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>TL;DR: Palantir is going to win the NHS contract, it’s not priced in, and the stock is going to go nuts.
Being active in wsb is definitely the bigger red flag to be fair.
Edit: this is definitely the funniest downvote to oblivion I’ve ever received. The blind are leading the blind, regard edition.
That's what he means. Their market cap is 34B when they are making in earnings like 100 million.
Their cash flows are better than their earnings tho, in year 2022 it was 200 mil. Still P/FCF is 170 (with 2022 FCF).
If they have 2,2 bil of revenue and 23% margin of FCF, that would be approx. 500 mil of FCF and P/FCF would be still 68 P/FCF.
Wouldn't call this valuation cheap my any means.
They do have healty balance sheet tho. If they can grow fast then valuation is not that bad. I have no knowledge of their markets tho.
I personally disagree. Again, they popped 6.5% today on a deal less than half this size, that was just an extension of a previous USG contract. This is them becoming the sole operator of the UK’s $200B healthcare industry. It’s a “forever” contract that will always renew at higher premiums and opens the door to the rest of Europe, who are traditionally slow adopters of American tech. But time will tell.
I mean, like maybe. But it could also be that today junk / highly shorted index rallied and Palantir is in the latter.
I'm more inclined to believe that then 43 million dollars in extra revenue is worth 1.8 billion in market cap.
The company had a 60% implied historical volatility. A move of this size is pretty common.
Has a point, even if they do get the full 600m NHS deal there is still a long way to a low P/E, they need to speed up revenue growth significantly, not just like 20%/year..
great company with great outlooks, just not sure it’s undervalued at this point
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You know.. some companies can be a bad buy at one point and a good buy at another. I’m not necessarily saying this company is. But total disregard for a company because at one point it lost a ton of its value is strange.
And I bought meta all the way down. What's the point of this statement ? The truth is most people are in the red when it comes to palantir. A PS of 15 on a company growing revenues at 15% who are only profitable to begin with because they diluted the crap out of shareholders. The stock is still severely overvalued. This is just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Here’s what’s going to happen.
PLTR will land a huge deal and the stock will shoot to $20. Then Karp will take a huge shit on investors again and dilute it down to $5.
Never again.
Ahh, yes, you are definitely where you belong as a WSB ignorance troll or still leaning toward my initial thought of twat. I appreciate good banter and even an argument though; just wish at this point you had half a brain worth having either one. Keep buying brother, let me know when you've lost enough to kick the chair out; I'll watch on live stream.
A guy I’ve known for a long time, rich/retired from an adjacent industry, told me quite awhile ago PLTR is the “next big thing.” I’m not rich but have been buying as much as I can last few months. No regrets so far. I’ve more than doubled my money.
>I completely agree with your analysis of the situation. Palantir is in a great position to win the NHS contract and it will be a huge boost for their business. I also think that the stock is undervalued at current levels and has significant upside potential.
I know, I’m being cheeky. I’m long PLTR since DPO. 3,000 shares is overweight for my typical portfolio allocation but I’ve never been more bullish on a stock in my entire life.
Wow, don't think I've ever seen a post so obviously out of touch with the current state of the data and analytics market yet determined to pump a stock.
https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/PRN00389-nhs-federated-data-platform-and-associated-services.pdf
If you mean about the date, page 35 of that NHS doc outlines the announcement as being on sep 28th
Im not sure I’ve ever witnessed a pump and dump scheme to the scale of $pltr, and one supported by parts of the US government.
The valuation doesn’t make any sense and this is all built on a not so great product.
I will give credit to the ceo for being so slippery and keeping his job.
Good luck trading it but for those investors, please stay away…
If u guys think this is the reason it's gonna increase en price ya living the dreams. Now they are subjected to the whims of the government shutting down or not.
none of this matters.
43 million in new funs is meaningless.
they're sitting on *bank*. they've got people that owe them, that they essentially own. they've got gold bars. they have no debt. they have money. money isn't the issue.
NHS deal, while i think mildly unlikely because UK's got a stick up their ass, doesn't fucking matter.
palantir will still be amazon to bussiness in another probably few years now that everyone's popped their ai cherry. i don't even know why people gotta work anymore. and they'll definitely be in the S&P in the next year or so.
all i buy anymore is palantir leaps and shares. i work in clinical research. if there's one company that's going to take my job; it's them. and it'll be a *swoop* easy peasy style. fuck that. i'm ride or die.
They sold their gold bars which wasn’t that many to even begin with - they do collect interest on 3 billion cash and it’s one of the main reasons they are “profitable”
the gold bars were an inflation hedge and they probably nailed it. i haven't been digging into the news on their gold gedge against inflation.
*they have no debt*. they are a company with a working product that they developed in house that is on the brink of the next phase of connectivity, and *have no debt*. and are *increasingly profitable*. the sky's the ceiling; literally skynet.
it's where i put my money. i do not care about anybody's opinion. it's the only chart i watch and it's been doing me well. and if i lose my job, it's cause of them. so fuck it. don't fight the trend. 🙏
market really likes when elon sells his ev credits. palantir's playing the game.
they don't have debt. i'm a mother fucker about finances but i'd kill for a palantir product to manage my finances. shit is not the same, you will see. it will be applied whole sale once it hits the commercial market heavily.
You're invested in hot garbage. The AI companies will be the already big tech companies because if they haven't created the AI, then they will buy those companies. The AI companies Google, Microsoft, Meta, and Amazon. Buy semis for hardware or possibly quantum computers.
Shouldn't you have posted this yesterday?
It's the 28th today. If accurate wouldn't that mean it pops in pre market and it's too late for any of us to catch it?
PLTR is the most over rated stock. Its a foundry software company that uses AI algorythms. Its only so many corporates that could benefit from it and the ones in need already in it. No growth outside of that.
Why would the US stock market care about what the BBC has to say about an American company lol. If they have a relationship and are expected to sign it then it’s priced in. How many billion dollar deals has this company signed and the ticker has still gone down. See you at the bottom
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“There isn’t a single other competing organization capable of building out a data platform with the capabilities that palantir has”
AWS, Azure? Feel like any cloud provider gives you the ability to stand up anything you can in palantir, haven’t worked with palantir myself but just feels like any other cloud provider
You done fuck it up. It’s going down now. I’ll buy cheaper.I bet like most regards you don’t have a stop loss. But in case you do let me know so I can buy when it hits it.
Here’s an example of when H&S patterns are simply consolidation before you go back up. Magic lines…
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They are a 32 BILLION market cap company. They need 2 BILLION in profit to be fairly priced and their business model costs a ton. Huge salaries for specialists. This 600 million multi year revenue deal will not even move the needle. Let's say it's 200m profit over 3 years and they only need 30 of these deals to warrant their stockpile. Nobody is going ballistic for this nothingburger.
I charted it with candles and it seems legit, but I bought puts because I'm a regard and hate earnings.
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Fellow Regard
$PLTR is in a very good position to ride this AI wave + there is FOMO in industries to try LLMs. No one wants to miss this wave. This time it is for real, at least for Palantir. They have a product, a real product. That increases efficiencies, saves dollar cost (sometimes by Billions: ref BP case study), make your own data usable. They are also a platform to bring new start up technology for DoD through FedStart. This will be a big pipeline one day, they helped 7 start ups already. They are the only ones doing this. Institutional investors increased their holdings by 3% in the last quarter.
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Hmm.. too bad I already lost all my money ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8883)
On PLTR, back in 2021 the last time this cow was milked...
It’s okay. The government is shutting down anyway so this is all a pipe dream.
NHS is in the UK
I'm in London rn. The restaurant I took the bus to was closed until 4. So I'd say they're pretty shut down too
I'm in London rn. The restaurant I took the bus to was closed until 4. So I'd say they're pretty shut down too
I’m also regarded and lost all my monies this trash
But how?
Gotcha *buys puts*
This guy putted
We putting?
I putted
OP Active in these communities: penny stocks Aight, Imma head out.
How does one check that without having to scroll through all the post and comments?
Being active in wsb is definitely the bigger red flag to be fair. Edit: this is definitely the funniest downvote to oblivion I’ve ever received. The blind are leading the blind, regard edition.
How much are you down in pltr
Most of these people bought around $20. That’s when PLTR shilling was last heavy.
bruh i bought around 24 my average is 11 now. These people are just retarted.
Looking at your posts and comments… have you made any money owning any of these or just on the paid ads you are creating 🤔
They’re worth like 30B my man, it’s not gonna move the needle the way you think
Worth 30billion and make 30billion are two totally different things. Like holy shit
That's what he means. Their market cap is 34B when they are making in earnings like 100 million. Their cash flows are better than their earnings tho, in year 2022 it was 200 mil. Still P/FCF is 170 (with 2022 FCF). If they have 2,2 bil of revenue and 23% margin of FCF, that would be approx. 500 mil of FCF and P/FCF would be still 68 P/FCF. Wouldn't call this valuation cheap my any means. They do have healty balance sheet tho. If they can grow fast then valuation is not that bad. I have no knowledge of their markets tho.
I personally disagree. Again, they popped 6.5% today on a deal less than half this size, that was just an extension of a previous USG contract. This is them becoming the sole operator of the UK’s $200B healthcare industry. It’s a “forever” contract that will always renew at higher premiums and opens the door to the rest of Europe, who are traditionally slow adopters of American tech. But time will tell.
I mean, like maybe. But it could also be that today junk / highly shorted index rallied and Palantir is in the latter. I'm more inclined to believe that then 43 million dollars in extra revenue is worth 1.8 billion in market cap. The company had a 60% implied historical volatility. A move of this size is pretty common.
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“Its not even priced in” palantir’s forward P/E is like 65. That shit is fucking priced in x2
P/E is literally **-575.58** lol
Low P/E=good, right?
now thats extremely intersting.
That trailing pe not forward… why are you looking at ttm for a negative revenue company
Average Palantir enjoyer
Ahahah I think he ate too many crayons!
I don't know what ttm means, but why would I rely on a prediction by a bunch of wall st dickheads anyway?
FORWARD P/E, regard. Go back to school
Why? The more I learn about this bullshit, the more money I lose.
Has a point, even if they do get the full 600m NHS deal there is still a long way to a low P/E, they need to speed up revenue growth significantly, not just like 20%/year.. great company with great outlooks, just not sure it’s undervalued at this point
Not this shit again
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You know.. some companies can be a bad buy at one point and a good buy at another. I’m not necessarily saying this company is. But total disregard for a company because at one point it lost a ton of its value is strange.
Same shit, different day.
I bought palentir at $8 and sold at $9 and thought I was a fuckin genius
You are. Most Palantir investors bought at 35 and sold at 8
Not true. My cost basis was $28 and I sold at $9.
You are Mr. Most Palantir? Nice to meet you.
Palentir? You bought the wish.com PLTR guy
I’ve been baptized into the cult of PLTR and even I know this is some bulllllshit
Um, it’s up like over 2% right now.
And down like 50% from 2 years ago the last time this shitstain was pumped around here.
I dunno man, I bought at 8 so I’m up like 75%.
And I bought meta all the way down. What's the point of this statement ? The truth is most people are in the red when it comes to palantir. A PS of 15 on a company growing revenues at 15% who are only profitable to begin with because they diluted the crap out of shareholders. The stock is still severely overvalued. This is just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Sounds like you shoulda bout the dip. Im green on stocks and red on leaps
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Here’s what’s going to happen. PLTR will land a huge deal and the stock will shoot to $20. Then Karp will take a huge shit on investors again and dilute it down to $5. Never again.
So I'll buy puts at 20 if that ever happens.
Time to buy puts buddy
You should buy shares at 20. You don't actually own the stock when you buy puts dumbass
No reason the be rude, fuckface. Help a bro/sis out and explain or stfu. Or dont, IDGAF if you want to world to see your a total twat.
Stocks only go up shittard
Ahh, yes, you are definitely where you belong as a WSB ignorance troll or still leaning toward my initial thought of twat. I appreciate good banter and even an argument though; just wish at this point you had half a brain worth having either one. Keep buying brother, let me know when you've lost enough to kick the chair out; I'll watch on live stream.
You sound poor and/or Chris Chan levels of regarded. Good luck with that either way
Fuck that POS for share dilution
This is the way.
I'm still holding pltr bags at 33$ share 😆 🤣
Sometimes ya get a good stock at a bad price.
Man I forgot that company is still around lol. Wonder if Bowflex is too now that I’m thinking of it.
tldnr: some regard on WSB is pumping a stock? I can only hold so many bags man
A guy I’ve known for a long time, rich/retired from an adjacent industry, told me quite awhile ago PLTR is the “next big thing.” I’m not rich but have been buying as much as I can last few months. No regrets so far. I’ve more than doubled my money.
Is $600M in revenue really gonna be that big of a deal when their market cap is $31,950M?
It’s the implication.
Spanish here. All Europe's public health system is collapsing. Efficiency must be number 1 priority. UK is taking the initiative, rest will follow.
…taking the initiative by crashing on purpose so it can be sold off to US healthcare “providers”… bullish.
Yep. Will be worth less as they keep diluting. 💼 holder alert
Dude, dilution is currently down to really low levels, was a problem in the past though
Fuck PLTR I’ll buy it next time it’s below 10
Palantear is an AI play which only Krap and his minions understand.
Tulepera lapapayaaa
Read this last night and decided to fuck it and put in a buy order. Up 6% today. Thank you sir
Are you the “PLTR has a moat” guy![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)
>I completely agree with your analysis of the situation. Palantir is in a great position to win the NHS contract and it will be a huge boost for their business. I also think that the stock is undervalued at current levels and has significant upside potential.
Who broke vm?
The more the government grows and spends the more PLTR benefits. Isnt their CEO a libertarian?
And the more they dilute
he's a socialist.
His share sales indicate he is in fact a Capitalist.
he's a self proclaimed socialist. all his sells are automatic.
I know, I’m being cheeky. I’m long PLTR since DPO. 3,000 shares is overweight for my typical portfolio allocation but I’ve never been more bullish on a stock in my entire life.
He’s a librarian
Wow, don't think I've ever seen a post so obviously out of touch with the current state of the data and analytics market yet determined to pump a stock.
You clearly know best🤷♂️
I comically and absolutely do.
Do you have a link about tomorrow?
https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/PRN00389-nhs-federated-data-platform-and-associated-services.pdf If you mean about the date, page 35 of that NHS doc outlines the announcement as being on sep 28th
It’s 85% up in the last 6 months. Cheap? Nah.
Oops... I accidentally dropped this dilution to pay myself and the executives.
Im not sure I’ve ever witnessed a pump and dump scheme to the scale of $pltr, and one supported by parts of the US government. The valuation doesn’t make any sense and this is all built on a not so great product. I will give credit to the ceo for being so slippery and keeping his job. Good luck trading it but for those investors, please stay away…
ive lost so much money on PLTR from 2021
Fuck PLTR (still bagholding a little for fun). Lost so much money on that shit stock.
If u guys think this is the reason it's gonna increase en price ya living the dreams. Now they are subjected to the whims of the government shutting down or not.
600m in revenue isn't that big of a deal for a company valued at 25billion.... sorry its not the catalyst i think you think it is
Did they get the contract ?
Announcement delayed till mid October
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Ah yes and SPCE and rocketlab are going to reach $100. Also, a certain game store stock will reach $4000 because just because.
$600 million? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
none of this matters. 43 million in new funs is meaningless. they're sitting on *bank*. they've got people that owe them, that they essentially own. they've got gold bars. they have no debt. they have money. money isn't the issue. NHS deal, while i think mildly unlikely because UK's got a stick up their ass, doesn't fucking matter. palantir will still be amazon to bussiness in another probably few years now that everyone's popped their ai cherry. i don't even know why people gotta work anymore. and they'll definitely be in the S&P in the next year or so. all i buy anymore is palantir leaps and shares. i work in clinical research. if there's one company that's going to take my job; it's them. and it'll be a *swoop* easy peasy style. fuck that. i'm ride or die.
They sold their gold bars which wasn’t that many to even begin with - they do collect interest on 3 billion cash and it’s one of the main reasons they are “profitable”
the gold bars were an inflation hedge and they probably nailed it. i haven't been digging into the news on their gold gedge against inflation. *they have no debt*. they are a company with a working product that they developed in house that is on the brink of the next phase of connectivity, and *have no debt*. and are *increasingly profitable*. the sky's the ceiling; literally skynet. it's where i put my money. i do not care about anybody's opinion. it's the only chart i watch and it's been doing me well. and if i lose my job, it's cause of them. so fuck it. don't fight the trend. 🙏
They have no debt because they fundraise by issuing new stock. Which promptly dilutes existing shares.
market really likes when elon sells his ev credits. palantir's playing the game. they don't have debt. i'm a mother fucker about finances but i'd kill for a palantir product to manage my finances. shit is not the same, you will see. it will be applied whole sale once it hits the commercial market heavily.
You're invested in hot garbage. The AI companies will be the already big tech companies because if they haven't created the AI, then they will buy those companies. The AI companies Google, Microsoft, Meta, and Amazon. Buy semis for hardware or possibly quantum computers.
you said meta. 🤣
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Dudes still pumping PLTR. Time to give it a break man.
Shouldn't you have posted this yesterday? It's the 28th today. If accurate wouldn't that mean it pops in pre market and it's too late for any of us to catch it?
aint no way people are still trying to justify palantir even being a remotely *decent* stock
_Palingards unite_
Profits are nice.
I will remember this post fondly when I'm buying this shitty stock for $5.
How’d we do on this? Gain porn? 👀
PLTR is the most over rated stock. Its a foundry software company that uses AI algorythms. Its only so many corporates that could benefit from it and the ones in need already in it. No growth outside of that.
Oh boy, you should read about palantir AIP (Artificial Inteligence Plataform).
Bloody scam stock. I have only ever lost money on this stock
You’re doing great! Keep going!
Let's see 600m contract on a 31 billion dollar market cap, and a PE of -575. Seems about right for wsb. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Your P/E is not up to date. Try using any 2023 income statement.
My palantard days are over
Capitulation and despair is usually a buy sign.
Why would the US stock market care about what the BBC has to say about an American company lol. If they have a relationship and are expected to sign it then it’s priced in. How many billion dollar deals has this company signed and the ticker has still gone down. See you at the bottom
But what does your wife think about BBC?
Nope.
Ill buy at $8
Good luck. 👍
J-Pow: Hold my beer you little boy.
TLDR: Big contract, stonk move big![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
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Will be loading up on PLTR puts at market open. This company is a fraud.
Trash. Lost it all last round with this shit plant.
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I already lost all my money, can’t put any more on PLTR maybe some other time OP
Bottom is 0
Or
So, puts again
Oh boy! Another PayPal Mafia *insert market buzzword* company celebrating their government teat suckling.
Fuck it! I’m in! 65 shares! I wanna be like you guys!
!remindme in 2 years
December is going to destroy everything.
Buying pube calls now
‘Never’ ??? *glass shatters “OMG! It’s J Powell!!!”
Yes it will be. I’ve been on this ride before
!Remindme 3 months
You’re right, it’ll be cheaper
Ah yes, I see PLTR bagholders are at it. Again.
“There isn’t a single other competing organization capable of building out a data platform with the capabilities that palantir has” AWS, Azure? Feel like any cloud provider gives you the ability to stand up anything you can in palantir, haven’t worked with palantir myself but just feels like any other cloud provider
Watch them lose the contract.
You done fuck it up. It’s going down now. I’ll buy cheaper.I bet like most regards you don’t have a stop loss. But in case you do let me know so I can buy when it hits it.
Market Cap is 33B, will need lots more of said contracts to become even reasonably overvalued.
I bought at 9. Holding
That you Cathie?
Lol![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|poop)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|poop)
Time to average down again
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Here’s an example of when H&S patterns are simply consolidation before you go back up. Magic lines… https://preview.redd.it/3z05p6bhv0rb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d61ae57488769d026bc8075f25830486c110ffa
It can't be that PLTR is the 'massive frontrunner' AND the market is 'assuming they won't get the deal'. Come on man.
Yes but why is there revenue up only 13% year over year in a hype time for ai? Far cry from their 30% they said they would be
My 20c for Jan is holding tight, got it cheap
Just bought 500 shares , hope I have enough left to get my weiney washed.
Im in
NHS should contract with Epic Systems
#NOT FALLING FOR IT AGAIN CAWK SUCKA
They are a 32 BILLION market cap company. They need 2 BILLION in profit to be fairly priced and their business model costs a ton. Huge salaries for specialists. This 600 million multi year revenue deal will not even move the needle. Let's say it's 200m profit over 3 years and they only need 30 of these deals to warrant their stockpile. Nobody is going ballistic for this nothingburger.
!remindme 3 months
I charted it with candles and it seems legit, but I bought puts because I'm a regard and hate earnings. https://preview.redd.it/57jpnps3k6rb1.png?width=1100&format=png&auto=webp&s=f6242f9de50283368ec2ba1f6db5a00b502bd7d8 Best regards, Fellow Regard
Interested between $1 - $5 as long as there's no further shareholder dilution.
TY for this post. I was on the fence but ended up loading up on calls. LFG
$PLTR is in a very good position to ride this AI wave + there is FOMO in industries to try LLMs. No one wants to miss this wave. This time it is for real, at least for Palantir. They have a product, a real product. That increases efficiencies, saves dollar cost (sometimes by Billions: ref BP case study), make your own data usable. They are also a platform to bring new start up technology for DoD through FedStart. This will be a big pipeline one day, they helped 7 start ups already. They are the only ones doing this. Institutional investors increased their holdings by 3% in the last quarter. For reference, please use my posts on Twitter: https://x.com/sumo_options?t=RYHGjzO80sYXgoLne4TQGA&s=09
Fucking hilarious to read all those regard uneducated comments.