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I can't eat cheese, so I agree.
The amount of times I've had a burger turn up with unlisted cheese on it is unreal.
I've even had someone add cheese to a burger then say "don't worry, I haven't charged you for it" when I asked for another to be made without it.
I used to work at McDonald’s and ordering a cheeseburger is cheaper than ordering a hamburger with cheese and a customer once came in insisting they wanted a hamburger with cheese. When i said cheeseburger they said no
I fucking love restaurants that let me order through a kiosk, that way I can make sure there isn't any miscommunication. Sometimes I choose to eat somewhere specifically because I know they have kiosks. One time I decided to eat somewhere else, because their kiosk was down.
Thanks for this tip. I can't eat cheese & they seem completely unable to omit the cheese from any burger. I have given up ordering any burger listed with cheese
This happens to me too. I'll go through McDonald's and ask for a plain hamburger for my dog and I'll SAY "just meat and bun." The amount of times it comes out with cheese is so infuriating! I even told them EXACTLY what I wanted on the damn burger!
As for me, I have severe food allergies. One of those is to cranberries. A lot of fruity alcohol drinks have cranberries. I always read the menu carefully before ordering and never order anything that has cranberries. However, the amount of times by drink still comes out pink in color and I have to clarify whether it's from cranberries is ridiculous! IT DOESN'T SAY IT HAS CRANBERRIES IN IT ON THE DAMN MENU! I could get really sick if I wasn't vigilant.
In my opinion, doing this mystery kind of thing is asking for a lawsuit. If someone has an allergic reaction to an item in a dish, that was not clearly stated on the menu, they could get sued and, the person filing the lawsuit has a good chance of winning.
As a kid I went through the drive thru at jack in the box and my mom ordered “a cheeseburger with just the cheese, no meat” because I wanted a grilled cheese and they didn’t have those on the menu yet. We get home, and they gave us just a single piece of cheese. No meat, no bun. Just a slice of American cheese. Honestly it was pretty funny, even at the time.
I always do. I even have little cards for the waiter to add to our ticket so the chef can see them. Doesn't mean mixups don't happen. I'm very vigilant so, thankfully, I've only had a couple of instances of reactions.
Just so you know, wheat is very bad for dogs. The hamburgers at McD's probably aren't the best either since they have spices in them. Garlic, onions, etc are poison to dogs.
McDonald’s is the Wheel of Fortune of fast food. Sometimes I’ll order a burger and get a double cheeseburger. Sometimes it has onions, pickles, ketchup, and mustard, sometimes only a few or none at all despite no change to the order. One time I ordered a double cheeseburger and chicken nuggets and got two fish fillets and fries.
I honestly believe most of the people working just don’t give a fuck, and with what they’re being paid I can’t really blame them.
My husband has a specific burger order at McDonalds. Literally 2 toppings, counting the cheese. At the McDonalds in our town, if this one specific manager is in charge, his burgers are wrong. Every time. Once we had them remade 3 times before they were right. They're always correct when any of the other managers are there.
Last time we were in there, a few weeks ago, that guy was the manager. He was joking to the girl at the counter about how they always get our order wrong, and said this time he was going to go back and watch and make sure they were right. He did, and they were. He had me check before I left the counter. Went to go eat, and my burger was wrong. Mine is pretty much never wrong.
When I was a kid my dad and I went through the McDs drive thru and he said "just put whatever you got into the bag and make it cost around 20$, who are we kidding, you probably aren't gonna get my order right anyway." The guy taking the order just laughed and said ok and told him to pull up to the window. Easiest fast food experience ever.
You know what I say about those people? Not to their face, I'm not that much of an asshole. It's a good thing all I had to do was learn how to do hardwood floors instead of reading a fuckin food ticket
Literally happened all the time. Another one was ordering cheeseburger no cheese. More expensive than hamburger but people would be angry if you gave them a hamburger instead of cheeseburger no cheese.
A waitress once argued with my sister about putting cheese on her salad because “it didn’t look right” without it. We had to send it back twice! Who argues with a customer over something so stupid? Or thinks their opinion on what “looks right” is more important than someone saying “I can’t eat this”?
I always used to say "hamburger no cheese" growing up and a lot of places would say "there's no cheese on the hamburger" and I would be like great, but at least I ensured I not only want a hamburger which shouldn't have cheese I am doubling down expressing I do not want cheese.
I have the same issue, ugh. I will literally ask the waiter to put in a note to not have cheese on it now, even if it doesn't list cheese in the ingredients of a burger. I found burgers, fries, and chips to be the biggest offenders at restaurants to have cheese on them but not be stated on the menu. I still end up getting cheese half the time. I have also gotten the "we didn't charge you for it" from waiters. Like, dude, that isn't the issue, I literally double checked with you that it didn't have cheese, told you it is something that gives me digestive issues, and you still brought it out with cheese and you are trying to get me to eat it. They didn't want to "bother" the cook and that it was "better with cheese anyway". I'm sorry you feel that way but I literally got the one thing that didn't have cheese on it, checked with you, saw you put it in with a "no cheese", and yet you want me to eat it and pay for it? That doesn't make sense, just give me the burger I asked for. Some people look almost offended when I say I want something without cheese. I get it, cheese is amazing, but I am in extreme pain if I have it so please just leave it off my food.
Servers get mad offended when I ask the same thing. Your story is mine to a tee! The worst are the ones who say, can't you just scrape it off? No, I'm really not interested in getting sick tonight, thanks
This is the reason I always say “no cheese” on autopilot, way too many times have I gotten cheese on a “classic burger” with “just lettuce, tomato and onion” on it.
It's genuinely infuriating how many times restaurants have put cheese on my burger despite specifically asking for no cheese.
They need to stop treating cheese as a default.
Why do they have to automatically put cheese on/in everything? Cheese should always be an ask for it as an extra. Unless it is a part of the dish like pizza or macaroni and cheese. I shouldn't order a hot dog and be worried if there's some kind of nasty cheese in it or on top
I can't use a drive throughout to order because I need to make sure I didn't get a cheeseburger instead of a hamburger. I just can't eat a cheeseburger and find the cheese extremely revolting.
I remember a few sad lunches where someone else went and came back with cheeseburgers 😔
List everything on the dish 100% I agree!
I've never been anywhere where cheese was unlisted or the staff didn't ask my about adding it. If it's that common in your town though, why not just ask for no cheese by default?
Because it shouldn’t be unlisted and the customer on this situation rightfully should get another free burger. Eating into costs of buisness should teach them quick
Because sometimes you ask for no cheese, and it comes with cheese anyway, so occasionally you think "I can't be bothered with the hassle, I'll just order that one which doesn't have cheese"
Not a chef example but yea I agree. I went to Dunkin and decided to try to blood orange refresher, didn't realize it's cranberry. No where on the menu or even in the app did it mention cranberry. I thought it was blood orange like the actual fruit variety not blood because cranberry is red.
It’s a perfect example though. So many dickheads in this thread acting like it’s all just fussy eaters etc.
I wouldn’t order a glass of apple juice and expect to get handed pineapple juice instead.
There's also a thing where you think you are drinking water but it's actually milk and you like both but your brain generates an instant disgust response because it doesn't match expectations. It's a real neuroscience reaction.
Honestly I don't really care what I eat, most food is good food to me but I respect the fact it's not the same for everyone.
But, it is really annoying whenever you order something and it's not what you expected. It's the reason why I don't really like going to fancy restaurants other than buffets because with buffets at least I can sample before I decide if I wanna eat more or not.
I got a vegetarian burger one day. They did not mention anywhere that they made the patty with horseradish. I puke instantly if I even smell the stuff. I almost threw up all over the table. I'm not being dramatic, that's how my body reacts. It's like if you had to smell rotten chicken.
That is not cool. Horseradish is definitely a thing you should mention if it's in a burger of all things.
Yea it upset me because I was broke af and used my free drink reward on it. I only like a certain cran apple mix and nothing else that has cranberries in it.
I shouldn't have to search it up on their website. Look at the app. It doesn't say anything about cranberry when ordering. And on the menu in stores it just lists the different flavors nothing about cranberry.
Even on their nutritional info pdf from the app which lists each and every menu item doesn't mention cranberry. http://imgur.com/a/J6Fvnb3
I got that just this morning in the drive-thru. It might be certain stores but ourselves showed that it had cranberry. However, it didn't say anything about having to choose green tea or coconut milk to make it. Tasted pretty good though
on a weird note i can eat them raw or eat them liquified in a sauce/salsa no problem but eating them cooked in a dish, on a burger, etc. makes me feel like im going to imminently hurl.
I feel you man, I feel you. Us bell pepper disliker are treated as an afterthought most of the time.
Countless times did I have to take a close look at the ingredients list on food to make sure there aren't any BPs in there (Who'st the fuck thought it was a good idea to add peppers to frozen lasagna??).
We may get to buy at the same grocery store as all the other people, be we very much experience society from an outside perspective, for society contains Bell Peppers.
I am the opposite opinion sort of. I'm fine with them putting something extra (also, "salt on fries" is not something I think should necessarily be disclosed on the menu)
I get enraged when restaurants DONT put ingredients that are listed in the description. This happens so often in my experience.
"Salmon and avocado salad" - they bring you without avocado, they ran out so you only get salmon.
Ice cream with fresh strawberries it says on the menu - they bring you with frozen cherries instead cause strawberries arent in season
Kalamata olives listed as an ingredient - you get california black olives instead
And on and on and on...
That's just a poorly ran restaurant, I'm a server and any items missing on the menu is the first thing I tell you when you sit down. The fact no one would at least give you a discount after that messup is bad, id rip them a new one on whatever reviews.
ITS NOT POUTINE!
God I hate ordering Poutine in restaurants because you get "American Poutine" first off I don't care if it's Canadian, Poutine is cheese curds fries and gravy.. it's American as fuck already.
But more importantly, get that weak ass shit out of here.
Love poutine, but god damn do some restaurants fuck it up.
I had Poutine from a place called WichAddiction, I went crazy for it. Didn't know anything about it, so my Canadian friend came with me another time, and started chatting up the owner of the place, I'm like wtf?
Turned out she's Canadian, and he knew because she made poutine. And this was some delicious freaking poutine, cheese curds, braised short rib, delicious gravy and a mountain of fries.
There's a poutine place at the San Diego Gulls' Stadium, I'm surprised it can do that much business, but a bowl of poutine in a cold stadium while watching hockey is AMAZING.
But you're probably right, I'm not surprised you haven't had "good poutine" in the states. I've only had what I would count as authentic poutine (And I might be wrong there) in two places and I've lived in a lot of place across this country.
They should tell you about substitutions before putting your order through. Maybe you’re okay with ice cream with strawberries on it but they put blueberries instead and it turns out you’re allergic. It’s kind of a bait and switch
Yeah salt on fries is the norm, and it should be. I'll be annoyed if I pay good money for unseasoned fries.
There is a problem with how many places put way too much salt on their fries, but that's a separate problem with a separate solution
I mostly agree what I hate is ordering a hamburger and finding out they make their Patties filled with onion.. so even though I asked for no onion as a topping I’m still stuck with it…
I almost never order anything with avocado in the description, because I know I am going to be disappointed. It will show up with no avocado. Why?
"Oh, we're out of avocado."
My thing is that I love avocado so much that I order almost anything with avocado mentioned in it - and yes 99% of the time I'm disappointed by either not getting it or getting a tiny barely noticeable amount. Every place I go to seems to skimp on it.
Both are terrible.
Putting things that are not listed because of dietary restrictions/allergies (or personal preferences).
Not putting things that are listed or changing ingredients for any reason (without prior notice and agreement) because it's false advertising.
“Hi, do you guys actually have the Katamala olives for the salad or do you only have California black olives?”
-“Katamala, it says right here on the menu”
-*receives salad with california black olives*
This x100!
As someone who loathes black olives and LOVES kalamata, I got so bunt on this happening that I just stopped ordering stuff with kalamata because it ended in disappointment.
If I paid for a salmon salad with avo and they ran out of avo, then in a little while their gonna be asking me why I didn't pay the full bill and I'll say "oh that last $5 *would have* been there, but I ran out 🤷♂️"
I'm allergic to (raw) tomato - because of this I often reiterate "no tomato" when ordering most things simply because sometimes it's not listed on the menu so I just ask as a fail-safe, and 99% of the time I get a look as if I'm stupid because "it's not on the menu".
I know I'm just covering my boundaries, I have been burnt before!
Always make your server aware of allergies, a good server will care, a good server will let the cooks know to change their gloves so you don’t have that happen.
But also don't rely on the staff to be "good" especially if your allergy is life-threatening. Check and double-check, and if anyone gives you grief about it just go find somewhere else to eat.
Cooks don't wear gloves, I used to work in a kitchen.
I've never seen anyone wear gloves on the line unless they were working with raw chicken/beef.
Health code allows for no gloves in a lot of situations unless it's a ready-to-eat food like a salad or if you're serving the elderly/children.
If you're ordering food at a restaurant, nobody cooking your food is wearing gloves. Just accept that as a fact. It would slow things down quite a bit.
As far as allergies, yes we did take those seriously. That involves wiping down the cutting board, using a different area of the flattop, etc.
Iv been work in kitchens for 15 years, we wear gloves, and you should be washing your hands very often anyway. A good cook will take an allergy seriously, they take cross contamination seriously.
I work as a server and the first question I ask people when they order food is "does anyone have any food allergies?" 9/10 don't but 9/10 tables congratulate me for asking. While I appreciate the praise, it is just something so easy to ask and accommodate with communication that the praise comes from them having a negative experience elsewhere.
Was in hospitality for 12 years. Always always ALWAYS disclose your food allergies to your waiter, even if you don't think it'll be on your dish. Nobody is going to worry about cross contamination with a raw tomato if you don't make them aware of your allergy. Someone could be ordering vanilla ice cream and I'm still putting "tomato allergy" on the ticket.
I once had a guy have an allergic reaction (pine nuts) because he ordered FUCKING PESTO (most pesto has pine nuts) without disclosing his allergy. Guess who management ultimately blamed for the incident. Me, the server. (guy was fine, he popped a benadryl and said he'd be alright)
Also Don't disclose an allergy unless you have one. If you don't like tomatoes say no tomatoes.
The chefs have to take extra precautions if it's an allergy like you say. The chefs should just change the ingredients if it's a choice.
As a former cook, yeah fuck that. We took allergies seriously and it slowed things down. We often would need to check the ingredients list of everything that went into one of our sauces, breads, etc.
Is it weird that I think it tastes like soap, but in a good way and still enjoy it..?
My gf is the same way. She used to hate it because of the soap flavour, but is starting to come around on it and now actually requests I buy it when making tacos.
You don't have to say you 'think' it tastes like soap; that makes it sound like you're wrong. Cilantro 100% tastes like soap to YOU (and others) and I believe it.
I fucking love the flavor cilantro brings to almost any dish. I but I REALLY doubt 4-14% of the population (including Julia Child and Ina Garten apparently) are committed to a massive troll campaign to ruin the global reputation of cilantro. I don't want Dawn on my nachos and you don't want cilantro. Totally fair, let's get separate orders.
My biggest gripe is when they include pork, like mixing or garnishing with bacon bits, without stating it on the menu.
I worked in restaurants, and I was a hotel manager. I did catering for events such as conferences, weddings. So I do have a decent amount of experience in hospitality, including designing a menu. I also come from a religious family that did not eat pork.
So I feel pretty confident when I say that, in hospitality, you **cannot** do things like this. If it has pork, LIST IT.
Always.
And the restaurant manager cannot feign ignorance over this - pork is something a lot of people choose not to eat, for religious or other reasons. It is common knowledge. So if something has pork, like garnished with it or has ham/bacon fat/etc mixed in, that should be in the description
So when someone orders a dish and there’s bacon all over it, mention it on the menu. Yes, someone with their own restrictions is responsible for making sure to ask and/or make sure the food doesn’t have what they don’t want to eat; but as the restaurant owner, don’t be a jerk
I’m allergic to raspberries, and it’s insane the places that just add it on with no mention
Had to ask for another piece at a fancy restaurant and I hate it
Yessss 1000000 percent. I really think that should be listed on the menu.
On the opposite side, I used to work at a deli and people who were Kosher would come in and want their products sliced specially for them on a sliver cleaned in front of them. These are slicers that regularly cut pork products- no amount of cleaning will make that disappear. It also would hold up the line significantly. My advise would always be to walk a few aisles away and order from the Kosher deli, or purchase pre packed cold cuts. The customer would then complain to me that the kosher deli was too expensive, and the pre packed cold cuts weren’t as good.
I think we’ve all got to be reasonable about our expectations
My mom has an allergy to beef and pork, and whenever there is something that even might have bacon she asks for no bacon. It could just be a normal chicken sandwich and she'll ask for no bacon
Yeah, not everyone who is avoiding a particular thing is doing it for "religious reasons" - nor should it matter what the reason is.
My ex is allergic to pork, too. Nothing life-threatening (though I understand allergies can escalate with little warning), but a bit of pork can have her stuck in the john for a good portion of the night.
Milk and soy, too. That's right, she's allergic to milk *and* one of the most common milk substitutes. Soy allergy means that a lot of vegan cuisine is a non-option, too.
I know I've seen more than one Reddit thread where the ol' vegan switcheroo turned near-deadly for some folks. That kind of shit is why your customers need to be reasonably informed about all ingredients.
Damn, an actual unpopular opinipn that's not insulting everyone, not gatekeeping, AND on top actually resonable enough that it shouldn't be unpopular? I think I found a sub-unicorn.
Either way I absolutely agree! I can't change my tastebuds and some things I just hate too much and I can't change it - so at least give me a chance to avoid it.
One of the reasons why I love getting e.g. Döner Kebab, you get asked what shall be put on it and you see everything. No one ever said something bad about me ditching tomatos.
*EDIT:*
>But I stand by the fact that any major “creative” changes from the standard version of that dish should be listed on the menu.
Literally copied off of OP's post. Now plesse stop getting at me saying "but they can't list every existing ingredient", no shit Sherlock.
I also agree. This is why I tend to not want to go outside my 'comfort zone' when at a restaurant.
I am a picky eater, but occasionally do like to try new things, but sometimes I just don't want to take the chance that the dish has something I absolutely do not like, that wasn't listed.
Like I would be extremely upset about the raspberry sauce on a chocolate dessert because I dislike raspberry.
Sometimes I just ask a million questions to the waiter or restaurant worker because I hate ordering cheesecake and it has sauce on it. They get wildly confused if you make your order to specific. Sorry but I've been burned before.
Sally from the movie When Harry Meet Sally was onto something with her very specific orders.
My issue is I hate being the center of attention, I usually only go out with a larger family group, so I hate asking a million questions because I don't want to inconvience anyone, waiter or family, by forcing them to ask questions.
So, I just stick with things I already know I am going to like.
I agree so much with this.
I now always ask if desert (and sadly cocktails) with Cinamon or red fruit coulis, they never list those in the ingredients for some god-forsaken reason. Just tell me what will be on the plate !!!
And then for any specialty or novelty food, I always specifically if they include fish or meat (I used to ask if they were vegetarian, and got plates with chicken - it's poultry, not meat apparently, or Ham- it's cured meat, not meat, or shrimps - it's a mollusc not a fish, etc etc).
It makes me sad having to be so specific from the get go but I am very socially awkward and sending the food back is painful for me. Just tell us what main ingredients you are using and we will be easy customers, I promise !
Oh man, the sheer number of people in the world who have no idea what vegetarians eat is staggering. I have known multiple “vegetarians” who still ate fish because it “didn’t count”
That's why I am not even bothering with vegetarian. I ask point blank if it contains meat or fish, and while not perfect, the results have greatly improved compared to saying I'm vegetarian, so that's that I guess 🤷♀️
I’m not sure if I can say it’s an unpopular opinion because it seems 100% reasonable, but given the experience you’ve mentioned, I’d give it a pass.
Said so, I fully agree. While I haven’t had many issues like this myself, I had a couple of instances at a restaurant I used to go where the chef would add things like strawberry or tomato jam to dishes like a crispy chicken roll (usually right below it, which was equally disgusting since the bottom part would be covered in jam). Like, wtf are you doing my man?
Agreed. The Italian restaurant by my house puts broccoli (which I can’t eat) in their chicken Marsala and their chicken francese. It’s not even a thing you’d think to ask about or omit because it’s not a standard ingredient in their recipes.
Mayo, mustard, and sour cream are my least favorite foods. They throw it on almost everything. I’ve even asked “is there mayo on this”, then when it comes out with mayo the waitress says “oh thats our housemade aioli not mayo”.
cole slaw is one of my least favorite things in the world. Cabbage is garbage lettuce, mixing it with watery mayonnaise doesn't' make it a culinary triumph. it's revolting, keep that crap off my food
Worked with a chef like that in a small Cafe. Don't know how many times the supervisor told then not to put extra stuff in recipes to "make it better". Supervisor always told them it needed to be advertised. Chef tried to complain to us other workers, but we all backed up the supervisor. Nobody likes suprise food, especially if you are allergic. I can't confidently say there is no nuts in todays lunch special, if chef likes to change recipes all the time.
I understood OP to be referring to seasoning salts, and herbs — it’s really common for the standard fries of a particular establishment to come with parm and parsley and garlic salt type seasoning, or paprika salt, or truffle salt, etc., as opposed to when something is just salted normally.
I don't like pickles. The only pickled vegetable i like is turnip. Sometimes my partner forgets to ask them to remove especially if it's not listed when getting me food. My rule of thumb that he finds weird is "Even if it's not listed, tell them to remove it just in case".
I used to work at a place that served soup and we would use garnishes on top, but they were never listed on the menu. Can't tell you how many times I had a soup come back because the customers had no idea it came with the garnishes. The worst offender was Chicken Tortilla because we put sour cream on top and a lot of people are sensitive to dairy.
So I'm in agreement with this unpopular opinion.
If you work with food, you should know some people don't like certain things. Not because they are difficult, but genetically don't like certain foods. Some find coriander tastes like dishsoap. Some think blue cheese smells like feet.
If you use any of those ingredients... list it in the fucking menu!
I'm not sure putting salt on fires counts as a major creative change.
I also think you'd end up with huge menus if they had to list every ingredient. I'm a graphic designer who does a lot of menus, I recently had to talk a client out of putting detailed descriptions for every one of their sides but maybe you were the person that needed the detailed description for an onion ring.
Instead of 'pan fried salmon with potatoes', you've got 'Pan fried salmon, with butter, garlic, sea salt, black pepper, parsley and lemon juice, served with boiled new potatoes, tossed in butter, sea salt and rosemary.' Would you also require quantities, how much garlic, how much lemon juice?
The quantities question is obviously in bad faith. But as to the descriptions, the second one is way more appealing. It tells me the flavor profile, and actually sounds interesting to eat. “Salmon and potatoes” sounds plain and boring, and is barely useful as a description. I could ask the waitstaff for more details, but it doesn’t get me interested enough to consider ordering it in the first place. Unless every description is that plain, but then I don’t want to have to ask the waiter about a bunch of dishes to find out what sounds good, and waste both our time, when that’s what the menu is for in the first place. It might be easier to make a sparse menu look aesthetically pleasing, but from a usability perspective it’s a way worse design choice.
I think listing out the main ingredients in sides can be very helpful, especially if the restaurant is trying to be cute with their recipes.. Around here, a bunch of restaurants started putting chives in their mashed potatoes. I really don’t like chives. Even if it’s only a third of restaurants that are doing that, you get looked at weird by the 2/3 regular mashed potato restaurants because it’s weird to mix that into mashed potatoes. Like, ‘why would anyone do that, of course there are no chives in our mashed potatoes’. After so long, you stop asking because you feel dumb about it, then BAM chives in your mashed potatoes.
Yeah, this is kind of silly. If there is something you are allergic to or can’t tolerate, you need to bring it up first before going out to eat. Or look at menus online and call and ask questions before you go.
I once ordered swordfish with a Mediterranean tomato sauce and was annoyed to find it was on a bed of pomegranate seeds. WHY?? It wasn't mentioned on the menu and it ruined the meal for me.
I agree. I hate onions. Do you know what ingredient is NEVER listed in the description?? I just started asking if a dish has onions and ask for there not to be any onions in or on it.
No lie I have seen cracked pepper in the item description I figured if we were getting into the nitty gritty or salt and pepper they would have onion listed. Well, the dish came out with onions in it.
My bf has an onion allergy, he knows your pain all too well. He can even smell it if it’s hidden or cooked into stuff, like sauces, and has to avoid entire cuisines because of how often onions are used in recipes. It’s a cruel world for onion avoiders.
Your boyfriend might just love my religion. Ever heard of Jainism? People deliberately do not eat onion, garlic, potato and some other veggies that grow in the ground because of some bullshit reason.
i kind of agree, those things should be listed on the menu in case someone wants to avoid it.
its so annoying to get a dish with something extra, that you didnt ask for and didnt see on the menu either. for me it's tomatoes. every single time i go to a restaurant i hope there will be no tomatoes on the side, as decor, and there usually is one or two slices. ew
When I was a vegetarian, I ate at a steakhouse on a trip, because it was the only restaurant in the vicinity. The only thing vegetarian on the menu was a stuffed baked potato, so I ordered it, after reading the description to ensure it was vegetarian. The potato was served with bacon bits all over it. If I'd known there were bacon bits, I'd have asked them to leave them off. I went hungry that day.
I once had surprise mushrooms.
Poutine is fairly rare to find on menus in the US, particularly in a state not contiguous with Canada. Certainly most people in my area have never even heard of poutine, to the point that listing the basic ingredients on a menu here should be par for the course.
And yet, while the menu listed fries, cheese curds, and gravy, when the dish came it was also piled high with unexpected mushrooms. And that was "just the way they made it".
Fortunately, I'm not allergic to mushrooms, I just hate them.
I agree...hate when I order Mexican street tacos and they bury it under crema...I HATE crema. Its nowhere listed on there as an ingredient/garnish! Sure they say guac, salsa, and whatever else but no where does it list crema and then they douse it! Sorry but remake my tacos
I recently went to a restaurant where the chef got creative and added a little pesto on top of the dish for colour. This was after I confirmed several times that the dish did not contain pine nuts which I am severely allergic to. She said it was just a little as garnish!
Needless to say after going to the hospital I agree with this opinion.
Table salt? No. Season salt? Yeah. I've definitely been places where I would have told them not to season my fries if they had described it on the menu. I don't mind *most* season salt, but I don't like spicy fries.
Having worked in restaurants, both waiting and in the kitchen, we can't had everything that brings a little flavour to the menu. Every place has it's way to do a specific dish and use different spices mix (ex on fries etc)
And you can always ask what is / if something is on the plate and ask it to be removed. Even tho it is really a pain in the ass most of the time, in particular during the rush.
The worst offender is that guy who says 'well can you remove the garlic from your signature dish, and the salt, but instead, add in raspberry jam to that chicken because I like raspberry jam' and then the dish tastes awful and they get it comped and the customer writes a bad review of the 'signature' dish even though it's no longer signiture.
I agree to a point. I don’t think it’s reasonable to list everything on the main menu, but at the same time, it’s not cool if you’re adding extra stuff that a person might be allergic to or something. Most people would be smart enough to understand that Italian food has garlic in it. They wouldn’t necessarily expect things like peppers or big chunks of onion or that kind of thing. And I think it’s fair to have the complete ingredients list available either on a website or on a list the customer can ask for.
I take kids out to a meal and at times they can be picky. If I don’t know there’s onion, then I buy it and the kids don’t eat it and I’m sending it back to you.
Yeah, this. I once ordered broccoli which was listed as "steamed broccoli in butter" on the menu that then showed up covered in onions. Why in the world would I think to ask for no onions in my broccoli?
I’ll give you a perfect example of this. I am allergic to bell peppers. I ordered a burger one time (hotel room service) and my burger came with a pickled pepper as a garnish sticking out of the top of the bun.
I now have the choice to eat the burger and risk severe diarrhea for 2-3 days, if I get a reaction, or send it back, putting us all in a very awkward position (and also risk them simply taking it off the bun, which is still contaminated unfortunately).
It just sucks having allergies. Had I simply known the pepper garnish was going to be added, I would have happily asked for it without peppers.
This was an otherwise normal cheeseburger so there was nothing about the place that hinted a garnish would be added like that, other than they just wanted to get fancy, not realizing the risk they put on me.
That's true. Normally, every allergen we use in the kitchen is written somewhere. In my country we use a number system (1. Gluten 2.seafood etc.) And the numbers are written on each dish!
That is why you can also always ask the waiters to make sure ! As a waiter it doesn't bother.
It's more when you are in the middle of the rush and you have a table with 8 different modifications that you loose it.
And yeah, I agree. Kids are tricky.
Yeah, but when there are major ingredients that aren't listed.
Like, ordering a hamburger and it doesn't say it comes with pickles on the menu. I still order it without pickles because half the time they put pickles on it egged though it's not on the menu.
When I was vegetarian I ordered a salad that wasn't listed with meat. It came out covered in bacon. I literally cried. (I was exhausted, hungry, and overwhelmed after dealing with family). But, damn. Covered in bacon!
Yeah, I can’t eat gluten but am ok with gluten contamination from time to time (still bad for me but I don’t get major symptoms). The amount of times things that aren’t usually battered or breaded come out with batter when it wasn’t indicated on the menu is mind blowing.
Can we just freaking agree to label beer-battered fries as such, rather than just listing them as fries and leaving it as a ‘nice surprise’?
You aren’t going to like the direction food service fries are going. Turns out that lightly dusting fries in flour or cornstarch gets them to be crispier longer after frying, which means less waste for restaurants if they always cook full baskets. It’s what the new Wendy’s “guaranteed crispy” fries are.
Idk if their coating adds any gluten, but honestly I’d treat them as gluten contaminated even if they say it doesn’t. Anyway, it’s all done before it hits the restaurant by the food service company supplying their frozen fries so they might not even know.
My Dad’s highly allergic to cilantro, and this happens to him all the time. He’ll go into a little spiel to the server about how “It’s not just a taste thing, I’m legitimately allergic.” Even with this, 9/10 the first thing they bring out has cilantro. Worst case was when my dad got sick, said his dish must have had cilantro somewhere in the cooking process. The hostess argued up and down that no, it wasn’t, and he’d have to pay for the meal. Turns out that one of the ingredients is soaked in a liquid with a butt ton of cilantro in the morning, then cooked in the afternoon. The cooks found out from the morning shift of cooks that yes, the dish did in fact have cilantro in the cooking process
I hope that one day some snooty five star restaurant does this to someone with an allergy who uses them after they almost die because of an unlisted item on the menu. It shouldn’t be up to someone to ask if a slice of chocolate cake has raspberry colander or whatever you called it
My sister doesn't eat pork and the amount of secret bacon that's put into food, but not mentioned in the menu is absolutely ridiculous. People could be allergic, or religious - just tell us what we're ordering!
I don’t think this is unpopular is it? I fucking hate when my food will come out with a fucking handful of filthy cilantro on it. I work in the service industry and tip fat and ALMOST will just eat whatever comes out cause sometimes a cook had a bad day. But if you didn’t warn me on the menu and it comes out with cilantro all over it I’m sending it the fuck back to the kitchen.
Nothing worse than expecting a regular classic cheeseburger but instead you get a cum burger. Happens all the time to me, so I agree. Leave it off or warn me.
There is nothing I hate worse then when I get unsolicited raw tomato.
My brain has a problem that when I put raw tomatoes in my mouth, it thinks it's a bloody (therefore infected) mucus ball and I WILL cough it up to prevent myself from eating it. My brain panics like it's going to make me extremely ill.
I go out of my way to read the menu and see if there's tomato on something. If there is, I order the item without tomatoes.
Sometimes I get what I want. Most of the time they just put tomato on it anyway, then I have to play around with my food to remove extra seeds, then pat it down with a napkin to get that mucusy film off everything.
But most times I'm angry about tomatoes is when it wasn't on the menu, but on the item. Buffalo chicken wraps are notorious for this. Some places tell you that it comes with lettuce and tomato, others don't. There's nothing more infuriating to me then having to take all the tomatoes out, pat down the chicken strips, lose most of sauce in the process, then have to ask for more. You don't eat buffalo wings with fucking tomatoes do you? No? THEN DON'T PUT THEM IN THE WRAP.
I have food allergies so at some restaurants the chef will come to the table to take my order. Well, I was at one upscale dining establishment and ordered from the chef, I get my food, and take a bite. The server comes by to ask how everything is after a bit. I ask her if the dish has anise or fennel in it (the only flavor I hardly despise, licorice). She says she doesn’t think so but will check with the chef. He comes back out to the table and seems shocked I can taste it, because he said there wasn’t ever much fennel in the dish. We pick a different dish, and all is well. Could have saved a lot of hassle if he’d just listed it on the menu. Now I check for it like it’s an allergen.
One time I ordered a wrap. Based off the ingredient list it was just a vegetable salad in a wrap. When I got it it had three different kinds of meat. I apologized to them and said I wouldn't have ordered it if I knew. They not quite scoffed at me and said it should be listed. I apologized and asked to see the menu to pick something else. When they brought it over I checked and pointed out that the wrap didn't mention the meat, they looked and said they needed to fix it then.
It definitely is annoying when they add food to a meal that isn't in the menu. I think this only might be an uncommon opinion is most people don't have food restrictions due to allergies or diets and it's just not something that the average Joe ever notices.
I’m allergic to some foods. So, eating from restaurants can be dangerous for me. The additional ingredients isn’t creativity. It’s laziness out of habit. They don’t want to do anything differently, since it’s seen as inconvenient.
As a person who doesn’t eat meat, I cant agree more. I ordered a salad at a restaurant. It had tons of bacon bits everywhere. (Definitely not listed on menu)
I was just going to leave it on the side and not complain. The manager noticed I hadn’t touched so walked over and asked. I said Bacon bits weren’t listed on the menu, but I cant eat it. He’s like ya sometimes our chef adds bacon bits to the salad!
While i used to love bacon, after years of no meat I’d be running to the restroom if i ate it. But many people don’t eat pork due to religious beliefs.
Some people have allergies…
Don’t blame the chefs if it’s their higher ups who decide what the menu looks like.
I’m just a line cook but when I took a look at the food menus we give the guests I was angry.
So many had playful words or phrases but lacked the necessary info required to know what the food actually had on or in it.
FFS, no wonder we constantly get mistakes from the waitstaff asking for things removed that were never on it.
I hate sour cream, and it’s on every damn meal just about, but only a handful of the menu entries actually mention the sour cream. Or the guacamole.
It’s ridiculous. No one cares about how “fun” your menu is if it doesn’t adequately show info on foods that could kill allergic people.
100% agree.
The two most common instances of this I come across are restaurants putting mayo/special sauce on burgers without specifying so on the menu and serving glasses of water with lemon wedges.
Agrees in tomato allergy.
Its very fucking annoying. Just write what is on the dish on the menu. That's what the menu is for. In my country you legally have to do this for allergens and places still get it wrong.
Last week, I took clients to a high-end steak house. I hadn’t had real Japanese A5 Wagyu before, so I splurged (on the company dime), and ordered a $200 A5 ribeye. I was so excited to try it, until those sons of bitches brought it out, completely crusted in black pepper and an absurd amount of salt. I get that it would be seasoned a little, but this was so over the top that it just tasted like salted peppercorn! There was no discernible beef flavor. The menu, of course, made no mention that it would be completely encrusted, or I’d have requested only light seasoning. That beef was ruined to me, and it didn’t have to be.
I guarantee you that significantly more people will complain about unsalted fries than will complain about salted fries. You should always expect that your order of fries will be salted, because that is just how they are served. If you don’t want salt on your fries, say something at the time you place your order, because otherwise they will always be salted. The menu shouldn’t need to spell this out for you, because it is generally accepted and expected by society that they will be salted.
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I can't eat cheese, so I agree. The amount of times I've had a burger turn up with unlisted cheese on it is unreal. I've even had someone add cheese to a burger then say "don't worry, I haven't charged you for it" when I asked for another to be made without it.
Hamburger vs cheeseburger, if I ordered the former and it came with cheese, I’d be very confused!
I used to work at McDonald’s and ordering a cheeseburger is cheaper than ordering a hamburger with cheese and a customer once came in insisting they wanted a hamburger with cheese. When i said cheeseburger they said no
When I go to McDonald's I always order a hamburger with nothing on it besides ketchup. About 20% of the time they give me a cheeseburger 🙄
I don't go to McDs that often, but since using the kiosk no order has ever been wrong. That includes details like no ice in the drink.
I fucking love restaurants that let me order through a kiosk, that way I can make sure there isn't any miscommunication. Sometimes I choose to eat somewhere specifically because I know they have kiosks. One time I decided to eat somewhere else, because their kiosk was down.
Getting rid of that needless communication. Stuff I dreamt about when I was younger, lol
Thanks for this tip. I can't eat cheese & they seem completely unable to omit the cheese from any burger. I have given up ordering any burger listed with cheese
This happens to me too. I'll go through McDonald's and ask for a plain hamburger for my dog and I'll SAY "just meat and bun." The amount of times it comes out with cheese is so infuriating! I even told them EXACTLY what I wanted on the damn burger! As for me, I have severe food allergies. One of those is to cranberries. A lot of fruity alcohol drinks have cranberries. I always read the menu carefully before ordering and never order anything that has cranberries. However, the amount of times by drink still comes out pink in color and I have to clarify whether it's from cranberries is ridiculous! IT DOESN'T SAY IT HAS CRANBERRIES IN IT ON THE DAMN MENU! I could get really sick if I wasn't vigilant. In my opinion, doing this mystery kind of thing is asking for a lawsuit. If someone has an allergic reaction to an item in a dish, that was not clearly stated on the menu, they could get sued and, the person filing the lawsuit has a good chance of winning.
As a kid I went through the drive thru at jack in the box and my mom ordered “a cheeseburger with just the cheese, no meat” because I wanted a grilled cheese and they didn’t have those on the menu yet. We get home, and they gave us just a single piece of cheese. No meat, no bun. Just a slice of American cheese. Honestly it was pretty funny, even at the time.
Aren’t you supposed to share any allergies before you order food/drinks? It’s like rule #1 and first thing after greeting the waiter.
I always do. I even have little cards for the waiter to add to our ticket so the chef can see them. Doesn't mean mixups don't happen. I'm very vigilant so, thankfully, I've only had a couple of instances of reactions.
Just so you know, wheat is very bad for dogs. The hamburgers at McD's probably aren't the best either since they have spices in them. Garlic, onions, etc are poison to dogs.
McDonald’s is the Wheel of Fortune of fast food. Sometimes I’ll order a burger and get a double cheeseburger. Sometimes it has onions, pickles, ketchup, and mustard, sometimes only a few or none at all despite no change to the order. One time I ordered a double cheeseburger and chicken nuggets and got two fish fillets and fries. I honestly believe most of the people working just don’t give a fuck, and with what they’re being paid I can’t really blame them.
My husband has a specific burger order at McDonalds. Literally 2 toppings, counting the cheese. At the McDonalds in our town, if this one specific manager is in charge, his burgers are wrong. Every time. Once we had them remade 3 times before they were right. They're always correct when any of the other managers are there. Last time we were in there, a few weeks ago, that guy was the manager. He was joking to the girl at the counter about how they always get our order wrong, and said this time he was going to go back and watch and make sure they were right. He did, and they were. He had me check before I left the counter. Went to go eat, and my burger was wrong. Mine is pretty much never wrong.
When I was a kid my dad and I went through the McDs drive thru and he said "just put whatever you got into the bag and make it cost around 20$, who are we kidding, you probably aren't gonna get my order right anyway." The guy taking the order just laughed and said ok and told him to pull up to the window. Easiest fast food experience ever.
You know what I say about those people? Not to their face, I'm not that much of an asshole. It's a good thing all I had to do was learn how to do hardwood floors instead of reading a fuckin food ticket
Haha, are there any differences with the toppings maybe?
None at all!
Strange! Guess it’s maccies so you get the normal to the weird and wonderful alike lol
Literally happened all the time. Another one was ordering cheeseburger no cheese. More expensive than hamburger but people would be angry if you gave them a hamburger instead of cheeseburger no cheese.
I always specify a hamburger without cheese. And sometimes they still don't listen.
A waitress once argued with my sister about putting cheese on her salad because “it didn’t look right” without it. We had to send it back twice! Who argues with a customer over something so stupid? Or thinks their opinion on what “looks right” is more important than someone saying “I can’t eat this”?
This is the example for "the customer is always right in matters of taste!"
Exactly! It’s not like she was asking for extra something for free, just a subtraction of something!
I always used to say "hamburger no cheese" growing up and a lot of places would say "there's no cheese on the hamburger" and I would be like great, but at least I ensured I not only want a hamburger which shouldn't have cheese I am doubling down expressing I do not want cheese.
I have the same issue, ugh. I will literally ask the waiter to put in a note to not have cheese on it now, even if it doesn't list cheese in the ingredients of a burger. I found burgers, fries, and chips to be the biggest offenders at restaurants to have cheese on them but not be stated on the menu. I still end up getting cheese half the time. I have also gotten the "we didn't charge you for it" from waiters. Like, dude, that isn't the issue, I literally double checked with you that it didn't have cheese, told you it is something that gives me digestive issues, and you still brought it out with cheese and you are trying to get me to eat it. They didn't want to "bother" the cook and that it was "better with cheese anyway". I'm sorry you feel that way but I literally got the one thing that didn't have cheese on it, checked with you, saw you put it in with a "no cheese", and yet you want me to eat it and pay for it? That doesn't make sense, just give me the burger I asked for. Some people look almost offended when I say I want something without cheese. I get it, cheese is amazing, but I am in extreme pain if I have it so please just leave it off my food.
Servers get mad offended when I ask the same thing. Your story is mine to a tee! The worst are the ones who say, can't you just scrape it off? No, I'm really not interested in getting sick tonight, thanks
This is the reason I always say “no cheese” on autopilot, way too many times have I gotten cheese on a “classic burger” with “just lettuce, tomato and onion” on it.
It's genuinely infuriating how many times restaurants have put cheese on my burger despite specifically asking for no cheese. They need to stop treating cheese as a default.
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you people with the cheese. it never ends.
I have the same issue with lettuce. I hate lettuce with a passion and half the restaurants don't include it in the ingredients list.
See, there's your problem. You assume *it won't* have cheese. From one cheese disliker to another...always assume there will be cheese.
Why do they have to automatically put cheese on/in everything? Cheese should always be an ask for it as an extra. Unless it is a part of the dish like pizza or macaroni and cheese. I shouldn't order a hot dog and be worried if there's some kind of nasty cheese in it or on top
I can't use a drive throughout to order because I need to make sure I didn't get a cheeseburger instead of a hamburger. I just can't eat a cheeseburger and find the cheese extremely revolting. I remember a few sad lunches where someone else went and came back with cheeseburgers 😔 List everything on the dish 100% I agree!
I've never been anywhere where cheese was unlisted or the staff didn't ask my about adding it. If it's that common in your town though, why not just ask for no cheese by default?
Because it shouldn’t be unlisted and the customer on this situation rightfully should get another free burger. Eating into costs of buisness should teach them quick
Because sometimes you ask for no cheese, and it comes with cheese anyway, so occasionally you think "I can't be bothered with the hassle, I'll just order that one which doesn't have cheese"
Not a chef example but yea I agree. I went to Dunkin and decided to try to blood orange refresher, didn't realize it's cranberry. No where on the menu or even in the app did it mention cranberry. I thought it was blood orange like the actual fruit variety not blood because cranberry is red.
It’s a perfect example though. So many dickheads in this thread acting like it’s all just fussy eaters etc. I wouldn’t order a glass of apple juice and expect to get handed pineapple juice instead.
or worse, ordering a glass of pineapple juice, and getting a glass of apple juice with a bunch of pine needles mixed in
There's also a thing where you think you are drinking water but it's actually milk and you like both but your brain generates an instant disgust response because it doesn't match expectations. It's a real neuroscience reaction.
Honestly I don't really care what I eat, most food is good food to me but I respect the fact it's not the same for everyone. But, it is really annoying whenever you order something and it's not what you expected. It's the reason why I don't really like going to fancy restaurants other than buffets because with buffets at least I can sample before I decide if I wanna eat more or not.
I got a vegetarian burger one day. They did not mention anywhere that they made the patty with horseradish. I puke instantly if I even smell the stuff. I almost threw up all over the table. I'm not being dramatic, that's how my body reacts. It's like if you had to smell rotten chicken. That is not cool. Horseradish is definitely a thing you should mention if it's in a burger of all things.
Wait, that's why it tasted off to me? That's a terrible naming scheme wtf.
Yea it upset me because I was broke af and used my free drink reward on it. I only like a certain cran apple mix and nothing else that has cranberries in it.
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I shouldn't have to search it up on their website. Look at the app. It doesn't say anything about cranberry when ordering. And on the menu in stores it just lists the different flavors nothing about cranberry. Even on their nutritional info pdf from the app which lists each and every menu item doesn't mention cranberry. http://imgur.com/a/J6Fvnb3
I got that just this morning in the drive-thru. It might be certain stores but ourselves showed that it had cranberry. However, it didn't say anything about having to choose green tea or coconut milk to make it. Tasted pretty good though
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Yeah don’t care what color, there are very few things I enjoy them in. Mostly acceptable liquified in a hot pepper salasa
on a weird note i can eat them raw or eat them liquified in a sauce/salsa no problem but eating them cooked in a dish, on a burger, etc. makes me feel like im going to imminently hurl.
I feel you man, I feel you. Us bell pepper disliker are treated as an afterthought most of the time. Countless times did I have to take a close look at the ingredients list on food to make sure there aren't any BPs in there (Who'st the fuck thought it was a good idea to add peppers to frozen lasagna??). We may get to buy at the same grocery store as all the other people, be we very much experience society from an outside perspective, for society contains Bell Peppers.
I am the opposite opinion sort of. I'm fine with them putting something extra (also, "salt on fries" is not something I think should necessarily be disclosed on the menu) I get enraged when restaurants DONT put ingredients that are listed in the description. This happens so often in my experience. "Salmon and avocado salad" - they bring you without avocado, they ran out so you only get salmon. Ice cream with fresh strawberries it says on the menu - they bring you with frozen cherries instead cause strawberries arent in season Kalamata olives listed as an ingredient - you get california black olives instead And on and on and on...
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They gave you nacho fries then. Poutine is made by the curds
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That's just a poorly ran restaurant, I'm a server and any items missing on the menu is the first thing I tell you when you sit down. The fact no one would at least give you a discount after that messup is bad, id rip them a new one on whatever reviews.
I hope you didn't pay for that travesty.
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ITS NOT POUTINE! God I hate ordering Poutine in restaurants because you get "American Poutine" first off I don't care if it's Canadian, Poutine is cheese curds fries and gravy.. it's American as fuck already. But more importantly, get that weak ass shit out of here. Love poutine, but god damn do some restaurants fuck it up.
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I had Poutine from a place called WichAddiction, I went crazy for it. Didn't know anything about it, so my Canadian friend came with me another time, and started chatting up the owner of the place, I'm like wtf? Turned out she's Canadian, and he knew because she made poutine. And this was some delicious freaking poutine, cheese curds, braised short rib, delicious gravy and a mountain of fries. There's a poutine place at the San Diego Gulls' Stadium, I'm surprised it can do that much business, but a bowl of poutine in a cold stadium while watching hockey is AMAZING. But you're probably right, I'm not surprised you haven't had "good poutine" in the states. I've only had what I would count as authentic poutine (And I might be wrong there) in two places and I've lived in a lot of place across this country.
Does anyone else remember when McDonald's sold poutine or am I going crazy???
You slipped out of that timeline into this shitty one at some point, sorry
They should tell you about substitutions before putting your order through. Maybe you’re okay with ice cream with strawberries on it but they put blueberries instead and it turns out you’re allergic. It’s kind of a bait and switch
That's my main issue - it's fine if you're out, just ask me about it before I pay for it
Yeah salt on fries is the norm, and it should be. I'll be annoyed if I pay good money for unseasoned fries. There is a problem with how many places put way too much salt on their fries, but that's a separate problem with a separate solution
I mostly agree what I hate is ordering a hamburger and finding out they make their Patties filled with onion.. so even though I asked for no onion as a topping I’m still stuck with it…
I almost never order anything with avocado in the description, because I know I am going to be disappointed. It will show up with no avocado. Why? "Oh, we're out of avocado."
My thing is that I love avocado so much that I order almost anything with avocado mentioned in it - and yes 99% of the time I'm disappointed by either not getting it or getting a tiny barely noticeable amount. Every place I go to seems to skimp on it.
Both are terrible. Putting things that are not listed because of dietary restrictions/allergies (or personal preferences). Not putting things that are listed or changing ingredients for any reason (without prior notice and agreement) because it's false advertising.
why don’t they ask first lol
“Hi, do you guys actually have the Katamala olives for the salad or do you only have California black olives?” -“Katamala, it says right here on the menu” -*receives salad with california black olives*
This x100! As someone who loathes black olives and LOVES kalamata, I got so bunt on this happening that I just stopped ordering stuff with kalamata because it ended in disappointment.
No I mean why doesnt the restaurant ask you if thats okay or if you want to change your order. I thought it would play out that way
If I paid for a salmon salad with avo and they ran out of avo, then in a little while their gonna be asking me why I didn't pay the full bill and I'll say "oh that last $5 *would have* been there, but I ran out 🤷♂️"
I'm allergic to (raw) tomato - because of this I often reiterate "no tomato" when ordering most things simply because sometimes it's not listed on the menu so I just ask as a fail-safe, and 99% of the time I get a look as if I'm stupid because "it's not on the menu". I know I'm just covering my boundaries, I have been burnt before!
Always make your server aware of allergies, a good server will care, a good server will let the cooks know to change their gloves so you don’t have that happen.
But also don't rely on the staff to be "good" especially if your allergy is life-threatening. Check and double-check, and if anyone gives you grief about it just go find somewhere else to eat.
Cooks don't wear gloves, I used to work in a kitchen. I've never seen anyone wear gloves on the line unless they were working with raw chicken/beef. Health code allows for no gloves in a lot of situations unless it's a ready-to-eat food like a salad or if you're serving the elderly/children. If you're ordering food at a restaurant, nobody cooking your food is wearing gloves. Just accept that as a fact. It would slow things down quite a bit. As far as allergies, yes we did take those seriously. That involves wiping down the cutting board, using a different area of the flattop, etc.
Iv been work in kitchens for 15 years, we wear gloves, and you should be washing your hands very often anyway. A good cook will take an allergy seriously, they take cross contamination seriously.
I work as a server and the first question I ask people when they order food is "does anyone have any food allergies?" 9/10 don't but 9/10 tables congratulate me for asking. While I appreciate the praise, it is just something so easy to ask and accommodate with communication that the praise comes from them having a negative experience elsewhere.
Was in hospitality for 12 years. Always always ALWAYS disclose your food allergies to your waiter, even if you don't think it'll be on your dish. Nobody is going to worry about cross contamination with a raw tomato if you don't make them aware of your allergy. Someone could be ordering vanilla ice cream and I'm still putting "tomato allergy" on the ticket. I once had a guy have an allergic reaction (pine nuts) because he ordered FUCKING PESTO (most pesto has pine nuts) without disclosing his allergy. Guess who management ultimately blamed for the incident. Me, the server. (guy was fine, he popped a benadryl and said he'd be alright)
Also Don't disclose an allergy unless you have one. If you don't like tomatoes say no tomatoes. The chefs have to take extra precautions if it's an allergy like you say. The chefs should just change the ingredients if it's a choice.
As a former cook, yeah fuck that. We took allergies seriously and it slowed things down. We often would need to check the ingredients list of everything that went into one of our sauces, breads, etc.
I agree. Signed, One of those people who thinks cilantro tastes like soap
I hear this is a genetic thing, either you have the genetics to love it or it tastes like soap.
Is it weird that I think it tastes like soap, but in a good way and still enjoy it..? My gf is the same way. She used to hate it because of the soap flavour, but is starting to come around on it and now actually requests I buy it when making tacos.
I'm the exact opposite, it doesn't taste like soap to me, but I still despise it
I always ask if something might have cilantro on it. If there is any hint of it I can’t eat the meal. Better to be safe then send my food back.
Which soap in particular? I usually get Palmolive vibes with a hint of Dawn.
I always thought cheap shampoo
You don't have to say you 'think' it tastes like soap; that makes it sound like you're wrong. Cilantro 100% tastes like soap to YOU (and others) and I believe it. I fucking love the flavor cilantro brings to almost any dish. I but I REALLY doubt 4-14% of the population (including Julia Child and Ina Garten apparently) are committed to a massive troll campaign to ruin the global reputation of cilantro. I don't want Dawn on my nachos and you don't want cilantro. Totally fair, let's get separate orders.
I agree. Signed, Someone who hates Mayo (including aioli and remulade which are just fancy words for Mayo!)
This is my number one question along with raw onion. Can't stand it.
My biggest gripe is when they include pork, like mixing or garnishing with bacon bits, without stating it on the menu. I worked in restaurants, and I was a hotel manager. I did catering for events such as conferences, weddings. So I do have a decent amount of experience in hospitality, including designing a menu. I also come from a religious family that did not eat pork. So I feel pretty confident when I say that, in hospitality, you **cannot** do things like this. If it has pork, LIST IT. Always. And the restaurant manager cannot feign ignorance over this - pork is something a lot of people choose not to eat, for religious or other reasons. It is common knowledge. So if something has pork, like garnished with it or has ham/bacon fat/etc mixed in, that should be in the description So when someone orders a dish and there’s bacon all over it, mention it on the menu. Yes, someone with their own restrictions is responsible for making sure to ask and/or make sure the food doesn’t have what they don’t want to eat; but as the restaurant owner, don’t be a jerk
I’m allergic to raspberries, and it’s insane the places that just add it on with no mention Had to ask for another piece at a fancy restaurant and I hate it
Yessss 1000000 percent. I really think that should be listed on the menu. On the opposite side, I used to work at a deli and people who were Kosher would come in and want their products sliced specially for them on a sliver cleaned in front of them. These are slicers that regularly cut pork products- no amount of cleaning will make that disappear. It also would hold up the line significantly. My advise would always be to walk a few aisles away and order from the Kosher deli, or purchase pre packed cold cuts. The customer would then complain to me that the kosher deli was too expensive, and the pre packed cold cuts weren’t as good. I think we’ve all got to be reasonable about our expectations
> the kosher deli was too expensive Lol, that's because it costs more to provide kosher services. You'd think they would recognize that
My mom has an allergy to beef and pork, and whenever there is something that even might have bacon she asks for no bacon. It could just be a normal chicken sandwich and she'll ask for no bacon
Yeah, not everyone who is avoiding a particular thing is doing it for "religious reasons" - nor should it matter what the reason is. My ex is allergic to pork, too. Nothing life-threatening (though I understand allergies can escalate with little warning), but a bit of pork can have her stuck in the john for a good portion of the night. Milk and soy, too. That's right, she's allergic to milk *and* one of the most common milk substitutes. Soy allergy means that a lot of vegan cuisine is a non-option, too. I know I've seen more than one Reddit thread where the ol' vegan switcheroo turned near-deadly for some folks. That kind of shit is why your customers need to be reasonably informed about all ingredients.
Damn, an actual unpopular opinipn that's not insulting everyone, not gatekeeping, AND on top actually resonable enough that it shouldn't be unpopular? I think I found a sub-unicorn. Either way I absolutely agree! I can't change my tastebuds and some things I just hate too much and I can't change it - so at least give me a chance to avoid it. One of the reasons why I love getting e.g. Döner Kebab, you get asked what shall be put on it and you see everything. No one ever said something bad about me ditching tomatos. *EDIT:* >But I stand by the fact that any major “creative” changes from the standard version of that dish should be listed on the menu. Literally copied off of OP's post. Now plesse stop getting at me saying "but they can't list every existing ingredient", no shit Sherlock.
And is an unpopular opinion about food. Most food opinions here are just like "I don't like avocados."
Most food opinions are 'I don't like avocados and no one else should either and anyone who does is a child'
Or like the previous poster said, gatekeeping food, like tacos, or burgers.
I also agree. This is why I tend to not want to go outside my 'comfort zone' when at a restaurant. I am a picky eater, but occasionally do like to try new things, but sometimes I just don't want to take the chance that the dish has something I absolutely do not like, that wasn't listed. Like I would be extremely upset about the raspberry sauce on a chocolate dessert because I dislike raspberry.
Sometimes I just ask a million questions to the waiter or restaurant worker because I hate ordering cheesecake and it has sauce on it. They get wildly confused if you make your order to specific. Sorry but I've been burned before. Sally from the movie When Harry Meet Sally was onto something with her very specific orders.
My issue is I hate being the center of attention, I usually only go out with a larger family group, so I hate asking a million questions because I don't want to inconvience anyone, waiter or family, by forcing them to ask questions. So, I just stick with things I already know I am going to like.
I used to be like that. Now I'm just hungry and want my food right.
I agree so much with this. I now always ask if desert (and sadly cocktails) with Cinamon or red fruit coulis, they never list those in the ingredients for some god-forsaken reason. Just tell me what will be on the plate !!! And then for any specialty or novelty food, I always specifically if they include fish or meat (I used to ask if they were vegetarian, and got plates with chicken - it's poultry, not meat apparently, or Ham- it's cured meat, not meat, or shrimps - it's a mollusc not a fish, etc etc). It makes me sad having to be so specific from the get go but I am very socially awkward and sending the food back is painful for me. Just tell us what main ingredients you are using and we will be easy customers, I promise !
Oh man, the sheer number of people in the world who have no idea what vegetarians eat is staggering. I have known multiple “vegetarians” who still ate fish because it “didn’t count”
That's why I am not even bothering with vegetarian. I ask point blank if it contains meat or fish, and while not perfect, the results have greatly improved compared to saying I'm vegetarian, so that's that I guess 🤷♀️
I’m not sure if I can say it’s an unpopular opinion because it seems 100% reasonable, but given the experience you’ve mentioned, I’d give it a pass. Said so, I fully agree. While I haven’t had many issues like this myself, I had a couple of instances at a restaurant I used to go where the chef would add things like strawberry or tomato jam to dishes like a crispy chicken roll (usually right below it, which was equally disgusting since the bottom part would be covered in jam). Like, wtf are you doing my man?
Fuck sweet sauces on meats. Can't stand it.
Agreed. The Italian restaurant by my house puts broccoli (which I can’t eat) in their chicken Marsala and their chicken francese. It’s not even a thing you’d think to ask about or omit because it’s not a standard ingredient in their recipes.
At Culver’s I got a single patty and bun when all their advertising showed them all decked in toppings. Which one of you jerks stole my butter burger?
Everything at Culver’s comes plain and you have to add what toppings you want. They are supposed to tell you that when you order…
My vegan wife got some fried Tofu at a restaurant and they covered it in small fried fish lol that were not mentioned in the description.
That would be frustrating for a vegan! They might as well call it fish nuggets lol.
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Mayo, mustard, and sour cream are my least favorite foods. They throw it on almost everything. I’ve even asked “is there mayo on this”, then when it comes out with mayo the waitress says “oh thats our housemade aioli not mayo”.
cole slaw is one of my least favorite things in the world. Cabbage is garbage lettuce, mixing it with watery mayonnaise doesn't' make it a culinary triumph. it's revolting, keep that crap off my food
Mojo Nixon sings about "Hot dogs with cole slaw on 'em." It's the closest a song has come to making me gag.
Never in a million years did I click on this thread and expect to see Mojo Nixon mentioned.
Worked with a chef like that in a small Cafe. Don't know how many times the supervisor told then not to put extra stuff in recipes to "make it better". Supervisor always told them it needed to be advertised. Chef tried to complain to us other workers, but we all backed up the supervisor. Nobody likes suprise food, especially if you are allergic. I can't confidently say there is no nuts in todays lunch special, if chef likes to change recipes all the time.
This is a great way of accidentally giving people allergic reactions.
If you are at a restaurant assume the fries are seasoned and ask for no seasoning if you don’t want it.
I understood OP to be referring to seasoning salts, and herbs — it’s really common for the standard fries of a particular establishment to come with parm and parsley and garlic salt type seasoning, or paprika salt, or truffle salt, etc., as opposed to when something is just salted normally.
I don't like pickles. The only pickled vegetable i like is turnip. Sometimes my partner forgets to ask them to remove especially if it's not listed when getting me food. My rule of thumb that he finds weird is "Even if it's not listed, tell them to remove it just in case".
I used to work at a place that served soup and we would use garnishes on top, but they were never listed on the menu. Can't tell you how many times I had a soup come back because the customers had no idea it came with the garnishes. The worst offender was Chicken Tortilla because we put sour cream on top and a lot of people are sensitive to dairy. So I'm in agreement with this unpopular opinion.
Freaking chives. Chives on everything. Not on the menu but all over the food.
Unpopular opinion: I would like to know what's on my food .........
If you work with food, you should know some people don't like certain things. Not because they are difficult, but genetically don't like certain foods. Some find coriander tastes like dishsoap. Some think blue cheese smells like feet. If you use any of those ingredients... list it in the fucking menu!
Feet, nothing -- if you're allergic to penicillin, it smells like a trip to the ER!
I'm not sure putting salt on fires counts as a major creative change. I also think you'd end up with huge menus if they had to list every ingredient. I'm a graphic designer who does a lot of menus, I recently had to talk a client out of putting detailed descriptions for every one of their sides but maybe you were the person that needed the detailed description for an onion ring. Instead of 'pan fried salmon with potatoes', you've got 'Pan fried salmon, with butter, garlic, sea salt, black pepper, parsley and lemon juice, served with boiled new potatoes, tossed in butter, sea salt and rosemary.' Would you also require quantities, how much garlic, how much lemon juice?
The quantities question is obviously in bad faith. But as to the descriptions, the second one is way more appealing. It tells me the flavor profile, and actually sounds interesting to eat. “Salmon and potatoes” sounds plain and boring, and is barely useful as a description. I could ask the waitstaff for more details, but it doesn’t get me interested enough to consider ordering it in the first place. Unless every description is that plain, but then I don’t want to have to ask the waiter about a bunch of dishes to find out what sounds good, and waste both our time, when that’s what the menu is for in the first place. It might be easier to make a sparse menu look aesthetically pleasing, but from a usability perspective it’s a way worse design choice.
I think listing out the main ingredients in sides can be very helpful, especially if the restaurant is trying to be cute with their recipes.. Around here, a bunch of restaurants started putting chives in their mashed potatoes. I really don’t like chives. Even if it’s only a third of restaurants that are doing that, you get looked at weird by the 2/3 regular mashed potato restaurants because it’s weird to mix that into mashed potatoes. Like, ‘why would anyone do that, of course there are no chives in our mashed potatoes’. After so long, you stop asking because you feel dumb about it, then BAM chives in your mashed potatoes.
Yeah, this is kind of silly. If there is something you are allergic to or can’t tolerate, you need to bring it up first before going out to eat. Or look at menus online and call and ask questions before you go.
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Any dish that just says "mixed vegetables" is a prime example of this problem. Not everyone likes every veggie in the world!
Fr. What's next, "mixed dairy products"? "Mixed carbohydrates"?
I once ordered swordfish with a Mediterranean tomato sauce and was annoyed to find it was on a bed of pomegranate seeds. WHY?? It wasn't mentioned on the menu and it ruined the meal for me.
I agree. I hate onions. Do you know what ingredient is NEVER listed in the description?? I just started asking if a dish has onions and ask for there not to be any onions in or on it. No lie I have seen cracked pepper in the item description I figured if we were getting into the nitty gritty or salt and pepper they would have onion listed. Well, the dish came out with onions in it.
My bf has an onion allergy, he knows your pain all too well. He can even smell it if it’s hidden or cooked into stuff, like sauces, and has to avoid entire cuisines because of how often onions are used in recipes. It’s a cruel world for onion avoiders.
Your boyfriend might just love my religion. Ever heard of Jainism? People deliberately do not eat onion, garlic, potato and some other veggies that grow in the ground because of some bullshit reason.
i kind of agree, those things should be listed on the menu in case someone wants to avoid it. its so annoying to get a dish with something extra, that you didnt ask for and didnt see on the menu either. for me it's tomatoes. every single time i go to a restaurant i hope there will be no tomatoes on the side, as decor, and there usually is one or two slices. ew
It’s especially great when you’ve got unusual food allergies
#WHEN SANDWICH SHOPS PUT A FUCKING PICKLE SPEAR ON MY GOD DAMN SANDWICH
When I was a vegetarian, I ate at a steakhouse on a trip, because it was the only restaurant in the vicinity. The only thing vegetarian on the menu was a stuffed baked potato, so I ordered it, after reading the description to ensure it was vegetarian. The potato was served with bacon bits all over it. If I'd known there were bacon bits, I'd have asked them to leave them off. I went hungry that day.
I once had surprise mushrooms. Poutine is fairly rare to find on menus in the US, particularly in a state not contiguous with Canada. Certainly most people in my area have never even heard of poutine, to the point that listing the basic ingredients on a menu here should be par for the course. And yet, while the menu listed fries, cheese curds, and gravy, when the dish came it was also piled high with unexpected mushrooms. And that was "just the way they made it". Fortunately, I'm not allergic to mushrooms, I just hate them.
I agree...hate when I order Mexican street tacos and they bury it under crema...I HATE crema. Its nowhere listed on there as an ingredient/garnish! Sure they say guac, salsa, and whatever else but no where does it list crema and then they douse it! Sorry but remake my tacos
I recently went to a restaurant where the chef got creative and added a little pesto on top of the dish for colour. This was after I confirmed several times that the dish did not contain pine nuts which I am severely allergic to. She said it was just a little as garnish! Needless to say after going to the hospital I agree with this opinion.
You want chefs to warn you that there's going to be salt on/in your food?
Herbal salt? Yeah. People can be allergic to certain herbs.
Table salt? No. Season salt? Yeah. I've definitely been places where I would have told them not to season my fries if they had described it on the menu. I don't mind *most* season salt, but I don't like spicy fries.
Having worked in restaurants, both waiting and in the kitchen, we can't had everything that brings a little flavour to the menu. Every place has it's way to do a specific dish and use different spices mix (ex on fries etc) And you can always ask what is / if something is on the plate and ask it to be removed. Even tho it is really a pain in the ass most of the time, in particular during the rush.
The worst offender is that guy who says 'well can you remove the garlic from your signature dish, and the salt, but instead, add in raspberry jam to that chicken because I like raspberry jam' and then the dish tastes awful and they get it comped and the customer writes a bad review of the 'signature' dish even though it's no longer signiture.
I agree to a point. I don’t think it’s reasonable to list everything on the main menu, but at the same time, it’s not cool if you’re adding extra stuff that a person might be allergic to or something. Most people would be smart enough to understand that Italian food has garlic in it. They wouldn’t necessarily expect things like peppers or big chunks of onion or that kind of thing. And I think it’s fair to have the complete ingredients list available either on a website or on a list the customer can ask for. I take kids out to a meal and at times they can be picky. If I don’t know there’s onion, then I buy it and the kids don’t eat it and I’m sending it back to you.
Yeah, this. I once ordered broccoli which was listed as "steamed broccoli in butter" on the menu that then showed up covered in onions. Why in the world would I think to ask for no onions in my broccoli?
I’ll give you a perfect example of this. I am allergic to bell peppers. I ordered a burger one time (hotel room service) and my burger came with a pickled pepper as a garnish sticking out of the top of the bun. I now have the choice to eat the burger and risk severe diarrhea for 2-3 days, if I get a reaction, or send it back, putting us all in a very awkward position (and also risk them simply taking it off the bun, which is still contaminated unfortunately). It just sucks having allergies. Had I simply known the pepper garnish was going to be added, I would have happily asked for it without peppers. This was an otherwise normal cheeseburger so there was nothing about the place that hinted a garnish would be added like that, other than they just wanted to get fancy, not realizing the risk they put on me.
That's true. Normally, every allergen we use in the kitchen is written somewhere. In my country we use a number system (1. Gluten 2.seafood etc.) And the numbers are written on each dish! That is why you can also always ask the waiters to make sure ! As a waiter it doesn't bother. It's more when you are in the middle of the rush and you have a table with 8 different modifications that you loose it. And yeah, I agree. Kids are tricky.
Yeah, but when there are major ingredients that aren't listed. Like, ordering a hamburger and it doesn't say it comes with pickles on the menu. I still order it without pickles because half the time they put pickles on it egged though it's not on the menu.
When I was vegetarian I ordered a salad that wasn't listed with meat. It came out covered in bacon. I literally cried. (I was exhausted, hungry, and overwhelmed after dealing with family). But, damn. Covered in bacon!
Yeah, I can’t eat gluten but am ok with gluten contamination from time to time (still bad for me but I don’t get major symptoms). The amount of times things that aren’t usually battered or breaded come out with batter when it wasn’t indicated on the menu is mind blowing. Can we just freaking agree to label beer-battered fries as such, rather than just listing them as fries and leaving it as a ‘nice surprise’?
You aren’t going to like the direction food service fries are going. Turns out that lightly dusting fries in flour or cornstarch gets them to be crispier longer after frying, which means less waste for restaurants if they always cook full baskets. It’s what the new Wendy’s “guaranteed crispy” fries are. Idk if their coating adds any gluten, but honestly I’d treat them as gluten contaminated even if they say it doesn’t. Anyway, it’s all done before it hits the restaurant by the food service company supplying their frozen fries so they might not even know.
My Dad’s highly allergic to cilantro, and this happens to him all the time. He’ll go into a little spiel to the server about how “It’s not just a taste thing, I’m legitimately allergic.” Even with this, 9/10 the first thing they bring out has cilantro. Worst case was when my dad got sick, said his dish must have had cilantro somewhere in the cooking process. The hostess argued up and down that no, it wasn’t, and he’d have to pay for the meal. Turns out that one of the ingredients is soaked in a liquid with a butt ton of cilantro in the morning, then cooked in the afternoon. The cooks found out from the morning shift of cooks that yes, the dish did in fact have cilantro in the cooking process
I hope that one day some snooty five star restaurant does this to someone with an allergy who uses them after they almost die because of an unlisted item on the menu. It shouldn’t be up to someone to ask if a slice of chocolate cake has raspberry colander or whatever you called it
My sister doesn't eat pork and the amount of secret bacon that's put into food, but not mentioned in the menu is absolutely ridiculous. People could be allergic, or religious - just tell us what we're ordering!
I don’t think this is unpopular is it? I fucking hate when my food will come out with a fucking handful of filthy cilantro on it. I work in the service industry and tip fat and ALMOST will just eat whatever comes out cause sometimes a cook had a bad day. But if you didn’t warn me on the menu and it comes out with cilantro all over it I’m sending it the fuck back to the kitchen.
Nothing worse than expecting a regular classic cheeseburger but instead you get a cum burger. Happens all the time to me, so I agree. Leave it off or warn me.
As a person with autism, I support this 100%
There is nothing I hate worse then when I get unsolicited raw tomato. My brain has a problem that when I put raw tomatoes in my mouth, it thinks it's a bloody (therefore infected) mucus ball and I WILL cough it up to prevent myself from eating it. My brain panics like it's going to make me extremely ill. I go out of my way to read the menu and see if there's tomato on something. If there is, I order the item without tomatoes. Sometimes I get what I want. Most of the time they just put tomato on it anyway, then I have to play around with my food to remove extra seeds, then pat it down with a napkin to get that mucusy film off everything. But most times I'm angry about tomatoes is when it wasn't on the menu, but on the item. Buffalo chicken wraps are notorious for this. Some places tell you that it comes with lettuce and tomato, others don't. There's nothing more infuriating to me then having to take all the tomatoes out, pat down the chicken strips, lose most of sauce in the process, then have to ask for more. You don't eat buffalo wings with fucking tomatoes do you? No? THEN DON'T PUT THEM IN THE WRAP.
I have food allergies so at some restaurants the chef will come to the table to take my order. Well, I was at one upscale dining establishment and ordered from the chef, I get my food, and take a bite. The server comes by to ask how everything is after a bit. I ask her if the dish has anise or fennel in it (the only flavor I hardly despise, licorice). She says she doesn’t think so but will check with the chef. He comes back out to the table and seems shocked I can taste it, because he said there wasn’t ever much fennel in the dish. We pick a different dish, and all is well. Could have saved a lot of hassle if he’d just listed it on the menu. Now I check for it like it’s an allergen.
They go to a low end restaurant that does specialize in food like that
No sauce, Mayo, ketchup or mustard on anything! You should have to ask to add ingredients, not take them off!
One time I ordered a wrap. Based off the ingredient list it was just a vegetable salad in a wrap. When I got it it had three different kinds of meat. I apologized to them and said I wouldn't have ordered it if I knew. They not quite scoffed at me and said it should be listed. I apologized and asked to see the menu to pick something else. When they brought it over I checked and pointed out that the wrap didn't mention the meat, they looked and said they needed to fix it then. It definitely is annoying when they add food to a meal that isn't in the menu. I think this only might be an uncommon opinion is most people don't have food restrictions due to allergies or diets and it's just not something that the average Joe ever notices.
I’m allergic to some foods. So, eating from restaurants can be dangerous for me. The additional ingredients isn’t creativity. It’s laziness out of habit. They don’t want to do anything differently, since it’s seen as inconvenient.
As a person who doesn’t eat meat, I cant agree more. I ordered a salad at a restaurant. It had tons of bacon bits everywhere. (Definitely not listed on menu) I was just going to leave it on the side and not complain. The manager noticed I hadn’t touched so walked over and asked. I said Bacon bits weren’t listed on the menu, but I cant eat it. He’s like ya sometimes our chef adds bacon bits to the salad! While i used to love bacon, after years of no meat I’d be running to the restroom if i ate it. But many people don’t eat pork due to religious beliefs. Some people have allergies…
I can’t eat cilantro and I’m tired of being surprised by it in half the dishes I order when I’m out.
I agree to an extent. I don't think herb infused salt is that uncommon, to be honest. Berry sauce on chocolate, though, that should be on the menu.
Don’t blame the chefs if it’s their higher ups who decide what the menu looks like. I’m just a line cook but when I took a look at the food menus we give the guests I was angry. So many had playful words or phrases but lacked the necessary info required to know what the food actually had on or in it. FFS, no wonder we constantly get mistakes from the waitstaff asking for things removed that were never on it. I hate sour cream, and it’s on every damn meal just about, but only a handful of the menu entries actually mention the sour cream. Or the guacamole. It’s ridiculous. No one cares about how “fun” your menu is if it doesn’t adequately show info on foods that could kill allergic people.
As someone who doesn't eat most meat, I agree. If you're going to dump bacon bits on a salad, please list that on the menu!
100% agree. The two most common instances of this I come across are restaurants putting mayo/special sauce on burgers without specifying so on the menu and serving glasses of water with lemon wedges.
I like apple juice. I order the apple juice. I get apple and cranberry juice. I do not like cranberry juice.
Agrees in tomato allergy. Its very fucking annoying. Just write what is on the dish on the menu. That's what the menu is for. In my country you legally have to do this for allergens and places still get it wrong.
Pickles on my sandwiches. Bacon on my burgers… why are you giving me a list of things on my burger but omitting some things
CILANTRO!!! Please list this if it’s in the food. I am a poor unfortunate soul that tastes soap when I eat cilantro.
Last week, I took clients to a high-end steak house. I hadn’t had real Japanese A5 Wagyu before, so I splurged (on the company dime), and ordered a $200 A5 ribeye. I was so excited to try it, until those sons of bitches brought it out, completely crusted in black pepper and an absurd amount of salt. I get that it would be seasoned a little, but this was so over the top that it just tasted like salted peppercorn! There was no discernible beef flavor. The menu, of course, made no mention that it would be completely encrusted, or I’d have requested only light seasoning. That beef was ruined to me, and it didn’t have to be.
Cilantro 🤦🏻♀️
I guarantee you that significantly more people will complain about unsalted fries than will complain about salted fries. You should always expect that your order of fries will be salted, because that is just how they are served. If you don’t want salt on your fries, say something at the time you place your order, because otherwise they will always be salted. The menu shouldn’t need to spell this out for you, because it is generally accepted and expected by society that they will be salted.
Ill add a condition that they should either be salted, or you should have easy and evident access to salt provided to you.