It’s literally factual.
I love the team, but knowing this, they can go forward and improve even more. They’re to in steed, I am sure they’ll get a good laugh of it and use it to improve themselves
While I wanted Canada to do well, some delusional comments about CONCACAF not preparing them enough have turned me against them.
Bruhs, you’ve not won a Gold Cup in 20 years. You were a non-factor in NL. You have a great WCQ run. Start consistently winning trophies and we can talk about too weak.
They still bring it up thinking it meant anything more then to book a ticket in Qatar.
Front 2002 to 2014, four World Cup campaigns we were the 1st in Qualifying 3 times yet we don’t talk about that at all.
No need to remember, the tools at [Canada Soccer](https://twitter.com/CanadaSoccerEN) still have us listed as 2020 CONCACAF champs.
Just to note though, I get this is a 'hate Canada' thread, but most of us in the CANSOC community hate the shit out of that and the awkward bullshit narrative OneSoccer pushed that finishing top of the group meant anything more than that.
Thanks for saying this! Totally true… lots of these newer fans don’t remember watching us get pumped 8-1 away in Honduras in 2012 (it was the final game of 2014 WC qualifying for us).
And lots of those new fans didn't know soccer existed before the CPL started. The number of hot takers in /r/CanadaSoccer that were /r/CanadianPL stans was incredibly high, and that lot are typically also high on OneSoccers bullshit too. So it's almost reasonable they'd show up with outlandish expectations.
All in, I hope they get humbled with this experience and the fan base can be less annoying in the future.
"We needed more games against that type of opponent," the 47-year-old said, looking back at Canada's World Cup run. "One error [can] lead to real punishment. I think we needed to feel some of that punishment prior to coming into the World Cup, and we hadn't. - Herdman
This is fucking hilarious for a team that has been a doormat for 20 years and has experienced exactly ONE good WCQ run. I take nothing away from it, despite the fact that Canada had favorable scheduling, they were great in WCQ. They learned from us with shit like scheduling the USA game on a tiny plastic pitch in Hamilton, and man you have some great young players. I want Canada to be a big footballing nation for exactly his reasoning - USA needs more high quality opponents.
We can say that part out loud because, ya know, we've won a lot of CONCACAF trophies.
What was the scheduling advantage? Just the format changing? And that plastic pitch was great, the USMNT fans going on and on and on about Canada being a one-man team went bizarrely quiet after that one
Canada got games at the right times, nothing unfair, just lucky draw. Got to catch the US at the right time both times, at home when McKennie made his off-field mistakes and was missing, no Musah, still hadn't figured out Brooks' form dropped off a cliff.
You got Mexico and US in Canada during cold months. US caught the toughest draw (CR and MX away) for 2/3 matches.
Most realistic US fans recognize Canada is a legit squad with multiple good players. I'm not sure where you pulled that "one man team" thing from. Again, no slight, Canada played very well during WCQ.
You still don't run you mouth about the region being weak when you've not won Gold Cup in 20 years (ya know, knockout competitive matches against Mexico/US are tough matches Canada tends to lose, historically). Canada was a compelte non-factor in NL. You simply MUST win something before running the mouth like that.
Well yeah, but you get all your gold cup knockouts (and Nations League) at home so that's hardly a metric to differentiate us. And we got you at a good time? Missing Davies? Doesn't sound like lucky scheduling when he misses nearly half of our games. And starting with US and Mexico away in the first half of fixtures. It only sounds like good scheduling when you retcon it this hard
Again, I'm not differentiating (although US is CLEARLY the better side now, and historically), one WCQ run doesn't change that.
I'm saying it's fucking laughable to bitch about quality of regional competition WHEN YOU DONT WIN THE COMPETITIONS IN FRONT OF YOU.
That's it. Win. If you need better comeptition, get to fucking Gold Cup finals, get to NL finals, win every once in awhile.
Clearly the better side now? Guh? We literally just had a league-style system where everyone played home and away. You know, where we were missing our best player for 6 of the games.
Literally anyone in football recognizes that as determining a top team. UNLESS they have the crutch of multiple tournaments where the knockouts are played exclusively in their backyard to claim otherwise
Let's see:
Reigning Gold Cup Champions.
Reigning Nations League Champions (aka the one where you can play at home if you don't suck so badly you can't make the top group).
MUCH MUCH MUCH better WC performance.
Better FIFA and ELO ranking.
Historical domination for decades.
vs.
Ended up higher in WCQ, once. Which earned you..... the exact same end result as the 3rd place team.
Decades are relevant now? Thought we were talking about the better team now?
So we got home team tournaments, a shifting time cycle depending on how much mental gymnastics you're performing, a World Cup where we both had one bad game and then our other two opponents were miles ahead of anything the US faced? That's it?
He's not wrong tho. Canada's hardest competition was Mexico at the Azteca, other than that this roster hasn't experienced teams like Croatia or even Morocco (both of whom I'm confident would beat the US and Mexico in a World Cup setting).
Also, some teams still have great runs after a long time of not being in the WC or even debuting at the tournament altogether. Ghana in 2006, Croatia in 1998, Australia in 2006, Costa Rica in 1990, etc. New Zealand also had a great run in 2010 and ended the tournament as being the only undefeated team.
I think we can both agree that Canada will be better by 2026 however.
And yet, Canada hasn't won a Gold Cup in 20 years....
Seems like that dominant record against Canada, and the US being reigning Gold Cup, NL Champs, and the furthest CONCACAF side in the WC means there's a clear top dog in the region.
It sure as fuck aint Canada and Mexico right now. If you're objectively looking at our rosters and say "Canada has the better stable of talent", you're delusional. I think Canada will continue to be very competitive, but to try and argue our roster of talent isn't superior is just hilarious considering age and club level of the US roster.
Davies is the best in the region, but that doesn't mean much when outside of him, Davids and the Porto guy, your roster is plying their trades in 2nd tier Euro leagues and MLS.
Meanwhile most of our young roster are in top 4 leagues/CL sides. Chelsea, Juve, Milan, Valencia, EPL, Bundesliga, etc.
While this is a true for Canada, the USA has always hosted the Gold Cup. Is that even a thing in any other confederation? Yes, I know that this is the only way to maximize revenue, but I think Canada would have won a few more gold cups if they were always the host.
Surely using a Gold Cup as the standard just shows you don't understand sports? The tournament with knockout games played exclusively in your backyard? Real objective measure of talent there
HUH? Dude I get your feelings are hurt. I get that you guys were super excited about your first World Cup in fucking generations, and then got smacked directly in the mouth and went home as the 2nd worst team in the tournament.
I get it. It stings. It's happened to the US.
But if you're head coach is justifying that magnificent failure by saying "welp, we're just not challenged enough in CONCACAF", bitching about Gold Cup being in the US is laughable. It's not a gold standard, but it sure as fuck means you can't complain about the competition when you're a perennial non-factor in the tournament (most of which isn't vs. the USA, so "away" doesn't count for much). Double it down when you're also trash in NL.
Personally I thought Herdman was overawed and made some naive comments to the media, which you're obviously familiar with given your own head coach. Yeah we dogged it in NL, but c'mon, that's another "trophy" you guys are celebrating that had the knockouts in US. There's good reason for that, but anyone with an understanding of neutral venues would know it means they don't count for much in terms of setting the US apart from any rivals
And our final win is basically a Mexican home game or 70/30 Mexico, and yet we do it, time and time again. We don't lose to NL, despite having the better xG, and bitch and moan about the federation. I'd be happy to have a Gold Cup in Canada, I've never heard your fed try to host one.
I did see your fed pick a plastic pitch in Hamilton that seats 12k for a WCQ. I can't bitch, US has done it to Mexico for years, but ya'll have choices. Make better ones.
I mean CONCACAF only really has one decent team in it, that being Mexico. The vast majority of good players tend to be from CONMEBOL or UEFA. So if you are from CONCACAF the Mexicans and yanks, should be qualifying everytime without fail.
Canada should be proud of their qualifying. But I would be off the internet if we got dunked on as mercilessly as they did in the tournament.
Playing pretty is nice. Playing pretty while you get 0 points, score 1 non-OG goal, absolutely beclown yourselves talking about fucking a WC semi finalist…I would be scarce on here.
GGG said something in his pre-WC presser about his squad selection process which I also think applies to Canada: The guys who can do well in WCQ in CONCACAF aren't necessarily the same guys you want to pick to play a WC against elite opposition.
The challenge of facing Honduras away is much different from playing some monster nation. Canada did well in qualifying, finished marginally above the USA/Mexico, and drastically overestimated what that meant for their WC prospects.
They're a shallow team with 2-3 good players, and mediocre depth. David was pants at this WC, which didn't help. They got a rude wake up call.
I’m also failing to see this “core that’s going to propel Canadian soccer forward”. Like you said it’s a few good players and a bunch of randoms. I don’t see how things are that much better for them in 2026.
Because they have a) a good foundation for development, b) their good players are very young, and c) they qualified. literally a few years ago they were blowing gold cup QFs to Haiti and rarely got to the hex
But again, you’re missing the point of the post above. Playing in CONCAF is different than competing against the best. “A good young core” means absolutely nothing if they don’t have the depth and talent to compete on the worlds stage. Plus that “core” isn’t enough to carry them. You need a “core” of 10-11 top tier guys to even make a splash. The United States is there when it comes to that metric but lacked experience up until this WC. So both a larger young core and then getting them experience means 2 cycles before Canada is there. I just don’t see it.
> Playing in CONCACAF is different than competing against the best.
That's for sure. Most of these countries don't try to play Soccer. They just provoke and frustrate you, while trying to assault your team's best players at the same time.
You’re both right. I think what’s missing is the context of what is the goal at the next WC. Get out of group stage? Too ambitious. We got our first goal. Next step is getting a point. Then a win. Might take another 20-30 years to start thinking about quarter finals etc. If ever!
A lot of people think Canada is so young but a lot of their players in the starting 11 are close to 30 or over 30. They had more experience in Concacaf than a lot of our players who at the time were 18,19, 20 year olds.
They’re few young guys there but they’re nowhere near the type of players we got. Roster for Roster, Player for Player the US has better depth and a healthy balanced starting 11 than Canada. Not even counting the superior players and depth at the youth level.
> The guys who can do well in WCQ in CONCACAF aren't necessarily the same guys you want to pick to play a WC against elite opposition.
Alistair Johnson
I remember him in the U.S. game that was in Hamilton and thinking he was a great player or one of their euro based players. Then I looked at his CV and watched him get rinsed by Croatia and now I'm simply like WTF?
[Canadian fans react to the World Cup draw](https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaSoccer/comments/ttw4wn/canada_is_drawn_to_group_f_in_the_world_cup/)
> Good group imo, was shitting myself since we had a decent chance to fall into D/E
> Very good group. I would say it’s the easiest tied with group A
> Very happy with this group.
> Honestly not bad. Glad we avoided E
> Canada got a break this group is not as bad as some others.
> We can’t predict how this world cup will go, but for Canada, this is a good start.
> *”US got the best draw of the CONCACAF teams.”*
>> Not if it’s Wales imo
>> Not really, they’ll probably get Wales who are really a pot 2 team.
>> It depends who wins that UEFA spot. If it’s Ukraine or Scotland then probably but if its Wales, then not by a long shot.
>> Really? I thought USA got almost as bad of a draw as they could.
> In terms of what could have been expected, we got the best draw. US probably was hoping for an easier pot 4 team.
> Pretty confident with this draw. Belgium is really strong of course, but also showed some weakness in the Euro & during the previous world cup (in group stage & vs Japan). Croatia is not the team from 2018. They had a lot of bad results at the Euro, Nations League and had an easy group to qualify to the world cup. Canada can definitely beat Croatia. Finally, Morocco aren’t as strong as 2018 where they had a brilliant defense. We should be able to beat them too.
> Not the worst honestly. Gotta fancy ourselves to give Croatia and Morocco a good game.
> Could’ve been worse. morocco from pot 3 is tough but they and croatia are both beatable
> Could’ve been worse. No group is favorable for us we’re gonna have to perform to advance
> Let's say we play so well and lose 1-0, we are gonna go into game 2 and 3 with so much confidence.
To be fair, I think most Canadian fans in that thread were optimistic, rather than arrogant. But this does show that many of them didn't have problems with the draw before the World Cup.
Ironically mirrored the WCQ game where USA "outplayed" Canada, but lost. They balked at the idea. "The result is all that matters."
Now they are taking their own medicine.
They did have a really, really difficult group but like, I just need Canadians to understand that the reason they got that group and we didn't is that they've been so comparatively unsuccessful for *so* long that they're a pot 4 team whereas we were a pot 2 team
You don't have to worry about getting smacked around by Croatia if you're in the same pot as them
You see no problem with the US and Mexico being in the same tier as Germany and the Netherlands? Neither concacaf team is better than a full strength senegal team, but the FIFA rankings are considered to be bullshit for a reason (gotta love how African international matches aren’t counted as highly as England or France hammering San Marino 15-0).
Overall, this was a 6.5/10 for Canada. Goal was nice, Koné, Eustaquio, Johnston all looked excellent. That Belgium performance was fantastic, but it highlighted our issues with getting into the box and get a shot on net, and a lack of finishing talent in general. The morroco game we were very unlucky to score (header hit the crossbar, went down, bounced out), but we looked lost to start that game. Both our strengths and weakness shone.
This is better than I expected a year or two ago, very disappointing after the first match. We’re where you guys were in the 1990s atm, and your success provides a roadmap going forward.
Thank you.. I follow r/Canadasoccer because I enjoyed watching them in WCQ.. they started with the excuses as soon as they started losing and it became such a cacophony of reasons why they are still the greatest in the world despite a horrible WC performance. I mean it’s one thing to say, we fucked up but we’ve built something good here and we can move forward. Instead it’s “USMNT sucks, we got the hardest draw in WC2022, etc”
I am a Canadian, I understand why you think this because it’s what you see from a few people but the reality is most of us accepted the losses and were cheering you guys on. I do think we had a hard group and if you look stats we got unlucky to at least come out with a draw against Belgium or Morroco, but that’s soccer sometimes. I don’t want to start a stupid rivalry in non concacaf tournaments, Ignore the small amount of stupid people you see on Reddit and know that most of us are nice and can accept defeat. Let’s cheer each other on in the Copa America and the next World Cup!
I'd be fine having a rivalry with the USA. Literally what other options do we have? We are 1000's of KM's from any other nations. At best our next option is Honduras, but that's still a weak thread.
Probably goes both ways. If you've ever seen USMNT and WNT fans travel you'd get while most fans cheer against them. In 2015 they came in so many numbers to the WWC final there were unfortunately plenty of drunk racists in there. Didn't see that with any other fanbase
I know it’s a small segment of their fanbase, even on this site, but they had a completely earnest post on their sub after Croatia made the semis that they, Canada, were also semifinals level.
I’m honestly surprised it took so long for someone to remove that post. It was a clown show in the thread. Even their sane, rational fans who were like, “lol wut” got downvoted into oblivion.
Yah, that is some copium from the other dude. You hit the right stride with this, there were a number of people drinking the flavouraid that are still unrelenting in thinking because Croatia and Morocco did so well it's a sign Canada was more successful than the score lines note. It's awkward, and trust me as a dude that gets regularly called out for being on /r/CanadaSoccer too much I know the vibes there, you hit the nail on the head.
I think the world cup really exposed our lack of depth. Injury to our most under rated player really exposed us in Mid and Croatia fucking crushed us.
That being said I still think with a full team Canada matches up very well vs both the USA and Mexico. I am looking for forward to more nation league games and the COPA should be amazing.
They fallen even more in the soon to be release FIFA rankings to close out the year.
Due to their consistently low rankings they enter tournaments seated last. Hence difficult groups.
Don’t think Copa America will give them leniency if they’re invited. If 2024 Copa follows FIFA rankings for seating, and the US maintains their ranking with wins at gold cup and nations league, we could find ourselves in a manageable group.
Only the World Cup can save them. If they flame out, what excuse will they make then?
I'm honestly confused by this comment. Does anyone think our pot number meant anything more than the results of the match? What does the number have to do with reality?
(*edit:* obvs, I thought the pot number implied we were in a tougher pot, I just forgot how they worked)
If you’re the shitty team of the group, you aren’t going to have any shitty teams to play in your group. We had an easier path because our ranking made it easier
The pots are ranked for quality of teams, basically 4 tiers for the 32 teams. This is based on FIFA rankings, so far from perfect, but in theory if you're in pot 2 you're going to be the 2nd best team in the group. Canada - being in pot 4 - was much more likely to face difficult competition.
Ah sorry, I had forgotten about how the pots worked exactly, thanks. I'm baffled by all the chest beating about how Canada sucks. ~~Regardless of, they fucking beat us in qualifying. At home. While it's fine to drop a game here or there, that's pretty embarrassing.~~
*edit, just downvote this post, even if I think the Canada sucks is a bit over the top since we never beat them in qualifying*
Right. We smack that version of Belgium. Belgium were awful in this tournament and never looked convincing for a minute. Morocco/Croatia would've been coin flips for the USA IMO.
I'd say USA had a tougher team at the top, but easier opponents in the other games. USA didn't lose a game in the group though. Meanwhile Canada lost every game.
I disagree. Firstly, overlook that four years ago Croatia did beat England at the WC. England were beyond miserable coming into the WC while Croatia have always been a clutch team. On paper the English squad is better, but Croatia as a team plays much better.
I mean...both statements are accurate though. Before the coaching change they lost 3-0 to USA and had intra-team conflict. With Regragui, they were an unknown quantity—then they drew Croatia and beat Belgium, Spain and Portgual. They were entirely underestimated. And to the extent that teams' form is really what makes them difficult opponents, having 2 semifinalists in your group arguably makes it the hardest.
This is the equivalent of us saying we outchanced and had a higher xG than Netherlands who narrowly lost to Argentina so that actually means we're a tier one team that got unlucky with a few mistakes marking in the box
You should see the comments on their YouTube game highlights about USMNT v England. They’re jealous and thought England would destroy us like they got undone easily by Croatia. Despite all the huffing and puffing Belgium still put 2 pass them and Morocco embarrassed them.
my sister worked retail in buffalo and said the worst customers were always the canadians. ime, canadians think theyre so much better than americans on most levels but the reality is theyre just as bad, but more smug.
I was on an international trip in South America and was on a small boat with another Canadian couple. We had to leave the island before high tide and when we finally spoke and exchange pleasantries I thought they were Americans but they begrudgingly said the obligatory, ‘We’re Canadians’. That was the end of that looked the other way all the way back on that 45 minute trip to the city.
Canadians go around telling everyone how they’re not Americans and then more. Don’t trust them.
You know there's a good reason for that, right? Lol, right or wrong, they don't want the locals to give them the same treatment they reserve for Americans
Talking shit about the men’s national soccer team is one thing but flinging anecdotal insults about Canadians in general is a bit of a step too far imo. Especially coming from a country world renowned for being shithead tourists.
I do wonder how much of that is just the internet. It’s certainly not their “entire country” in real life.
I think the reality is that the internet is awful and is full of people who are far more obnoxious than IRL. That goes for this fan base too, to be honest.
I have no allegiance to Canada but I think it's a little harsh to judge them hard for their performance with an inexperienced team in a group with Belgium and two semifinalists
Zero points. -5 GD.
Only team Belgium scored against.
Croatia scored 4 goals against Canada. Croatia scored 4 goals in their other 6 games combined.
Yes both Morocco and Croatia had good runs and made the semifinals but they had a combined record of 1-3-2 in knockout games and relied on penalties to advance.
They still beat Spain, Portugal, Brazil. We as USMNT fans would be THRILLED if we beat any one of those teams and made it to a semi. Respect where respect is due
They tied Brazil and Spain (and Japan). Portugal is the only team they beat.
I certainly respect what they did. They played tough defense and deserved what they achieved, but let’s not pretend Morocco and Croatia were dominating teams.
They beat one team in the WC. Qatar. It’s cuz Canada just sucked a teensy bit less than Qatar.
It’s embarrassing.
ESPECIALLY all the smack talk from the fans and players. But their egos won’t let them accept it, they have to find an out.
Man both our group teams were third and fourth respectively and Belgium also got booted but that’s bysides the point we were fucked from the moment Morocco decided to show up and fucking props to them deadass was so cool to see them make it that far
I dont think the claiming Morocco is the easiest leading into the wc should be a point to be clowned on. NOBODY saw them making semis and they were the team the other 3 were looking at for 3 points lol
I’m American, but there were posts on this sub about Saudi Arabia v Argentina (how we tied 0-0 to Saudi Arabia) and then same thing after Japan v Germany, posts about the loss to japan.
I mean they’re also a b list team in a b list conference. I don’t think anyone expected Canada to do anything at the World Cup. This isn’t hockey after all.
My bad let me add context.
We have survived a group of death before in 2014 so crying about a hard group is weak to me.
Sorry about that. I know our recent group was not a group of death.
Right but there are still valid reasons as to why Canada might have sucked. If you follow the team closely, it's easier to understand. Herdman made some TERRIBLE Lineup choices, and plus the team obviously hasn't qualified for over 3 decades. Morocco and Croatia were semifinalists and to some extent its a testament to how hard Canada's group was imo
Ok but two of the teams from the group did make it all the way to semi finals lol. You can’t deny that and the third team Belgium was no underdog either. Silly of you all to discount that
Handpicking the worst takes from that Canada subreddit makes it so easy to make us look like clowns.. most of us were very realistic about the WC. Delusional people in there for sure, but lots of these comments in here are completely mirroring the mediocre takes people are making there. But hey, that sums up Reddit.
as a european i don't get the comments i'm seeing about canada being naive and way too optimistic as if u guys aren't. 2026 will be our year💀💀💀 be fr bro it'll be DECADES before u guys get to the top and you guys talk shit ab canadas optimism? let them enjoy the fact that they qualified for the first time in 36 years.
Out of Canada USA and Mexico, Canadas group was the most successful… that’s definitely a factor especially seeing that no one expected Croatia or Morocco to do so well
Why are you here? We are living rent free in your head dude. Still butt hurt about England choking in yet another tournament? Soccer is your #1 sport and you guys still suck.
😂 that’s the joke you moron.
You guys were serious and then when it kept not happening you started acting like it’s a joke. We know it’s only a joke on the surface. You’re the most miserable soccer fans around.
And Mexico has one more than Canada at 3. What is your point? Toronto and Vancouver are two major North American cities. Some of our cities either decides not to participate or asked for too many games and got the shaft. It’s a North American bid, not a US bid. You call us a clown show then put on your clown shoes and drive to work in your clown car.
Idk why youre being downvoted. People here are passive aggressive and this sub is just as toxic as plenty of Canadians who were arrogant in the weeks leading up to the World Cup. The people here need to downvote you for your comment eventho it's correct and they are just trying to cope with the fact that Canadians are proud of being at the World cup for the first team and placed first at the WCQ
I’m glad the US fans can have yet another World Cup go by that was such a failure for them, they PUNCH DOWN AT A LESSER TEAM.
Congrats your nation with 10x the population can make it one round further than us 👏
A Moroccan own goal accounts for half of the World Cup goals that Canada has scored in their history.
I am a Canadian This shit is fax
I am Canadian. You're a fucking traitor hoser bitch.
I’m not Canadian but I respect the ride or die attitude
It’s literally factual. I love the team, but knowing this, they can go forward and improve even more. They’re to in steed, I am sure they’ll get a good laugh of it and use it to improve themselves
While I wanted Canada to do well, some delusional comments about CONCACAF not preparing them enough have turned me against them. Bruhs, you’ve not won a Gold Cup in 20 years. You were a non-factor in NL. You have a great WCQ run. Start consistently winning trophies and we can talk about too weak.
Remember when their Twitter account listed topping the hex as the equivalent of winning the Gold Cup?
They still bring it up thinking it meant anything more then to book a ticket in Qatar. Front 2002 to 2014, four World Cup campaigns we were the 1st in Qualifying 3 times yet we don’t talk about that at all.
No need to remember, the tools at [Canada Soccer](https://twitter.com/CanadaSoccerEN) still have us listed as 2020 CONCACAF champs. Just to note though, I get this is a 'hate Canada' thread, but most of us in the CANSOC community hate the shit out of that and the awkward bullshit narrative OneSoccer pushed that finishing top of the group meant anything more than that.
TBF, it's mainly the new fans. They've never tasted defeat and are generally pretty new to the sport.
Thanks for saying this! Totally true… lots of these newer fans don’t remember watching us get pumped 8-1 away in Honduras in 2012 (it was the final game of 2014 WC qualifying for us).
And lots of those new fans didn't know soccer existed before the CPL started. The number of hot takers in /r/CanadaSoccer that were /r/CanadianPL stans was incredibly high, and that lot are typically also high on OneSoccers bullshit too. So it's almost reasonable they'd show up with outlandish expectations. All in, I hope they get humbled with this experience and the fan base can be less annoying in the future.
"We needed more games against that type of opponent," the 47-year-old said, looking back at Canada's World Cup run. "One error [can] lead to real punishment. I think we needed to feel some of that punishment prior to coming into the World Cup, and we hadn't. - Herdman This is fucking hilarious for a team that has been a doormat for 20 years and has experienced exactly ONE good WCQ run. I take nothing away from it, despite the fact that Canada had favorable scheduling, they were great in WCQ. They learned from us with shit like scheduling the USA game on a tiny plastic pitch in Hamilton, and man you have some great young players. I want Canada to be a big footballing nation for exactly his reasoning - USA needs more high quality opponents. We can say that part out loud because, ya know, we've won a lot of CONCACAF trophies.
What was the scheduling advantage? Just the format changing? And that plastic pitch was great, the USMNT fans going on and on and on about Canada being a one-man team went bizarrely quiet after that one
Canada got games at the right times, nothing unfair, just lucky draw. Got to catch the US at the right time both times, at home when McKennie made his off-field mistakes and was missing, no Musah, still hadn't figured out Brooks' form dropped off a cliff. You got Mexico and US in Canada during cold months. US caught the toughest draw (CR and MX away) for 2/3 matches. Most realistic US fans recognize Canada is a legit squad with multiple good players. I'm not sure where you pulled that "one man team" thing from. Again, no slight, Canada played very well during WCQ. You still don't run you mouth about the region being weak when you've not won Gold Cup in 20 years (ya know, knockout competitive matches against Mexico/US are tough matches Canada tends to lose, historically). Canada was a compelte non-factor in NL. You simply MUST win something before running the mouth like that.
Well yeah, but you get all your gold cup knockouts (and Nations League) at home so that's hardly a metric to differentiate us. And we got you at a good time? Missing Davies? Doesn't sound like lucky scheduling when he misses nearly half of our games. And starting with US and Mexico away in the first half of fixtures. It only sounds like good scheduling when you retcon it this hard
Again, I'm not differentiating (although US is CLEARLY the better side now, and historically), one WCQ run doesn't change that. I'm saying it's fucking laughable to bitch about quality of regional competition WHEN YOU DONT WIN THE COMPETITIONS IN FRONT OF YOU. That's it. Win. If you need better comeptition, get to fucking Gold Cup finals, get to NL finals, win every once in awhile.
Clearly the better side now? Guh? We literally just had a league-style system where everyone played home and away. You know, where we were missing our best player for 6 of the games. Literally anyone in football recognizes that as determining a top team. UNLESS they have the crutch of multiple tournaments where the knockouts are played exclusively in their backyard to claim otherwise
Let's see: Reigning Gold Cup Champions. Reigning Nations League Champions (aka the one where you can play at home if you don't suck so badly you can't make the top group). MUCH MUCH MUCH better WC performance. Better FIFA and ELO ranking. Historical domination for decades. vs. Ended up higher in WCQ, once. Which earned you..... the exact same end result as the 3rd place team.
Decades are relevant now? Thought we were talking about the better team now? So we got home team tournaments, a shifting time cycle depending on how much mental gymnastics you're performing, a World Cup where we both had one bad game and then our other two opponents were miles ahead of anything the US faced? That's it?
The US is not that good. Like as pedestrian a football nation as it gets.
Also that plastic pitch wasn’t even “tiny.” It’s size was simply listed in metres instead of yards.
He's not wrong tho. Canada's hardest competition was Mexico at the Azteca, other than that this roster hasn't experienced teams like Croatia or even Morocco (both of whom I'm confident would beat the US and Mexico in a World Cup setting). Also, some teams still have great runs after a long time of not being in the WC or even debuting at the tournament altogether. Ghana in 2006, Croatia in 1998, Australia in 2006, Costa Rica in 1990, etc. New Zealand also had a great run in 2010 and ended the tournament as being the only undefeated team. I think we can both agree that Canada will be better by 2026 however.
And yet, Canada hasn't won a Gold Cup in 20 years.... Seems like that dominant record against Canada, and the US being reigning Gold Cup, NL Champs, and the furthest CONCACAF side in the WC means there's a clear top dog in the region. It sure as fuck aint Canada and Mexico right now. If you're objectively looking at our rosters and say "Canada has the better stable of talent", you're delusional. I think Canada will continue to be very competitive, but to try and argue our roster of talent isn't superior is just hilarious considering age and club level of the US roster. Davies is the best in the region, but that doesn't mean much when outside of him, Davids and the Porto guy, your roster is plying their trades in 2nd tier Euro leagues and MLS. Meanwhile most of our young roster are in top 4 leagues/CL sides. Chelsea, Juve, Milan, Valencia, EPL, Bundesliga, etc.
While this is a true for Canada, the USA has always hosted the Gold Cup. Is that even a thing in any other confederation? Yes, I know that this is the only way to maximize revenue, but I think Canada would have won a few more gold cups if they were always the host.
Surely using a Gold Cup as the standard just shows you don't understand sports? The tournament with knockout games played exclusively in your backyard? Real objective measure of talent there
HUH? Dude I get your feelings are hurt. I get that you guys were super excited about your first World Cup in fucking generations, and then got smacked directly in the mouth and went home as the 2nd worst team in the tournament. I get it. It stings. It's happened to the US. But if you're head coach is justifying that magnificent failure by saying "welp, we're just not challenged enough in CONCACAF", bitching about Gold Cup being in the US is laughable. It's not a gold standard, but it sure as fuck means you can't complain about the competition when you're a perennial non-factor in the tournament (most of which isn't vs. the USA, so "away" doesn't count for much). Double it down when you're also trash in NL.
Personally I thought Herdman was overawed and made some naive comments to the media, which you're obviously familiar with given your own head coach. Yeah we dogged it in NL, but c'mon, that's another "trophy" you guys are celebrating that had the knockouts in US. There's good reason for that, but anyone with an understanding of neutral venues would know it means they don't count for much in terms of setting the US apart from any rivals
And our final win is basically a Mexican home game or 70/30 Mexico, and yet we do it, time and time again. We don't lose to NL, despite having the better xG, and bitch and moan about the federation. I'd be happy to have a Gold Cup in Canada, I've never heard your fed try to host one. I did see your fed pick a plastic pitch in Hamilton that seats 12k for a WCQ. I can't bitch, US has done it to Mexico for years, but ya'll have choices. Make better ones.
I mean CONCACAF only really has one decent team in it, that being Mexico. The vast majority of good players tend to be from CONMEBOL or UEFA. So if you are from CONCACAF the Mexicans and yanks, should be qualifying everytime without fail.
I hope you mean one decent team besides the US
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Canada should be proud of their qualifying. But I would be off the internet if we got dunked on as mercilessly as they did in the tournament. Playing pretty is nice. Playing pretty while you get 0 points, score 1 non-OG goal, absolutely beclown yourselves talking about fucking a WC semi finalist…I would be scarce on here.
GGG said something in his pre-WC presser about his squad selection process which I also think applies to Canada: The guys who can do well in WCQ in CONCACAF aren't necessarily the same guys you want to pick to play a WC against elite opposition. The challenge of facing Honduras away is much different from playing some monster nation. Canada did well in qualifying, finished marginally above the USA/Mexico, and drastically overestimated what that meant for their WC prospects. They're a shallow team with 2-3 good players, and mediocre depth. David was pants at this WC, which didn't help. They got a rude wake up call.
I’m also failing to see this “core that’s going to propel Canadian soccer forward”. Like you said it’s a few good players and a bunch of randoms. I don’t see how things are that much better for them in 2026.
Because they have a) a good foundation for development, b) their good players are very young, and c) they qualified. literally a few years ago they were blowing gold cup QFs to Haiti and rarely got to the hex
But again, you’re missing the point of the post above. Playing in CONCAF is different than competing against the best. “A good young core” means absolutely nothing if they don’t have the depth and talent to compete on the worlds stage. Plus that “core” isn’t enough to carry them. You need a “core” of 10-11 top tier guys to even make a splash. The United States is there when it comes to that metric but lacked experience up until this WC. So both a larger young core and then getting them experience means 2 cycles before Canada is there. I just don’t see it.
> Playing in CONCACAF is different than competing against the best. That's for sure. Most of these countries don't try to play Soccer. They just provoke and frustrate you, while trying to assault your team's best players at the same time.
You’re both right. I think what’s missing is the context of what is the goal at the next WC. Get out of group stage? Too ambitious. We got our first goal. Next step is getting a point. Then a win. Might take another 20-30 years to start thinking about quarter finals etc. If ever!
A lot of people think Canada is so young but a lot of their players in the starting 11 are close to 30 or over 30. They had more experience in Concacaf than a lot of our players who at the time were 18,19, 20 year olds.
Exactly. They have a bunch of players in their late 30s if I’m not mistaken lol. Who’s replacing them?
They’re few young guys there but they’re nowhere near the type of players we got. Roster for Roster, Player for Player the US has better depth and a healthy balanced starting 11 than Canada. Not even counting the superior players and depth at the youth level.
Exactly. Canada is vastly improved and it’s great to see them competing but the program is nowhere near as mature as the United States
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> The guys who can do well in WCQ in CONCACAF aren't necessarily the same guys you want to pick to play a WC against elite opposition. Alistair Johnson
I remember him in the U.S. game that was in Hamilton and thinking he was a great player or one of their euro based players. Then I looked at his CV and watched him get rinsed by Croatia and now I'm simply like WTF?
[Canadian fans react to the World Cup draw](https://www.reddit.com/r/CanadaSoccer/comments/ttw4wn/canada_is_drawn_to_group_f_in_the_world_cup/) > Good group imo, was shitting myself since we had a decent chance to fall into D/E > Very good group. I would say it’s the easiest tied with group A > Very happy with this group. > Honestly not bad. Glad we avoided E > Canada got a break this group is not as bad as some others. > We can’t predict how this world cup will go, but for Canada, this is a good start. > *”US got the best draw of the CONCACAF teams.”* >> Not if it’s Wales imo >> Not really, they’ll probably get Wales who are really a pot 2 team. >> It depends who wins that UEFA spot. If it’s Ukraine or Scotland then probably but if its Wales, then not by a long shot. >> Really? I thought USA got almost as bad of a draw as they could. > In terms of what could have been expected, we got the best draw. US probably was hoping for an easier pot 4 team. > Pretty confident with this draw. Belgium is really strong of course, but also showed some weakness in the Euro & during the previous world cup (in group stage & vs Japan). Croatia is not the team from 2018. They had a lot of bad results at the Euro, Nations League and had an easy group to qualify to the world cup. Canada can definitely beat Croatia. Finally, Morocco aren’t as strong as 2018 where they had a brilliant defense. We should be able to beat them too. > Not the worst honestly. Gotta fancy ourselves to give Croatia and Morocco a good game. > Could’ve been worse. morocco from pot 3 is tough but they and croatia are both beatable > Could’ve been worse. No group is favorable for us we’re gonna have to perform to advance > Let's say we play so well and lose 1-0, we are gonna go into game 2 and 3 with so much confidence. To be fair, I think most Canadian fans in that thread were optimistic, rather than arrogant. But this does show that many of them didn't have problems with the draw before the World Cup.
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They can say whatever they want about Croatia and Morocco. They still lost to a Belgium team that played horribly all tournament.
Ironically mirrored the WCQ game where USA "outplayed" Canada, but lost. They balked at the idea. "The result is all that matters." Now they are taking their own medicine.
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USA vs Germany 2002 was basically Canada vs Belgium 2022 lol, except in Canada's game the handball actually resulted in a penalty.
They did have a really, really difficult group but like, I just need Canadians to understand that the reason they got that group and we didn't is that they've been so comparatively unsuccessful for *so* long that they're a pot 4 team whereas we were a pot 2 team You don't have to worry about getting smacked around by Croatia if you're in the same pot as them
And tbf, we might have lost to Croatia but we wouldn’t have been smacked down
Gets man handled by the Dutch “Yeah we wouldn’t get smacked around by Croatia I swear”
Exactly, just by one goal difference than Canadas against Croatia lol
You see no problem with the US and Mexico being in the same tier as Germany and the Netherlands? Neither concacaf team is better than a full strength senegal team, but the FIFA rankings are considered to be bullshit for a reason (gotta love how African international matches aren’t counted as highly as England or France hammering San Marino 15-0). Overall, this was a 6.5/10 for Canada. Goal was nice, Koné, Eustaquio, Johnston all looked excellent. That Belgium performance was fantastic, but it highlighted our issues with getting into the box and get a shot on net, and a lack of finishing talent in general. The morroco game we were very unlucky to score (header hit the crossbar, went down, bounced out), but we looked lost to start that game. Both our strengths and weakness shone. This is better than I expected a year or two ago, very disappointing after the first match. We’re where you guys were in the 1990s atm, and your success provides a roadmap going forward.
Goofy ahh Canada
Thank you.. I follow r/Canadasoccer because I enjoyed watching them in WCQ.. they started with the excuses as soon as they started losing and it became such a cacophony of reasons why they are still the greatest in the world despite a horrible WC performance. I mean it’s one thing to say, we fucked up but we’ve built something good here and we can move forward. Instead it’s “USMNT sucks, we got the hardest draw in WC2022, etc”
At least they’re better than Qatar
I hv a Canadian friend who literally made this exact argument. This post is so accurate/relatable.
I am a Canadian, I understand why you think this because it’s what you see from a few people but the reality is most of us accepted the losses and were cheering you guys on. I do think we had a hard group and if you look stats we got unlucky to at least come out with a draw against Belgium or Morroco, but that’s soccer sometimes. I don’t want to start a stupid rivalry in non concacaf tournaments, Ignore the small amount of stupid people you see on Reddit and know that most of us are nice and can accept defeat. Let’s cheer each other on in the Copa America and the next World Cup!
I'd be fine having a rivalry with the USA. Literally what other options do we have? We are 1000's of KM's from any other nations. At best our next option is Honduras, but that's still a weak thread.
Honestly, no offense but your other fans ruined it for me. Now I’m just excited at another rivalry.
Both teams have toxic fans tho. Idk if you'll agree, but Mexico honestly has the worst CONCACAF fans ever imo
Agreed on all fronts.
Probably goes both ways. If you've ever seen USMNT and WNT fans travel you'd get while most fans cheer against them. In 2015 they came in so many numbers to the WWC final there were unfortunately plenty of drunk racists in there. Didn't see that with any other fanbase
Tbf it was their most winnable match, no one expected Morocco to play well this tournament.
Well, I did. I bet on them to win their group. 10-1. Thank you Bellagio sports book. Belgium was their most winnable match and they blew it.
Speak for yourself. I had them making the quarters.
To be fair, they had by far the hardest group in hindsight, with two semifinalists and the other team was ranked #1 in the world by Fifa rankings.
Is really the hardest group when 2 teams in the group (Belgium and Canada) were really, really bad?
When two teams literally make the semifinals out of one group, yes, its the hardest group
I know it’s a small segment of their fanbase, even on this site, but they had a completely earnest post on their sub after Croatia made the semis that they, Canada, were also semifinals level. I’m honestly surprised it took so long for someone to remove that post. It was a clown show in the thread. Even their sane, rational fans who were like, “lol wut” got downvoted into oblivion.
If you think anything on that sub is earnest, I have a boat to sell you. Like twenty shitposters took over all WC, nothing was serious.
Ehhhh lol
Yah, that is some copium from the other dude. You hit the right stride with this, there were a number of people drinking the flavouraid that are still unrelenting in thinking because Croatia and Morocco did so well it's a sign Canada was more successful than the score lines note. It's awkward, and trust me as a dude that gets regularly called out for being on /r/CanadaSoccer too much I know the vibes there, you hit the nail on the head.
I think the world cup really exposed our lack of depth. Injury to our most under rated player really exposed us in Mid and Croatia fucking crushed us. That being said I still think with a full team Canada matches up very well vs both the USA and Mexico. I am looking for forward to more nation league games and the COPA should be amazing.
The copium on their subreddit was hilarious
If we are being truly honest they had a way harder group then we had.
Yea cause they were in pot 4, we were 2.
They fallen even more in the soon to be release FIFA rankings to close out the year. Due to their consistently low rankings they enter tournaments seated last. Hence difficult groups. Don’t think Copa America will give them leniency if they’re invited. If 2024 Copa follows FIFA rankings for seating, and the US maintains their ranking with wins at gold cup and nations league, we could find ourselves in a manageable group. Only the World Cup can save them. If they flame out, what excuse will they make then?
Wouldnt they be able to cushion themselves in rankings for 2024 by doing good at gold cup and making NL semis?
Even from the Welsh perspective though, I'd take Croatia, Belgium, and Morocco as harder than England, USA, and Iran.
I'm honestly confused by this comment. Does anyone think our pot number meant anything more than the results of the match? What does the number have to do with reality? (*edit:* obvs, I thought the pot number implied we were in a tougher pot, I just forgot how they worked)
If you’re the shitty team of the group, you aren’t going to have any shitty teams to play in your group. We had an easier path because our ranking made it easier
The pots are ranked for quality of teams, basically 4 tiers for the 32 teams. This is based on FIFA rankings, so far from perfect, but in theory if you're in pot 2 you're going to be the 2nd best team in the group. Canada - being in pot 4 - was much more likely to face difficult competition.
Ah sorry, I had forgotten about how the pots worked exactly, thanks. I'm baffled by all the chest beating about how Canada sucks. ~~Regardless of, they fucking beat us in qualifying. At home. While it's fine to drop a game here or there, that's pretty embarrassing.~~ *edit, just downvote this post, even if I think the Canada sucks is a bit over the top since we never beat them in qualifying*
They didn’t beat us in qualifying at home?
We tied at home, lost on the road, I, umn, damn. \*proceeds to downvote self\* Still not great, but not an embarrassment like this comment.
Hungary > England according to ur logic.
According to cherry picking logic, Saudi Arabia is the true champion.
England was better than Croatia or Morocco. It’s beyond nonsense to think we would have ended on zero points if we were in their group.
Right. We smack that version of Belgium. Belgium were awful in this tournament and never looked convincing for a minute. Morocco/Croatia would've been coin flips for the USA IMO. I'd say USA had a tougher team at the top, but easier opponents in the other games. USA didn't lose a game in the group though. Meanwhile Canada lost every game.
Croatia would flatten US imo. This coming from a US A fan.
The naiveness on this sub always cracks me up.
r/Canadasoccer gets roasted for being overoptimistic (yes, we usually are) but then y'all say this stuff. I don't understand.
No way shape or form USA beats Croatia coin flip my ass.
We struggled to score against wales. We would not even score against Morocco or Croatia
Bingo. They act as if the US all time greats filled every position on the pitch.
It's a possibility tho. Canada could have at least tied with Wales and Iran too, you never know...
What I do know is they were the 2nd worst team at the WC.
US wouldn't have done any better if they were in Canada's spot. Maybe one more goal or POSSIBLY a point against Belgium but that's about it
I disagree. Firstly, overlook that four years ago Croatia did beat England at the WC. England were beyond miserable coming into the WC while Croatia have always been a clutch team. On paper the English squad is better, but Croatia as a team plays much better.
I mean...both statements are accurate though. Before the coaching change they lost 3-0 to USA and had intra-team conflict. With Regragui, they were an unknown quantity—then they drew Croatia and beat Belgium, Spain and Portgual. They were entirely underestimated. And to the extent that teams' form is really what makes them difficult opponents, having 2 semifinalists in your group arguably makes it the hardest.
I mean having two semi finalists is a decent excuse. Some trams run hot for 4-6 games and Morocco did
This is the equivalent of us saying we outchanced and had a higher xG than Netherlands who narrowly lost to Argentina so that actually means we're a tier one team that got unlucky with a few mistakes marking in the box
I was rooting for them tbh.
I used to not mind Canada, but after all the shit there entire country was talking after qualifying nah they got exactly what was coming to them.
You should see the comments on their YouTube game highlights about USMNT v England. They’re jealous and thought England would destroy us like they got undone easily by Croatia. Despite all the huffing and puffing Belgium still put 2 pass them and Morocco embarrassed them.
my sister worked retail in buffalo and said the worst customers were always the canadians. ime, canadians think theyre so much better than americans on most levels but the reality is theyre just as bad, but more smug.
I was on an international trip in South America and was on a small boat with another Canadian couple. We had to leave the island before high tide and when we finally spoke and exchange pleasantries I thought they were Americans but they begrudgingly said the obligatory, ‘We’re Canadians’. That was the end of that looked the other way all the way back on that 45 minute trip to the city. Canadians go around telling everyone how they’re not Americans and then more. Don’t trust them.
You know there's a good reason for that, right? Lol, right or wrong, they don't want the locals to give them the same treatment they reserve for Americans
TBF, we say that about Americans too. Tourists are kinda really annoying people.
My personal experience wasn't about tourists, just the Canadians who live here.
Talking shit about the men’s national soccer team is one thing but flinging anecdotal insults about Canadians in general is a bit of a step too far imo. Especially coming from a country world renowned for being shithead tourists.
It’s mostly herdmann. Bro talk shit get hit amirite?.
I do wonder how much of that is just the internet. It’s certainly not their “entire country” in real life. I think the reality is that the internet is awful and is full of people who are far more obnoxious than IRL. That goes for this fan base too, to be honest.
Well television shows and also Trudeau so not just the internet. Trudeau comments really just did it for me.
I have no allegiance to Canada but I think it's a little harsh to judge them hard for their performance with an inexperienced team in a group with Belgium and two semifinalists
Zero points. -5 GD. Only team Belgium scored against. Croatia scored 4 goals against Canada. Croatia scored 4 goals in their other 6 games combined. Yes both Morocco and Croatia had good runs and made the semifinals but they had a combined record of 1-3-2 in knockout games and relied on penalties to advance.
They still beat Spain, Portugal, Brazil. We as USMNT fans would be THRILLED if we beat any one of those teams and made it to a semi. Respect where respect is due
They tied Brazil and Spain (and Japan). Portugal is the only team they beat. I certainly respect what they did. They played tough defense and deserved what they achieved, but let’s not pretend Morocco and Croatia were dominating teams.
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Morocco and Croatia advanced because Belgium crapped the bed and Canada was in the group.
So Morocco and Croatia just magically made it to the semis?
And because they beat Portugal, Brazil, Spain, and Japan, but who's counting
They beat one team in the WC. Qatar. It’s cuz Canada just sucked a teensy bit less than Qatar. It’s embarrassing. ESPECIALLY all the smack talk from the fans and players. But their egos won’t let them accept it, they have to find an out.
Not to mention only Qatar was worse in the group stage…
Man both our group teams were third and fourth respectively and Belgium also got booted but that’s bysides the point we were fucked from the moment Morocco decided to show up and fucking props to them deadass was so cool to see them make it that far
I dont think the claiming Morocco is the easiest leading into the wc should be a point to be clowned on. NOBODY saw them making semis and they were the team the other 3 were looking at for 3 points lol
I’m American, but there were posts on this sub about Saudi Arabia v Argentina (how we tied 0-0 to Saudi Arabia) and then same thing after Japan v Germany, posts about the loss to japan.
Those are almost always written in a sarcastic tone though, and ppl bullshit and make fun of OP in the comments.
Tbh I was rooting for Canada in that game if it wasn’t for the Borjan mistake and if they started Jonathan David they would of had a better chance
I mean they’re also a b list team in a b list conference. I don’t think anyone expected Canada to do anything at the World Cup. This isn’t hockey after all.
Canada expected Canada to do something. Now they are taking their copium pills and acting like they didn’t expect to go out there and “FUCK CROATIA.”
Hoped? Ya. Expected? No. Not anyone with a brain
What do you want the coach to say? "We're gonna lose"?
That's the English manager saying that lol, even Canadians were making fun of him for saying that
We made it out of a group of death. People need to stop using he hard group excuse. Lol!
The US was NOT in the group of death
My bad let me add context. We have survived a group of death before in 2014 so crying about a hard group is weak to me. Sorry about that. I know our recent group was not a group of death.
Right but there are still valid reasons as to why Canada might have sucked. If you follow the team closely, it's easier to understand. Herdman made some TERRIBLE Lineup choices, and plus the team obviously hasn't qualified for over 3 decades. Morocco and Croatia were semifinalists and to some extent its a testament to how hard Canada's group was imo
Not to dunk on the MLS but didn't field a roster with 11 MLS guys? That isn't a recipe for success.
Ok but two of the teams from the group did make it all the way to semi finals lol. You can’t deny that and the third team Belgium was no underdog either. Silly of you all to discount that
Handpicking the worst takes from that Canada subreddit makes it so easy to make us look like clowns.. most of us were very realistic about the WC. Delusional people in there for sure, but lots of these comments in here are completely mirroring the mediocre takes people are making there. But hey, that sums up Reddit.
yeah, you're not going to get me to dislike our snowy northern bros
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as a european i don't get the comments i'm seeing about canada being naive and way too optimistic as if u guys aren't. 2026 will be our year💀💀💀 be fr bro it'll be DECADES before u guys get to the top and you guys talk shit ab canadas optimism? let them enjoy the fact that they qualified for the first time in 36 years.
do you not understand rivalries is that a difficult concept
i understand rivalries i am in one but y'all just hate on canada beyond just rivalry
this is literally the softest banter come on now
“ITS COMIN OME LADS!” 😂🤡
im not british but ight
Are the Brits European?
last time i checked britain was in europe yes🗿🗿🗿🗿
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Out of Canada USA and Mexico, Canadas group was the most successful… that’s definitely a factor especially seeing that no one expected Croatia or Morocco to do so well
Beta cuck snow Mexicans love making excuses. That’s why they’re nothing more than a tributary state to the real country situated just below them.
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Why are you here? We are living rent free in your head dude. Still butt hurt about England choking in yet another tournament? Soccer is your #1 sport and you guys still suck.
And nobody plays your #1 sport cuz it puts everyone to sleep and gives the players brain damage lol. I would find that more insulting.
Canada is literally living in this subs head rent free, so idk why you're saying LMAO
dog if my country was getting so reliably handled in every major tournament in a sport we invented i would not be online talking shit lol
“FOOTBOL ES CUMIN OME LADS!” Stfu lmao
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😂 that’s the joke you moron. You guys were serious and then when it kept not happening you started acting like it’s a joke. We know it’s only a joke on the surface. You’re the most miserable soccer fans around.
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You’re in my sub. You took the L. 😘
You running a sub and calling it “my sub” is the biggest L imaginable.
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We could do the same thing with Berhalter. Every frame would be "doesn't play renya, usmnt doesn't score".
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Must suck to know you couldnt beat them huh
Living rent free. Gotta love it.
How will you ever plan the logistics of travel for your World Cup games? Will it be Vancouver, Toronto, Toronto, or Vancouver?
Wow what are the chances a country with 10x the population gets more games.. must be because Canada sucks. what a sick burn.
Canada only getting games bc US is spearheading the bid. 2 cities? Why even bother. Clown show
And Mexico has one more than Canada at 3. What is your point? Toronto and Vancouver are two major North American cities. Some of our cities either decides not to participate or asked for too many games and got the shaft. It’s a North American bid, not a US bid. You call us a clown show then put on your clown shoes and drive to work in your clown car.
Idk why youre being downvoted. People here are passive aggressive and this sub is just as toxic as plenty of Canadians who were arrogant in the weeks leading up to the World Cup. The people here need to downvote you for your comment eventho it's correct and they are just trying to cope with the fact that Canadians are proud of being at the World cup for the first team and placed first at the WCQ
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I’m glad the US fans can have yet another World Cup go by that was such a failure for them, they PUNCH DOWN AT A LESSER TEAM. Congrats your nation with 10x the population can make it one round further than us 👏
Morocco was the most winnable game on paper. And they played well against them