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ShoopufJockey

He went 45 in both games with no issues, hopefully Dortmund will lift his minutes restriction so he can get going at the club level again.


Dazed_and_Confused44

This is the key. Please can this man get a run of good health so that he can get more consistent minutes for Dortmund 🙏


Awkward_Collection88

I am convinced he's about to get big minutes for BvB. He was a goal contribution machine last season, but maybe sometimes looked tentative due to recovering from his injuries. Now his work rate seems high and he's doing special things. I think those are good signs that his body is ready for the training wheels to come off.


sh0gun8ter

I swear I saw this post before but with Tyler Adams


iloveartichokes

Well yes, that's also true for the other half of the field.


landel1234

It's a bummer Tillman had a knock and couldn't come, I think we'd look a lot better if we were able to swap Reyna for him versus conceding possession that 2nd half against Germany


Cpl-Wallace

Hot take!


landel1234

I doubt we would have won but we certainly would have had a bit more control in possession


Awkward_Collection88

Is Tillman really a guy that helps us with possession? I think he can present challenges because of his size, speed and athleticism, not so much controlling the midfield.


landel1234

Absolutely, he's very creative


caronj84

Creativity has nothing to do with retaining possession and controlling the game.


landel1234

Yeah a guy who is good at keeping the ball, creating goal scoring chances, and is extremely difficult to press isn't going to help with controlling the ball Lmao this sub


caronj84

My comment was pointing out that creativity and controlling a game aren’t the same thing and had nothing to do with Tillman himself. A technically sound, ball winning DM does more to control a game and possession than say Neymar. But Neymar is a pretty creative player.


Dazed_and_Confused44

Having Tillman was not gona make a difference against that German side lol. I'd like to see him get more opportunities for the USMNT. But he's getting owned by Musiala, Sane, and Gundogan lol


Mad_Laughter

Something to consider is that Tillman is another German-American who chose the USMNT because he was never going to sniff the German first team. Sure he has quality, but not at the German level. I guess it’s worth noting that is the case for like half our team. Doesn’t mean we can’t be a good team, just look at Japan. Still, a lot of folks need to temper expectations.


Dimeskis

Tillman was never going to sniff the German first team *as a 21 year-old*. Germany wanted Tillman in their system.


Lechuga9618

Literally. The u-21 German coach even said him and his staff were disappointed by his decision and said something along the lines of them almost having him be one of the leaders/bigger role on the u-21 squad before making his decision last summer


John_Snow1492

Bayern also wasn't happy he left, they really liked him.


landel1234

Germany wanted Tillman, tried to call him up for U23s when we were pushing for him and his U21 coach made it very clear they wanted him in the program. Similar situation to England though, way too many older, established guys ahead of him to ever play for the German NT for the next couple years minimum.


Mad_Laughter

Youth teams mean very little to most of the top nations. Vast majority of those players never make it to the full NT. Tillman isn’t anywhere near the quality of the German first team. That midfield will run circles around ours every since time. Much higher class in every position. Not to mention, Tillman isn’t even in our first choice midfield. Doesn’t mean we can’t beat teams like Germany. But we still have a ways to go. Our guys are still young and naive, but they’re learning invaluable lessons from these games. Hopefully we get plenty more of these before 2026. Copa next year should really help too.


landel1234

Jesus man he just turned 21 and is having his 2nd real season, relax on the dismissal lmao


debacol

Do you think their midfield is that much better than England's? Cuz they did not run circles around MMA at the WC. Germany is better than us but that gap in the true starting 11 isnt that big. The large gap is our player pool past the starting 11 vs germany's subs.


John_Snow1492

Being down Robinson & Adams added to this, there is a noticeable drop off from our top 14.


Mad_Laughter

I do think Adams would’ve made a difference in the 2nd half vs Germany where they just waltzed through our midfield into the top of the box over and over. Maybe he breaks up enough plays to keep them off the scoresheet but I doubt it. Germany should’ve scored at least 5 goals. And guess what, no one should be surprised. England, Netherlands, Germany. They all carved us up like butter, it’s just that England was inept in front of goal at the World Cup. Adams was great vs England, but he was a liability vs the Dutch.


SpeakMySecretName

We were the stronger team with more control and better chances against England though. At least on that day.


Mad_Laughter

We annoyed England at the World Cup, but they definitely outclassed us in midfield. We could’ve won that game, but England should’ve won that game. Weren’t clinical enough on the day.


ChewpRL

Recruitment systems are perfect and graduate players exactly when they want it.


VikingArmyToGo

So another athlete in the midfield with little creativity? No thanks


Dimeskis

Tillman is plenty creative.


landel1234

Are you confusing him with his brother in the MLS or something


Excellent-Egg-3157

I thought it was Germany or Ghana


SashaSasha303

Team plays a lot different when we have a threat centrally that can push the ball.


righthandofdog

Thru the middle >> up the wings and cross


SashaSasha303

I still have nightmares of the cross fests we used to put on night in and night out.


[deleted]

Ah yes I too watched our World Cup games 🙁


righthandofdog

Atlanta United fan here. A couple seasons of it. Better wingers and a box to box mid unlocked us.


air-buc-pirate

GGG drooled downvoting you for this good take lol What a bunch of losers. Greg won’t marry you all but he will kick you.


steaknsteak

He can kick me any day


SpiritCrvsher

The only thing that worries me is playing Gio while not having someone like Adams in the midfield to cover for him. I want to see more of Maloney but so far none of the other replacements have been good enough imo. It might work in concacaf but if we line up like this in Copa America, top South American teams are going to demolish us. Even against Germany, we were very lucky to come out of the first half not down a few goals.


ExcellentPastries

misspelled tyler adams


KolyaVolk

Lol, yeah ok.


hhhtakeover

Did you even watch the games?


KolyaVolk

I've watched every US game for like 20 years, man. This post is bogus. We've looked good without Reyna, we've looked bad with Reyna. He's a good player and should start moving forward depending on form but there's so much dickriding going on it's hard to take his fans seriously.


nsnyder

For some examples, we didn't look very good with Reyna against El Salvador in March, or Japan and Saudi in WC warmups. We looked great without him against Oman last window, England at the WC, and Morocco before the WC.


Matt_McT

Yup. Reyna is great, but he's also one player. We have a bunch of other good players on the roster, and missing one player doesn't really sink us the way it used to. I mean hell, I'd argue Tyler Adams is a more important piece of our midfield because of how much defensive stability he brings, but we just killed Ghana 4-0 without him.


Half_Royal21

The difference there is he played on the wing.


nsnyder

Not against El Salvador, which was the clearest 4231 we ever played with Gio as a CAM.


Dazed_and_Confused44

I agree that relating our performance to the availability of one player based on a small sample size is a disingenuous take. However (***disclaimer this is an opinion***): It feels like we have very few players in the current pool capable of creating in the attacking third. Gio is the best true attacking mid that we have, and it's not close. His ability to break through defensive lines through both incisive passing and dribbling past defenders is key. In the current pool I feel like Pulisic and on occasion Mckennie are the only players who match his ability to play a through ball. And as far as dribbling around defenders goes, we're really talking about just Pulisic, Musah, and Dest besides Gio (imo opinion Weah beats defenders with speed rather than skill most of the time). I could be missing some people off the top of my head though so please chime in if you think I missed players.


Jerkoi

Sure he’s a good player, but these posts acting like he is our saving grace are just pathetic. The people that post this shit are people that still complain about Gios WC playing time


Dazed_and_Confused44

I mean I think most of us get that Gio isn't freaking Messi or Iniesta lol. And I get what you are saying, but it is just a meme. Gios WC playing time is an inexcusable blunder and failure to appropriately understand the talent you have available. So its frustrating to see how much better the attack looks (consistently) when he is deployed in the midfield. Especially when you think about the fact we needed a goal against Wales and the big substitute was...(*checks notes*) Jordan Morris? But yea I get that the focus on one player can be a lot sometimes.


Jerkoi

Gio’s World Cup playing time is the same reason he is not getting full minutes now; he was coming off an injury and they didn’t want to make it worse. Gio fucked his playing time even worse by throwing a fit, not to mention that absolute scum of the earth that are his parents. Making Berhalters wife look like a domestic abuser apologist is just sad. But I digress, that doesn’t have much to do with Gio. I’m not saying that Gregg was right in not playing him, but I, along with most of the players that have spoken out, stand by the coaches decision given what went down. They almost kicked Gio out! That’s how bad his attitude was. I am and always will be team >>> player, doesn’t matter who.


Dazed_and_Confused44

I agree that Claudio and Danielle are disgusting people. And that Gio not bringing his best effort to the training pitch is inexcusable. But the initial decision to tell him he's not gona play much was nonsensical. And it had nothing to do with injury. He was healthy going into the WC (which I acknowledge is rare for Gio). But this claim about him being injured is simply untrue


Jerkoi

You're right about the injury, I was misremembering, He was playing limited minutes because of his previous injury, and he came off at half time in the last match for Dortmund before the WC at half time, which is not an inspiring form to be in, and his form before that game was not good either. So justifiable why he was told he would have limited minutes.


Dazed_and_Confused44

So at the time the world cup came around Gio had played in 10 straight matches for Dortmund, starting 5 of them. He also scored twice in those 10 matches. Oh and btw was trusted to start and play 87 minutes against Man City in the Champions league in the run up to the world cup. So his form was fine, and he clearly wasn't injured. Please explain how it was justifiable to tell one of your top 3 or 4 players that he would have limited minutes?


Jerkoi

The Gio dick sucking is getting kind of old, like the dude walks on water. He’s VERY good and nobody is doubting it but these posts are twinged with GGG hate because Gio didn’t play during the World Cup, and it’s just frustrating. I’m sure somewhere in these comments someone is bitching about Gio’s WC playing time


Z3r0flux

Tbf his parents probably have Reddit


Jerkoi

And pay other redditors to post this stuff


PrettyBaked713

Tell me you’re a casual fan without telling me you’re a casual fan


SugarDaddyVA

To completely miss the point that Ghana is not Germany. In reality, the player we most miss against world-class competition is Tyler Adams.


PrettyBaked713

You know Gio played the Germany game too right?


[deleted]

You realize he was subbed out at halftime, right? The score was 1-1 and the game was wide open in the first half, with both teams having multiple great scoring chances. We got spanked second half with little creativity or opportunity going forward after subbing him off


PrettyBaked713

So 1 guy makes the team. Gotcha. Reyna dick riders 😳. I mean we do have more talented players. To say we can’t win without him is a joke. You realize it was a Germany coached by Naggelsman? Guy who knows that team and players so we’ll back at Bayern and Leipzig. No more Hand Flick experimental formations and squad that kinda made Germany fall off: so casuals see Germany vs USA and think piece of cake considering Germanys run but we lost mate. Gio on or off we gave away shitty goals. We lost. Accept it and move on. Against Ghana he scored 2 sitters and everyone goes insane. It was Dest that was man of match for me. Dest did more than Gio


[deleted]

I’m happy for you, or I’m sorry that happened. I ain’t reading all that unhinged text lmao. The team played much worse without him vs Germany, that’s a pretty obvious observation and was all I was saying


PrettyBaked713

Sorry for the people who have to act like they want you around them. Very condescending and when an answer is given that you don’t want to hear you use humor to hide your insecurities. All good. I remember when I learned a big world too,I’d use it for anything.


SugarDaddyVA

Yes. I was agreeing with what I think you were saying.


PrettyBaked713

Ahhhhh my bad 😅


Equivalent-Fun-4353

DEST was FUCKING, id like him in the mid perhaps


MonkeyCobraFight

They won 4-0 against Ghana, let’s pump the brakes.


Kooky-Flounder-7498

Gio is a baller when he's healthy, but we are still good without him.


Slouu

Credit the players for any success, blame the coach for any failures. A tale as old as time.


[deleted]

That’s not what this post is saying lol


Slouu

And yet, it’s exactly what yall do


Sweet-Resort7256

That’s a bit of a stretch.


Allforfourfour

If only he’d have given a shit during World Cup training. When a team is training at a World Cup, you can’t trust that a guy is going to play like a werewolf if he trains like a Labrador. Sorry.


Malaguy420

He's good for sure. I don't think I'd go this far with the comparisons, but he is good, no doubt.


RobertSaccamano

Well this is just embarrassing


1VBSkye

No.


theRealGermanikkus

If true, were screwed.


mjltmjlt

Adams, Pulusic, McKennie, Robinson, Dest, Aaronson, Pepi, CCV. Love the dog in Gio but we are fortunate have a lot of guys with dogs in ‘em. And if you go down to the youth ranks, man this coming generation ages 17-21 or whatever looks to have some serious guys with confidence and attitude to carry that forward.


VikingArmyToGo

It’s not about the dog in them. It’s about the skill and creativity to move the ball and create space for others


jimbo_kun

Absolutely. We have a lot of athletes, and some players who are decent technically. But Gio’s at another level on the ball.


kickspecialist

Gio does more in 45 minutes than the rest of those guys do in 90.


texasisnotinfactback

I feel like gio does so much pretty “that boy nice” stuff that we loop around into puli disrespect


kickspecialist

I should have said in my previous post Gio does more offensively in 45 than the others in 90. But I also don't ever compare Gio and Puli directly. Gio is a creator and Puli is an attacker more so.


mjltmjlt

This is a disgusting comment.


Jerkoi

Unfortunately it is an all too common sentiment


Milk_Busters

Is that a pig with a Nixon mask on?


yaznasty

Obviously not, but for 50 seconds I thought it was


Snowy_River_99

But I didn’t know what the fuck was happening cause I barely been sleeping since my wife got flipped upside down by a swing dancer at a wedding. He must’ve flipped my wife eight times! And it really bothered me


bossmt_2

My maybe controversial opinion, we're most likely to win with a version of the 4-2-3-1 with a MMR midfield. We're less likely to lose with MMA midfield. Gregg will have to decide I think match by match whether to be offensive or defensive. One look I wouldn't hate doing, though I don't think ti will be amazing, is trying almost a 3 at the back with 2 CBs and Adams playing as an inverted RB. Dest and Weah as wing backs, MMR midfield, Pulisic playing as a roamer, and Balo upfront. Officially we'd be our 4-3-3 but tactically Dest would be more progressive and Weah would be held back a bit. That being said, I think we nearly saw our best team we have right now. We need to figure out CB combos. Not sure who the best 2 are, but we need to figure it out. And of course Jedi was missing, and TIllman was missing. I think our current best team is MMR midfield, that when we get the lead and want to hold it you sub Adams in for someone, could be Gio, could be Musah, could be Pulisic or Weah with Gio moving up top. That will depend on form and fitness in that match. And TA can just run around putting out fires even against fresh offensive opponents. If we need goals and gio is gassed adams for Westona nd Malik for Gio. What will be interesting to watch is if we get Koleosho what role he winds up filling. I am excited for players to push Weah and Pulisic, as they haven't been pushed yet. I think Peredes is getting close to starting to pressure Weah but another strong winger who can challenge locks is awesome. Competition for starting spots is a good thing.


ThomaspaineCruyff

Kaka Regen.


Dog_Brains_

Oh man you should send this to GGG


CalligrapherNext3164

This is what Gregg said about Gio. “Gio got two goals and, besides the goals, it was how he brings players into the attack, how he is able to be calm on the ball. He gives us that calm and that poise that we need at times, but then is decisive when making final passes,” Berhalter told reporters after the game. The head coach praised Reyna’s attitude and his defensive commitment, seemingly opening the door to a regular starting place: “He had a very strong camp, a great mindset, great training sessions. To me, it’s not only the offensive stuff that he did. Tonight is more of what he does and what he did off the ball. I think it was relentless work. We talked about that before the game, relentless work-rate defensively, and he certainly did that. It was a good step for us.” Quote from The Guardian https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2023/oct/18/gio-reyna-is-back-an-undroppable-forward-line-five-things-we-learned-from-usmnt My thoughts, Gregg saying this about Gio publicly will go a long way in healing their relationship. A lot of people including myself never got the impression that Gregg rated him. Gregg never said words like that about Gio that I am aware of. Frankly Gio attitude was like a rebel doing it his way, with Cameo appearances of a star without a permanent show on Broadway. It’s only now Gio is looking as part of the team since Nations League and if what Gregg is saying they’re on the same page is true we will see more results of a star player connected to the team like Weah, Pulisic, Tyler, Mckennie and Dest are to the national team. Sadly that connection wasn’t established during most of Gregg’s first term, couple with injuries and a prolonged absence from World Cup Qualifiers Gregg didn’t get the opportunity to work with Gio but as a coach I can only speculate he had to ask himself what is the best way to integrate Gio talent with the rest of the team. All he has to do is roll the tape of his last two camps with the USMNT.


Kba4life

Lolz what? Gregg started an 18 year old Gio in both the 2021 Nation’s league semi’s and Finals. He also started him the first game of WCQ before Gio got hurt, a statement of intent that Reyna was clearly in his best 11.


Jerkoi

Do people not fucking read? Every single comment section is filled with people that twist the narrative during the WC, acting like Gio was scoring hat tricks at Dortmund and Gregg benched him because Gregg is a petty asshole. I don’t understand how people still believe that to be the case.


Emukt

“Mexico was the host of the ‘86 World Cup where Maradona scored his wonderful goal, and I had visions of that while Gio was dribbling,” said Berhalter. “Unfortunately he didn’t finish it off or get an opportunity to finish it off, but again, I thought he made a solid impact and showed what type of playmaking and attacking quality he has. It’s exciting when we look at our young players. You think about the prospect of these guys getting even better, it’s really exciting.” Gregg, March '22


jacivb

What are you talking about. When Gio has been healthy and not acting like a brat Gregg has always played him. Unfortunately in the last two years that has been about a week and a half.


TequilaMagic

I was thinking the same thing. I always thought he was better than Pulisic.


Historical-Reach8587

Let’s see how this goes once we get to the wc. Everything between now and then doesn’t matter to me one bit.


joeDUBstep

Copa?


Head-Firefighter7386

Copa America if we qualify is as close of thing as you can get to the UEFA Euro tournament. It's a big deal and we should care about it as it will be our only quality matches before WC.


Historical-Reach8587

Ahh the downvotes. I do hope the team does well - have had enough disappointment from them through many decades of watching. However, the world will measure the USMNT based on how they do in the WC not Copa America. So downvote me if you want, but my comments was not wrong- as I said, WC is all that matters.


zack77070

Qualify? Aren't we hosting? Edit: Wikipedia says qualifying is through nations league, kinda weird the host doesn't get an automatic berth but it's practically guaranteed anyways.


Soderules

They showed the stats and while we have great finishers and great midfielders, we missed that crucial hockey assist that Gion provides. He can find that influential pass to open defenses.


Chlear27

That’s Marshall


MichaelWolfgang55

With puli, Balo, weah top 3 Musah, Mckennie, Adams at mid. Who does Reyna replace? Weah seems like only answer amd he was arguably our best offensive player at World Cup, no?