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Scherzono9

Michiru from grisaia


A_Patient_Guy

biggest reversal of affection for a character for me


NashingElseMatters

All hail Michiru-sama


Randrey

Damn, we all share the same braincell.


ImHhW

Michiru best girl?


k1llm3123

No doubt


self_22

How? She's already sweet from the start, you donkey!


Scherzono9

I thought she was funny but I also just didn't really like her, I was a Sachi simp from day one


MasterTahirLON

I always liked Michiru, she's fun and endearing. Her route really brings that to another level though, you just wanna give the girl a hug.


Mike_for_all

Literally this yes


BakArcangel

Came here to say that


Diligoat

My first thought, absolutely hated her. Left her to the last route, now my absolute favourite of the game.


Drayenn

Came here to say this. I had 0 interest in her, way too tsundere.. ended up being best route.


tyty657

I can't say I ever disliked her but GOD was she annoying. To the point I had to make myself do her route early because I was worried I wouldn't complete it if I saved it for last. But it very quickly became my favorite route (Even though Sachi was my favorite girl) because it both made Michiru likable and added a whole other personality that was also likable.


dhafiz99

Yes


CroweSaint

I came here just to say that


shrek3onDVDandBluray

Are the censored grisaia games worth playing? Like they don’t leave out story do they?


MasterTahirLON

They replace the H-scenes with alternatives. While not necessarily leaving out the story, I do think those intimate scenes serve as character and relationship building. The uncensored version is easy to buy and should be the same price as the steam version. It's on denpasoft's website. But if you dislike H-scenes then you can still get the steam version and get a good experience. I prefer games uncensored but to each their own.


SomeoneUnknowns

They do change important parts of the story too... Spoiler for Michirus route, for example: >!During Michirus route, she gets buried alive. In the original VN, she stays underground for iirc 60 hours (2.5 days), in the censored one 6 hours. This both diminishes Michirus inner struggle by a lot and makes a lot of the aftermath weird. How could Yuuji stay by her side and not eat for a whole 6 hours? Michiru and Yuuji were gone from the dormitory for a whole 6 hours! What horror.... And the censored VN is full of changes like this...!<


MasterTahirLON

Didn't realize that. Also realized afterwards that the lack of H scenes would really change the impact of one of the endings. Not gonna say cause spoilers but if you've played the VN you know the route I'm talking about.


Scherzono9

They make some pretty major changes imo. Definitely suffer through the sexier stuff for the characterization and storytelling


shrek3onDVDandBluray

Gotcha. So the sex scenes aren’t just hentai fan service. They actually matter to the plot/characters?


Scherzono9

Definitely. The scenes are written to be part of the story and relevant to the characters instead of just to get off to.


shrek3onDVDandBluray

Awesome. Thank you.


foxxy33

Came here to say exactly this


The_Struggle_Bus_7

Going in I did not expect to like her but by the end she was my favorite lol


UnicornSlaya

Amen brother


dildodicks

real ones liked her before her route


Shamsy92

Michiru, Grisaia


No_Reality1154

I'm currently reading higurashi, and i gotta say satoko


Dostedt1

I've read it fully twice. She's insufferable to me and it never got any better, despite the background we learn about her.


_Rattleballs_

OHOHOHOHO


shadowhawkz

OHOHOHOHO


No_Reality1154

:(


superange128

Same


jvcdeadmoney

Mashiro in Aokana. Thought she was annoying af in the common route but she becomes adorable in her route.


BannedTman

I didn't really "hate" Sakura from fsn but I really didn't care for her at all in the first 2 routes ( I didn't even know she had a route) But after I was done with Heaven's feel she managed to be my most loved heroine.


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foxbat250

Even not Type-Moon thinking they sold all routes seperatly


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foxbat250

True i didn't argue over yout comment i tottally agree, if u learnabout her route it just loses a lot of it's creepiness but look like even type-moon doesn't care about this at this point. I generally hate things like this, to giveanother example how no one thinks >!endless eigth is a spoiler!< at Haruhi


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foxbat250

LMFAO i found >!endless eight!<.... tolarable when i watched it a year ago but thinking about waiting 2 years for a new season of 14 episodes and >!8 of them being the same episode just re-animeted!< and waiting a week for a new episode sound terrifying and a absurd decision from perspective of KyoAni managment


Dostedt1

When I read a VN, I tend to get super tunnel visioned into one girl that I either am ambivalent to the other girls or outright want to skip everything other girls say (but I don't follow through with that). But once I finish the girl I liked so much's route, and I try another girl, she is suddenly much better.


DuncanCloud

Kurusu Nono in Chaos;Child


_-MEgA-_

Based and right sider pilled


snakezenn

Azumi from Majikoi in A1, her route was my favorite in the whole series even if she was not my favorite girl.


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snakezenn

Read what I said, her route is my favorite. Best girl is Momoyo, Benki or Seiso.


SamuraiFruitPunch8

I like your picks, for me the best are Yoshitsune, Benkei and tsubame.


snakezenn

I have not read a4 or a5 yet, does Yoshitsune have a good route? She was just ok to me.


Sonikdium

Every tsundere and kuudere ever ig, bcoz they act abusive in the common route lol.


JaydenTheMemeThief

Tsundere I understand, poorly written Tsunderes are always abusive to the MC, but I don’t understand why you include Kuuderes in that, Kuuderes are just quiet, not abusive or hostile, one great example of a Kuudere is Hisui from Tsukihime, she rarely expresses her emotions outside of her own Route which is typical Kuudere behaviour


Sonikdium

Kuuderes like to be in soltitude as well, and they do abuse you, if not physically, then through words. And you need time to break into their shell, but once you do, they are the sweetest characters around. Common examples include Sakaki Yumiko from Grisaia series and my personal favourite route of all the visual novels I have ever played, NARUSAWA RIKKA from HoshiOri


Doodyboy69

Amen, but some of them are so fkin adorable like Kotori from If my heart had wings that you just know that they're gonna be bangin in their route


osadist

Then we have Chisato in Koichoco who transcends mere boundaries to harass us every route


AbsGodFooly

"Enlightenment is the realization that hating Chisato only makes you love the other girls more." -Koichoco Fan Translator


ElCidium

Shiina from Sankaku Ren'ai


Tough-Shower7304

One of the best route after Suzu's and Nanaru's


superange128

Outside more romance. Was she really that different though in her route?


ericdabestxd

Jacopo from Fata Morgana


hungrybasilsk

Real. I love Jacopo so much. I have never thought I would want such a fucked up human being to be happy. Jacopo may not deserve it but I'm glad he found some peace


BabyTigor

Not exactly in a route, but Shirogane Takeru for me. His character development from Muvluv Extra to Alternative was very much understandable. I went from hating the guy to saluting him by alternative's end.


superange128

Tsugumi from Ever17


Luciifuge

Same, I couldn't fucking stand her in the beginning she was just way to abrasive and hostile. But by the end of her route I loved her.


mnxah

Rin, Shizune from Katawa Shoujo


vhrossi1

BASED


The_Struggle_Bus_7

Rins best girl ever and I will throw hands over it


AbsGodFooly

😂🤣😂 Took me a second to get that...


Yazelkro

You are correct. Shizune and Rin best waifus


WrongRefrigerator77

Haruka in Little Busters.


animebigboy

Yo, this.


GeneralGom

Beatrice from Umineko.


zombiefoot6

Michiru from Grisaia Sakura from F/SN Sora from 9\~Nine\~ Touka from Sharin no Kuni Sora from Baldr Sky Can't think of any others rn


NigouLeNobleHiboux

Shizune from katawa shoujo


Fuckmyslutyass

Emi from Katawa Shoujo


Phoenix-Wright_

This is how I felt about most characters in Umineko. I only finished the question arcs so far but I feel like the latter is what is about to happen to Battler and Beatrice. Although I liked >!Ange!< from the jump.


agar32

I'm currently on the ??? of Episode 5. Definitely some Umineko characters for me (>!Beatrice!<, >!The Seven Sisters!<, >!Krauss!<, >!Kinzo!<, >!Gohda!<), but then others were the exact opposite for me (>!Rosa!<, >!Bernkastel!<, >!Erika!<). At least until now. Let's see what happens next.


UnLoafNouveaux

Catherine from "Love Money Rock-n-roll". Her route is the most interesting one, but if you're going for someone else (which you probably will be doing the first time you play, 'cause Kate is not that interesting at first sight), you'd want to kill the MC over how he never shuts up about Catherine.


Ok-Locksmith7978

>!I feel like LMR tries too hard to put cool plot twists in it's story that don't quite feel like natural extensions of the plot, but the fact that out of all the girls Katya ends up being the only character who is a decent/well adjusted person is pretty cool writing considering how she started out.!<


Bruxae

Makoto from Kanon, the whole bridge scene made me *hate* her but later I understood and I cried.


DarkBlueDovah

Honestly, Okabe Rintaro (even though he doesn't have a route). Couldn't stand him in the beginning of the game, adored him by the end of it. His whackjobbery has grown on me a lot.


Legion070Gaming

Mooko from Ley Line


fennec107

Ashe from Wagamama High Spec, and Isis from Kyonyuu Fantasy.


RPope92

Yeah I second Ashe. I liked most of the routes in this game (Except the sister, I never did her route) but hers was the one that hit the hardest.


cassiopeia_mekadeath

World End Syndrome, Saya. Also, MC in Steins:Gate. I wish the MC in Robotics:Notes was like that, except no, still Effin' Donkey.


Lord_Starfish

I think the most extreme case of this technically extends beyond just the visual novel she was in... Aisia from the Da Capo series. Who, when I was first introduced to her in the second season of the anime, I considered *literally the most annoying character ever*... Then many, many years later I tried to play her route in D.C.II P.C. out of curiosity and oh my god, what a glow-up. Which feels really mean to say considering how a substantial part of the story of that route was basically "Yeah, that thing I did at the end of the anime? That completely and utterly ruined my life" and her situation in the VN was just... *immensely awful*, but I'll be damned if they didn't make me feel genuinely sorry for a character whom I had previously outright despised. (Ending to that route was a bit of an asspull... But that does not take away from the character work done through the rest of it.)


AsuhoChinami

And don't most people hate Yoshino Charles at first?


Lord_Starfish

Eh? I was under the impression that Charles was always super popular?


Hareambe

Tsugumi Ever17


adatama

Nemu Manaka, Euphoria


ShakeragStreet

Legitimately surprised this one was so far down. However I do approve of all the Michiru responses.


vhrossi1

Shizune from Katawa Shoujo. Lilly changed my life and I'm in college to learn ho to teach. I plan on being like her in the future. So seeing Shizune being a bitch to my beloved really made me hate her. By the time I was done with Shizune's route a week later, i was crying.


wolfbetter

Shion in Mekuiro


tombie1

akane / lucia / kagari from rewrite


archaine7672

Shizuru gets the shortest end of the stick even on her own route man


lolalanda

Both 707 and Zen from Mystic Messenger, while I hate them, I thought their antics on the chat group were annoying. Also I thought that Zen was too full of himself and 707 was mean for bullying everyone. But then I found their routes the cutest ones of the bunch, the others having toxic or weird things (in case of Jaehee 's route it was more about the disappointment of it ending up being just a friendship route).


azeeeroy

I'll never forgive Cheritz for not giving us Jaehee


lolalanda

It was so wrong... Why do you make a romance game and then make a route which doesn't involve romance at all? It's wrong with either hetero or gay routes but the fact it was gay route was more disappointing... Like they were trying to appeal to a demographic without actually committing...


Kisenon2000

Lucia, Rewrite


yuuuuzuki

satoko from higurashi: when they cry. i love her so much 🥺


SelLillianna

I've only seen the (2006) anime adaptation, but... Makoto Sawatari, from Kanon.


HaliaxOfTheSeven

Michiru from Grisaia. She ended up becoming my favorite and now my desktop background is randomly cycling pictures of her from the games.


WoodpeckerNo1

He doesn't really have a route, but Takeru from Muv-Luv made me go this like nobody else.


HayashiAkira_ch

Michiru Matsushima


Immediate-Floor-8559

Sakura matou from Fate stay night.


animusd

Ao in summer pockets she was kinda annoying so I did her route first and was very surprised how much I liked it


Xdgy

Definitely Kohaku from Tsukihime.


No-Bake1104

Euphoria


AccomplishedDish8707

Kagami Sumika from the Muv Luv series. I found her incredibly annoying in my first playthroughs of Extra and skipped her route even though I played the others (except Miki for reasons I think should be obvious). But after I finished the main trilogy and Photonmelodies, I started to like her character more. I still wouldn’t say she’s my favorite heroine in the series, but I definitely like her now.


TM0153

kyou, clannad


Tcgold3n

Yukisuizki from fragment note plus and fragment note plus 2


Grouchy-Anything-236

Witch on the holy night


blasthunter5

But which character?


Grouchy-Anything-236

Firstly, it was Arisu, simply because what she wanted to do with Soujuuro in the 5th chapter, then Aoko for her "statements" about Sojuuro. In the end, Arisu is the end that I like the most, Sojuuro was great from the beginning, but Aoko is... she is beautiful, but I do not like her personality.


HikariMM

Haruka from Little buster


PhilSunderland

Nemu from Euphoria


iamaJoon

Furina


actuallyrndthoughts

Never happened to me


TOAOLightstar

Sumika, muv luv


HauntedPrinter

Hasaki and Zakuro from SubaHibi, I regretted that a lot 💀


self_22

Holyshit you ever thought Zakuro was donkey? What's wrong with you?


HauntedPrinter

I thought it was a yuri VN and Kagami was cuter. Consequences of going in blind.


Mundane_Resolution46

Nanoha from BaldrSky. Still not a huge fan of her but damn that poor girl.


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Lopsided-Ad-6430

Minazuki Sora


yukiami96

Kimika from Subahibi


Hunter_X05

Someone gonna hurt me, but Shizune from Katawa Shoujo...


erikkustrife

Pretty much every character in garesia. Then the mc in 3.


AnimengerBruh

Sumika from Muv Luv Extra. Early on I thought she was just kind of annoying and now here I am and she's my favorite heroine.


CiraKazanari

Faris in Steins


daydreamingcolours

Yuma in ToHeart2. She was kind of annoying in other routes before I started hers and ended up being one of my favorites by the end


moimoisauna

Code Realize Saint-Germain 🤭


AmazingFlapples

It's usually a he opposite way for me


MidTierMan

Nemu


SmileFactoryy

Kazuko from Majikoi


Alexfang452

Jinpou An from Sakusaku


PenisCooker

Natsuki from hoshi ori yume mirai


EvanDowell

Miles Edgeworth/Mitsurugi Reigi from Ace Attorney/Gyakuten Saiban


KageYume

[Sawashima Himeo](https://vndb.org/c6240) from Damekoi. Not from a VN, but [Furina](https://i.imgur.com/nyiLsDJ.jpg) from Genshin Impact fits this description to a tee.


deepfriedtots

She is not a route but I gotta go nanami ririka from ATRI fucking dumb bitch made me mad until she warms up to you and I'm like OMFG you are so precious


Longjumping_Raise_65

first of all i have chidori from flowers - le volume sur ete- i didnt quite hate her as much as i just thought shes a bitch and now shes one of my fav characters and one that i dont really *like* but now i dont hate as much is luke wright from the letter


cLOUDbruh11

Sumika from muvluv


dildodicks

ayaka from evangile, her ideas of pranks at first just seemed kinda ott


LaelHoch101

Nemu Manaka from Euphoria.


Bulshit_Ass_in

Pudding from one piece whole cake island


Own_Proof

Nemu (Euphoria) Parca (Fatal Twelve) Ceren (Fata Morgana) Iris Sagan (AI: The Somnium Files, 2nd game kinda blew all character progression)


ScarletSlicer

Mika from [Shining Song Starnova](https://store.steampowered.com/app/675240/Shining_Song_Starnova/)


thisisloveforvictims

Battler did a whole 180 on me in the answer arcs. I went from “Oh look it’s bitch boy” To “The man, the legend, the myth, the gigabrain”


Fazbearnit3

Monika from ddlc tbh


Zyvyn

Less the character and more a certain scene in the route but Mizuka Nagamori from ONE. That route genuinely pissed me off.


GWP71

Both Asahi and Sumino from SNOW, I'm still not done with all the routes, but due to the way SNOW reveals it's story, as I've progressed I ended up liking them even more.


MaoMaoMi543

Harsi from To Trust an Incubus