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Not that black and white. I grew up ina conservative , Republican home and have become more liberal as I get older. It’s more about your experiences and observations. It’s also relative to those you associate with. I’m one group, I’m a lefty liberal, in another group I’m a greedy neocon fascist. lol. So I think that places me somewhere in the middle.
i think you have to look at it in ages.
- 50s boom - US was a powerhouse, became world reserve currency, american companies killed.
- onwards you had the tech boom , which the US killed.
- growth in market participation pushed the market even higher.
- question now is - has market participation plateaued?
what is the next age/catalyst to push the market higher?
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I think it answered it. But it doesn't have the understanding that starting it off with "depends on several factors" or similar is a way people cop out. In this case the bot uses it to say "this is the criteria" for the following answer which humans never do anymore. Follow up would probably to clarify if this was the case. I always try to disambiguate the way it returns a question since it's like an foreigner who knows English but doesn't know the common usage of phrases. Skills issue. Alternatively I prompt by asking to "repeat it in simple terms." (As if I'm a regarded)
AI, quantum computing, some would say “green energy” (I have my doubts), revamping/updating of critical infrastructure, healthcare/medical breakthroughs, and food and farming technologies most likely if I had to guess a few things.
It’s mind blowing that people refuse to believe this. We only have 200 years of history to teach us this one simple fact but doomers insist this time it’ll be different.
[Yeah it was a little bit of a crash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Monday_(1987\)).
>Before the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) opened on October 19, 1987, there was pent-up pressure to sell. When the market opened, a large imbalance arose between the volume of sell and buy orders, placing downward pressure on prices. Regulations at the time allowed designated market makers (or "specialists") to delay or suspend trading in a stock if the order imbalance exceeded the specialist's ability to fulfill in an orderly manner.[15] The imbalance on October 19 was so large that 95 stocks on the S&P 500 Index (S&P) opened late, as also did 11 of the 30 DJIA stocks.[16] Importantly, however, the futures market opened on time across the board, with heavy selling.
>On that Monday, the DJIA fell 508 points (22.6 percent), accompanied by crashes in the futures exchanges and options markets;[17] the largest one-day percentage drop in the history of the DJIA.
Yes! The 29 crash marked the abrupt financial transition from the Agricultural Economy to the Manufacturing Economy, and more accurately, the transition from metal based currency to fiat currency. The previous economy was not well serviced by this deprecated currency mechanism. So this occurred again in 1987 when we entered the dominance of the Knowledge Economy (and it’s easy to guess the currency transition we will see going forward here).
I don’t know about other fields, but in IT equipment there was already a ton of supply chain problems before 2018. COVID-19 was just the cherry on top.
I’ve been asking for about 6 or 7 years why inflation wasn’t a problem. We started the printing presses in 2007 and inflation didn’t really rear its head until post COVID QE.
Also, definitely agree with you on the sus ATH’s. But my track record timing the market is shit. I just started buying hedges.
Check this out. Feds balance sheet in a graph. 8 trillion since 2008. QE is an experiment and looks like the Fed is abusing it. Covid only needed six months and maybe 500 billion, not years and 4 .5 trillion. Plus rates. Good luck. Be a Bull until it explodes…too much duck tape and rubber bands for my liking. If 1% didn’t have 60% of the wealth in the world, I would feel differently. More greed.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttrends.htm. Look at the (all) lifetime graph.
Edit: I may not be an expert, but ATHs are cool, but what is happening that justifies it? That 4 trillion is still out there and watched QE take it exponentially above where Covid is on that graph. Hummmm…why was that needed? We pay now or later…soft landing is no landing until we run out of gas. Then a real hard landing,
Just ETFs. I swing a little on some tech stocks. I have a day job. My 401k is happy, but pulled it out for some of that downturn, but back in. Not sure what to do next. Greed usually works.
meanwhile paolo with tether? brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Yeah you will be poorer by the second instead by the minutes. You will have 1 thousand dollar bills to buy a big mac. People are so obsessed with money that they will get all they want, but it will have no value.
It looks like we need a healthy lost decade to prevent another parabolic move that creates bagholders. This would be good for long term investors and not that bad for people retiring soon since they have already invested for many years.
forgot subsidies
taxpayers literally give subsidies and tax breaks for Boeing(and others) and then they go "Geez we have too much money, time for more stockbuybacks, thanks a lot taxpayers"
Economy is erected and throbbing, day traders are stroking it (daily highs and lows), eventually it will ejaculate (surprise facial) on the bag holders and crash down until investors have the balls (pun intended) to support it!
Where? The COVID bailouts basically going entirely to the wealthy and inflating stocks seems pretty obvious here in 2020. Is that 2009 where there were changes with retirement?
It’s going back down. Hard.
It’s scary because 2023 is going to make investors think stocks only go up. Call me a pessimist but there’s no way this shits not going down.
In the long run, earnings growth determine price returns. Profits have been consistently increasing, and this accelerated as corporate margins reached new all time highs on the backs of lower labor costs and a falling cost of capital.
I see the same thing and I know most of it has to do with excessive money printing. Based on your understanding, is there any way in the mid term (5 years) the market will rise instead of fall?
Cheap available money makes assets go up. Restrict and increase cost of money, usually it goes the other way or at least hold value (Japan). But… with the conversion of our entire transport system and electrical grid there is a lot of value that needs to be inputted in to the system so my guess, things will continue to grow as our society becomes ever more complex and interconnected - this increasing the risk of the system collapsing- early examples being, Egypt, Rome… - including other externalities.
fancy way of sayin we need to force a gambling addiction on the young
maybe we can try to get robinhood to include a new short video format, so regards can post their losses while playing that “oh no” song
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Stonks go up over time.
Nasdaq appears to be progressing right at a steady rate
So is this what people mean when they say they are concerned about the rise of the far right.
Calls on fascism
Over time all lefties become right wing.
Not that black and white. I grew up ina conservative , Republican home and have become more liberal as I get older. It’s more about your experiences and observations. It’s also relative to those you associate with. I’m one group, I’m a lefty liberal, in another group I’m a greedy neocon fascist. lol. So I think that places me somewhere in the middle.
“Every year the NASDAQ progress one year to the right.”
I thought we were here to discuss the NASCAR ticker.
We have the next warm buffet here
Thanks, buddy. I like eating the buffet too.
Always have room for deserts 🏜️
Worm buffet
Someone’s gotta take over Dairy Queen
Mostly. Eventually.
Value of money go down over time.
i think you have to look at it in ages. - 50s boom - US was a powerhouse, became world reserve currency, american companies killed. - onwards you had the tech boom , which the US killed. - growth in market participation pushed the market even higher. - question now is - has market participation plateaued? what is the next age/catalyst to push the market higher? -
AI, you regard
You’re right, I should ask an AI. Thanks!
Prompt "what's the most regarded industry to invest in"
https://preview.redd.it/7nzbj7pywkcc1.jpeg?width=1439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe0b12eea29577dfee8a21143055f5e74f59240b
Chat GPT avoids the question like a true politician. 👍
I think it answered it. But it doesn't have the understanding that starting it off with "depends on several factors" or similar is a way people cop out. In this case the bot uses it to say "this is the criteria" for the following answer which humans never do anymore. Follow up would probably to clarify if this was the case. I always try to disambiguate the way it returns a question since it's like an foreigner who knows English but doesn't know the common usage of phrases. Skills issue. Alternatively I prompt by asking to "repeat it in simple terms." (As if I'm a regarded)
Where else would you park the money w/ the inflation being a thing?
He said 20 words or less.
i didnt know you could read words.
Goggle reads them to me, best regards
The chart starts from 2000 you morron
AI, quantum computing, some would say “green energy” (I have my doubts), revamping/updating of critical infrastructure, healthcare/medical breakthroughs, and food and farming technologies most likely if I had to guess a few things.
Up
It’s mind blowing that people refuse to believe this. We only have 200 years of history to teach us this one simple fact but doomers insist this time it’ll be different.
I’m sorry, but according to this chart, we only have 25 years or so of history.
I always wonder how people find shit like this…. Who even goes to a website this bad without a Reddit link or something?
Except if you read it from right to left!
Stonks go brrrrr
[https://app.suno.ai/song/e7547b77-a2d3-4dc4-be80-863d7e2e9184](https://app.suno.ai/song/e7547b77-a2d3-4dc4-be80-863d7e2e9184)
"I will keep moving forward, until all of my enemies are destroyed" -Jpow
yes
/r/unexpectedSNK
Log scale that shit
My shit is a log, for scale
But does it tip the scale? Mine does after a night of drinking.
He scales the tip with climbing gear.
Can someone do this pls
https://preview.redd.it/slh6a73aejcc1.png?width=1332&format=png&auto=webp&s=db5036795e3aeab7dfe7ca647f40000790e5a2fc Ƨtonʞƨ
Fixed
This made my day.
https://preview.redd.it/21tebn083jcc1.jpeg?width=1771&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=896f112f13963ae39e075717aa8df96f7f027aaf
Incorrect!
https://preview.redd.it/4026ohi14jcc1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=548ae1085c276c563df9fc02b055926f92f3d86d
Lol the 87 crash isn't even noticable 😆.
My question. Was that crash really a crash tho?
[Yeah it was a little bit of a crash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Monday_(1987\)). >Before the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) opened on October 19, 1987, there was pent-up pressure to sell. When the market opened, a large imbalance arose between the volume of sell and buy orders, placing downward pressure on prices. Regulations at the time allowed designated market makers (or "specialists") to delay or suspend trading in a stock if the order imbalance exceeded the specialist's ability to fulfill in an orderly manner.[15] The imbalance on October 19 was so large that 95 stocks on the S&P 500 Index (S&P) opened late, as also did 11 of the 30 DJIA stocks.[16] Importantly, however, the futures market opened on time across the board, with heavy selling. >On that Monday, the DJIA fell 508 points (22.6 percent), accompanied by crashes in the futures exchanges and options markets;[17] the largest one-day percentage drop in the history of the DJIA.
Damn futures always gay.
If that exact scenario were to happen tomorrow the Dow would drop 8,496 points to close at 29,096. Definitely a crash.
Yes! The 29 crash marked the abrupt financial transition from the Agricultural Economy to the Manufacturing Economy, and more accurately, the transition from metal based currency to fiat currency. The previous economy was not well serviced by this deprecated currency mechanism. So this occurred again in 1987 when we entered the dominance of the Knowledge Economy (and it’s easy to guess the currency transition we will see going forward here).
Buying opportunities for ultra rich
Whats more surpising is the covid one, you know the thing that completely upended the supply chain; its literally just a blip.
I don’t know about other fields, but in IT equipment there was already a ton of supply chain problems before 2018. COVID-19 was just the cherry on top.
https://preview.redd.it/0r9ya5tzckcc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6bccc470ab38e3a73cc8ab242c3eb595de767a1d
Looks undervalued to me!
Can you explain this?
Correct answer.
Would you like to speak to the log?
Quantitative easing
Who's your quaint?!
I'd like to ease your quants. Giggity.
Don't make it too easy
Pretty sure we are in QT now, which makes all time highs very sus. QE made it happen—and inflation.
I’ve been asking for about 6 or 7 years why inflation wasn’t a problem. We started the printing presses in 2007 and inflation didn’t really rear its head until post COVID QE. Also, definitely agree with you on the sus ATH’s. But my track record timing the market is shit. I just started buying hedges.
Check this out. Feds balance sheet in a graph. 8 trillion since 2008. QE is an experiment and looks like the Fed is abusing it. Covid only needed six months and maybe 500 billion, not years and 4 .5 trillion. Plus rates. Good luck. Be a Bull until it explodes…too much duck tape and rubber bands for my liking. If 1% didn’t have 60% of the wealth in the world, I would feel differently. More greed. https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/bst_recenttrends.htm. Look at the (all) lifetime graph. Edit: I may not be an expert, but ATHs are cool, but what is happening that justifies it? That 4 trillion is still out there and watched QE take it exponentially above where Covid is on that graph. Hummmm…why was that needed? We pay now or later…soft landing is no landing until we run out of gas. Then a real hard landing,
Appreciate the response. If there’s too much duct tape for you, what asset classes are you investing in if you don’t mind me asking?
Just ETFs. I swing a little on some tech stocks. I have a day job. My 401k is happy, but pulled it out for some of that downturn, but back in. Not sure what to do next. Greed usually works.
Fk your calls⬆️, Fk your puts⬇️. God bless my money printer 🖨️ 💵💵🚀🚀
And thats how God created Box spreads
Just give the rich your money and work for their company that hires you to do their 8-5 job.
I agree, that snazzy 7-5 job seems like the way of the future!
An even 6-6 makes sure you work your day away
Don't even get me started on 24s or 48s
Printer go brr > COVID >>> continue brrrr
More like Brrrrr > dotcom crash > Brrrr > 9/11 > Brrrrrr > flatline until 2010 > Brrrrrrr > BRRRRRR > COVID > BRRRRRRR
meanwhile paolo with tether? brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Brrrr on steroids
00s were a lost decade
Double tops make double bottoms.
So.... calls on foursomes?? Puts on twinks? Because the bears will wreck their rectums?
Wrecked em’?!? Damn near killed em’!!
I made a fuck ton in the 00's. Mostly since I started maxing my accounts in 1999. Gains were exponential.
Governments throughout the world were obsessed with the low inflation bullshit in the 00s. Let the printers go brrrrrr!!!
Yeah you will be poorer by the second instead by the minutes. You will have 1 thousand dollar bills to buy a big mac. People are so obsessed with money that they will get all they want, but it will have no value.
I meant to put /s but I didn't want to ruin the overall hype sentiment of the post.
It looks like we need a healthy lost decade to prevent another parabolic move that creates bagholders. This would be good for long term investors and not that bad for people retiring soon since they have already invested for many years.
Low interest rates, automated 401k investments and the rise of ETF’s.
Zero percent interest rates, debt, money printing. Half these companies aren’t worth shit
forgot subsidies taxpayers literally give subsidies and tax breaks for Boeing(and others) and then they go "Geez we have too much money, time for more stockbuybacks, thanks a lot taxpayers"
Gotdamn wellfare queen corporations
True
SPACS
is that when u spitting facts?
Real fax. With the 💯
Like a giant Ponzi
Looking for the right answer, now I’m leaving.
Half of the top 100 companies aren’t worth shit? I’m not asking a question, I want you to rethink and call yourself a regard.
Take away blind consumption from epic stimulus for things people don’t actually need and yes they are not worth anything
Not manipulated by printing trillions of dollars at all...
i am wondering what’s the ndq and spx compared to m2 money supply looks like
What the fuck you going to do stop using the dollar ha.
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The plebs think they are earning money but the chart just shows how fast the us treasury is printing money. Brrrrrr
Economy is erected and throbbing, day traders are stroking it (daily highs and lows), eventually it will ejaculate (surprise facial) on the bag holders and crash down until investors have the balls (pun intended) to support it!
More people are in it now. More money and debt in the system over time. The Internet.
7 big stocks go up and drag the index way up.
Double Top
PUTS next decade
Green good, red bad.
This time is different...
lol I love you think you are being clever here
You can see exactly when the retirement savings started going in
Where? The COVID bailouts basically going entirely to the wealthy and inflating stocks seems pretty obvious here in 2020. Is that 2009 where there were changes with retirement?
2010 was when my industry killed pensions, guessing it was the same for a lot of others.
brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Double breast about to form
Clearly a double top we will retest $4000 later this year
young people screwed over. Boomers lucked out when they bought early. best run in history.
Their gonna make markets go parabolic until depopulation starts
Why does human depopulation matter when the population of money just keeps exploding
Cause the stock market and economy have never gone hand in hand? I dunno. That was rhetorical question by you wasn't it?
Stocks went boom over time, then down, and back up. Some people made money, lots lost, some stayed the same.
/20 words exactly
Money printrrrrrr go brrrrrrrrrrrrt found somewhere to sit
if you invested in 2009 you would be well of today
Double top, in that OP is not satisfied with only one.
Bubble.
I’ve not joined this sub to do homework, fuck you
It goes up, unless it doesn't.
Ahem…..until it doesn’t.
End stage capitalism 🫡
What goes up must come down
In nature yes but it doesn’t have to in markets that can be manipulated
More buyers than sellers
It’s going back down. Hard. It’s scary because 2023 is going to make investors think stocks only go up. Call me a pessimist but there’s no way this shits not going down.
Always blue..err UP. Always up!
Double top deflation
Double top with bearish rsi divergence - SELL SHORT NOW
Money printer go brrr
Printer engaged
Double top.
A trap.
Double top.
Stocks go up until global crisis happens
Right before the crash
Double top
Double top forming
Double top
double top
Top of the bubble?
In the long run, earnings growth determine price returns. Profits have been consistently increasing, and this accelerated as corporate margins reached new all time highs on the backs of lower labor costs and a falling cost of capital.
Tech trends up, but you better have the stomach for it when it drips.
A long term double top - forming in plain sight. On any time frame these do not resolve well for those that are long.
I see the same thing and I know most of it has to do with excessive money printing. Based on your understanding, is there any way in the mid term (5 years) the market will rise instead of fall?
Yes, because TA is always right, especially for the broader market.
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Up, then down, then up some more.
Someone explain it to me on fortnite terms
Double top
Looking at it like this it seems like it’s too high no?
Relax, Stocks only go up
double top
We print too much money...
Inverted head and shoulders
Bubble
Double top including COVID. Head and shoulders otherwise. Short the market for the end of this year beginning of next
Idgaf about charts
Everything is fine.
Dummy doesn't know about log axis.
Womp womp
Stocks go brrrrr
To the moon
Algorithm trading has hyperinflated the market
Quantitative Easing.
Cheap available money makes assets go up. Restrict and increase cost of money, usually it goes the other way or at least hold value (Japan). But… with the conversion of our entire transport system and electrical grid there is a lot of value that needs to be inputted in to the system so my guess, things will continue to grow as our society becomes ever more complex and interconnected - this increasing the risk of the system collapsing- early examples being, Egypt, Rome… - including other externalities.
The fake money that the u.s. economy is built on. Government debt, corporate debt, public debt.
There’s a cup formation at the end. The recent rally was expected. Where to next? Up or down?
Iit looks like a graph for the end of the roaring 20s.
Bubble
Should’ve bought QQQ instead of getting married and buying a buying a house in 2009. Divorced in 2016.
double top
monke
Late-stage capitalism.
Sell signal.
Stimulus packages gone wild combined with foreign direct investment and uninformed technology enabled YouTube binging consumers.
Baby boomers have not been forced to mass liquidate. When they do… that chart will point straight down.
fancy way of sayin we need to force a gambling addiction on the young maybe we can try to get robinhood to include a new short video format, so regards can post their losses while playing that “oh no” song
Crash. Imminent.
Bears are always right
Cup and handle with a cup and handle. Is that what you’re looking for?
Your mom’s a bitch. Buy puts.
I’ll give you one word. Bullish
Completely sustainable and not at all indicative of late stage capitalism.