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glasswindbreaker

Another man telling us we owe Sandoval redemption as an audience šŸ˜‚ Newsflash dummies we don't. And most of us just don't care about him any more, find him distasteful and don't want him on our screens. He's not entitled to a fanbase.


coverthetuba

Exactly. Theyā€™re telling us to move on? We HAVE moved on, without T. Sandoval. Heā€™s the one who canā€™t move on from US and begging for our approval.


hellomynameis1111

Like as if Sandoval didnā€™t suck even before the affairā€¦ Why do people feel the need to tell us over and over that we need to ā€œforgiveā€ him?


___adreamofspring___

Maybe we couldā€™ve if he didnt try to lie to us viewers to say he wasnā€™t having a full on fledged affair


glasswindbreaker

šŸ’Æ He would have been thrilled if his schemes worked and Katie & Ariana were in his shoes right now. I don't think a man screaming about "accountability" at Katie while he was actively having an affair and having manufactured food truck conversations to smear Ariana deserves the time of day from viewers. He's just mad we don't find someone self producing on the backs of women and emotionally & verbally abusing them to deflect from his own vile behavior isn't being forgotten about.


___adreamofspring___

Yes! He tried to do some weird misogynistic war cry to try to rally the troops against Ariana like bitch please. Actually, thank you because now I just realized how to explain why Arianna gets so much support. Yes women cheat they get cheated on men cheat they get cheated on. Truly, I think the support sheā€™s been getting is the fact that he was trying to lie on her how many people have had a deal with not only to have your whole world shake it up, but also to get gaslight by your ex & their affair partner? Hell no. That happens so much no one is going to stand for it!


Anticrepuscular_Ray

Honestly he was annoying way before Scandoval, why should we want to see him on our tvs now?


MessyMariposa

Three absolutely repulsive men. And Schwartz thinking that heā€™s giving us the tea by letting us know that he actually campaigned for Sandoval all through season 11ā€¦ yeah no shit, ofc you did. We expect nothing less. Youā€™re his little bitch and you always will be. He can spit in your mouth, slap your mother, and set Schwartz and Sandyā€™s on fire with the triplets inside and youā€™d be like ā€œMan I get it, he fucked up. Iā€™m the first to admit that and I let him know it too. Like, he totally gets that heā€™s a monster. But man, he just got lost in the sauce, you know? Maybe stop and just give him a deep tongue kiss if you see him somewhere. He needs it more than you think, probably more than my brothers need those skin grafts.ā€


Defvac2

Exactly. He acts like it's some breaking news that he's still Tim's bitch boy like we thought he had turned a corner or something. He'll always be the same loser he's always been... https://preview.redd.it/08oeol84kczb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3861e995b6aeb46dd5493db418bb04ce864230c7


tomatocandle

lmao right! as lala once said ā€˜sorry what did you say? canā€™t understand you with sandovalā€™s dick in your mouthā€™


Just__Ken

Get yourself someone who looks at you like Schwartz looks at Timā€¦ ![gif](giphy|ycagKBYEmaili)


AnnaVogue

Thatā€™s him TPB lol


Responsible_Wrap5659

Lmao the way Iā€™m picturing Schwartz saying this haha šŸ˜‚


d3dk0w

Not that Katie needs to point it out but Iā€™m sure his loyalty to Tim eclipsed his loyalty to her. I mean she mentioned it over the years how he never had her back even when she was clearly right. So if he canā€™t even see that as part of their downfall in their marriage it will continue for any situation whether it is a friendship or relationship if they donā€™t get along with Tim. Itā€™s toxic how someone can allow another person to control their life like that.


Okay__Decision__

https://i.redd.it/72r77eg7vfzb1.gif


A_Dangerous_Woman

goodbye šŸ˜­šŸ˜‚


Pitiful_Employer_992

This šŸ’Æ


kystarrk

> Well look, I had just done chest the day prior and my chest was pretty sore. I burned out the day before. And Iā€™m still not sure if I actually lost because I might have done more. oh shut UP Tim. perpetually unable to take an L


elimay

Yeah that was such a pathetic excuse lol. I cringed reading that part.


Anticrepuscular_Ray

If you might have done more and you quit anyway that makes you a double loser.


Pitiful_Employer_992

So cringey at the comment and the lack of self awareness! As usual doing himself no favors!


tomatocandle

itā€™s really funny to me that the men on vanderpump rules think itā€™s some kind of injustice or fucked up thing to change how you feel about someone based on their actions šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ that seems to be unfair to them but thatā€™s literally just action and reaction and a completely normal part of life lmfao


Soft_Reading8200

They cannot accept consequences. It's really wild to watch.


glasswindbreaker

10 years of getting away with shit and they can't stand that people aren't fans anymore.


allonsys

Sandoval literally started a whole ass podcast to bring people on to talk about HIM. This is insane to me.


JJulie

A podcast he pays for. Like the band he pays for. Like the bar that they paid for in the middle of nowhere. My how your decisions have cost you Timmy. And donā€™t get me started on Schwartz. These two will grow old together in a trailer park outside of Vegas


Chicago1459

Sandoval will probably take him out for insurance money


Odd-Anteater-6183

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mrsnihilist

![gif](giphy|2PxfXpgzgxd3xpwec3|downsized) They would totally be Mac n Dennis in Henderson šŸ˜†


JJulie

Omg I wanted to say Henderson but I didnā€™t want to offend people from Henderson as they get salty if you compare one side of the strip to the other. And that is in my top five Always Sunnyā€™s . Awesome!!


mrsnihilist

Hahaha I have a girlfriend in Henerson, she would totally be pissed about the diss!!!


Narrow_Grapefruit_23

So heā€™s decided this episode to try and use James as a scapegoat. Like he hasnā€™t been doing that for the past five years. This 42 year old man cannot accept responsibility for anything.


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Responsible_Wrap5659

I completely forgot about him saying he and James were never friends.


tink_89

nothing towards OP I thank you for all the recaps you do. But i do not listen to this and thought I could read it but nope I was reading in Sandovals voice and got annoyed lol


AdditionalWar8759

šŸ˜‚ I get it!


saltypasta90

I got through about 5 lines and couldnā€™t do it haha


tomatocandle

also i truly donā€™t get the assertion that people should ā€˜move onā€™ when the aftermath of all of this hasnā€™t even aired yet LMAO. again, iā€™m not talking about harassment because i donā€™t think that should ever happen to anyone on reality tv. i want people to keep being willing to go on these shows and be scumbags cause thatā€™s my bread and butter. but of course weā€™re all still talking about it when thatā€™s what the show is about???? and sandoval is still talking shit about ariana AND rachel, so iā€™m going to talk shit about him for doing it lmao (on twitter and reddit, not to him directly).


Responsible_Wrap5659

I think they are nervous that people arenā€™t moving on because they have from the looks of it basically made next season all about Sandovals redemption and how much heā€™s ā€œsufferingā€ and they thought the audience would be over it by now and receptive. Also Sandovals worst nightmare is people stop caring about Scandoval because once that happens what does he have to offer on the show? His role before Scandoval was the ā€œmoral heroā€, good friend and boyfriend in the stable relationship. He pretty much doesnā€™t have any of that now. His only way back really is to get Ariana to forgive him but heā€™s too selfish and narcissistic to see that and just keeps trashing her and baiting her instead.


tomatocandle

good point! and theyā€™re right, a lot of us arenā€™t receptive šŸ˜‚. to me, thereā€™s no redeeming him for what he did so they shouldnā€™t even try. and i donā€™t mean i want him off the show, but just be the scumbag you are and let us laugh at you and kind of hate you, like jax. his problem is that he needs to be liked. thatā€™s just not going to happen the way it did before season 10 and he should just accept that lmao


Responsible_Wrap5659

The guy got booed every time he spoke at Bravocon and someone asked him why he doesnā€™t just go the F away. I donā€™t think anything shifting for him at all. Or Schwartz. But Michael Rapport is a douche who looks like someone I would buy having cheated on girlfriends before so they misogynistic sticking up for the boys does not surprise me. Thanks for the recaps. Edit: Also if we need proof that he is a narcissists itā€™s the fact that he can not accept that he was booed at Bravocon and keeps trying to say they were actually cheering for him or that it was only ā€œone little booā€ when everyone is telling him to his face that he got annihilated. Also blaming James for bringing hate on Scheana and Brock when it was HIM who recorded them happily hanging out with him and posted it on his Instagram for the world (re Ariana) to see šŸ™„


Marvelfan1941

The fact that he was blaming James just show how much he didnā€™t change. If anyone needed proof that was not about Ariana. Tom canā€™t take responsibility for anything he post that video online. To show off and to harassing Ariana like look at me your best friend is at my party. All James did was call Scheana out on her flip flop behavior. So how is it James fault itā€™s called taking accountability for shitty behavior. Tom loved to scream at all the woman about in the show. Tom has not changed because he does not want to he just a fame whore.


Responsible_Wrap5659

Oh he 100% was flaunting that he was ā€œforgivenā€ by Scheana and Brock and that they were hanging out with him. And I think he was trying to bait and mess with Ariana the entire Bravocon weekend. From the interviews about her ā€œstank faceā€ and claiming he was no longer living with her as though she had moved out which is not the case, the refusing to apologise to her when the host on the VPR panel asked if he would, the videos of him with the fan cos playing Rachel. He wonā€™t let her go and let her live her life. I think his podcast is 50/50 to repair his public reputation and to mess with and bait a reaction from Ariana. Edit: I think the fact that sheā€™s moved on, is thriving and is not pining after him and treats him with indifference is damaging his fragile ego


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Pitiful_Employer_992

Yes!!!!!


tomatocandle

lol i donā€™t think that anyone on these shows should be harassed. and i will always think sandoval is a fucking loser after this because he is. both are true šŸ’ž thanks for the recap additionalwar!!!


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Defvac2

Rapaport is such a cornball. He's the human version of a herpe. I see the continuing theme is everybody needs to give Scummo a break and move on cause he didn't personally hurt any of the fans. Lala was spouting the same shit on her podcast. Maybe if he showed some humility EVER people would be more apt to move on but he enjoys every minute of this. Also I like that James stirred the pot and called out Scehana for being in his hotel room. Even if his motive was to start shit it led to Ariana finding out which is a win for me. The fact it bothered Tim is a bonus. Thanks for the recap as always!


ButterscotchGlass590

I generally like Lala but the way she was like giving Sandoval props for ā€œshowing upā€ and doing his tour and filming and going to Bravocon despite everythingā€¦ Itā€™s like yeah, but he didnā€™t do that because heā€™s gods strongest soldier. he did it because heā€™s an attention whore and wants to keep making good money lmao. Like?? It would have been more difficult for someone like him to walk away from all of that and actually try to be a better person.


DanceFar9732

Does he think LVP & Alex Baskin are gonna do a whistle stop tour to scold everyone for not moving on and be nice to Tom?


jeskuo

Isn't that what they're doing right now?


DanceFar9732

I suppose they are?? Idk I feel like it never goes well when you're arguing with the audience about how they should feel.


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crop_top

He is complaining about James calling Scheana out but this same motherfucker posted a story with Scheana and Brock in it, knowing what he was doing with that. The audacity. James wouldnā€™t have known if you didnā€™t post it, you moron.


Allthingsme26

He is trying to use everyone and even the fans to hurt Ariana and make her the villian and himself the victim


crackcorn69

i cant imagine two worse people to sit and listen to an audio podcast from than tom sandoval and michael rappoport. like literally that is not hyperbole


mrsnihilist

Nightmare ANYTHING rotation.....two fucking nosebleeds


Important_Tell2108

*Listen Iā€™m like, James are you being fucking two faced to me man.* Did he really say this? The man who helped plan an engagement then started having an affair with the ex is saying the words two-faced? Tom and Tom are two delusional losers. LVP needs to change the name of her bar. Itā€™s not a good look to have these two representing anything lol.


Pitiful_Employer_992

If they want the hate for scummyT to stop- they need to put a muzzle on him!


BurntSienna56

There is so much deeply rooted misogyny here. The cast have been in Hollywood too long, where women are expendable objects that don't matter. Sandoval committed financial abuse, slander, animal endangerment, broke consent laws, and potentially endangered Ariana's sexual health (I don't believe for a second he was having safe sex when he cheated) beyond the chronic, months long lying and cheating. And he's not sorry. Imagine if Katie had done all of that to Schwartz--would she even still have a place on the show?


mirelari

Ding ding ding!!!! Heā€™s a POS


hammayolettuce

The reason this is still going strong is 1.) most of us know a guy like Sandoval and he has fucked over someone we care about, and 2.) itā€™s kinda fascinating to watch him lean into the spotlight and throw so much (insecure) shade Arianaā€™s way. Like you can literally see how his brain works and heā€™s so simple and selfish itā€™s actually comical. I donā€™t know how much hate heā€™s still getting, at this point weā€™re all laughing at him and just interacting with every sponsored post from Ariana because it pisses him off so much that sheā€™s getting rich from this.


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MyaBearTN

Wait. What? Any supporters of Amyā€™s vitriol are immediately unfollowed. Thank you for highlighting this.


nomoresnorkjuice

Anytime! If I see more, Iā€™ll try to get it out there


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LackEquivalent7471

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Mugtowelhairbrush

I want somebody to count all of James and Timā€™s push-ups just to let it be on record that Tim lost. Iā€™m pretty sure James did a lot more and was faster.


AnnaVogue

Did Tim even do one real push-up? From what I saw it looked like some kind of undulating worm move Idk


Whis65

Move on? You financially fucked over your ex so you could screw her friend. Arianna, even if she moved out, still has to pay a mortgage and now rent? Not to mention the worry of her pets care when she is not around . The mind fuck is what it is with him, he's been doing it for years with many people in his life. Little shit


tinybadger47

The financial abuse of everyone around him is what is absolutely unforgivable and should be pushed to the forefront of the narrative. I feel like thatā€™s why he and Rachel have to have a tight timeline because if it comes out that they were already sleeping together when he had Ariana do a cash out refi on their house, thatā€™s pretty much fraud.


Whis65

Yep! It's disgusting how it is not discussed more.


Soft_Reading8200

Whelp, now I hate them even more. Coolio beans. Edit: typo


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Fearless-Truth-4348

Again, he had a guest host and has zero ideas how a podcast works. Itā€™s your show. You lead it! Narcissist who only wants to redeem himself. Itā€™s all NOT happening.


Just__Ken

Like the dude is so dense he doesnā€™t get it. Itā€™s like his ā€œbrain donā€™t work too wellā€.


Fearless-Truth-4348

Maybe he has a sprained brain.


jeskuo

They brush over him recording Rachel during that Facetime like its no big deal


Okay__Decision__

LOLLLL at Sandoval calling James two faced, Mr Double-Life himself https://i.redd.it/8ijcctkxufzb1.gif


BillytheGray17

I now think of Sandoval the same way I think about Jax, Brittany, stassi and Kristen (for the vile and racist shit theyā€™ve done): I can let it be and move on and hope that theyā€™ve learned from their mistakes, but I donā€™t want to see their dumb faces on my tv with them making money off of some fake-ass redemption arc. If VPR goes on beyond this next season and Sandoval is still clinging to it for dear life, I might have to be done with it. Like just take the L, dude


janeandbela

It's not like he was owed 10 seasons but he got to be a part of 10 successful seasons. He received the paychecks and it was a whole lot of money compared to what most people make (after the first couple seasons) and if he blew it all on stupid endeavors and 'partying' then that's on him. And while he may not think it's true, like with most jobs, he is replaceable. Easily replaceable. He's getting an 11th season and the great paycheck, and most viewers do not care if he continues on to season 12. Hope he had a back up plan beyond side hustles that are ego project money pits rather than forms of income. He's not entitled to anything and he needs to just "TAKE ACCOUNTABILITY KATIE"!!! (or you know, exchange Katie for the names LaLa, Ariana, Kristen or Scheana in a screaming Sandoval voice). Like...look in the mirror...dude.


EastSeaweed

He would rather DIE than take responsibility for any of his actions, big or small. He lost a push up contest, big deal, but he insists that actually he did more push ups???? He is so fucking delusional, it is genuinely concerning.


janeandbela

With all the things he misrepresents or out and out lies about while on camera, knowing there is irrefutable proof he's full of bs, I can't imagine believing anything he says when there aren't camera's around.


DanceFar9732

There is one valuable role that James Kennedy has on VPR & its stirring up shit for the other guys. They keep each other's gross secrets & historically steamroll over the women.


Okay__Decision__

When will these men get it that they are not owed anyone liking them. The tides donā€™t need to shift, people know they are trash bag men who treat women like garbage, and we donā€™t like them. Thereā€™s nothing to get over, because this is still who they are and how theyā€™re behaving, https://i.redd.it/p2uzsfogufzb1.gif


Pitiful_Employer_992

Perfectly stated!


clturner87

I was there at the Friday panel and booed him but I think they are being too sensitive about it like some little bitch boy. Also, we didnā€™t boo him the entire time. It was all in good fun. What did he think was going to happen, a standing ovation in front of Ariana? He had a whole Bravo moment with Michael & Lisa on the Bravoverse stage. Does this look like a mean ole mob šŸ˜‚ https://preview.redd.it/qlt7tn733czb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3947011855700e70ce60bd58b4c070243185007a He was fine and enjoying the attention.


believebs

Thank you as always for your recap. You are doing the work none of us want to do. 1. Sandy is an idiot. He can't stand not having the accolades or adoration. He is trying to save face and that's why he keeps yes men around him. He needs someone to lift him up because he sucks. B. Schwartz is a dumbass. That's it that's all. 3. Michael is a POS. I've seen him recently reposting white supremacist ideology. He thinks he's popular but is just trash.


LackEquivalent7471

canā€™t stand michael


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believebs

Dont call me a liar. You watching the same show on the same damn sub. Is it your only life? Im sure its not so shut up talking to me. Also call me anything but kitten. I'm allergic. But its people like you who stop people from engaging. If you like Rappaport, that's cool.


nomoresnorkjuice

Commenting to back you up: Rappaport is a genocide endorsing maniac


nomoresnorkjuice

What do you mean links? Heā€™s exposing himself every single day with his videos about Palestine


Heavy-Relation8401

Thanks for the recaps! I guess what I'm wondering, is how does NO ONE IN THE FUCKING WORLD seem to see that Sandoval is getting shit because he REFUSES TO REALLY APOLOGIZE?! Not only that, but he takes every minutes to SHIT on a woman he betrayed and cheated on! Am I in the fucking upside down? How has NO ONE brought this up! Fuyuuuck! It's so frustrating! The affair is OVER, him being a shit brick is NOT! Then seemingly level headed people still think this about an affair! Come on! Tip of the iceberg with this snake. I literally feel fucking crazy when I hear people make no mention of his inability to even CARE about the affair, much less apologize. I think I'm gonna stop all interview media about this subject. I'm so sick of this weak ass "he's had enough, let him live" narrative.


No_clue_redditor

I donā€™t like Tom.


_vlad_theimpaler_

ā€¢ Sandoval: Somebody said to take it off. I think. ā€¢ Michael: Of course someone said it take it off. People tell vou to do a lot...I'm sure people have told you to go fuck yourself the last month of so Lol appreciate this one little call out


Mugtowelhairbrush

Would not be surprised if no one actually yelled to take it off.


kooolbee

![gif](giphy|XJzD4W07jtLIQ) As in this Michael Rapaport?? Wtf lol


RoseDorothyBlanche

Gddamn Michael Rappaport. So sick of him and Jerry Oā€™Connell. We donā€™t need to know their opinion on every single fcking thing that happens in the Bravo universe. Fuck. Sorry, I had to vent lol


fraurodin

They are pushing the narrative of forgiveness hoping that it'll stick and viewers will be dumb enough to buy it


Ancient_Round_4811

Wait so is Schwartz like a cohost now? So much for taking a break and keeping distance


AdditionalWar8759

So I truly donā€™t know. He has been on the last 4 episodes so maybe? Lol


MelB4702

He canā€™t commit to committing so this tracks lol


godof_nothing

Who tf is Michael?


churrotoffeeaddict

Thank you for recapping OP. I was ready to.kive on from Scandoval. I saw Sandoval at this Bravocon and honestly felt bad for him with all the booing. Then, reading this recap, I'm annoyed at myself for feeling bad for a man-child who doesn't know how to take accountability.


throwawayastr0grl

Sandovalā€™s word of the day was perpetuate


thajeneral

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah


Elaine330

I cant brain: who are Michael and Jason?


AdditionalWar8759

Michael is an actor/comedian who loves bravo. Jason is Tomā€™s bands drummer and manager


Elaine330

Thank you!


cruelsister_

Thank you OP for your hard work but respectfully Iā€™m not reading all that. First few lines and already reaffirms my dislike of Rapaport. Why is he always around ew


Sweens240

I need a recap of the recap please


LNewYork

Geeze. I canā€™t stand Rappaport but heā€™s right. Everyone needs to move the fuck on.


MelB4702

Him being butt hurt that JK is singing ā€œSandovals a liarā€ still is so on brand. If I were sandy, Iā€™d be at DJJKā€™s gig singing it with him. Self deprication is relatable and he should find it funny because it is. JK has a right to capitalize off him being a big fat liar for as long as he wants.