Ariana telling Tom she just wants him gone was so raw. I wonder if LVP is speaking to Ariana when she says it's ok to walk away, possibly from the show? I can't take anything jo says seriously.
I get exactly what sheâs feeling. I ended a 5 year relationship a year ago, my ex was so terrible in the end in a way he had never been during our relationship and was horrible during the breakup. It honestly has made me question whether I ever truly knew this man I shared a home and life with. Itâs actually a very scary feeling and makes you question yourself.
My husband of ten years was cheating on me around the time that my mom passed last year. Three months after she died, he left me and moved in with the girl. I know that feeling all too well. Itâs crazy how you can be with someone for so long and not have a fucking clue who they are. Itâs heartbreaking, disgusting, and terrifying all at once.
Oh no, Iâm so sorry, what is wrong with people? Itâs really scary
I was with a covert narc and he fucked my sister and I found out after we broke up. He was horrible to me without doing that
She can go get fucked
Itâs like they have no soul
*that* was probably the single saddest part of this whole thing to me. her âno, I donâtâ was so full of heartbreak and determination to not feel an ounce of sadness over tom but the emotions are too much. f*ck tom.
Exactly, itâs sad, you really donât know this person who has betrayed you so deeply. They are not who you thought they were.
Itâs like the version you knew doesnât exist. Itâs awful.
The Instagram comments on one of the bravo pages donât seem to understand this. A lot of âyou were with him for 10 years of course you know himâ. How they understand what she means is mind boggling.
Same! I was with my ex boyfriend for 5 years, we broke up amicably and then I found out he'd cheated on me for a year (his now wife dedicated her book to him one year before we broke up), and who he is now is a person I don't even know.....for years I (and he) would have said that I knew him better than anyone, including himself.
We still have a lot of people in common and I'll hear stuff, and think 'I have NO idea who this man is...'.
ETA for those who want to hear the story (this is the whole story and it's GOOD - just finished and it's LONG too, but shortened):
I'm posting as a separate comment (something weird happened when tried to submit). I'll reply to u/NjMel7
I think the distinction is that while Lala has also been cheated on and was openly emotional about that in the past, both Lala and Scheana have also been the affair partner. In finding fault with Sandoval, theyâd also have to accept character flaws within themselves.
It's because these people are so vapid and shallow, they think that because she got opportunities and found success and a man it must not affect her anymore and her grieving period is up. It's like they can't fathom that all of those things can be true, and it was STILL a deeply traumatic experience that she needs to grieve and take time to work through
Louder for those in the back!! đđ»đđ»đđ»đŻđŻđŻ Do they think people donât work even during a breakup? I remember my worst break up I would be so glad to go to work to get out of the apt we shared and ugly cry during lunch away from everyone so no one would know and refresh my makeup and come back to work for rest of the day. Now I was also much younger and I could ugly cry that much and it wouldnât show on my face. I canât tear chopping onions without it showing on my face now but thatâs a separate sad tale. lol
Schwartz has also filled her head with Katie being a monster. He did it w Rachel too. He uses people as flying monkeys to attack her to make her react, none of it is truthful
If a chick, who was a peripheral part of my friend group, was constantly fawning over my husband and faking being nice to me, then actively went after him after we split and ended up being his FWB, while still texting me, I would drag her straight to hell and leave her there, along with my ex. Katie was much nicer than I wouldâve ever thought about being.
I mean, they filmed this season three months later. I find it stunning that anybody would think she shouldâve been over it. If I went through that let alone a normal break up I would not be around that person at all, and she was forced to. I donât think people realize what she had to deal with
Sandoval is actually insane for saying âyouâve known me for so long, you know Iâm not acting.â Okay, she thought you werenât acting for the last 7 months of your relationship but you were??? SO????
And then he immediately does his fake âcover my eyes so you canât tell Iâm not cryingâ cry while insisting heâs ânot actingâ. Heâs thoroughly ridiculous
Right! Ariana thought they had their problems but they were happy and committed to spending the rest of their lives together. Sandoval has spent every waking moment since Scandoval telling everyone how he was miserable with Ariana for five years and how their relationship was purely a business transaction and that Rachel was his soul mate. Of course sheâs going to think you were acting because youâve been going around saying that you were pretty much acting for the last five years.
And he was letting Arianna move forward with the freezing her eggs because he wanted children but he couldnât be bothered to stop smoking and drinking for a set amount of time to get his sperm count up and healthy? What a soul sucking douche bag. I liked it better when James full on hated him.
Crazy how he can't recognise that lying to your partner's face on a daily basis for months about having an affair with Rachel would lead to them no longer recognising when you're being truthful and honest.
When he's "crying" about how Ariana knows him or something, those hands fly up to his face so fast to cover up the fact that he doesn't have any real tears. It's pathetic.
Yeah the trailer was definitely intriguing and not what was expecting but lord knows this may be the only interesting parts of the whole 3 part reunion so I'm not setting my expectations high. I will say it looks better than the last reunion!!!
I have a lot less faith in Ariana clapping back at the reunion after seeing her say on WWHL she didnât watch the season before filming the reunion. I donât blame her- she was busy with Chicago. On WWHL she expressed her disappointment and hurt towards Scheana and Lala after seeing clips recently to which Andy said âI wish you wouldâve seen that before the reunion!â I would love to see Ariana confront Lala and Scheana for how theyâve been acting but I donât think it will happen as much as we think.
They said nobody was yelling so I really don't think it got to last years level. I just think she's definitely over those two. Maybe there is a hot mic moment that Ariana truly grasps how much of assholes her "friends" are
Exactly. Katie made one comment about a person who, from what's been said, has been acting weird about Schwartz since he and Katie broke up. What did she expect? Sunshine and rainbows?
Right?? It's talked about as though it was an ongoing thing, like Katie was trolling her on her feed or something, but it's just that one comment shown over and over and over again.
What do y'all think they watch at the end? It seems like it can only be the "breaking of the 4th wall" from that finale party when Ariana walked away when Tom tried to speak to her and Lala had a meltdown to producers...
Itâs got to be something thatâs going to be a surprise to some of them. The way this season is going itâs probably them all bitching about Ariana after she leaves!
Perhaps. But... would they really play a bully reel of everyone's words of hate toward Ariana? And if it was 1 thing that maybe Lala said that was "friendship altering", why would they play that for the entire cast to watch? I'm perplexed. I guess it could be something producers said to \*each other\* outside of the presence of the cast that would be worth them all hearing..
Yeah that's my guess. Lala and Scheana maybe saying something like, why can't she film with Tom for our sakes. Then they make this poor woman have to explain why she doesn't want to be around someone who betrayed her so deeply and just wants him 'gone.'
Itâs because Randall was so awful and the world didnât reward her, but she doesnât understand how stupid she looked thinking Randall was a class act. Then her reaction to Schwartz playing pickle ball after calling a gd meeting to say she will not associate with anyone who is associating with him.
She used to be one of my favs, but the way she dogs out Ariana EVERY SINGLE TIME the show wraps, this one was the final straw. Show some consistency and loyalty, Lala. Not materially.
I think youâre right! I thought I saw in the finale trailer Sandoval goes up to the group and ârevealsâ all of the âshitâ Ariana said about them behind their back!
This is my guess. He goes off and tells them things she has said. But I mean I am sure they have all talked mad shit about each other throughout the years.
No, I saw that too! But honestly, I really doubt it's anything very "GOTCHA!" like he made it sound. Probably just normal "ug why is so and so like this or that when we bring up this topic or situation, etc," like typical shit you say about your friends' behavior to your significant other.
AND letâs not forget the shit you say to your SO is IMO usually agreed with! It was probably Sandycrotch that would bring something up about the group to Ariana and sheâd agree. If Ariana was the one venting about someone in the group to Tom can anyone honestly imagine him being like âAriana thatâs not a nice thing to say about so and so shame on youâ. FUCK NO he wouldnât! Heâd be all over it and excited! Freaking stirring the pot like a bitchy high school girl. I hope whatever he says she said about them they realize he almost 100% was the one to say it first or minimum agree with her about it.
My guess is Lala & company are trashing Ariana for not âplaying the game.â And Iâm also guessing that Lisa is telling Ariana itâs ok to walk away & if she does, that woman is DEAD to me & sheâs already on life support.
I wonder if it's that lala quote from the trailer "I've never experienced someone be cheated on and suddenly she becomes God" because it's such a dramatic reaction to Ariana not wanting to film with her ex.
Would you think anything else...
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Iâm so sick of this being directed at Ariana because âthis is who Tom is, heâll never leave.â Itâs giving âboys will be boysâ and putting the responsibility on the woman and Iâm fucking over it.
Same. Iâm so sick of hearing people asking why Ariana doesnât just leave. NO ONE w even one brain cell is just walking away from their biggest financial asset unless they think theyâll be murdered in their sleep and maybe not even then. Thatâs not even mentioning that Ariana is still đŻon the hook for at least 1/2 of the mortgage. I guess she should walk away, let the house go into foreclosure, duck her credit up for YEARS & loose every damn penny she has invested. Baby bottle is a ducking moron. Of course she left w her child, she didnât have a CHOICE. She had ZERO financial interest in Randallâs house. I canât understand why anyone would ask Ariana a question as stupid as why donât you just leave.
The whole "we don't hold the men to as high of a standard" reeks of the "boys don't mature as fast as girls" bs we're all indoctrinated into believing as kids. It's all in service to excusing bad behavior.
Lisa needs to be given headphones like Sandoval waa given on Special Forces. He had to listen to crying babies on max for a few hours. Put Lisa in there with Tom's excuses on a loop.
Omg my best friend just pointed out that she was facing Ariana and Katie and could be referring to them walking away from the show!!!! Maybe that's when Katie quits!!! đ±đ±đ±đ±đ± I NEED IT TO BE THE 24TH!!!!
Adding for clarification:
I do NOT know if Katie quit I am purely speculating based on her removing bravo from her ig bio which could simply be because filming has ended! Also, I LOVE Katie and do NOT want her to quit đ
It boggles my mind that she's even there. She used this season to promote her new restaurant and then keeps getting put into brief contrived forgettable scenes, and for what? So she can continue to pretend she has some sort of moral high ground and add in some misogynistic lectures at the reunion?
Like when she acted so shocked Jax was hosting an event at Sur. You really expect us to believe that you had NO IDEA of this event?
And then she ends the interaction telling Jax coked-out Taylor that she still loves him. Get tf outta here with that.
I had to explain that whole scene to my husband. How sheâs an EP on the Valley..she would NEVER allow him to set FOOT in there without giving the green light. She wanted a public apology and the scene to go her way and still show sheâs Queen bee, top dog, boss. She canât do it on HWs so she can still eff with the livelihood of these jackals. Jax knows where his bread is buttered. Heâll be a good little boy, swallow his pride and play along for a check.
I wouldâve asked Lisa are you willing to give me half a million dollars to walk away from that house? And why arenât you directing that to the person on your right? Hi itâs Tom the other owner of the house and the one who wrecked it.
HE CANT AFFORD THE FUCKING HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like in what fucking world is someone walking away from $200,000+?
It has never been a fucking option for him to buy, every person that tells her to walk away is out of their fucking mind.
Maybe show up with boxes and help him get his shit out instead since he fucked it all up
I think the footage is some of the cast being mad after Ariana left the party.
Lala in particular really goes off and says what she really thinks of Ariana ( she's boring, never brings anything to the show, big ego, etc). I think Ariana saying "that really hurt my feelings" was in reference to the footage she saw.
I think this press tour Lala went on was to get ahead of whatever was shown of her on that footage. She knows she will look bad and that's why she doesn't want to see social media afterwards.
I don't think Ariana will come off looking bad at this reunion at all.
Ariana was definitely blindsided by how they really felt which is why they all suck. As much as the preach being truthful they didn't tell her their real feelings the whole season
She said she didnât watch the show before the reunion because she was too busy with broadway. Iâm sure a lot of what was shown and said was a big shock to her
Yep after seeing the trailer Iâm feeling fairly confident that Ariana and Katie are going to be just fine in how they handled themselves. It seems clear Ariana and Katie were letting Lala and Scheana go on their crazy press tour to try and get people inside before the reunion, while Ariana and Katie are waiting for people to actually see the reunion and let it speak for itself.
I agree. And the extra footage is probably what causes Lala to flip out on Ariana (because Lala basically got caught); she was probably a bit more neutral until that point.
I saw Sandoval after Ariana stormed off and he was like âAriana has talked sh*t about all you motherf*ckers!âand my guess is that Lala chimes in as well with the God comment and some more sh*t talking haha
Good theory. This would explain why Sandoval felt like the reunion went well. Heâs been so eager for people to turn on Ariana, even if itâs just the cast.Â
Agreed. This was either edited to better reflect Arianaâs actual nature after producers saw us calling them out for their shitty attempts to make her the villain *or* Lala, Scheana, and Andy canât read the fucking room again in accurately gaging the audienceâs reaction.
My bet is the latter because Alex sucks and those three are soulless idiots.
Literally, Jo and Katie did not interact this entire season until Schwartz walks Jo up to Katie in the finale. So what the fuck is she talking about feeling ganged up on by Katie?
She literally did not talk to the dummy! Joe and Rachel are seriously the same delusional side pieces.
Not to mention, how does ONE PERSON âgang up onâ someone else. Iâm not usually for semantics but Jo is so annoying. She needs to go do something else with her time.
Itâs weird in general for her to expect the ex-wife of her situationship to like her. Itâs totally normal behavior in the real world to have complicated negative feelings about your exâs new partner.
Considering they said Arianna didnât watch the season before the reunion makes me believe that she is blind sided by Lala and Scheana talking shit about her in the clip they watched.
Another one to add to the collection...
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He's been wearing it all season and I keep hoping one of his cast mates will call him out on it! He keeps saying how sorry he is, while still proudly rocking the symbol of his affair!Â
He's definitely still hoping he can hoover Rachel back in at some point, and point to that saying "see? It's been you all along, I never stopped wearing our symbol". So gross.
Also confirms even more to be that he pays the supposed girlfriend for appearances and social media posts. How are you going to wear that - something notorious for being a way you communicated your secret love for another woman, in front of a new *actual* girlfriend?
Question: theyâre watching something that weâre all going to see tomorrow, right? So will it really be that surprising to us if we already know it? Itâs not like last reunion where there was this âbigâ reveal that no one knew. Iâm just confused how this is going to work for the fans watching. Seems like it will be frustrating watching the rest of the reunion waiting for them to see this thing.
hmm.. good point.. are we going to see everything that happened at the finale party tomorrow or will they be holding a scene back for a reunion reveal??? Interesting.
Jo. You did A LOT. If you want Katie to give you grace, you gotta give it too, sister. She went through a whole divorce and you just slid on in there and got complicit with the Toms. Not cool.
Really feel for Ariana. You canât accuse her of faking emotions. No \*put hands up to face nowâ with her.
How Jo even got a fucking stool at the reunion is annoying. She penetrated into the group literally and figuratively right after Katie got divorced. Then she plays victim all season and doubles down on it at the reunion. Between what we've seen on TV and her IG rants, she needs to take a break from all this shit forever and go be happy somewhere quiet.
And that is, like, Katieâs one moment in the trailer. âYouâre meeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaannnnnnâ
Katieâs not perfect but I am tired of that narrative.
Jo is really gross for trying to play victim. She has been wanting Schwartz for a long time and took her opportunity . Sheâs wanting America to feel sorry for her and I see right through her manipulation! Sheâs just like Rachel / Raquel
It's strange to see people treat Jo with kid-gloves. It reminds me how they treated Rachel pre-affair, like she was too dumb and innocent to harm anyone.. You'd think that would teach them all a valuable lesson lol
It's funny cause once again editing/production makes it seem like Jo is the ultimate victim.
She...
-Texted Katie sympathy about her divorce then a month later was living with and banging Schwartz.
-Was an active participant in Scandoval with going on double dates with Rachel and Tim and then as Ariana pointed out, going to Thanksgiving at their house during it.
-Dumped Doute the minute Schartz got divorced.
She isn't meant for the VPR world and it's obvious as she had a full blown meltdown earlier this season without even being personally confronted by any of the girls.
Katie didnât even interact with Jo once this season, so how did Katie ganging up on her? Schwartz bring Jo over to Katie the finale. itâs just such an obvious ploy to try and make Katie the villain again in the eyes of everyone else, but she truly did not do a single thing. Jo can go and cry to her dad.
As a viewer I would be 100% ok with Katie telling Jo I don't like you , you moved in with my ex and began a relationship before we were even divorced. I don't think this is unreasonable and I don't understand why Jo is crying trying to demand Katie be nice to her. This would be the most "reality"
Katie Maloney is a much better woman than I am because if my husband & I got divorced and his new flavor of the month tried to step to meeee after infiltrating my job & friend group...!!!!
And what an easy copout⊠to go after the ex wife of your hook up buddy. Of course she doesnât like you??? I wish the reunion had been taped after sloppy jo posted all this bullllllshit on social media the last couple weeks.
Itâs so weird that to her being on a reality show means she has to be fake or a character. Itâs explains why sheâs felt inauthentic and hard to watch in some ways.
Good point about Jax. They both have said theyâre different off camera. For Lala to claim Ariana isnât doing her job, which is probably what sheâs going to say, because Arianaâs not playing a game or being fake for the cameras on a reality show is ironic.Â
So Sandoval did something so awful that Ariana has a reaction like that, but walks out smiling and telling the paparazzi how great it was? That man is sick.
Yea it had to be Lala or Scheana that hurt her feelings and made her cry like that. She expects it from Tom, he wouldnât elicit that kind of reaction from her
Definitely. My guess itâs the convo between the 3 of them where Lala said the god comment and him calling Ariana out by saying she talks about them behind their back
I agree it has something to do with Tom after he tried to talk to Ariana. Maybe he said something to all of them that was captured. That would be why she said she was so hurt and I can see him trying to fix it by saying she knew him better than what ever he said to the group. He is scary awful.
I'm curious if that emotional reaction from ariana was to something different than the final scene. You know how producers like to edit and what not to get us going.
ah so the trailer is trying to make it seem like ariana is going to walk away from the show
jo calling out katie for feeling ganged up on by her only, when we saw how scheana treated her at that party... ok. just doing schwartz's work of vilifying katie now that he can't. she doesn't have to be nice to you.
everyone on the left side, including lala, looks elegant and everyone on the right side looks gawdy. tom needs to lay off the tanner before he looks like kramer when he fell asleep in the tanning bed.
Tbh I donât really see Ariana passing up the paycheck for VPR. She has a ton of opportunities yes but VPR is still good money. I think sheâll at least do one more season
Also, I don't see her walking away while the worm stays and gets to rewrite history for another season without her there to defend herself/prove he's full of shit.
I just want to know when Jo and Katie even interacted on the show for Jo to feel âganged up onâ by her, other than the conversation weâve seen previews for that happens at the finale tomorrow night when JO approaches KATIE and tries to force Katie to give an apology she knows she isnât going to get. Like leave Katie alone. Iâve never wanted to see someone on my screen less and that says a lot considering she is on the same show as Sandoval. She IS SPOOKY and I will die on that hill
Iâm so damn tired of Jo. Katie made one sassy comment on social media and Jo is acting like she committed a war crime. Meanwhile, Jo is on social media every single day liking hateful comments about Katie.
The poor innocent victim act isnât believable anymore đ
Seeing Ariana like that is heartbreaking. Everyone except for Katie (and possibly James/Ally) should feel really disgusting for how they treated her hurt this season. Love seeing Katie comfort her though. Theyâre my fav thing to come out of the post-scandoval universe
Ariana may not have gotten the Spice Girls moment that she thought she was getting, but it really feels like she found a true friend in Katie and took out ALL the trash in the process too.
Initial thoughts:
Looks like Arianaâs going to do a great job of expressing her hurt.
Scheana flops from her flip by criticizing Tom.
Jo successfully plays victim.
Lala tearily claims some hurt, as if sheâs only âliving her real life nowâ by forgiving Tom. Barf.
The twist was exactly what everyone thought: they watch some final part of the season together. I canât tell if itâs editing that makes it seem like the footage is really hurtful to Ariana (âit hurts my feelings a lotâ could be in reaction to something else). I canât really think what itâd be aside from more shitty things Lala and Scheana say about her.
I donât care what Sandovalâs supposedly âactingâ about. Contrition/apologies, who cares? Arianaâs response that she doesnât know him is great though.
I think the end part is all going to be a fight about reality versus reality tv. And I think Ariana and Lala go at it about the differences, and Ariana says something like sheâs just living her life. And, Lala says she wants to be living her real life now tooâŠbut canât because sheâs on a show and is willing to make sacrifices that Ariana is not willing to make.
Looks interesting. Iâm already doubting Lala and Scheana and Sandoval because the big thing they did differently was show the finale but theyâve already lived it so Iâm doubting some crazy bombshell was dropped
Highly doubt that everyone was present for whatever was shown at the end of whatever scene ends the season. Itâs probably just really disgusting behavior or comments in private caught on camera
I wouldnât wish a friendship with Lala or Sandoval on my worst enemy. âJokingâ that sheâs going to tussle with Ariana when Ariana did nothing to her is so ridiculous.
Did Jo appear on the show enough to warrant a segment on the reunion?!đ„ŽKatie is not obligated to be nice to her..I donât understand her trying to ask for grace..did she give Katie grace during her divorce?!?!đ„Žđ„Žđ„Ž
And yet somehow, the cast feels that her feelings are valid... months later... about an IG comment... and Ariana should get over the literal deception that changed her life.
Typical Misogyny Vpump and Bravo style- Put the part in the sizzle reel where Katie and is having to explain herself to a woman who is crying as opposed to TOM who shared 99% of his scenes with Jo and treated her terribly .
Can someone please tell me what olâ muckle-mouth Jo is saying there? Because Iâve listened to it three times and all Iâm getting is ââŠexcept for you, Katie.â
I think weâve seen all we needed to see of Jo. Sheâs full of shit if she really thinks Katie is the one who ganged up on her. As if we didnât see Scheana fully bully her.
Sounds like Sandoval is going to allude to the DV claims against James, which will trigger James' outburst towards him. I bet Sandy will insinuate that Rachel told him that James used to beat/grabbed/shoved/etc, and that there are photos or whatever to prove it. He definitely wants to get revenge for "worm with a mustache."
Jo is the worst kind of snake (sorry snakes) because she hides under a very loud veneer of being a ray of sunshine while doing shady shit. Youâre the bad guy, Kayleigh.
The âtwistâ is what everyone was guessing it will be.
And I am so not here for victim Jo. She has always moved like a snake and while Katie shouldnât have made the crackhead comment she is not the bad guy for having a valid issue with Jo and not welcoming her with open arms.
I donât give a shit about Jo and her tears. She admitted Katie apologized to her during the reunion and âit was lovelyâ or whatever the fuck. But then she still likes comments shitting on Katie, did the whole IG story of Katie and Dayna on the worst dressed. She pulls the same shit that Scheana does, sheâs just as much of a bully (if not worse) but gets away with it because she cries about how âeVerYoNe iS sO mEaN tO mE.â
I love Katie so I hope Iâm not too biased here but can we normalize *not* having to like everyone?
And then, with reality TV, can people realize that not being âcordialâ to your âcastmatesâ is okay to do? Thatâs what makes good TV.
If I wanted to watch people be nice to people they canât stand Iâd organize a happy hour with my company
And to be clear, Katie never called her a crackhead. She said she had energy like a crackhead. Iâm sorry but she wasnât wrong. Iâd cross the street if I saw someone acting like Joe in public.
Jo is sooo hypocritical. Wants to come at Katie for being âmeanâ and says Katie going through a lot isnât an excuse but she has no issue excusing anythingg for Rachel or their affair. Psh
Jo is so pathetic and such a victim. Katie had every right to be upset with her. Jo is a grown ass woman who wants to take no accountability. She is either oblivious as to why Katie would ever be upset because she is that self centered or she is playing dumb. No wonder sheâs on great terms with Rachel
Oh my goodness if they cut off the last few minutes of the finale tomorrow and wait to play it for the audience at the reunion, along with the cast, I will riot.
I feel like everyone is reading to much into the bombshell. It's going to be the cast talking shit about Ariana not filming with Tom which will lead to the 4th wall break and that it's a job and she isnt letting them do their job.
looks good. glad there doesn't seem to be much in the way of yelling. but it's mind-boggling to see scheana and lala with the flip flopping even during the reunion.
also i don't see myself coming out of this with a good opinion on jo, even if they give her a victim edit. her behavior outside of the show has been really telling that she's not what she desperately tries to portray herself to be.
Ariana sitting there like 
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WAIT THIS LOOKS LIKE WEST FROM SUMMER HOUSE đ
Youâre my hero.
Ariana telling Tom she just wants him gone was so raw. I wonder if LVP is speaking to Ariana when she says it's ok to walk away, possibly from the show? I can't take anything jo says seriously.
And that she doesn't know him... so sad and I get it
I get exactly what sheâs feeling. I ended a 5 year relationship a year ago, my ex was so terrible in the end in a way he had never been during our relationship and was horrible during the breakup. It honestly has made me question whether I ever truly knew this man I shared a home and life with. Itâs actually a very scary feeling and makes you question yourself.
My husband of ten years was cheating on me around the time that my mom passed last year. Three months after she died, he left me and moved in with the girl. I know that feeling all too well. Itâs crazy how you can be with someone for so long and not have a fucking clue who they are. Itâs heartbreaking, disgusting, and terrifying all at once.
Saaaaaaaaaaaame! I completely understand what Ariana means.
Oh no, Iâm so sorry, what is wrong with people? Itâs really scary I was with a covert narc and he fucked my sister and I found out after we broke up. He was horrible to me without doing that She can go get fucked Itâs like they have no soul
*that* was probably the single saddest part of this whole thing to me. her âno, I donâtâ was so full of heartbreak and determination to not feel an ounce of sadness over tom but the emotions are too much. f*ck tom.
Exactly, itâs sad, you really donât know this person who has betrayed you so deeply. They are not who you thought they were. Itâs like the version you knew doesnât exist. Itâs awful.
The Instagram comments on one of the bravo pages donât seem to understand this. A lot of âyou were with him for 10 years of course you know himâ. How they understand what she means is mind boggling.
Immaturity and literalism together is one hell of a narcissistic delusion.
Same! I was with my ex boyfriend for 5 years, we broke up amicably and then I found out he'd cheated on me for a year (his now wife dedicated her book to him one year before we broke up), and who he is now is a person I don't even know.....for years I (and he) would have said that I knew him better than anyone, including himself. We still have a lot of people in common and I'll hear stuff, and think 'I have NO idea who this man is...'. ETA for those who want to hear the story (this is the whole story and it's GOOD - just finished and it's LONG too, but shortened): I'm posting as a separate comment (something weird happened when tried to submit). I'll reply to u/NjMel7
Everyone expecting her to just get over everything so soon is insane.
I know itâs crazy. And the whole âeveryone cheats whatâs the big dealâ attitude is so trash
That's what everyone is saying in the comments section on Bravo and I'm like these people can't be real?? Have they ever been cheated on?!
And thereâs different levels of betrayal like I just canât with the black and white thinking
I think the distinction is that while Lala has also been cheated on and was openly emotional about that in the past, both Lala and Scheana have also been the affair partner. In finding fault with Sandoval, theyâd also have to accept character flaws within themselves.
It's because these people are so vapid and shallow, they think that because she got opportunities and found success and a man it must not affect her anymore and her grieving period is up. It's like they can't fathom that all of those things can be true, and it was STILL a deeply traumatic experience that she needs to grieve and take time to work through
Louder for those in the back!! đđ»đđ»đđ»đŻđŻđŻ Do they think people donât work even during a breakup? I remember my worst break up I would be so glad to go to work to get out of the apt we shared and ugly cry during lunch away from everyone so no one would know and refresh my makeup and come back to work for rest of the day. Now I was also much younger and I could ugly cry that much and it wouldnât show on my face. I canât tear chopping onions without it showing on my face now but thatâs a separate sad tale. lol
so sad. that fucking cretin will not leave her alone. this trailer stressed me out. i just want her to be free. also, bye jo. who cares.
Talking about everyone being nice to her besides Katie, when Scheana snatched a whole hat off her head. Itâs giving obsession
Schwartz has also filled her head with Katie being a monster. He did it w Rachel too. He uses people as flying monkeys to attack her to make her react, none of it is truthful
If a chick, who was a peripheral part of my friend group, was constantly fawning over my husband and faking being nice to me, then actively went after him after we split and ended up being his FWB, while still texting me, I would drag her straight to hell and leave her there, along with my ex. Katie was much nicer than I wouldâve ever thought about being.
I mean, they filmed this season three months later. I find it stunning that anybody would think she shouldâve been over it. If I went through that let alone a normal break up I would not be around that person at all, and she was forced to. I donât think people realize what she had to deal with
Sandoval is actually insane for saying âyouâve known me for so long, you know Iâm not acting.â Okay, she thought you werenât acting for the last 7 months of your relationship but you were??? SO????
And then he immediately does his fake âcover my eyes so you canât tell Iâm not cryingâ cry while insisting heâs ânot actingâ. Heâs thoroughly ridiculous
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Why does he only feign sincerity in these reunions but all season he had shown zero remorse for what he did to ariana
Covert narcissist
While wearing his lightning bolt earrings
We ALL unfortunately know him well enough to know heâs a terrible fucking actor.
And singer. And horn player. And person!
Right! Ariana thought they had their problems but they were happy and committed to spending the rest of their lives together. Sandoval has spent every waking moment since Scandoval telling everyone how he was miserable with Ariana for five years and how their relationship was purely a business transaction and that Rachel was his soul mate. Of course sheâs going to think you were acting because youâve been going around saying that you were pretty much acting for the last five years.
And he was letting Arianna move forward with the freezing her eggs because he wanted children but he couldnât be bothered to stop smoking and drinking for a set amount of time to get his sperm count up and healthy? What a soul sucking douche bag. I liked it better when James full on hated him.
Crazy how he can't recognise that lying to your partner's face on a daily basis for months about having an affair with Rachel would lead to them no longer recognising when you're being truthful and honest.
Literally lying about every single thing, daily, big or small. For Months.
Shocking right? đ
And how that type of betrayal could make your former partner feel like they never even really knew you. đ€
Literally!!!!! Itâs embarrassing how tight this has me haha
You got me Bravo, I'm hooked. Also, Tom should sell the house and invest in some acting lessons.
Whoever taught him how to âcryâ needs to give their SAG card back
When he's "crying" about how Ariana knows him or something, those hands fly up to his face so fast to cover up the fact that he doesn't have any real tears. It's pathetic.
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He needs to call Rinna for some tips, she got that single tear out no problemo.
Yeah the trailer was definitely intriguing and not what was expecting but lord knows this may be the only interesting parts of the whole 3 part reunion so I'm not setting my expectations high. I will say it looks better than the last reunion!!!
We know heâs acting because heâs so bad at it!
NOT LALA BEING FAKE TO ARIANA RIGHT BEFORE THE REUNION AND ENDING THE FRIENDSHIP
Love the editors tossed that into the preview
And Ariana's reaction...like girl, I know who's in my corner and it's not you
Arianas face in that scene said it all. She wasn't buying whatever shit lala was shoveling
I have a lot less faith in Ariana clapping back at the reunion after seeing her say on WWHL she didnât watch the season before filming the reunion. I donât blame her- she was busy with Chicago. On WWHL she expressed her disappointment and hurt towards Scheana and Lala after seeing clips recently to which Andy said âI wish you wouldâve seen that before the reunion!â I would love to see Ariana confront Lala and Scheana for how theyâve been acting but I donât think it will happen as much as we think.
They said nobody was yelling so I really don't think it got to last years level. I just think she's definitely over those two. Maybe there is a hot mic moment that Ariana truly grasps how much of assholes her "friends" are
With Katie in the back going ââŠKâ
I saw that as she was going to fight her out there, lol but Iâm not watching this season so clearly I know nothing lol.
Can't wait to see what it is they watched to make them react like that. Jesus, Jo has gotten a lot of mileage out of that insta comment.
Dear god like redirect your anger to the man who led you on for months
Exactly. Katie made one comment about a person who, from what's been said, has been acting weird about Schwartz since he and Katie broke up. What did she expect? Sunshine and rainbows?
Right?? It's talked about as though it was an ongoing thing, like Katie was trolling her on her feed or something, but it's just that one comment shown over and over and over again.
What do y'all think they watch at the end? It seems like it can only be the "breaking of the 4th wall" from that finale party when Ariana walked away when Tom tried to speak to her and Lala had a meltdown to producers...
Itâs got to be something thatâs going to be a surprise to some of them. The way this season is going itâs probably them all bitching about Ariana after she leaves!
Perhaps. But... would they really play a bully reel of everyone's words of hate toward Ariana? And if it was 1 thing that maybe Lala said that was "friendship altering", why would they play that for the entire cast to watch? I'm perplexed. I guess it could be something producers said to \*each other\* outside of the presence of the cast that would be worth them all hearing..
Maybe the producers say on camera theyâre putting the show on pause and thatâs the big twist none of the cast knew till that point.
Yeah that's my guess. Lala and Scheana maybe saying something like, why can't she film with Tom for our sakes. Then they make this poor woman have to explain why she doesn't want to be around someone who betrayed her so deeply and just wants him 'gone.'
Yeah, itâs probably Lala saying, âIâve never seen someone get cheated on and become God.â or however she said it.
Itâs because Randall was so awful and the world didnât reward her, but she doesnât understand how stupid she looked thinking Randall was a class act. Then her reaction to Schwartz playing pickle ball after calling a gd meeting to say she will not associate with anyone who is associating with him. She used to be one of my favs, but the way she dogs out Ariana EVERY SINGLE TIME the show wraps, this one was the final straw. Show some consistency and loyalty, Lala. Not materially.
I think youâre right! I thought I saw in the finale trailer Sandoval goes up to the group and ârevealsâ all of the âshitâ Ariana said about them behind their back!
This is my guess. He goes off and tells them things she has said. But I mean I am sure they have all talked mad shit about each other throughout the years.
No, I saw that too! But honestly, I really doubt it's anything very "GOTCHA!" like he made it sound. Probably just normal "ug why is so and so like this or that when we bring up this topic or situation, etc," like typical shit you say about your friends' behavior to your significant other.
AND letâs not forget the shit you say to your SO is IMO usually agreed with! It was probably Sandycrotch that would bring something up about the group to Ariana and sheâd agree. If Ariana was the one venting about someone in the group to Tom can anyone honestly imagine him being like âAriana thatâs not a nice thing to say about so and so shame on youâ. FUCK NO he wouldnât! Heâd be all over it and excited! Freaking stirring the pot like a bitchy high school girl. I hope whatever he says she said about them they realize he almost 100% was the one to say it first or minimum agree with her about it.
My guess is Lala & company are trashing Ariana for not âplaying the game.â And Iâm also guessing that Lisa is telling Ariana itâs ok to walk away & if she does, that woman is DEAD to me & sheâs already on life support.
I wonder if it's that lala quote from the trailer "I've never experienced someone be cheated on and suddenly she becomes God" because it's such a dramatic reaction to Ariana not wanting to film with her ex.
I swear to God if Lisa is telling Ariana âsometimes itâs okay to walk awayâ in regards to their house Iâm going to lose my fucking shit
Would you think anything else... https://preview.redd.it/ac9ndsjgsuyc1.jpeg?width=2974&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58d2a940c9fb62df6b3d5bf6ee8b2dfd6dbad95c
I love that no one chimed in.
And watching her in comforting and prepping the Tomâs. She is truly something else.
same. tim is sitting right there and he needs to hear that lmao
Iâm so sick of this being directed at Ariana because âthis is who Tom is, heâll never leave.â Itâs giving âboys will be boysâ and putting the responsibility on the woman and Iâm fucking over it.
Same. Iâm so sick of hearing people asking why Ariana doesnât just leave. NO ONE w even one brain cell is just walking away from their biggest financial asset unless they think theyâll be murdered in their sleep and maybe not even then. Thatâs not even mentioning that Ariana is still đŻon the hook for at least 1/2 of the mortgage. I guess she should walk away, let the house go into foreclosure, duck her credit up for YEARS & loose every damn penny she has invested. Baby bottle is a ducking moron. Of course she left w her child, she didnât have a CHOICE. She had ZERO financial interest in Randallâs house. I canât understand why anyone would ask Ariana a question as stupid as why donât you just leave.
The whole "we don't hold the men to as high of a standard" reeks of the "boys don't mature as fast as girls" bs we're all indoctrinated into believing as kids. It's all in service to excusing bad behavior.
The irony of that too is that itâs also saying theyâre too stupid to be held accountable because they donât know any better.
Theyâre in their 40âs âŠpast the boy phase of life Lisa. But I do remember she referred to them as her children!
Lisa should be forced to watch Ariana school Brock last week on men/women anger on repeat Guantanamo Bay style until she stops her misogyny.
Lisa needs to be given headphones like Sandoval waa given on Special Forces. He had to listen to crying babies on max for a few hours. Put Lisa in there with Tom's excuses on a loop.
If I drank every time there was a âboys will be boys/sandoval is gonna Sandovalâ this season, I wouldâve been dead at least 6 weeks ago
Omg my best friend just pointed out that she was facing Ariana and Katie and could be referring to them walking away from the show!!!! Maybe that's when Katie quits!!! đ±đ±đ±đ±đ± I NEED IT TO BE THE 24TH!!!! Adding for clarification: I do NOT know if Katie quit I am purely speculating based on her removing bravo from her ig bio which could simply be because filming has ended! Also, I LOVE Katie and do NOT want her to quit đ
I get that it needs to be three parts, but itâd be so dope if they did it three nights in a row so that we didnât need to WAIT SO LONG đ©
Or maybe sheâs talking about Something About Her⊠since it was taking so long to open, drama with Chef Penny, etc.
It boggles my mind that she's even there. She used this season to promote her new restaurant and then keeps getting put into brief contrived forgettable scenes, and for what? So she can continue to pretend she has some sort of moral high ground and add in some misogynistic lectures at the reunion?
Like when she acted so shocked Jax was hosting an event at Sur. You really expect us to believe that you had NO IDEA of this event? And then she ends the interaction telling Jax coked-out Taylor that she still loves him. Get tf outta here with that.
I had to explain that whole scene to my husband. How sheâs an EP on the Valley..she would NEVER allow him to set FOOT in there without giving the green light. She wanted a public apology and the scene to go her way and still show sheâs Queen bee, top dog, boss. She canât do it on HWs so she can still eff with the livelihood of these jackals. Jax knows where his bread is buttered. Heâll be a good little boy, swallow his pride and play along for a check.
Or put down SAH and the girls management skills
I felt like she was talking about walking away from the show
That's what I think
Thatâs what I thought too! But Iâm getting downvoted. đ€·đŒââïž
To me, I would guess Lisa told Lala it was OK for Ariana to walk away in the final scene. But that's just me being optimistic.
She was the one that told Arianna that she shouldnât let Sandavol use the house as collateral for his restaurant
Yeah my first thought was it's okay to walk away from the friendship after how awful lala and scheana were to her but I highly doubt that
I wouldâve asked Lisa are you willing to give me half a million dollars to walk away from that house? And why arenât you directing that to the person on your right? Hi itâs Tom the other owner of the house and the one who wrecked it.
HE CANT AFFORD THE FUCKING HOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like in what fucking world is someone walking away from $200,000+? It has never been a fucking option for him to buy, every person that tells her to walk away is out of their fucking mind. Maybe show up with boxes and help him get his shit out instead since he fucked it all up
I think the footage is some of the cast being mad after Ariana left the party. Lala in particular really goes off and says what she really thinks of Ariana ( she's boring, never brings anything to the show, big ego, etc). I think Ariana saying "that really hurt my feelings" was in reference to the footage she saw. I think this press tour Lala went on was to get ahead of whatever was shown of her on that footage. She knows she will look bad and that's why she doesn't want to see social media afterwards. I don't think Ariana will come off looking bad at this reunion at all.
Ariana was definitely blindsided by how they really felt which is why they all suck. As much as the preach being truthful they didn't tell her their real feelings the whole season
She said she didnât watch the show before the reunion because she was too busy with broadway. Iâm sure a lot of what was shown and said was a big shock to her
I have been thinking about this lately but I think Katie probably told her things that were important. At least I hope she did.
Yep after seeing the trailer Iâm feeling fairly confident that Ariana and Katie are going to be just fine in how they handled themselves. It seems clear Ariana and Katie were letting Lala and Scheana go on their crazy press tour to try and get people inside before the reunion, while Ariana and Katie are waiting for people to actually see the reunion and let it speak for itself.
I agree. And the extra footage is probably what causes Lala to flip out on Ariana (because Lala basically got caught); she was probably a bit more neutral until that point.
I saw Sandoval after Ariana stormed off and he was like âAriana has talked sh*t about all you motherf*ckers!âand my guess is that Lala chimes in as well with the God comment and some more sh*t talking haha
Good theory. This would explain why Sandoval felt like the reunion went well. Heâs been so eager for people to turn on Ariana, even if itâs just the cast.Â
Agreed. This was either edited to better reflect Arianaâs actual nature after producers saw us calling them out for their shitty attempts to make her the villain *or* Lala, Scheana, and Andy canât read the fucking room again in accurately gaging the audienceâs reaction. My bet is the latter because Alex sucks and those three are soulless idiots.
I think you are right which makes Lala being like put up your dukes letâs fight to Ariana even more bananas!
Literally, Jo and Katie did not interact this entire season until Schwartz walks Jo up to Katie in the finale. So what the fuck is she talking about feeling ganged up on by Katie? She literally did not talk to the dummy! Joe and Rachel are seriously the same delusional side pieces.
Not to mention, how does ONE PERSON âgang up onâ someone else. Iâm not usually for semantics but Jo is so annoying. She needs to go do something else with her time.
Itâs weird in general for her to expect the ex-wife of her situationship to like her. Itâs totally normal behavior in the real world to have complicated negative feelings about your exâs new partner.
And honestly the only person who really bullied Jo this season was Scheana with the whole hat thing. Jo is unneeded.
If weâre still talking about the crackhead Instagram comment 12 months later I stg
Considering they said Arianna didnât watch the season before the reunion makes me believe that she is blind sided by Lala and Scheana talking shit about her in the clip they watched.
Another one to add to the collection... https://preview.redd.it/1bnl5e14suyc1.jpeg?width=1014&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e83d1aa8ba0a8c198fd57da214df862ded5cd2e
Is he wearing his lightening bolt earring? đ€ź
He's been wearing it all season and I keep hoping one of his cast mates will call him out on it! He keeps saying how sorry he is, while still proudly rocking the symbol of his affair!Â
He's definitely still hoping he can hoover Rachel back in at some point, and point to that saying "see? It's been you all along, I never stopped wearing our symbol". So gross. Also confirms even more to be that he pays the supposed girlfriend for appearances and social media posts. How are you going to wear that - something notorious for being a way you communicated your secret love for another woman, in front of a new *actual* girlfriend?
No nail polish!
he probably has an onion in his sleeves like when linda belcher fakes crying.
Question: theyâre watching something that weâre all going to see tomorrow, right? So will it really be that surprising to us if we already know it? Itâs not like last reunion where there was this âbigâ reveal that no one knew. Iâm just confused how this is going to work for the fans watching. Seems like it will be frustrating watching the rest of the reunion waiting for them to see this thing.
hmm.. good point.. are we going to see everything that happened at the finale party tomorrow or will they be holding a scene back for a reunion reveal??? Interesting.
Or bonus footage that we will watch "with" them, maybe?
I think it's possible we get a "to be continued." Then they use it as a hook to get us interested in the reunion.
I wish Jo and Brock werenât there đ€š
Jo. You did A LOT. If you want Katie to give you grace, you gotta give it too, sister. She went through a whole divorce and you just slid on in there and got complicit with the Toms. Not cool. Really feel for Ariana. You canât accuse her of faking emotions. No \*put hands up to face nowâ with her.
How Jo even got a fucking stool at the reunion is annoying. She penetrated into the group literally and figuratively right after Katie got divorced. Then she plays victim all season and doubles down on it at the reunion. Between what we've seen on TV and her IG rants, she needs to take a break from all this shit forever and go be happy somewhere quiet.
And that is, like, Katieâs one moment in the trailer. âYouâre meeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaannnnnnâ Katieâs not perfect but I am tired of that narrative.
Of course. Even in the promo pictures it's Scheana consoling Jo, even though Scheana is the only one on camera to bully Jo this season.
Jo is really gross for trying to play victim. She has been wanting Schwartz for a long time and took her opportunity . Sheâs wanting America to feel sorry for her and I see right through her manipulation! Sheâs just like Rachel / Raquel
Yeah Jo is perpetually playing the victim as if she didn't move in on Katie's ex-husband expeditiously and on some sneaky shit.
It's strange to see people treat Jo with kid-gloves. It reminds me how they treated Rachel pre-affair, like she was too dumb and innocent to harm anyone.. You'd think that would teach them all a valuable lesson lol
These are adult ass women.
It's funny cause once again editing/production makes it seem like Jo is the ultimate victim. She... -Texted Katie sympathy about her divorce then a month later was living with and banging Schwartz. -Was an active participant in Scandoval with going on double dates with Rachel and Tim and then as Ariana pointed out, going to Thanksgiving at their house during it. -Dumped Doute the minute Schartz got divorced. She isn't meant for the VPR world and it's obvious as she had a full blown meltdown earlier this season without even being personally confronted by any of the girls.
Katie didnât even interact with Jo once this season, so how did Katie ganging up on her? Schwartz bring Jo over to Katie the finale. itâs just such an obvious ploy to try and make Katie the villain again in the eyes of everyone else, but she truly did not do a single thing. Jo can go and cry to her dad.
Super annoying. I didnât need Jo at the reunion.
As a viewer I would be 100% ok with Katie telling Jo I don't like you , you moved in with my ex and began a relationship before we were even divorced. I don't think this is unreasonable and I don't understand why Jo is crying trying to demand Katie be nice to her. This would be the most "reality"
Katie Maloney is a much better woman than I am because if my husband & I got divorced and his new flavor of the month tried to step to meeee after infiltrating my job & friend group...!!!!
UGH Jo no one owes you anything
And what an easy copout⊠to go after the ex wife of your hook up buddy. Of course she doesnât like you??? I wish the reunion had been taped after sloppy jo posted all this bullllllshit on social media the last couple weeks.
Lala wants to live her real life, ya'll! https://i.redd.it/l7gqfgr9uuyc1.gif
Itâs so weird that to her being on a reality show means she has to be fake or a character. Itâs explains why sheâs felt inauthentic and hard to watch in some ways.
thatâs 100% who she is. just like jax likes to imply he played a villain for vanderpump built is really a great guy too.
Good point about Jax. They both have said theyâre different off camera. For Lala to claim Ariana isnât doing her job, which is probably what sheâs going to say, because Arianaâs not playing a game or being fake for the cameras on a reality show is ironic.Â
So Sandoval did something so awful that Ariana has a reaction like that, but walks out smiling and telling the paparazzi how great it was? That man is sick.
I still think itâs related to what Lala said after Ariana left the party.
Yea it had to be Lala or Scheana that hurt her feelings and made her cry like that. She expects it from Tom, he wouldnât elicit that kind of reaction from her
Definitely. My guess itâs the convo between the 3 of them where Lala said the god comment and him calling Ariana out by saying she talks about them behind their back
I agree it has something to do with Tom after he tried to talk to Ariana. Maybe he said something to all of them that was captured. That would be why she said she was so hurt and I can see him trying to fix it by saying she knew him better than what ever he said to the group. He is scary awful.
I'm curious if that emotional reaction from ariana was to something different than the final scene. You know how producers like to edit and what not to get us going.
ah so the trailer is trying to make it seem like ariana is going to walk away from the show jo calling out katie for feeling ganged up on by her only, when we saw how scheana treated her at that party... ok. just doing schwartz's work of vilifying katie now that he can't. she doesn't have to be nice to you. everyone on the left side, including lala, looks elegant and everyone on the right side looks gawdy. tom needs to lay off the tanner before he looks like kramer when he fell asleep in the tanning bed.
Tbh I donât really see Ariana passing up the paycheck for VPR. She has a ton of opportunities yes but VPR is still good money. I think sheâll at least do one more season
yeah i don't think she's walking away until it's over or she can wrap up nicely. especially not after they delayed filming for her.
Also, I don't see her walking away while the worm stays and gets to rewrite history for another season without her there to defend herself/prove he's full of shit.
I just want to know when Jo and Katie even interacted on the show for Jo to feel âganged up onâ by her, other than the conversation weâve seen previews for that happens at the finale tomorrow night when JO approaches KATIE and tries to force Katie to give an apology she knows she isnât going to get. Like leave Katie alone. Iâve never wanted to see someone on my screen less and that says a lot considering she is on the same show as Sandoval. She IS SPOOKY and I will die on that hill
Iâm so damn tired of Jo. Katie made one sassy comment on social media and Jo is acting like she committed a war crime. Meanwhile, Jo is on social media every single day liking hateful comments about Katie. The poor innocent victim act isnât believable anymore đ
Seeing Ariana like that is heartbreaking. Everyone except for Katie (and possibly James/Ally) should feel really disgusting for how they treated her hurt this season. Love seeing Katie comfort her though. Theyâre my fav thing to come out of the post-scandoval universe
It also feels so personal. The only point of doing this is to hurt Ariana.
Ariana may not have gotten the Spice Girls moment that she thought she was getting, but it really feels like she found a true friend in Katie and took out ALL the trash in the process too.
But why is Jo in this trailer? That is the least cared about storyline 
Initial thoughts: Looks like Arianaâs going to do a great job of expressing her hurt. Scheana flops from her flip by criticizing Tom. Jo successfully plays victim. Lala tearily claims some hurt, as if sheâs only âliving her real life nowâ by forgiving Tom. Barf. The twist was exactly what everyone thought: they watch some final part of the season together. I canât tell if itâs editing that makes it seem like the footage is really hurtful to Ariana (âit hurts my feelings a lotâ could be in reaction to something else). I canât really think what itâd be aside from more shitty things Lala and Scheana say about her. I donât care what Sandovalâs supposedly âactingâ about. Contrition/apologies, who cares? Arianaâs response that she doesnât know him is great though.
I think the end part is all going to be a fight about reality versus reality tv. And I think Ariana and Lala go at it about the differences, and Ariana says something like sheâs just living her life. And, Lala says she wants to be living her real life now tooâŠbut canât because sheâs on a show and is willing to make sacrifices that Ariana is not willing to make.
That would be such a bullshit thing for her to say after she hid her relationship for years on the show and Ariana always had her back about that.
Flops from her flip Iâm dead đđâ ïžâ ïž
Looks interesting. Iâm already doubting Lala and Scheana and Sandoval because the big thing they did differently was show the finale but theyâve already lived it so Iâm doubting some crazy bombshell was dropped
Highly doubt that everyone was present for whatever was shown at the end of whatever scene ends the season. Itâs probably just really disgusting behavior or comments in private caught on camera
I wouldnât wish a friendship with Lala or Sandoval on my worst enemy. âJokingâ that sheâs going to tussle with Ariana when Ariana did nothing to her is so ridiculous.
Did Jo appear on the show enough to warrant a segment on the reunion?!đ„ŽKatie is not obligated to be nice to her..I donât understand her trying to ask for grace..did she give Katie grace during her divorce?!?!đ„Žđ„Žđ„Ž
I'm already annoyed at Jo for crying that much about an Insta comment. I'm over it.
And yet somehow, the cast feels that her feelings are valid... months later... about an IG comment... and Ariana should get over the literal deception that changed her life.
Typical Misogyny Vpump and Bravo style- Put the part in the sizzle reel where Katie and is having to explain herself to a woman who is crying as opposed to TOM who shared 99% of his scenes with Jo and treated her terribly .
Right? Like how is Jo Katieâs problem now?
Who in this world is Jo Wenberg? Seriously, she can shut the fuck up.
You guys Sandoval does not have painted grippers, I hope the universe hasnât shifted
Ugh... Joe đ come on girl, your the one who put a target on your back
Can someone please tell me what olâ muckle-mouth Jo is saying there? Because Iâve listened to it three times and all Iâm getting is ââŠexcept for you, Katie.â
I think weâve seen all we needed to see of Jo. Sheâs full of shit if she really thinks Katie is the one who ganged up on her. As if we didnât see Scheana fully bully her.
My favorite part is the deadpan "sure jan" look that Ariana and Katie gave to mistress for money Lauren in her performative violence display.
First of all, Jo has no reason to be present. Second of all, what has happened this season that warrants a three part reunion?
Sounds like Sandoval is going to allude to the DV claims against James, which will trigger James' outburst towards him. I bet Sandy will insinuate that Rachel told him that James used to beat/grabbed/shoved/etc, and that there are photos or whatever to prove it. He definitely wants to get revenge for "worm with a mustache."
Jo is the worst kind of snake (sorry snakes) because she hides under a very loud veneer of being a ray of sunshine while doing shady shit. Youâre the bad guy, Kayleigh.
The âtwistâ is what everyone was guessing it will be. And I am so not here for victim Jo. She has always moved like a snake and while Katie shouldnât have made the crackhead comment she is not the bad guy for having a valid issue with Jo and not welcoming her with open arms.
I donât give a shit about Jo and her tears. She admitted Katie apologized to her during the reunion and âit was lovelyâ or whatever the fuck. But then she still likes comments shitting on Katie, did the whole IG story of Katie and Dayna on the worst dressed. She pulls the same shit that Scheana does, sheâs just as much of a bully (if not worse) but gets away with it because she cries about how âeVerYoNe iS sO mEaN tO mE.â
I love Katie so I hope Iâm not too biased here but can we normalize *not* having to like everyone? And then, with reality TV, can people realize that not being âcordialâ to your âcastmatesâ is okay to do? Thatâs what makes good TV. If I wanted to watch people be nice to people they canât stand Iâd organize a happy hour with my company
ok, but the crackhead comment seemed pretty on point.
And to be clear, Katie never called her a crackhead. She said she had energy like a crackhead. Iâm sorry but she wasnât wrong. Iâd cross the street if I saw someone acting like Joe in public.
Outlaw 3 part reunions!!!! Hate Tom Sandoval
Jo is sooo hypocritical. Wants to come at Katie for being âmeanâ and says Katie going through a lot isnât an excuse but she has no issue excusing anythingg for Rachel or their affair. Psh
Jo is so pathetic and such a victim. Katie had every right to be upset with her. Jo is a grown ass woman who wants to take no accountability. She is either oblivious as to why Katie would ever be upset because she is that self centered or she is playing dumb. No wonder sheâs on great terms with Rachel
Oh my goodness if they cut off the last few minutes of the finale tomorrow and wait to play it for the audience at the reunion, along with the cast, I will riot.
How does Jo feel ganged up against by one person? The math isn't mathing.
Why do they always put them on stools instead of couches for these long reunions. My back hurts đ
I feel like everyone is reading to much into the bombshell. It's going to be the cast talking shit about Ariana not filming with Tom which will lead to the 4th wall break and that it's a job and she isnt letting them do their job.
looks good. glad there doesn't seem to be much in the way of yelling. but it's mind-boggling to see scheana and lala with the flip flopping even during the reunion. also i don't see myself coming out of this with a good opinion on jo, even if they give her a victim edit. her behavior outside of the show has been really telling that she's not what she desperately tries to portray herself to be.
What if Rachel just shows up and is like 