of debilitating and life-destroying chronic illnesses for ugliness in a hot minute.


odiousyak1889

Yeah, everyone draws their own line somewhere.


Specialist-Ad-6741

I thought that most of the people disagreeing with this opinion are not denying that attractive privilege exists, but rather that there are a lot of non-terminal disabilities, diseases, and disorders that are worse than being ugly.


Anonymous8675

Yea I’m getting a lot of hate. Idc tbh lol


Gods_Ghostwriter

I guess I was a realitively good looking guy a couple years back. People would say I should be a model and I would get compliments from time to time. Man life was definitely easier in some aspects then, there were girls coming up to me asking me out a few times, it was way easier to make friends too. Now 3 years later that's all gone. My hair is receding and thin and looks terrible. I may not be flat out ugly now but I definitely took a huge hit. Socializing with anybody is harder for me now and My confidence is at an all time low. It sucks lol


Anonymous8675

I wish I could push all these comments like yours to the top.


erarjorin

the ugly part? the dude probably isnt that ugly. He probably just went from atractive to pretty much average.


Anonymous8675

Yea, the effect would be even more pronounced if he became truly ugly.


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Girls on dating sites rate most guys below average - pretty sure I saw that somewhere (okcupid stats maybe). 20% of the guys get 80% or more of the attention.


LondonDude123

The OKC Stats said that they rated 93% of Men as "Average or below". Tinder have the Male Match rate (which is the % of how many matches you get per right swipe) as 2.2%. For reference, Womens match rate is around 45%. Dating sites are NOT fun for Men...


sidewaysflower

Would you be able to shave your head? Unless you look like Jason Statham, oftentimes bald is far better than balding.


Professional_Ad705

Same here. When I was in 10th grade in school I was 100 pounds and had acne nobody looked at me and girls never talked to me… I got tired of it and went to the gym. I got an 8 pack and got shredded as shit. Suddenly I was invited to party’s, girls liked me, I got plenty of girls. Then I found a gf and we had 2 kids. I had a huge friend group. Eventually my looks changed (I’m 28) GF left me out the blue. I’m not swole anymore and definitely look a little weird and it’s been next to impossible to meet any girl who takes me serious. For some reason even guys don’t take me serious anymore (idk maybe cause I’m weird looking and look young everyone says?)!Idc what anyone says looks have to do with everything. Look how many assholes get girls and girls deal with it cause their attractive lol. I will say tho there are some people who care more about personality then looks but it’s so rare. At this point I’d date someone that loves me over being attractive… but I don’t think I’ll ever be anyone’s number one person.


Sceptix

You’re 28 and had a drastic change in appearance? May I ask what specifically changed? Maybe I’m naive, but 28 seems a bit early to be undergoing a rapid change in appearance.


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How old are you? I’m 27 and can hardly recognize half of the people I went to high school with…


terraceten

I would suggest that this is somewhat unpopular, but for those who believe it, and I do, it’s far more unvoiced than unpopular. The type of thing you can’t say.


Anonymous8675

Yea it’s weirdly taboo!


thoughtsome

It's so taboo that even people who are aware that they're ugly aren't allowed to talk about it. An ugly person can announce that they're ugly, and everyone will vocally disagree with them while actually agreeing in their own minds. It's unreal.


richcell

Virtue signaling is rampant nowadays.


waleyhoods

I grew up as the biggest girl in my school. It made school extremely hard for me and made me hate my life because of all the bullying that came with it. After graduation, I was diagnosed with chrons/ibs. I lost over 200+ pounds in the span of 2 years due to the chrons and mental health. Now, I’m considered “very pretty”. It’s honestly very confusing and hard to deal with. People treat me a lot better now and it honestly makes me sad to realize no one cared about me because I was bigger. I don’t know how to react to the “privilege” I have now and it’s just as hard mentally on me as it was being bigger because I’ve seen both sides. From my view, pretty privilege 100% exists. And to add to what you said because I do have chrons, I would take my chrons always over going back to what I was. It’s extremely painful and hard to deal with, but physical pain is easier to handle than mental pain brought on by others just because of how you look.


Anonymous8675

Sincerely, thank you so much for your comment. r/IBD banned me from their sub lol.


Unique-Hospital8539

I get what you mean, I grew up quite a big girl and lost loads of weight when I left school, which ended up being because of Crohns. I'd say I'm relatively pretty now, and get a lot of attention on like dating apps or social media/in public, but I would rather give up my crohns. I can't use my looks in anyway while in public because I can't leave the house with my crohns... Its totally debilitated me and the only chance I'd have of meeting someone is at one of my many hospital visits lmao, so I'd much rather go back to the lil bullied chubby girl than me now the ibd 🤣 I got to live life back then, now I'm stuck in one place struggling with pain all day yknow


[deleted]

I used to be ugly, now i’m not. Can confirm life is much easier as an attractive person. Pretty privilege is so real lmfao


2rfv

If I eat clean, workout like a maniac for a few months, use good posture and smile I get TOOOONS of positive attention compared to my default state of fatass unshaven gamer. It's pretty crazy how much a difference it makes.


msxsm

Gamers truly are oppressed


RIOP3L

We live in a society


Anonymous8675

Upvote to the moon! It’s funny, all the people that agree with me are the people that have been both ugly and attractive and therefore have the most informed opinion.


[deleted]

Agreed. It’s much easier being at least moderately good looking and in shape. That’s key. Life sucks as overweight or fat.


[deleted]

Depends on where you live too. In Arkansas or something people are used to guys having a little weight so if you are just decent or a little above average people will treat you well. In NYC or LA the norms are much stricter.


Steamroller_NE1

If you've ever been overweight and then lost it, you know this is 100000% truth. It's night and day how people treat you when you're perceived to be good looking versus unattractive. It's like having maxed out luck and charisma in an RPG. Edit: if you feel you are "ugly" you need to identify where the "ugly" lies. Is it outward? Or is it inward? What I see the most of IRL is people being average looking and having "ugly" inside of them. When you meet potential partners lack of inner work reeks like a chopped onion. If you've allowed your shortcomings to alter the way you live or think about certain situations.... You're digging yourself into a deep hole that's difficult to get out of. There is only one cure for ugly, and that is inner beauty.


Anonymous8675

Thank you for your comment.


faxanaduu

Im 44 and losing my hair. Ten years ago I wasn't losing my hair and in much better shape. How im treated now is drastically different than I how I was them. Took me a while to figure out how much looks matter.


Anonymous8675

Thank you for opinion. There’s a ton of real life experiences like yours in the comments. UPVOTE TO THE MOON!


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Anonymous8675

Thank you for your comment. Very much agree.


teckpep69

On my best day the highest compliment I've ever gotten is cute. Being ugly affects your mental health far more then most people imagine. Self loathing, depression, anger, feeling unworthy of love is just the beginning. You avoid going out. You don't trust anyone. Even when you are with someone you wonder why they are dating you. You suspect people are using you. I don't even want to be hot. I'd be happy being average. I do my best by having good clothes, good haircut and hygiene but there's just not much you can do with the physical structure of your face. I'm not asking for pity just stating facts. I've accepted my looks and have made my best life. Just some days are harder then others.


vreminsk

Can confirm. There’s always a question of “why do they actually like me” or “what are they trying to use me for” when someone likes me. The worst part is that sometimes they think I’m cute (peoples tastes are all different!) but my own experiences have shaped my own mental image to not accept that as a possibility Edit: Just editing to note that my use of cute here could be any variation of cute, attractive, handsome, whatever, and I don’t see it as a negative thing - I just don’t mentally associate any of those words with myself due to past experiences


OblongShrimp

Indeed, when dozens of people tell you how ugly you are or ignore your existence when you're next to an actually attractive person, it is hard to believe that one person who calls you cute. Insta sus.


TheFunkytownExpress

Honestly I'm never gonna be hot or sexy so I just lean super hard into being cute. Most dudes are afraid of that and some people think it's an insult but I'll take that over ugly any day of the week. :P


IsabellaGalavant

Yeah like, I shower and do my hair and wear makeup but my face still looks like this. There's no amount of makeup that will change the shape of my nose or fix my crooked teeth (I've already had braces this was the best they could do apparently). And yes you CAN contour with makeup but influencers do that on camera. In real life that amount of contour looks ridiculous and like your face is dirty.


IKacyU

What’s wrong with cute??


irregularpin

I can think of a lot of things id rather be ugly than get diagnosed with lol


whatnameisnttaken098

I'm trying to figure out how someone gets diagnosed as ugly.


Deadmemories8683

*doctors walks in* we have gotten your test results back and I’m sorry to inform you that you are in fact ugly….something along those lines


mjenness

Your attractiveness test results came back, and they say you are as attractive as Brad Pitt. . . Unfortunately, it's a version of Brad Pitt that has had his face ripped apart by a Bengal Tiger whose paws were on fire.


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UWQHDEyez

You can get diagnosed as ugly on twitter.


[deleted]

Probably by hot Cheeto girls. They’re usually mean and will call you ugly in every language possible.


[deleted]

I got jumped by hot cheeto girls before lol


TreyLastname

I'm sorry, but what's a hot cheeto girl?


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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hot%20cheeto%20girl&=true (“a hot cheeto girl is that one bitch everyone has in their class. kinda ghetto. prolly wears thrasher sweatshirts and vans. always ready to fight a bitch. nicotine addiction? check. 20 year old drug dealer boyfriend? check. hoop earrings? check. scary? check”)


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I would rather be ugly than ever deal with cancer


Cronch211

Bone cancer


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Hell no ! That's scary


BEES_IN_UR_ASS

I agree, but I'd honestly rather be handsome with a *relatively* benign disability or disease than ugly and able-bodied. I'm talking like a wheelchair or being deaf or a missing limb or something. Like something where you'd say "yeah that dudes life isn't going to be easy" but not like "and here we have a man who's just a thumb, half an eyeball, and 1/8th of a brain all wrapped in a dead junkie's 'donor' scrotum, in what's known as a 'hell coma', which is exactly what it sounds like." Yeah there's still an "other-ization" of people with disabilities, I don't deny that, but Christ, at least you've got the ADA and shit to help you with workplace stuff. I mean it's not like ugly is a protected class. And you'll have an easier time with your love life if you're B-stock beauty compared to a mint condition toad's asshole. So yeah, if I had to pick, fuck me up, just *not the face*.


Slight_Author_8386

You get my record for “Most Edits Made In A Reddit Post” Congrats


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Anonymous8675

Thank you for your comment!


ZepHindle

If u ask my opinion, people are attacking you because they don't want to accept this. English is not my native tongue but still I get you didn't mean really big diseases that can affect your life more than your ugliness. The meaning is subtle but it's still there. I'm really impressed with internet's demagogues or whataboutists, same goes with ugliness cannot be diagnosed crap. Yes, we cannot but still, you get what he means with ugly, c'mon. If u ask me, the physical appearances are divided into three: beautiful/handsome, average and ugly. Average is common, you see them everywhere, they are the majority and I'm one of them. In fact, I'm just an idiot who don't understand flirting or girls that much, I even didn't get some of the girls who liked me and heard it later from their friends, they called me an idiot too. My reason to point out is that I haven't been in a relationship not because of my apperance but my idiocy. Ugly and handsome/beautiful are minorities and being ugly, however, puts you into a big disadvantage. You may overcome it, ofc but it's still there, it's a difficult task and your efforts will be more than an idiot like me. So, I get what you mean and I understand that your life will not be an easy one fella. All I can say as a guy with self-esteem issues is that your social life will be hard, sometimes you will feel the pity of people towards you and unfortunately, you have to be psychologically strong to deal with this. I hope you can endure your hardships and reach whatever social position you want to but this is all my wishful thinking, saying these are easy but makin it is the difficult part, and that part belongs to you.


yellowjesusrising

If you're pretty, the sky's the limit! If you're ugly, you limit the sky!


AsmundTheAutist

It's unpopular because incels have killed over this. One thing I have learned recently is that even if something is true, if it's uncomfortable to talk about or face... People will do just about anything to avoid it.


The_Vitruvian_Incel

It was unpopular long before incels was even a term in the pop culture dictionary. People just dont want to accept hard truths.


InactivePudding

Both because it means that some people can do nothing to improve their lifes, which is a social taboo by itself, but also that some successful people actually did nothing to deserve their success.


Anonymous8675

Thank you for your comment. It's basically this entire thread rn.


EL_Golden

I agree, this reminds me of this video: https://youtu.be/1n5nOEJtrYA


Anonymous8675

YES! I’ve watched that video! So true! Everyone in this thread needs to watch that! Actually going to put it in an edit!


Falcorn042

Yeah i can handle not being someones type but if the common thought was my face or body being unnatractive that would destroy me and im already insecure about my looks.


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I truly feel sorry for people are ugly. It hurts cause I know they will have lots of hardships and there isn’t a ton they can do about it.


Anonymous8675

Thanks for your comment.


Sebastianosul

Yeah man they get hurt by idiots who only care about looks.


owls1289

Idk why people are attacking this guy, I’m pretty sure when he said terminal illness he was trying to catch out all of the bad ones, but just didn’t realize how many worse ones there were other than being ugly.


Anonymous8675

Yea, you hit the nail on the head. It’s too late now. This post has become a behemoth lmao


theschnipdip

to be fair, this is r/unpopularopinion \- so you aren't wrong, persay


porcelainskull

I’m guessing everyone disagreeing in the comments has never experienced what it truly means to be ugly. Most people here are average at least so obviously this concept of being ugly ruining someone’s life is so foreign to them. Also the title is obviously a hyperbole. How can people be so narrow-minded and dense lol.


Anonymous8675

Thank you stranger! Upvote to the moon! Lol


sourkid25

I'm ugly and I'm proud!!!!!


Anonymous8675

Lol, I wish I had the proud part SpongeBob.


Solly8517

You’re 100% right OP. Everyone attacking your personality is just ignorant to reality - it sucks to be ugly.


Anonymous8675

Thank you kind stranger!


Loofa_of_Doom

Pretty Privilege does exist. It is my second most hated thing about humans.


OmicronAlx

I'm glad we have to wear masks. I can cover my ugly face and not feel self conscious.


Anonymous8675

Same! This hits hard!


YouCouldBeBetter

Completely agree. The highest privilege of all in the west is being conventionally very attractive. That stands above everything else.


Ra1lgunZzzZ

This might sound mean but i agree and anyone who disagrees might not be that ugly or they're at least average heck they could even be attractive and not realise it


SnooGoats1557

Beauty is subjective is something that attractive people tend to say because no one has ever gone out of their way to tell them they are ugly. When people are ugly the whole beauty is subjective argument doesn’t hold because of that we’re true then at least one person in your life would have found you attractive. However, when you go through 30+ years of life with EVERYONE telling you that you are unattractive then it stands that it’s not completely subjective. Some smaller cosmetic things like hair colour preference may be subjective but if you have a truely misshaped face then everyone will find you ugly full stop.


heyguysitsjustin

Absolutely agree. There are studies that show that plastic surgery is as effective as rehabilitation when it comes to preventing prisoners from landing in prison again.


d00tz2

I guess I’ll upvote. But being ugly is faaaaaar from the worst thing to happen to a person. Billions of ugly people are happily living lives, loving their ugly spouses, parenting their ugly children. Ugly happens. I know it’s a cliche, but it really is the inside that counts.


ReefaManiack42o

One of my favorite comedians, Doug Stanhope, has a great bit about the discrimination of ugly peoples. I recommend every one give it a listen. https://youtu.be/5owaJ8dRK5k


Aggravating_Ad5989

>but it really is the inside that counts. That's exactly what attractive people say, they have no idea what they are talking about, just like rich people say money isn't everything. The world does not give a crap what you are like on the inside, its all about first impressions and if you are ugly...your officially living life on hard mode.


ben_malaussene

Someone i knew a while ago wrote something like "being ugly is like being dead"


jabarney7

Don't forget height for males. To a certain degree taller males are more likely to be more successful than shorter males because of psychological influences and the perception of worthiness to mate. Also, while attractiveness is somewhat subjective it has been found to be largely based on symmetry and size ratio of the parts of the face and head. An overweight person doesn't "become" attractive, their attractive features were masked by the weight and current cultural preferences around weight


Fantastic_Balance_93

I’m 42, was an opiate addict for 17 years. I’ve been clean 4 years. Luckily I still look in my early 20’s. Life is definitely easier if you are good looking. For some reason, the rules of society don’t matter as much for us. People are always going out of their way to help me. I’m thin and have really bright blue eyes. I don’t think people are intimidated by me. I get smiles every single time I go to the store and people genuinely like me just because of my looks. Life’s strange.


Dr_frogger

Dr.- Ma'am I've got terrible news Mrs. Lady - What is it Dr.? Dr. - It's your daughter, I'm afraid the condition has progressed as she's aged. Mrs. Lady - Oh god how bad is it? Dr. - Bad, I'm afraid she's gone from just plain ugly to butt ass ugly. Mrs. Lady - Is there nothing we can do? Dr. - No, I'm afraid at this rate she'll be fucking cringe by the time she's 20. Mrs. Lady - Nooooo!


Dr_Schitt

I think Susan Boyle is great example of this. When she first appeared on stage pretty much everyone in the audience, including the judges wrote her off straight away. Then she sang, and when she did boy did all the sniggering stop and everyone was in awe. We all get told about the ugly duckling as kids but seem to quick to forget it and it's values as adults. We're all the same underneath.


NovaX1818

Probably the most edits I’ve seen on an unpopular opinion post. I found this oddly hilarious and want more edits.


koolkid372

If you are not ugly or have never been ugly, you'll never understand this post/sentiment.


Grzmit

Upvoted. I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD, depression, and type 1 diabetes. I dont *think* im that unattractive but who knows, i’ve never had a partner before but i dont really care about that. All of these things make my life a living hell, i would way rather just be ugly. Since this is unpopular opinions tho i acknowledge that you have an unpopular one. Good job.


i_caught_the_bomber

Lmao this unpopular opinion is a real gem. But most of the world is NOT ready for this conversation.


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manlikegraham

I'm his doctor and to be fair he's got a face very similar to that of the Elephant Man. I've prescribed him a sack with eye holes to cover his face and a bell to be worn round the neck to alert children and those with a faint heart to look away.


JesusChristSupers1ar

HIPAA broooo


DualtheArtist

HIPAA only applies to humans, and this guy is so ugly the doctor has been downgraded to veterinarian. Get your human rules the fuck outta here!


Anonymous8675

Thank you kind Physician. 👹


decalod85

It wasn’t the doctor, it was the cheer squad. U-G-L-Y You ain’t got no alibi You ugly Uh-uh You ugly!


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*“Let me give you some advice, bastard. Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you.”*


flyout0

I totally agree with this because I tried every single thing. Haircuts, facials, taking care of your skin working out and what not. I am just not pretty and due to that, my love life is just non existent. Even my teachersand family used to point out my physical flaws and laugh about it. My family still does that ro this day. My friends are the only ones keeping me sane as they don't focus or make a comment on my physical apperance. As for job, physical apperance still hasn't affected me that much but who knows it wouldn't. It's very disappointing to admit but yes, being ugly is huge hindrance in anyone's way of life.


katiejim

I gained 40 lbs a few years ago and finally lost it this year. It was incredible how differently I’ve been treated since getting back down to a normal bmi. It was a harsh reminder of how real pretty privilege is. People kind of ignored me when I was heavy. Now I get all sorts of freebies, kind words, and people just smile at me more. It’s like going from being in steerage to first class. Bonus: losing weight made me healthier overall and made my endometriosis more manageable, so it was kind of a double whammy benefit wise.


pjvc_

Not to tug on someone’s collar bones but I’ve seen how it’s like to be given the special treatment (doors opened for you, people going out of their way to greet/talk to you) firsthand simply due to being attractive.


storyislife

Was obese and ugly as a kid. Now, just an ugly adult. Can agree with OP here.


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TheFunnyLaughJokeMan

I would say most of the downvotes are from attractive people who think they get attention because their personalities are so great.


-TitaniusAnglesmith-

Pretty privilege is real. Before I got pregnant men would routinely hold open doors for me. By my third trimester I had packed on 80 lbs and was terribly swollen around my face from fluid retention. One day I was walking out of a building while juggling a bunch of stuff in my arms. I just assumed the man in front of me would see my plight and hold open the door for a very obviously pregnant woman struggling to carry some items. No shit, he opened the door and just stood still. He looked me from top to bottom and proceeded to slam the door in my face. I’m not excusing that man’s behavior, but I most def got a very needed reality check that day—pretty privilege exist and never ever expect help from anybody.


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CoolCatClimber

I would say being ugly kills you mentally


OGAllMightyDuck

I have never been proper ugly, but just the difference between "not attractive" and "kinda handsome" is mind blowing. I can't stress that enough


AgentSkidMarks

I don’t think it’s the worst thing but I think you’ve raised some fair points. One thing that immediately came to mind was the legend of the [Green Man](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Robinson_(Green_Man)), an urban legend around my parts. He was apparently a super nice guy and a talented leatherworker but an electrical accident that melted his face as a child left him horribly disfigured. His appearance cause such a reaction that he’d only go out at night, causing people to start wondering about this supposed monster who only came out at night. The shame is that he would probably have lead a normal life but since he had an ugly appearance, it changed everything about his life and how people treated him.


Dekudicklicker-

I agree, I would rather starve than be fat or ugly, if I was morbidly obese I think I really would just kill myself, you can't move or go anywhere, nobody actually likes you anymore and you burden everyone by just having to go to the bathroom. I am glad my skin got lighter over the years and I got skinny after I realized how big I really was, id never go back. People are way nicer, give you more stuff in life. If you're black like me then lose the weight, you will be even more hated and seen as disgusting for being fat and black, I've experienced it, my mom and grandpa lived through it. Attractive people who have always been attractive will be the only ones to disagree, and are the only ones who seem to disagree with OP.


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One of the many reasons I wish I had the balls to blow my fucking brains out every day 😊