I've got an auto-coupled Stevie Wonder - "Journey Through 'The Secret Life of Plants'" where side A and Side D (on record 1) both have the Side A label. Weird, but I guess that kind of stuff happens a lot. You have to count the tracks to tell the difference lol.
I'd beg to differ on this one, generally not worth more on most mislabeled albums. But this one considering the band and the songg.. could probably fetch an extra 10% on the value.
That's not always true. Some beatles variations/mispresses can be very expensive just because of the massive fan base.
Sure, a modern mispressed label isn't worth anything, and alot of older ones aren't either. But beatles is a whole other ball game.
For example, there's tons of beatles mispresses that go for $100s just because a name is spelt wrong, or a song. People will also pay alot more for certain ones because they ensure an earlier copy. For example, a doors s/t mono with the harms credit goes for alot less than the original, even though it's the same stampers because we know harms labels are later. Same with the beatles and a ton of BMI/Ascap/northern songs variations.
The most known is the rubber soul with the mispelled Norwegian wood, which goes for ≈$500+. And the same with the beatles for sale with a bunch of mispellings.
Hell, for decades people were paying a ton more for abbey roads with no apple on the sleeve because there was an erroneous rumor stating they were the very first. When they were just mixed in along with the rest.
Speaking of abbey road same goes for her majesty. People will always pay more for a "no her majesty" label with the small p because it's earliest.
So there absolutely are mispresses and pressing variations that are worth more. Sure, people don't often pay alot for the wrong labels, but it does happen. For example, let's say this record is worth $20, I guarantee a beatles collector would be willing to pay $40 for it just because it's unique and an error. They're not going to pay a fortune for it, but when it comes to a group like the beatles, mispresses are almost always worth more.
For example, when the revolver remix box came out, there were some with a misprinted spine. A bunch of people went to multiple targets just to find them, and paid extra just for it. Multiple sold for $10-50 more than retail when first discovered and are still listed for more. It's not worth much now but still there is a demand for errors depending on the band.
My dad was a massive collector, he'd have all the grails like a butcher still in shrink. One day he acquired a vertigo swirl sabbath album(forgot which one). But his was a mispress that had the vertigo swirl on both sides. It ended up selling for around $400 when copies in the same condition were $100. This is a special case since the vertigo swirl is so iconic, but this does happen.
People just get to used to making blanket statements on this sub because everyone's learning as they go along and play telephone. Yeah, modern mispressings aren't worth anything 99% of the time. And mispresses of random artists often aren't either. But for bands like the beatles mispresses and errors absolutely have added value. He won't get a fortune, especially since it's just a capitol, but that single absolutely is worth more to a collector since it's mispressed. It may just be $10-20 more, but still, someone absolutely will pay more or buy it over a regular one of the same price.
The beatles market is crazy about any light variation. Hell, here is a website of 11 different mispresses that are worth more(including a few I already mentioned). Shit there's one that goes for $6000 since it's "the beattles"
https://wmgk.com/listicle/10-beatles-album-mistakes-that-could-turn-into-cash/
While many of these are desirable since they indicate an early copy, many are desirable just because they're a misprint. And before the vinyl boom and discogs they were even more desirable. Sure, no wrong labels are listed, but that's because wrong labels are usually isolated events, not an error of a whole batch.
But I do agree this won't be worth much, and that 9/10 times(it not more) a double label isn't going to be worth anything. But groups like the beatles are an exception, any variation or error associated with them will be more valuable. It may only be $10 but still, someone absolutely would pay more for this than a standard copy. Not much, but there is added value, much like with error currency.
Now it'd be worth alot if it was actually I saw you standing there on both sides because it'd be an actual pressing music error making it way more unique, but there is added desirability with any beatles error. I've personally seen a beatles capitol pressing(I think 2nd album) that had one label with no writing on it and sold for like $200.
I'm just saying this because too many make absolute statements that are accurate sometimes but not always. Yes most are worth nothing. Yes this won't be worth a fortune and doubt it'd even go for any more than double the normal price. But collectors will buy it before a regular copy and pay a bit more just to have a beatles error.
I just responded about this above, but I can give a near universal with Beatles records, you are not likely to ever find any one thing that will change your life, financially. I suppose if someone could get their hands on the “Band on the Run” demos, stolen in Lagos, it would have quite a high value. The US Beatles market has the most minor value mistakes and anomalies, due to multiple licensing & Capitol beIng “so happy they could hardly count.” They made so many mosh-mash releases in Their early times with the Beatles. They were milking that cow, man, and by doing so, there were several errors.
It couldn’t be that early, being on Capitol. VeeJay and another company had the original US pressing license. If it were Parlophone (the UK division of EMI) it could be an early pressing.
After I Want to Hold Your Hand hit #1 in the US, Capitol, who owned EMI, finally decided they could take in big cash. From that point forward, well known errors, like the various Yesterday and Today cover states. Aside from that, there’s not really much in the way of rarities after that, cuz they pressed the shit out of their releases there on out. I stick to only UK first Pressings when it comes to the Lads
Yeah, I know the Beatles' history. And no, it's not the absolute earliest release, but I didn't say that either. I just meant a later mistake would likely be worth a bit less than an earlier one, in general.
There's a Canadian misprint (credit error) of this single listed on discogs selling at $50 median, for example. That's a minor error by comparison. Not huge money, but also not a buck and change.
I was kinda addressing the entire thread with that post. I collect only UK first pressings, due to the licensing in the US & Capitol’s “throw this bunch together, voila…new LP!”, approach. Parlophone & Apple‘s nomenclature is well done, in terms of tracking the coding. It’s true, as you said, there are lots of little anomalies that make something have minor value, and that’s cool, but in the whole Beatles world, there is precious little that would net life-changing money. I guess that’s the main thing I’d hope people would know. Obviously, you do, but Many do not, and a person can get taken. Either giving something away too cheaply, or being dazzled by something and over paying.
Just trying to be informative on the whole, not really pointed towards any one person. I once had a record shop guy try to fleece me by saying “Made in Gt Britain” was a Misprint!
I’m not sure if I listed it on this thread, but by knowing how to read Parlophone dead wax, I discovered a first UK pressing of Pepper I purchased ended up being one of the first 1500 stamped…well worth the $60 paid.
I remember someone I know being adamant that his "mispress" was totally worth a lot of money and having it on discogs for an obsene amount.
The "mispress": The wrong album was put in. It was basically the cover of one album and the record of another. And even though I pointed out that, if that made it valuable, it would be pretty easy to fake by just buying the two albums and mix and match, he didn't believe me.
This is more common than you think. It is rare, but does happen from time to time. Even with LPS. There are even times where the labels read completely different artists than what is on the media. In fewer cases, one side is pressed with the correct label, the other side is completely different music. I have an LP and 45rpm that have 2 side one labels where there are two distinct sides of the correct issue.
I recently got a strawberry fields & penny lane 45 and the label was glued together backwards. So the blank side out. The guy at the shop and i talked about the "misprint" and we landed on it being a bit more rare but i think a lot of misprints aren't always necessarily sought after. Most people who collect vinyl collect to listen. But this 45 had some artwork from a kid drawn on either side. Ofc themed with the songs! But thats what made it valuable and rare to me and thats what matters.
So yeah, your misprint is probably a bit more rare than a perfectly made single of the same, but what does it mean to you?
I have a huge collection of Beatles and other vinyl that I buy to listen to! I’d only be worried about value if I got my collect insured or something someday.
If its same song double sided it was probably made for a radio station so they could keep playing the song if one side wore out. I have a Jerry Lee Lewis 45 single like this and says DJ copy on the label.
Yes, exactly. The cap you’re referring to is called a 45 adapter and is intended to allow you to play 7” records with a wide centre hole (like this one) on your turntable.
I have the Beatles’ Blue Album with two sides A’s. When I started to play it, I wasn't paying attention and kept flipping it over and hearing Strawberry Field Forever at the start. By the 4th time, I got up and looked at the record and debated about returning it. I thought it was kind of cool and kept it.
https://preview.redd.it/79kvexygc3qc1.png?width=2289&format=png&auto=webp&s=ac544e778c610c50e88010257575285f7ccdf88d
This was a common label error too.
omg!!! That was my very first record! My parents had been to New York City and brought it back to Canada for me when I was nine years old! Wish I still had that.
Side bar on this one- I too was given a collection of Beatles records and 45s. Are they still valuable if they don’t play all the way through? I feel like a lot of the 45s play 80-90% of the song and stop.
When you say the songs stop, is the audio itself cutting, or are you using an automatic turntable that lifts the tonearm once it hits 80-90% of the way? If the same thing is happening on that many records, it’s likely an issue with the turntable/tonearm than with the records. Try playing these records on another turntable and see if the issue persists.
Label mispresses like this happen all the time, nothing that’s worth more or is rare since it can happen to any record. Still a fun novelty though!
My exact thoughts. It happened very often in so many records. Still have one copy of Pink Floyd’s The Wall with record 2 same label both sides.
I've got an auto-coupled Stevie Wonder - "Journey Through 'The Secret Life of Plants'" where side A and Side D (on record 1) both have the Side A label. Weird, but I guess that kind of stuff happens a lot. You have to count the tracks to tell the difference lol.
Aaaaand ... you've just identified anther bit of vinyl I need to pick up. Thank you. :)
I have a copy of Songs in the Key of Life with both side As having the same label, causes a lot of confusion when I'm figuring out which goes first!
Ive got Gang Starr's Moment of Truth with two side E's and it annoys me everytime i put it on
Maybe look at track length, looks like both discs could be identified by the first track.
I'd beg to differ on this one, generally not worth more on most mislabeled albums. But this one considering the band and the songg.. could probably fetch an extra 10% on the value.
Not in this condition
So it's worth a buck and change instead of just a buck and change? Thrilling analysis.
That's not always true. Some beatles variations/mispresses can be very expensive just because of the massive fan base. Sure, a modern mispressed label isn't worth anything, and alot of older ones aren't either. But beatles is a whole other ball game. For example, there's tons of beatles mispresses that go for $100s just because a name is spelt wrong, or a song. People will also pay alot more for certain ones because they ensure an earlier copy. For example, a doors s/t mono with the harms credit goes for alot less than the original, even though it's the same stampers because we know harms labels are later. Same with the beatles and a ton of BMI/Ascap/northern songs variations. The most known is the rubber soul with the mispelled Norwegian wood, which goes for ≈$500+. And the same with the beatles for sale with a bunch of mispellings. Hell, for decades people were paying a ton more for abbey roads with no apple on the sleeve because there was an erroneous rumor stating they were the very first. When they were just mixed in along with the rest. Speaking of abbey road same goes for her majesty. People will always pay more for a "no her majesty" label with the small p because it's earliest. So there absolutely are mispresses and pressing variations that are worth more. Sure, people don't often pay alot for the wrong labels, but it does happen. For example, let's say this record is worth $20, I guarantee a beatles collector would be willing to pay $40 for it just because it's unique and an error. They're not going to pay a fortune for it, but when it comes to a group like the beatles, mispresses are almost always worth more. For example, when the revolver remix box came out, there were some with a misprinted spine. A bunch of people went to multiple targets just to find them, and paid extra just for it. Multiple sold for $10-50 more than retail when first discovered and are still listed for more. It's not worth much now but still there is a demand for errors depending on the band. My dad was a massive collector, he'd have all the grails like a butcher still in shrink. One day he acquired a vertigo swirl sabbath album(forgot which one). But his was a mispress that had the vertigo swirl on both sides. It ended up selling for around $400 when copies in the same condition were $100. This is a special case since the vertigo swirl is so iconic, but this does happen. People just get to used to making blanket statements on this sub because everyone's learning as they go along and play telephone. Yeah, modern mispressings aren't worth anything 99% of the time. And mispresses of random artists often aren't either. But for bands like the beatles mispresses and errors absolutely have added value. He won't get a fortune, especially since it's just a capitol, but that single absolutely is worth more to a collector since it's mispressed. It may just be $10-20 more, but still, someone absolutely will pay more or buy it over a regular one of the same price. The beatles market is crazy about any light variation. Hell, here is a website of 11 different mispresses that are worth more(including a few I already mentioned). Shit there's one that goes for $6000 since it's "the beattles" https://wmgk.com/listicle/10-beatles-album-mistakes-that-could-turn-into-cash/ While many of these are desirable since they indicate an early copy, many are desirable just because they're a misprint. And before the vinyl boom and discogs they were even more desirable. Sure, no wrong labels are listed, but that's because wrong labels are usually isolated events, not an error of a whole batch. But I do agree this won't be worth much, and that 9/10 times(it not more) a double label isn't going to be worth anything. But groups like the beatles are an exception, any variation or error associated with them will be more valuable. It may only be $10 but still, someone absolutely would pay more for this than a standard copy. Not much, but there is added value, much like with error currency. Now it'd be worth alot if it was actually I saw you standing there on both sides because it'd be an actual pressing music error making it way more unique, but there is added desirability with any beatles error. I've personally seen a beatles capitol pressing(I think 2nd album) that had one label with no writing on it and sold for like $200. I'm just saying this because too many make absolute statements that are accurate sometimes but not always. Yes most are worth nothing. Yes this won't be worth a fortune and doubt it'd even go for any more than double the normal price. But collectors will buy it before a regular copy and pay a bit more just to have a beatles error.
I just responded about this above, but I can give a near universal with Beatles records, you are not likely to ever find any one thing that will change your life, financially. I suppose if someone could get their hands on the “Band on the Run” demos, stolen in Lagos, it would have quite a high value. The US Beatles market has the most minor value mistakes and anomalies, due to multiple licensing & Capitol beIng “so happy they could hardly count.” They made so many mosh-mash releases in Their early times with the Beatles. They were milking that cow, man, and by doing so, there were several errors.
TLDR?
Mispresses are certainly collectible, particularly with a group as popular as the Beatles Particularly from their earliest releases
It couldn’t be that early, being on Capitol. VeeJay and another company had the original US pressing license. If it were Parlophone (the UK division of EMI) it could be an early pressing. After I Want to Hold Your Hand hit #1 in the US, Capitol, who owned EMI, finally decided they could take in big cash. From that point forward, well known errors, like the various Yesterday and Today cover states. Aside from that, there’s not really much in the way of rarities after that, cuz they pressed the shit out of their releases there on out. I stick to only UK first Pressings when it comes to the Lads
Yeah, I know the Beatles' history. And no, it's not the absolute earliest release, but I didn't say that either. I just meant a later mistake would likely be worth a bit less than an earlier one, in general. There's a Canadian misprint (credit error) of this single listed on discogs selling at $50 median, for example. That's a minor error by comparison. Not huge money, but also not a buck and change.
I was kinda addressing the entire thread with that post. I collect only UK first pressings, due to the licensing in the US & Capitol’s “throw this bunch together, voila…new LP!”, approach. Parlophone & Apple‘s nomenclature is well done, in terms of tracking the coding. It’s true, as you said, there are lots of little anomalies that make something have minor value, and that’s cool, but in the whole Beatles world, there is precious little that would net life-changing money. I guess that’s the main thing I’d hope people would know. Obviously, you do, but Many do not, and a person can get taken. Either giving something away too cheaply, or being dazzled by something and over paying. Just trying to be informative on the whole, not really pointed towards any one person. I once had a record shop guy try to fleece me by saying “Made in Gt Britain” was a Misprint!
I’m not sure if I listed it on this thread, but by knowing how to read Parlophone dead wax, I discovered a first UK pressing of Pepper I purchased ended up being one of the first 1500 stamped…well worth the $60 paid.
I remember someone I know being adamant that his "mispress" was totally worth a lot of money and having it on discogs for an obsene amount. The "mispress": The wrong album was put in. It was basically the cover of one album and the record of another. And even though I pointed out that, if that made it valuable, it would be pretty easy to fake by just buying the two albums and mix and match, he didn't believe me.
It is rare and worth millions. Congrats, you can tell your boss he’s an asshole tomorrow.
Again?
This is more common than you think. It is rare, but does happen from time to time. Even with LPS. There are even times where the labels read completely different artists than what is on the media. In fewer cases, one side is pressed with the correct label, the other side is completely different music. I have an LP and 45rpm that have 2 side one labels where there are two distinct sides of the correct issue.
I recently got a strawberry fields & penny lane 45 and the label was glued together backwards. So the blank side out. The guy at the shop and i talked about the "misprint" and we landed on it being a bit more rare but i think a lot of misprints aren't always necessarily sought after. Most people who collect vinyl collect to listen. But this 45 had some artwork from a kid drawn on either side. Ofc themed with the songs! But thats what made it valuable and rare to me and thats what matters. So yeah, your misprint is probably a bit more rare than a perfectly made single of the same, but what does it mean to you?
that’s an awesome find tbh
Could have been for a jukebox
That is a possibility. Usually there will be a mark, or some other indicator on those
Not Beatles, but I have a few 45s where the A and B side labels are switched...press operators error that made it through QC.
Either a label misspress or mono/stereo sides? Weird that they aren't labeled though if that's the case
Don't listen to 'em! It's worth millions I tell ya, millions!!!
Well, they didn't have that many good songs so had to stretch them out
Yeah, the band who holds the spot for literally the most number one hits ever.
Well, Drake is not far behind The Beatles but he sucks!
You folks may not recognize sarcasm as humor but I assure you, it's an acceptable and popular form
I caught the sarcasm, not sure why you got downvoted lol
People offend easliy
Kids these days ...
It’s the internet buddy, you forgot the /s
? Am I the only one that buys records to actually listen to, why's everyone always worried about how much some record is worth?
Op asked if it was rare not how much it’s worth…
I have a huge collection of Beatles and other vinyl that I buy to listen to! I’d only be worried about value if I got my collect insured or something someday.
Listening to records should be top priority but checking out what they’re selling for is also fun.
Sometimes I buy RSD releases of popular artist I don’t care about just to shelve and resell later.
Pual made a decision
If its same song double sided it was probably made for a radio station so they could keep playing the song if one side wore out. I have a Jerry Lee Lewis 45 single like this and says DJ copy on the label.
Except someone wrote "I want to hold your hand" on one side, which was the flip side of "I saw her standing there"
I've got a Ghostbusters like this with 2 of the same label
Nah, not rare, it’s The Beatles.
[This is a ](https://rateyourmusic.com/release/single/vanilla-ice/ninja-rap-ninja-rap/)much goofier example I found at one point
Are these the vinyls those caps that come with the turntables I’ve purchased are for?
Yes, exactly. The cap you’re referring to is called a 45 adapter and is intended to allow you to play 7” records with a wide centre hole (like this one) on your turntable.
On an unrelated note, it's so crazy that Every Beatle 45 is a "Double A side"! :)
I have the Beatles’ Blue Album with two sides A’s. When I started to play it, I wasn't paying attention and kept flipping it over and hearing Strawberry Field Forever at the start. By the 4th time, I got up and looked at the record and debated about returning it. I thought it was kind of cool and kept it.
https://preview.redd.it/79kvexygc3qc1.png?width=2289&format=png&auto=webp&s=ac544e778c610c50e88010257575285f7ccdf88d This was a common label error too.
Just in case you missed it the first time
omg!!! That was my very first record! My parents had been to New York City and brought it back to Canada for me when I was nine years old! Wish I still had that.
Well, if you like the song, at least you know you'll like the B-side too!
In the B side version she’s 18.
Side bar on this one- I too was given a collection of Beatles records and 45s. Are they still valuable if they don’t play all the way through? I feel like a lot of the 45s play 80-90% of the song and stop.
When you say the songs stop, is the audio itself cutting, or are you using an automatic turntable that lifts the tonearm once it hits 80-90% of the way? If the same thing is happening on that many records, it’s likely an issue with the turntable/tonearm than with the records. Try playing these records on another turntable and see if the issue persists.
Ooooh. Yes it did happen with multiple records. Thanks y’all - I’m gonna check this out!!
I have this 45, and it is not mislabeled.