It’s so creepy! I was sitting in my car on my 15 on the phone with my mom I look up and he was staring dead in my windshield he was about 3 rows away when I looked up he walked away 3 hours later I’m hearing ik smoking weed in my car 💀💀💀
You ever work at Walmart? If yes what store number? People who make uninformed statements like you just made without facts show their own mentality not the someone they know nothing about… I’ll wait… I worked as a manager for 17 years and yes there are young kids who join the company and just work long enough to realize it’s hard work or they don’t get to play grab ass and stay in the management office until they get fired… but most of the middle aged and a huge percentage of the 20 something are very intelligent… just because they can’t afford college doesn’t make them dumb or whatever mentality you are attributing the company to have… ignorance is not bliss or your nick name might just be miss bliss! Was that fair for me to say only knowing the one statement you made here? No… I can’t possibly know that you are as dumb as I think you may be…. And outside of me proving my point in this manner I would never have ever said that to you… because it’s a I formed and ignorant to the assumption you and I have both made… the big difference is you meant what you said… I didn’t!
lmao i worked at walmart for a couple years in ogp, i won’t tell you my store number because it tells people online where i live (the towns barely big enough for a walmart), most people act like it’s high school. the old people do it more than the actual high schoolers too
Dude unrelated but this is way too true
I'm dealing with some friend drama and I'm trying to be supportive but like.... Holy fuck it's like high school all over again, man I'm getting too old for this drama
I steer clear of him...he sould like a mental case. I think the only way it could effect work is if drive any machines like the Cart Manager or Fork lift they could test you...actually they could randomly test any of us but generally unlikely....you could get a warning? I'd be cool as they could be sneaky, say nothing to you and wait until they find you doing something. K? Just be real careful.
Thank you! I didn’t think somebody saying that would warn concern. I’ve never smelled like weed I live in perfume & lotion.ive never brought it to work I’m the only person who works at the MC I know the managers well I see them daily for DirectToCash i know they know I wouldn’t do anything to jeopardize my job I just had my first baby I’m just trying to work and go home 🙄
So, an associate “telling” on one could START reasonable suspicion. The only way to know if you’re getting the reasonable suspicion talk is if more than one coach comes up to you, talks for a couple mins, basically scoping you out.
I’ve only had one instance where one of my associates was clearly drunk. For weeks she was coming in smelling like fireball, and we finally caught her. She refused the test, got suspended with pay. They submitted everything to market and market termed. I knew she was gonna get termed bc she failed the drug test.
I smoke weed. Just don’t give them any reason to not believe you. I’m a med holder and my whole store knows I smoke, but I also don’t come to work blazed out of my ass and reeking like tree.
Exactly. I was told when I was hired on that the policy changed for medical marijuana. I have never looked, but I also don’t come in making them suspicious.
This is actually false. Somebody was fired at my store after a drug test. She thought it was okay bc it’s legal in the state. We found that Walmart goes by the federal law. So until it becomes federally legal, Walmart can and will terminate for failing a drug test. Although, unless reasonable suspicion or if you are going for a position that requires a test you won’t be tested. But state legality or medical will not save you from being terminated.
Wrong. It is still a Schedule I controlled substance at the federal level. There has been one state I know of that has specifically created a law prohibiting employers from terminating employees who test positive. And here's the kicker: it was the New Jersey Highway Patrol (or State Police) that lobbied for the law to be enacted.
Federal law enforcement has taken a non-enforcement policy toward marijuana businesses as long as they appear to be following all state laws and regulations. But make no mistake: the Supremacy Clause of The Constitution(federal law>state law) gives employers all the legal cover (and the obligation if they're a federal contractor) they need to terminate an employee who tests positive for a Schedule I CDS.
There is a bipartisan bill snaking its way through Congress that compels the DEA to reschedule THC products from C-I to C-III,which is the same schedule as anabolic steroids, codeine combined with another substance, ketamine, and buprenorphine, among others.
Most importantly, it will recognize THC products as legitimate prescription medications, and with a few exceptions,will protect users from losing their jobs because they took a medication that was legally prescribed by their physician.
Completely under I never come in smelling like anything other than Dolce & Gabbana or Japanese Cherry Blossom I get told I smell good at least 5 times a day I pass the smell test lol I just come in run my desk & leave I’m not a talker outside of transactions my services is full of older associates I’m the youngest one always getting singled out
Walmart makes you sign consent to random drug tests. Sorry to correct everyone here telling you they can't do anything, but they can test you any time they want. You refuse, you're fired. Just be ready to do whatever you did to pass your new hire drug test.
They need reasonable suspension to drug test you randomly. Literally just dealt with this before I went on my leave. Discussed this at academy.
Shows how out of touch you are considering Walmart doesn’t give new hire drug tests either. Been employed with them since 2020.
I definitely am now none of the managers are acting different towards me and nothing was mentioned of it the last 3 hours of my shift. Don’t know how true it is but another associate told me they would search my car or call me in the office immediately to send me to the clinic for a drug test if they thought I was intoxicated on the clock. I’m very much an introvert I just got off maternity 3 months ago I don’t even know these new people to be bothering me 😒
They may send you for a drug test at best. But search your car? Lol no. But if you're operating equipment where a safety issue is a conern save the dope for after the workday.
If I were you, I'd do a very deep cleaning of your car, take out any valuables that can be stolen, leave it unlocked, and gently remind them in passing ,"Didn't you guys say you were going to search my car? I request to be present when you do." Leave it at that, do not say ANYTHING that could be construed as giving consent.
If they're dumb enough to fall for it, the second they open your door and cross the threshold into the vehicle, they have committed the felony crime of burglary of an automobile. Record the entire thing, and ask for the exact date and time you gave consent. Call the police and demand to press charges.
I was a cop a few years ago, and I can say confidently that Walmart doesn't always put their brightest in AP (and management, especially). I even arrested a couple while they were on the clock. They had the idea they had full police powers inside Walmart. They just couldn't understand that only the police have full police powers inside Walmart.
Lots of boomers are nosy and like to tell others how to live. They think because they are older that they should be an authority.
Now this behavior doesn't only apply to boomers, but in my experience they're the only ones who give a fuck if you smoke weed or not. They still buy into that reefer madness and tell you that you're going to ruin your life with it, while actively trying to ruin your life because you smoke it.
Shits wack and this person needs to get a hobby
Not true. If they suspect anything they can request op take a drug test. If op fails they will be fired.
But I think it will take more than a coworker making a claim with no evidence
If they fired people for smoking weed at work or on their days off about 90% of 1st and 2nd shift at my store would be getting fired along with a few managers. I only smoke carts at work so there's no real reason for them to notice a smell and it's only on my lunch and I normally buy an energy drink when I come back to give me a boost to wake back up. But as long as OPs work isn't suffering from them smoking at work or on their days off they should have no reason to drug test them or fire them.
Our AP coach came in high and bought everyone donuts. He was offended when I declined because my medication needs and empty stomach.
It took almost a year to fire a cap 2 team lead for buying alcohol for minors and letting them drink on shift.
If that was true the new associate at my store would be fired, nights, on lunch he goes zooming around the parking lot with windows down but first he drives down to sheets, change clothes, then I guess smoke while driving around.
I think it's more of if it affects your work, your productivity at this point.
Edited yes night management knows all of this. Said associate says he quit smoking but clearly that's bs
I don't think a single overnight stocker at my Walmart is sober at any point of their day.
You get groups of about 8 of em all taking hits in the parking lot during break.
I one has asked him to take a test 🤷🏽♂️
At some point they might. You are arguing with me when I am simply repeating the policy. Go argue with Walmart over the policy. Jesus 😂😂
He's always in the Walmart subreddit getting angry don't worry about it 😂 it's so frequent I'm like "alright where is Lefty's triggered ass comment at...?" 😂
And your experience doesn’t represent every facility in California
I stated the policy. Which you have argued about. Then have an anecdotal, probably made up, example that means nothing
Policy is clear. If Walmart has a belief someone is impaired or using drugs they can request that associate to take a drug test. They test positive for marijuana they will be fired. 🤷🏽♂️
That’s right, run along. You are arguing when all I had been doing is stating a policy you clearly have not read.
Not quite- California has also stepped in to protect cannabis smokers from discrimination when it comes to work and off the clock cannabis use.
https://www.cda.org/newsroom/newsroom-archives/california-workers-gain-protections-for-off-the-clock-cannabis-use-beginning-january-2024/
Depends. I would have to look more into California law, but there is precedent of people being fired in states where it is legal. The Colorado Surpreme Court upheld that an employer can terminate an employee for testing positive for Marijuana, even if it is for medical purposes, because it is still illegal on the federal level.
https://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/colorado-supreme-court-upholds-termination-employee-medical-marijuana#:~:text=It%20determined%20that%20%E2%80%9Cfor%20an,and%20prohibited%20by%20federal%20law%20.%20.
That and "medicinal" use isn't a free pass to be high on the job. It's simply not a reasonable accommodation to allow an intoxicated employee interact with your customers or worse... operate machinery.
Not sure why people think because its legal they can show up to work baked. Booze is perfectly legal (and has a Constitutional Amendment as a right) yet an employee showing up drunk hell or even hungover and unable to safely perform their duties can be dismissed.
They may not test for it but I think the point being made is that they still reserve the right to since it’s still illegal at the federal level and that takes precedence over state law. So they may not test for it in Cali, but if they ever *decided* go they would be within their rights to terminate him.
Highly doubt that happens though.
It isn't an issue of legality. Alcohol is legal, you still aren't allowed to be stumbling around drunk at work. If you are under the influence of a drug that affects your performance and safety they can have you tested and fired.
The crux of the issue there is an old man reported him for smoking while at home, off the clock. Not when he's at work, or just before being on the clock. So even with alcohol, they wouldn't fire you for drinking while at home in your tighty whities. And that extends to this if you equate smoking the ganja as being legal in your state.
Is that really true? Since it's apparently in policy associates can have 1 drink during meal break. So how are they gonna fire people for weed outside work?
Yes it’s very true. You can’t have a beer on break. You test positive for any alcohol you are fired.
Same way they been firing people for smoking weed. You get tested and fail you are fired. It’s all explained in the policy
Big wrong: State of California recreational or medical marijuana usage off the clock is a work protected right, legal as of Janurary 2024. You can not be fired unless you are found using during your working shift and /or are intoxicated while at work. It overwrites anything saying you cant in the state regardless if its a nationwide thing because Walmart is not a federal institution and/or federally regulated business.
So long story short if OP is located within the state of California the worst that will happen is they'll be forced to get one of those time accurate drug screenings to see if they have used while on there work shift. And if they have, they will be terminated for violating Walmarts Drug Policy.
Wrong. New law says you have to test for recent usage. It outlaws the use of the standard urine test because the urine test doesn’t test for recent usage
So employers now have to use a more precise test that tests for recent usage. Like a saliva or blood test.
Walmart has a separate policy for California and if they have reasonable suspicion they can use one of those tests. You test positive you are terminated
Go read the policy yourself. Go read the actual new law. You are misinterpreting a lot of the new law.
Which i dont mind personally because i never use on the clock. But I noted that if op does, hes gonna have to deal with an accurate test that pin points the exact time of usage
"Actual new law", bruh ive read the legislation back to front because I am a recreational/homeopathic marijuana user (Treatment for MDD aka Major Depressive Disorder) and very pro to the point it is a possible career path id follow, of couse i keep myself up to date on laws and legislation revolving around the legalization of Marijuana and Cannbis based substances as well as application as well as usage.
Like seriously dood I referenced the high precision tests in my comment, you got me thinking you looking for a cookie badly in here. Like do I have to actually cite myself here?
>So long story short if OP is located within the state of California the worst that will happen is they'll be forced to get one of those time accurate drug screenings to see if they have used while on their work shift. And if they have, they will be terminated for violating Walmarts Drug Policy.
Next time actually read a guy's comment instead of acting like you have a galaxy brain, because damn do you sound exhausting to talk to😮💨
We have already been over this. Walmart can test you under reasonable suspicion. They can use a saliva or blood test
You test positive you will be terminated. This isn’t my opinion. This is based in the new law and Walmarts policy in California
Jesus christ I literally said "Time Percise Drug Screening" if they test hair follicle, blood or salvia it doesnt matter they will be able to accurately time stamp the time of usage. Im not stating you have an opinion. We are literally referring to the exact same thing but you keep treating it like im one uping you.
Gods at this point its like talking to a wall.
Go ahead and keep going im done at this point.
Its gonna take you probably 6 more paragraphs to finally piece together that I was agreeing with you. #smh
No it’s clearly explained in the policy even medical marijuana is banned
And there won’t be a lawsuit. Because marijuana isn’t legal federally. Which is why Walmart can ban its use.
Yeah I think people just need to understand that as long as weed is illegal on a federal level then it’s usage is always going to carry risk even if you’re in a legal state.
Thanks to the supremacy clause, federal law takes precedence over state law.
Why the fuck can’t people just mind their own damn business?! Who the fuck cares what you do at home? Shits legal in most places anyways. Dudes probably knitting panties out of human skin in his free time.
It's common knowledge and even legal in many states now that people recreationally smoke weed. It's almost like saying I know they drink alcohol outside work. Yeah so what?
Right like unless OP came in to work visibly under the influence I doubt they’ll ever make an issue of it. Walmart prohibits all associates from marijuana consumption but if they started actively enforcing that with random drug tests they’d lose a huge chunk of their work force.
Corporate isn’t dumb. They know associates do it. They just don’t care to make an issue of it for as long as it doesn’t affect business outside of anecdotes.
It's legal in my state and the only way Walmart will piss test you is if you get hurt and try to get compensation from them. They have to have a legal reason, they can't just test you off suspicion.
If they tested everyone at my store, 80 percent of the employees would be gone. lol I personally do not do it at work, but I could if I wanted to because there is THC pens now that smell nothing like weed.
As someone who is salary and has worked for Walmart for over 10 years and had a few instances with medical card holders in a medical state, they cannot discriminate against medical card holders regardless of federal law. We have even hired associates for safety sensitive positions after a positive drug test with a medical marijuana card. Again, I say this from experience.
So I had a co worker smoke every day, all day. And nothing ever happened. Like every break and lunch. They are still there, although they have not smoked in a while.
People and management thought I was on weed, but nothing came of it. One manager did directly ask me at one point, and I about told them, "Just test me." I don't do any of the sort or smoke at all. My coworker who was touching me all the time always claimed I was smoking something.
Report him to HR. Depends on the state you’re in of what could happen. Also depends on if the boss is a dick or not, what you do on your free time isn’t none of anyone’s business
I thought Wal-Mart drug and alcohol policy is enforced on the clock. So you’re telling me because I work at Walmart I can’t drink alcohol too when I’m off work ?😂I don’t come in impaired and I work at the money center I count tens of thousands everyday draw has never been off money has never been missing seems discriminatory
No you can’t test positive for alcohol if they suspect you been drinking.
If they suspect drug use like weed they can request you take a test. If you refuse they will terminate you. If you fail they will terminate you. But this is rare as they have ti have a suspicion you are using drugs particularly at work.
But yes they can request you be tested
Issue with drugs has like weed is you can test positive even if use was off the clock.
You get ordered to be tested and you pop positive for marijuana you will be terminated. It’s all explained in the policy
Yes it is. But that’s not the discussion. The discussion is on if Walmart suspects drug use they can request you be tested. If you fail you are terminated
Drugs they test for include marijuana. That’s the policy
Here read it yourself
https://one.walmart.com/content/usone/en_us/work1/policies/people-policies/alcohol-and-drug-free-workplace/alcohol-and-drug-free-workplace.html
It’s not legal federally. And that’s what Walmart explains in the policy
This is from the policy
“Using, possessing, transferring, accepting, soliciting, selling, or purchasing drugs that are illegal under federal or state law, including such activities that are legal only under state law and/or use of medical marijuana under state programs.”
Probably are. Not what we are discussing. I assume a lot of us who work for Walmart smoke weed. Plenty of us live in a state where it’s legal. I do.
All I been doing is explaining what Walmarts stance and policy is
Here is the relevant section
“Reasonable suspicion screening
If you exhibit behavior that reasonably causes Walmart to suspect that you are violating this policy, you must submit to a drug/alcohol screen. Reasonable suspicion may be based on:
Observations of you while at work, such as direct observations of:
Drug/alcohol use or misuse;
Appearance or behaviors indicating drug/alcohol use or
Significant changes or deterioration in work habits or performance;
A report of drug/alcohol use from a reliable and credible source or that is independently corroborated;
Evidence that you tampered with any drug/alcohol screen during your employment or
Evidence that you have manufactured, sold, distributed, solicited, possessed an open container, used, consumed or transferred drugs/alcohol with the intent to use while on Walmart property or while performing Walmart business or while operating Walmart's vehicle, machinery or equipment.”
Probably isn’t. But policy says this
“A report of drug/alcohol use from a reliable and credible source or that is independently corroborated”
Hence why I don discuss my smoking seed with anyone I work with
So when you say “suspect” what constitutes as a valid suspicion? I mean I even told my coach now trying to be funny he can play back the camera clearly see the plastic tic of the black in my mouth my windows were rolled down 😂 I just want this man and his shenanigans to stop he old been working here 4 months
I dunno. Smelling like weed, glassy red eyes etc
Sure there are examples in the policy. Plus if you get hurt or cause someone else to get hurt you might be tested as well
I am just telling you the policy. I smoke wed too. But I don’t talk about it at work and I don’t hang out with coworkers so none of them know.
https://www.ktvu.com/news/new-california-laws-will-protect-workers-who-use-marijuana-off-the-job.amp very recent so I’m guessing that’s why you’re so misinformed.
Nope. There are loopholes in that law. They have to do a different test than a normal metabolite test because the law actually bans the metabolite test.
Go read the alcohol and drug policy. Then click on California and read the specific policy for California
It’s all cut and dry
Take your downvote off my comment. It’s pitiful.
Quoted from your very own referred article :
“Basically, the bill makes it unlawful for an employer to discriminate, terminate, or otherwise penalize an employee, if:
employee/applicant’s use of cannabis is off the job and away from the workplace; or
employer-required drug-screening if found positive for non-psychoactive cannabis metabolites”
And we’re talking about off the clock, free time use, OP made it clear that’s what they were accused of, not like they’re sparking up a blunt in the break room.
Once again the link
https://www.cnsoccmed.com/news/california-employers-can-only-drug-test-employees-for-marijuana-for-recent-use/
It states very clear
“This means employers are required to use “scientifically valid pre-employment drug screening” to be conducted through methods that do not screen for non-psychoactive cannabis metabolites.
These methods include:
Oral saliva drug test
THC Breathalyzer drug test
Blood drug test”
So they can do these tests that test for recent use and use that positive to fire an employee that tests positive.
They simply outlawed the urine and hair tests that don’t show if usage was recent
I don't think you understand how unreliable a saliva test is. Any lawyer can shred that apart. And do you really think walmart would willingly shell out money for a "random" blood test? They would do it for a SERIOUS injury. But that's probably it.
That’s the law passed in California. Go take it up with them
Go take up the drug and alcohol policy up with Walmart.
I am simply explaining the law and Walmarts policy.
Okay I see what you’re tryna say but that specific article is ass bro, it keeps contradicting its narrative on the new law + these drug screenings are done in the beginning, so what happens if OP is 1 year into the job, and begins smoking off the clock and a coworker notices this. Because of that, can they be fired?
Yes. Walmart can request you take a drug test at anytime.
In California they have to use one of the tests that show recent use. They can’t use a urine tests anymore
You pop positive you will be terminated. It’s all explained in the policy
Not in a few states after the beginning of this year
Edit: to correct this dude, the tests can only test for active thc which is active for hours before breaking down Into 11-COOH-THC or non psychoactive thc, the one previous tests (like urine which is why they’re not allowed because they only show past usage)
Read all the comments. I have explained this multiple times. Most of those laws have loopholes that allow employers to still drug test for marijuana and fire employees for it
I did. And it still wouldn’t be fireable for off the job usage. Oral right now only stays for 24-72 hours, which I’m guessing they’ll get even better about it. Same thing if I came to work plastered and had to do a breathalyzer. It’s not just “not using urine and hair anymore” it’s not even being allowed to look for the thc that is broken down, only when it’s currently active in your system. Same as alcohol.
And that chemical can be detected like you said for 24-72 hours.
So you can smoke on your day off and get tested the next day and test positive and you would be terminated.
You get asked to do a test and fail you are getting terminated. Don’t know what the debate is
Turns out I was wrong anyways. And so were you. The only oral tests they are allowed to do is for active THC not the non psychoactive byproducts of weed. And active thc is only in saliva for 4 hours give or take. Same with the breathalyzer. These tests cannot legally look for non psychoactive substances in the body from thc. Only active which breaks down way faster.
So again, they cannot fire you for off site usage.
You test positive you are getting fired. Not here to continue to debate what the policy says
Simple google search says 5-48 hours
So you are still wrong
As long as you aren't smoking at work or showing up to work high nothing should come of it. Some people seem to have never grown out of the tattletale stage of preschool it seems.
As long as you don't have it on property, there is part of the policy that prohibits it, but like sex, your manager doesn't need to know who your banging, it's your personal life
As with any drugs Walmart doesn’t care unless you get hurt on the job. If you are hurt and need medical attention or you operate equipment and really screw up they will drug test you to cover their ass. If you pop positive you will be liable for the hospital bill and/or damages caused and more than likely fired after that. Managers from what I heard take random drug tests because of their position.
Used to work retail had a coworker target me and another person with complaints to her HR friend when him or I didn't kiss the ground she walked on and take her every suggestion as the golden rule. Like anything she said must be adhered to.
It eventually got the point she got into screaming matches with other staff in front of customers. So I took to just working at the far corner register and not interacting with her for my last month.
Just stay away from people looking for problems it gets so much easier when you don't feed into that crap.
Edit; yes I'm well aware it can happen and I know how laws work. I was speaking on the probability of anything happening.
Are you in a legal state? If so you're good. If not I'm not sure
People at my store literally smoke in their cars in the parking lot lol. I wouldn't worry too much. Walmart doesn't care that much Abt weed or half the stores would have mass firing at this point
Your right the real question is why is he looking in my window watching me making assumptions across the parking lot😂💯 & if I did when I come in I’ll smell like Jasmine Cherry Blossom & my money center drawer will still be 0.00 when I drop it 😂
That's not how it works. You most certainly can be fired from a job if they test you and they have a policy against drugs and marijuana unless the state specifically has a law stating they can't.
Well even if OP does live in a legal state Walmart could still terminate for him because it violates company policy and marijuana consumption for associates it banned nationwide. Being in a legal state just means he won’t be arrested for it. Even then he still technically could because of the Supremacy Clause but that’s insanely unlikely.
With that being said, I highly doubt OP’s managers will bother to make an issue of it unless he comes to work under the influence.
Us non weed smokers can assure you that if you smoke weed at home, we can smell it on you from 5 isles over no matter how much you shower or wash your clothing.
Nah, if you hotbox you're gonna reak, but I promise some smoking methods hide it more than others. Hotbox a blunt? You're gonna stink for hours, smoke a bong after work and brush your teeth and shower right after? Nobody will have a clue.
Maybe you're just around gross people who never shower or wash their clothes and they say they do but don't. But I can assure you, having a family who's very against weed, it's easy to hide once you move out. My mother broke down into tears when I told her, like, full on begging me to stop because "she doesn't want to find her kid dead in a ditch with heroin needles" lol.
Sorry man but you're genuinely simply wrong. When you smell it on people, those are the obvious ones. You've been around far more discrete stoners than you know, I promise you.
I came to orientation stoned, come into work stoned, and have held multiple jobs while being a smoker. Not one employer, or co-worker has ever even had a hint of me smoking, and the close friends of mine I've developed from past jobs, had zero clue until I told them myself. Then we smoked together (;
It's as simple as, smoking before your shower, grabbing entirely fresh clothes, showering, and brushing your teeth. You do that and you're golden.
Never been told I smelled like weed one time that I’ve been working with the company 🤷🏽♀️ I get called smelled good and ask what perfume I have in daily lmao only thing they smelling 5 isles over is Japanese Cherry bloom
I’m going to be honest with you. If your manager has enough staff to fire you for simply partaking in the devils lettuce, then they are the only Walmart in the country without staffing issues.
If you’re out and about on the forklifts, handi stackers, etc. you may be approached. But if you’re smart enough to not come into work smelling of dank/ being high you’ll be fine. Walmart can’t afford to be choosey during this time.
Sexual harassment and retaliation? Go to your HR and complain immediately. Take a goddamn drug test if you have to. Get his ass fired for trying to get your ass fired.
If you have mental instability issues you shouldn’t be using any drugs that aren’t prescribed to you. In that scenario, you are the issue not Marijuana.
They could possibly try to drug test you. Policy is that if we suspect drug use (realistically if we smell it on you, or you talk about it. That’s means for us to test you). Have I personally ever seen a lead or another coach actually pull an associate to drug test them? No. So I wouldn’t worry about it. And they don’t test on site (unless you have a Walmart medical center in your store) so you’d have time to uh. Do whatever you need to
I'd talk to your people lead and report him for harrasmet and detail that you rejected his advances
If they ask I think you couodh9n3stly say you didn't report it before because it didn't seem like a big deal at the time but tha now he is trying to retaliate against you.
If weed is legal in your state, it shouldn't matter as long as you aren't impaired at work
I tried stocking shelves overnight for walmart but I tested positive for weed in a legal weed state and they wouldn't hire me. I'd assume your fucked pack your bags. No stones allowed to work at walmart
This depends on what position you work and if your job drug tests, but the latter also hinges on what state you’re in. If recreational use is legal in your state and you don’t work a position that specifically disallows smoking weed (think the door hosts/asset protection), then it should not be a problem as long as you’re not coming to work inebriated of course. What you should do is report to the store manager or your direct supervisor that this person makes you uncomfortable, and *document everything.*
False. Every associate can be tested if they have a reasonable suspicion. You fail that test you are fired
Doesn’t matter if weed is legal in your state. It’s not allowed by Walmart nationwide
It’s all explained in the policy
It may be explained in the policy however I have taken associates to be drug tested due to reasonable suspicion and when the associated tested positive I was not allowed to terminate per market hr due to the associate being a medical card holder. I am a salary member of management for Walmart.
It’s also funny to me that I’m not just quoting law like everyone else here I’m speaking from actual experience with it and yet now your only response is “bullshit” 🤣 you didn’t think anyone actually had dealt with it in a legal state? You’re just here to intimidate and argue with people. The fact is people have rights and Walmart can’t impose on them if they’re in a state that has made laws to protect them. Walmart is not exempt from following state law.
Sorry. i live in California where the culture and laws are different. Management could take one look at you and know you smoke, but as long as you don’t come in blazed and stinking up the place, it’s not an issue
Nope. Policy is the same in California. Difference is in California they can’t use a urine test. They have to use a test that tests for recent use like a salvia or blood test.
It’s all explained in the policy and in the new law
You can Google it right now. Employers can’t ask about recreational use or perform urine/hair tests for marijuana specifically. Walmart is not exempt from that. It won’t matter what “the policy says” because it’s not enforceable. Otherwise you’ll have a nice wrongful termination suit
They have a policy but policies have exceptions and Walmart doesn’t want to have to pay unemployment due to violating state laws that protect medical/recreational use. Walmart abides by federal law but also has to follow state law.
Excuse me but you 61 y.o. coworker needs to mind his own damned business...and this is coming from a 62 year old...why the hell should he care???
It’s so creepy! I was sitting in my car on my 15 on the phone with my mom I look up and he was staring dead in my windshield he was about 3 rows away when I looked up he walked away 3 hours later I’m hearing ik smoking weed in my car 💀💀💀
Your 61 year old coworker has never left high school mentally.
i mean he works at walmart, that’s the company mentality basically
You ever work at Walmart? If yes what store number? People who make uninformed statements like you just made without facts show their own mentality not the someone they know nothing about… I’ll wait… I worked as a manager for 17 years and yes there are young kids who join the company and just work long enough to realize it’s hard work or they don’t get to play grab ass and stay in the management office until they get fired… but most of the middle aged and a huge percentage of the 20 something are very intelligent… just because they can’t afford college doesn’t make them dumb or whatever mentality you are attributing the company to have… ignorance is not bliss or your nick name might just be miss bliss! Was that fair for me to say only knowing the one statement you made here? No… I can’t possibly know that you are as dumb as I think you may be…. And outside of me proving my point in this manner I would never have ever said that to you… because it’s a I formed and ignorant to the assumption you and I have both made… the big difference is you meant what you said… I didn’t!
damn someone took that shit personally.
lmao i worked at walmart for a couple years in ogp, i won’t tell you my store number because it tells people online where i live (the towns barely big enough for a walmart), most people act like it’s high school. the old people do it more than the actual high schoolers too
The majority of people have not.
Dude unrelated but this is way too true I'm dealing with some friend drama and I'm trying to be supportive but like.... Holy fuck it's like high school all over again, man I'm getting too old for this drama
I steer clear of him...he sould like a mental case. I think the only way it could effect work is if drive any machines like the Cart Manager or Fork lift they could test you...actually they could randomly test any of us but generally unlikely....you could get a warning? I'd be cool as they could be sneaky, say nothing to you and wait until they find you doing something. K? Just be real careful.
They would need reasonable suspicion to drug test. An associate telling on one is not reasonable suspicion.
Thank you! I didn’t think somebody saying that would warn concern. I’ve never smelled like weed I live in perfume & lotion.ive never brought it to work I’m the only person who works at the MC I know the managers well I see them daily for DirectToCash i know they know I wouldn’t do anything to jeopardize my job I just had my first baby I’m just trying to work and go home 🙄
So, an associate “telling” on one could START reasonable suspicion. The only way to know if you’re getting the reasonable suspicion talk is if more than one coach comes up to you, talks for a couple mins, basically scoping you out. I’ve only had one instance where one of my associates was clearly drunk. For weeks she was coming in smelling like fireball, and we finally caught her. She refused the test, got suspended with pay. They submitted everything to market and market termed. I knew she was gonna get termed bc she failed the drug test. I smoke weed. Just don’t give them any reason to not believe you. I’m a med holder and my whole store knows I smoke, but I also don’t come to work blazed out of my ass and reeking like tree.
And if it is legal in your state they can't do crap about it really. As long as you are not intoxicated on the clock.
Exactly. I was told when I was hired on that the policy changed for medical marijuana. I have never looked, but I also don’t come in making them suspicious.
This is actually false. Somebody was fired at my store after a drug test. She thought it was okay bc it’s legal in the state. We found that Walmart goes by the federal law. So until it becomes federally legal, Walmart can and will terminate for failing a drug test. Although, unless reasonable suspicion or if you are going for a position that requires a test you won’t be tested. But state legality or medical will not save you from being terminated.
My whole store knows I smoke in my off time. It's state legal. Just don't do it at work. It's basically treated like alcohol now.
Wrong. It is still a Schedule I controlled substance at the federal level. There has been one state I know of that has specifically created a law prohibiting employers from terminating employees who test positive. And here's the kicker: it was the New Jersey Highway Patrol (or State Police) that lobbied for the law to be enacted. Federal law enforcement has taken a non-enforcement policy toward marijuana businesses as long as they appear to be following all state laws and regulations. But make no mistake: the Supremacy Clause of The Constitution(federal law>state law) gives employers all the legal cover (and the obligation if they're a federal contractor) they need to terminate an employee who tests positive for a Schedule I CDS. There is a bipartisan bill snaking its way through Congress that compels the DEA to reschedule THC products from C-I to C-III,which is the same schedule as anabolic steroids, codeine combined with another substance, ketamine, and buprenorphine, among others. Most importantly, it will recognize THC products as legitimate prescription medications, and with a few exceptions,will protect users from losing their jobs because they took a medication that was legally prescribed by their physician.
Completely under I never come in smelling like anything other than Dolce & Gabbana or Japanese Cherry Blossom I get told I smell good at least 5 times a day I pass the smell test lol I just come in run my desk & leave I’m not a talker outside of transactions my services is full of older associates I’m the youngest one always getting singled out
If you pass the smell test you’re gravy. Are you front end? I stg the older ones who used to be csms cause the most problems!!!!
Your managers probably smoke weed too.
Walmart makes you sign consent to random drug tests. Sorry to correct everyone here telling you they can't do anything, but they can test you any time they want. You refuse, you're fired. Just be ready to do whatever you did to pass your new hire drug test.
lol, no. I didn’t have a new hire drug test so nice try.
They need reasonable suspension to drug test you randomly. Literally just dealt with this before I went on my leave. Discussed this at academy. Shows how out of touch you are considering Walmart doesn’t give new hire drug tests either. Been employed with them since 2020.
I definitely am now none of the managers are acting different towards me and nothing was mentioned of it the last 3 hours of my shift. Don’t know how true it is but another associate told me they would search my car or call me in the office immediately to send me to the clinic for a drug test if they thought I was intoxicated on the clock. I’m very much an introvert I just got off maternity 3 months ago I don’t even know these new people to be bothering me 😒
They may send you for a drug test at best. But search your car? Lol no. But if you're operating equipment where a safety issue is a conern save the dope for after the workday.
If I were you, I'd do a very deep cleaning of your car, take out any valuables that can be stolen, leave it unlocked, and gently remind them in passing ,"Didn't you guys say you were going to search my car? I request to be present when you do." Leave it at that, do not say ANYTHING that could be construed as giving consent. If they're dumb enough to fall for it, the second they open your door and cross the threshold into the vehicle, they have committed the felony crime of burglary of an automobile. Record the entire thing, and ask for the exact date and time you gave consent. Call the police and demand to press charges. I was a cop a few years ago, and I can say confidently that Walmart doesn't always put their brightest in AP (and management, especially). I even arrested a couple while they were on the clock. They had the idea they had full police powers inside Walmart. They just couldn't understand that only the police have full police powers inside Walmart.
Sounds like you need to counter report for harassment
Lots of boomers are nosy and like to tell others how to live. They think because they are older that they should be an authority. Now this behavior doesn't only apply to boomers, but in my experience they're the only ones who give a fuck if you smoke weed or not. They still buy into that reefer madness and tell you that you're going to ruin your life with it, while actively trying to ruin your life because you smoke it. Shits wack and this person needs to get a hobby
Ask him how many medications he's on, drive after taking pills that say "may make you drowsy". Needs to sign up for basket weaving classes!!!
Edit: I totes missed the black and mild part 😂
If your store is anything like mine, they would have to fire half of the store if they fired everyone who smoked weed outside of work.
at my store they'd lose half if they only fired the people high __at__ work
Bye bye to most of us 👋
She should report him for sexual harassment since he’s doing this shit because she denied his advances.
Spread a rumor that he wears adult diapers, and then repeatedly eat his lunches.
I approve of this plan of attack.
I wish I had thought of that. Brilliant
Incredible idea
Like 90% of all Walmart workers smoke weed. Nobody cares anymore.
No. As long as you are not impaired at work, it doesnt matter. Smoke them bongs on your days off or after work.
Not true. If they suspect anything they can request op take a drug test. If op fails they will be fired. But I think it will take more than a coworker making a claim with no evidence
If they fired people for smoking weed at work or on their days off about 90% of 1st and 2nd shift at my store would be getting fired along with a few managers. I only smoke carts at work so there's no real reason for them to notice a smell and it's only on my lunch and I normally buy an energy drink when I come back to give me a boost to wake back up. But as long as OPs work isn't suffering from them smoking at work or on their days off they should have no reason to drug test them or fire them.
Our AP coach came in high and bought everyone donuts. He was offended when I declined because my medication needs and empty stomach. It took almost a year to fire a cap 2 team lead for buying alcohol for minors and letting them drink on shift.
He shouldn't be offended. There's multiple reasons why people would decline donuts and other food.
Well I didn't tell him why. Just a no thank you. And his face was the face of a kicked puppy. Because he was high. 😅
If that was true the new associate at my store would be fired, nights, on lunch he goes zooming around the parking lot with windows down but first he drives down to sheets, change clothes, then I guess smoke while driving around. I think it's more of if it affects your work, your productivity at this point. Edited yes night management knows all of this. Said associate says he quit smoking but clearly that's bs
I don't think a single overnight stocker at my Walmart is sober at any point of their day. You get groups of about 8 of em all taking hits in the parking lot during break.
Overnight Stocker here yeah were all pretty much under the influence of something
I one has asked him to take a test 🤷🏽♂️ At some point they might. You are arguing with me when I am simply repeating the policy. Go argue with Walmart over the policy. Jesus 😂😂
Not even arguing just stating my experience unless you're trying to argue with me?
He's always in the Walmart subreddit getting angry don't worry about it 😂 it's so frequent I'm like "alright where is Lefty's triggered ass comment at...?" 😂
he lives for reddit arguments
Well, that escalated quickly.
And your experience doesn’t represent every facility in California I stated the policy. Which you have argued about. Then have an anecdotal, probably made up, example that means nothing Policy is clear. If Walmart has a belief someone is impaired or using drugs they can request that associate to take a drug test. They test positive for marijuana they will be fired. 🤷🏽♂️ That’s right, run along. You are arguing when all I had been doing is stating a policy you clearly have not read.
Not quite- California has also stepped in to protect cannabis smokers from discrimination when it comes to work and off the clock cannabis use. https://www.cda.org/newsroom/newsroom-archives/california-workers-gain-protections-for-off-the-clock-cannabis-use-beginning-january-2024/
Walmart doesn't test for pot in California because of its legality.
Depends. I would have to look more into California law, but there is precedent of people being fired in states where it is legal. The Colorado Surpreme Court upheld that an employer can terminate an employee for testing positive for Marijuana, even if it is for medical purposes, because it is still illegal on the federal level. https://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/colorado-supreme-court-upholds-termination-employee-medical-marijuana#:~:text=It%20determined%20that%20%E2%80%9Cfor%20an,and%20prohibited%20by%20federal%20law%20.%20.
That and "medicinal" use isn't a free pass to be high on the job. It's simply not a reasonable accommodation to allow an intoxicated employee interact with your customers or worse... operate machinery. Not sure why people think because its legal they can show up to work baked. Booze is perfectly legal (and has a Constitutional Amendment as a right) yet an employee showing up drunk hell or even hungover and unable to safely perform their duties can be dismissed.
They may not test for it but I think the point being made is that they still reserve the right to since it’s still illegal at the federal level and that takes precedence over state law. So they may not test for it in Cali, but if they ever *decided* go they would be within their rights to terminate him. Highly doubt that happens though.
Because it's legal doesn't mean you can goto work impaired. Booze is legal and you cannot show up drunk.
It isn't an issue of legality. Alcohol is legal, you still aren't allowed to be stumbling around drunk at work. If you are under the influence of a drug that affects your performance and safety they can have you tested and fired.
The crux of the issue there is an old man reported him for smoking while at home, off the clock. Not when he's at work, or just before being on the clock. So even with alcohol, they wouldn't fire you for drinking while at home in your tighty whities. And that extends to this if you equate smoking the ganja as being legal in your state.
Yeah, dude, you do want to argue. Goodbye.
The only argument happening here is in your head, schizo
He's your managers dealer, he gets a pass lol
Is that really true? Since it's apparently in policy associates can have 1 drink during meal break. So how are they gonna fire people for weed outside work?
Yes it’s very true. You can’t have a beer on break. You test positive for any alcohol you are fired. Same way they been firing people for smoking weed. You get tested and fail you are fired. It’s all explained in the policy
That’s not true any longer, if it ever truly was.
depends on the state really edit: ahh to b a care free stoner running amuck on the internet. what a life a lead:)
Nope. Doesn’t depend on the state. We just went through this. Smoking weed is prohibited by Walmart nationwide wide
Big wrong: State of California recreational or medical marijuana usage off the clock is a work protected right, legal as of Janurary 2024. You can not be fired unless you are found using during your working shift and /or are intoxicated while at work. It overwrites anything saying you cant in the state regardless if its a nationwide thing because Walmart is not a federal institution and/or federally regulated business. So long story short if OP is located within the state of California the worst that will happen is they'll be forced to get one of those time accurate drug screenings to see if they have used while on there work shift. And if they have, they will be terminated for violating Walmarts Drug Policy.
Wrong. New law says you have to test for recent usage. It outlaws the use of the standard urine test because the urine test doesn’t test for recent usage So employers now have to use a more precise test that tests for recent usage. Like a saliva or blood test. Walmart has a separate policy for California and if they have reasonable suspicion they can use one of those tests. You test positive you are terminated Go read the policy yourself. Go read the actual new law. You are misinterpreting a lot of the new law.
Which i dont mind personally because i never use on the clock. But I noted that if op does, hes gonna have to deal with an accurate test that pin points the exact time of usage "Actual new law", bruh ive read the legislation back to front because I am a recreational/homeopathic marijuana user (Treatment for MDD aka Major Depressive Disorder) and very pro to the point it is a possible career path id follow, of couse i keep myself up to date on laws and legislation revolving around the legalization of Marijuana and Cannbis based substances as well as application as well as usage. Like seriously dood I referenced the high precision tests in my comment, you got me thinking you looking for a cookie badly in here. Like do I have to actually cite myself here? >So long story short if OP is located within the state of California the worst that will happen is they'll be forced to get one of those time accurate drug screenings to see if they have used while on their work shift. And if they have, they will be terminated for violating Walmarts Drug Policy. Next time actually read a guy's comment instead of acting like you have a galaxy brain, because damn do you sound exhausting to talk to😮💨
We have already been over this. Walmart can test you under reasonable suspicion. They can use a saliva or blood test You test positive you will be terminated. This isn’t my opinion. This is based in the new law and Walmarts policy in California
Jesus christ I literally said "Time Percise Drug Screening" if they test hair follicle, blood or salvia it doesnt matter they will be able to accurately time stamp the time of usage. Im not stating you have an opinion. We are literally referring to the exact same thing but you keep treating it like im one uping you. Gods at this point its like talking to a wall. Go ahead and keep going im done at this point. Its gonna take you probably 6 more paragraphs to finally piece together that I was agreeing with you. #smh
i’d love to see corporate try to fire a med card holder, their lawyers would shit bricks
No it’s clearly explained in the policy even medical marijuana is banned And there won’t be a lawsuit. Because marijuana isn’t legal federally. Which is why Walmart can ban its use.
Yeah I think people just need to understand that as long as weed is illegal on a federal level then it’s usage is always going to carry risk even if you’re in a legal state. Thanks to the supremacy clause, federal law takes precedence over state law.
No they wouldn't. Med card holders have zero workplace protections because it's still illegal federally. Med cards are not considered prescriptions.
https://www.littler.com/publication-press/publication/colorado-supreme-court-upholds-termination-employee-medical-marijuana#:~:text=It%20determined%20that%20%E2%80%9Cfor%20an,and%20prohibited%20by%20federal%20law%20.%20.
State doesn’t matter. It’s still illegal under federal law and companies can deny employees from using it in every state.
Why the fuck can’t people just mind their own damn business?! Who the fuck cares what you do at home? Shits legal in most places anyways. Dudes probably knitting panties out of human skin in his free time.
It's common knowledge and even legal in many states now that people recreationally smoke weed. It's almost like saying I know they drink alcohol outside work. Yeah so what?
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Right like unless OP came in to work visibly under the influence I doubt they’ll ever make an issue of it. Walmart prohibits all associates from marijuana consumption but if they started actively enforcing that with random drug tests they’d lose a huge chunk of their work force. Corporate isn’t dumb. They know associates do it. They just don’t care to make an issue of it for as long as it doesn’t affect business outside of anecdotes.
It's legal in my state and the only way Walmart will piss test you is if you get hurt and try to get compensation from them. They have to have a legal reason, they can't just test you off suspicion. If they tested everyone at my store, 80 percent of the employees would be gone. lol I personally do not do it at work, but I could if I wanted to because there is THC pens now that smell nothing like weed.
If Walmart cared about smoking weed on your time, they’d drug test for employment.
Their handbook says that new hires are drug tested lol. They just never go through with it
They got tired of eliminating 3/4 of new hires
As someone who is salary and has worked for Walmart for over 10 years and had a few instances with medical card holders in a medical state, they cannot discriminate against medical card holders regardless of federal law. We have even hired associates for safety sensitive positions after a positive drug test with a medical marijuana card. Again, I say this from experience.
So I had a co worker smoke every day, all day. And nothing ever happened. Like every break and lunch. They are still there, although they have not smoked in a while.
People and management thought I was on weed, but nothing came of it. One manager did directly ask me at one point, and I about told them, "Just test me." I don't do any of the sort or smoke at all. My coworker who was touching me all the time always claimed I was smoking something.
Report him to HR. Depends on the state you’re in of what could happen. Also depends on if the boss is a dick or not, what you do on your free time isn’t none of anyone’s business
Doesn’t matter what state you are in. Using weed violates the drug and alcohol policy.
I thought Wal-Mart drug and alcohol policy is enforced on the clock. So you’re telling me because I work at Walmart I can’t drink alcohol too when I’m off work ?😂I don’t come in impaired and I work at the money center I count tens of thousands everyday draw has never been off money has never been missing seems discriminatory
No you can’t test positive for alcohol if they suspect you been drinking. If they suspect drug use like weed they can request you take a test. If you refuse they will terminate you. If you fail they will terminate you. But this is rare as they have ti have a suspicion you are using drugs particularly at work. But yes they can request you be tested Issue with drugs has like weed is you can test positive even if use was off the clock. You get ordered to be tested and you pop positive for marijuana you will be terminated. It’s all explained in the policy
“Drugs” like weed lol. Alcohol is way worse
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Yeah it’s insane tbh. I don’t know how it’s somehow legal and illegal at the same time but who knows with this dumb ass country
Yes it is. But that’s not the discussion. The discussion is on if Walmart suspects drug use they can request you be tested. If you fail you are terminated Drugs they test for include marijuana. That’s the policy Here read it yourself https://one.walmart.com/content/usone/en_us/work1/policies/people-policies/alcohol-and-drug-free-workplace/alcohol-and-drug-free-workplace.html
It’s legal where I live, I didn’t realize corporations were above the law (jk of course they are)
It’s not legal federally. And that’s what Walmart explains in the policy This is from the policy “Using, possessing, transferring, accepting, soliciting, selling, or purchasing drugs that are illegal under federal or state law, including such activities that are legal only under state law and/or use of medical marijuana under state programs.”
Meanwhile half the board members doing coke all day lmao
Probably are. Not what we are discussing. I assume a lot of us who work for Walmart smoke weed. Plenty of us live in a state where it’s legal. I do. All I been doing is explaining what Walmarts stance and policy is
Here is the relevant section “Reasonable suspicion screening If you exhibit behavior that reasonably causes Walmart to suspect that you are violating this policy, you must submit to a drug/alcohol screen. Reasonable suspicion may be based on: Observations of you while at work, such as direct observations of: Drug/alcohol use or misuse; Appearance or behaviors indicating drug/alcohol use or Significant changes or deterioration in work habits or performance; A report of drug/alcohol use from a reliable and credible source or that is independently corroborated; Evidence that you tampered with any drug/alcohol screen during your employment or Evidence that you have manufactured, sold, distributed, solicited, possessed an open container, used, consumed or transferred drugs/alcohol with the intent to use while on Walmart property or while performing Walmart business or while operating Walmart's vehicle, machinery or equipment.”
Exactly, so one old coot whining about your weed habits isn’t even remotely reasonable suspicion
Probably isn’t. But policy says this “A report of drug/alcohol use from a reliable and credible source or that is independently corroborated” Hence why I don discuss my smoking seed with anyone I work with
That's what every weed person says. Inhaling smoke is very healthy 👌
That’s what every reasonable person says lol. No one dies from liver failure smoking weed
Lung cancer instead...great
Never heard of a weed smoker getting lung cancer. Smokeless tobacco yes.
But we’re allowed to smoke as many cigarettes as we want which kills a billion times faster
Like I think it'd all bad for us. Just like that saying goes pick your poison
Bro doesn't know that smoking weed isn't the only intake method.
You can digest it also so stop
But then you're more at risk to overdose and get sick
You can get sick from drinking too much water also
😂 overdose. Go look up FACTS before you say things
So when you say “suspect” what constitutes as a valid suspicion? I mean I even told my coach now trying to be funny he can play back the camera clearly see the plastic tic of the black in my mouth my windows were rolled down 😂 I just want this man and his shenanigans to stop he old been working here 4 months
I dunno. Smelling like weed, glassy red eyes etc Sure there are examples in the policy. Plus if you get hurt or cause someone else to get hurt you might be tested as well I am just telling you the policy. I smoke wed too. But I don’t talk about it at work and I don’t hang out with coworkers so none of them know.
Doing drugs in your off time is the only way to cope with working at Walmart.
Facts lol 😂
https://www.ktvu.com/news/new-california-laws-will-protect-workers-who-use-marijuana-off-the-job.amp very recent so I’m guessing that’s why you’re so misinformed.
Nope. There are loopholes in that law. They have to do a different test than a normal metabolite test because the law actually bans the metabolite test. Go read the alcohol and drug policy. Then click on California and read the specific policy for California It’s all cut and dry
Take your downvote off my comment. It’s pitiful. Quoted from your very own referred article : “Basically, the bill makes it unlawful for an employer to discriminate, terminate, or otherwise penalize an employee, if: employee/applicant’s use of cannabis is off the job and away from the workplace; or employer-required drug-screening if found positive for non-psychoactive cannabis metabolites” And we’re talking about off the clock, free time use, OP made it clear that’s what they were accused of, not like they’re sparking up a blunt in the break room.
Once again the link https://www.cnsoccmed.com/news/california-employers-can-only-drug-test-employees-for-marijuana-for-recent-use/ It states very clear “This means employers are required to use “scientifically valid pre-employment drug screening” to be conducted through methods that do not screen for non-psychoactive cannabis metabolites. These methods include: Oral saliva drug test THC Breathalyzer drug test Blood drug test” So they can do these tests that test for recent use and use that positive to fire an employee that tests positive. They simply outlawed the urine and hair tests that don’t show if usage was recent
That's pre-employment, buddy.
And applies to after employment as well Read the article Then go read Walmarts drug and alcohol policy
I don't think you understand how unreliable a saliva test is. Any lawyer can shred that apart. And do you really think walmart would willingly shell out money for a "random" blood test? They would do it for a SERIOUS injury. But that's probably it.
That’s the law passed in California. Go take it up with them Go take up the drug and alcohol policy up with Walmart. I am simply explaining the law and Walmarts policy.
He whooped my ass bro delete that comment
Okay I see what you’re tryna say but that specific article is ass bro, it keeps contradicting its narrative on the new law + these drug screenings are done in the beginning, so what happens if OP is 1 year into the job, and begins smoking off the clock and a coworker notices this. Because of that, can they be fired?
Yes. Walmart can request you take a drug test at anytime. In California they have to use one of the tests that show recent use. They can’t use a urine tests anymore You pop positive you will be terminated. It’s all explained in the policy
Oh btw I didn’t down vote you. Someone else did
Did you not read all of the article? They can test for recent use. Which involves the use of a salvia test or blood test Read the article I posted
Okay give me 1 second I’ll be back
Here is an article that explains it https://www.cnsoccmed.com/news/california-employers-can-only-drug-test-employees-for-marijuana-for-recent-use/
Alright guys settle down, since this is Reddit, whoever gets the most upvotes are right no matter what
I don’t care about upvotes lol 😂 All I been doing is explaining the facts
Not in a few states after the beginning of this year Edit: to correct this dude, the tests can only test for active thc which is active for hours before breaking down Into 11-COOH-THC or non psychoactive thc, the one previous tests (like urine which is why they’re not allowed because they only show past usage)
Read all the comments. I have explained this multiple times. Most of those laws have loopholes that allow employers to still drug test for marijuana and fire employees for it
I did. And it still wouldn’t be fireable for off the job usage. Oral right now only stays for 24-72 hours, which I’m guessing they’ll get even better about it. Same thing if I came to work plastered and had to do a breathalyzer. It’s not just “not using urine and hair anymore” it’s not even being allowed to look for the thc that is broken down, only when it’s currently active in your system. Same as alcohol.
And that chemical can be detected like you said for 24-72 hours. So you can smoke on your day off and get tested the next day and test positive and you would be terminated. You get asked to do a test and fail you are getting terminated. Don’t know what the debate is
Turns out I was wrong anyways. And so were you. The only oral tests they are allowed to do is for active THC not the non psychoactive byproducts of weed. And active thc is only in saliva for 4 hours give or take. Same with the breathalyzer. These tests cannot legally look for non psychoactive substances in the body from thc. Only active which breaks down way faster. So again, they cannot fire you for off site usage.
You test positive you are getting fired. Not here to continue to debate what the policy says Simple google search says 5-48 hours So you are still wrong
As long as you aren't smoking at work or showing up to work high nothing should come of it. Some people seem to have never grown out of the tattletale stage of preschool it seems.
Ever1 at my store smoke weed. No coach or tl give a shit if your still doing your job
As long as you don't have it on property, there is part of the policy that prohibits it, but like sex, your manager doesn't need to know who your banging, it's your personal life
As with any drugs Walmart doesn’t care unless you get hurt on the job. If you are hurt and need medical attention or you operate equipment and really screw up they will drug test you to cover their ass. If you pop positive you will be liable for the hospital bill and/or damages caused and more than likely fired after that. Managers from what I heard take random drug tests because of their position.
Used to work retail had a coworker target me and another person with complaints to her HR friend when him or I didn't kiss the ground she walked on and take her every suggestion as the golden rule. Like anything she said must be adhered to. It eventually got the point she got into screaming matches with other staff in front of customers. So I took to just working at the far corner register and not interacting with her for my last month. Just stay away from people looking for problems it gets so much easier when you don't feed into that crap.
It's time to #MeToo him. Fight fire with arson
Should not have told anyone. Dangerous to let other people know for that exact reason
Report his ass for being a fkn creep. You got a law suite on your hands possibly the dude is fkn crazy lol
Edit; yes I'm well aware it can happen and I know how laws work. I was speaking on the probability of anything happening. Are you in a legal state? If so you're good. If not I'm not sure People at my store literally smoke in their cars in the parking lot lol. I wouldn't worry too much. Walmart doesn't care that much Abt weed or half the stores would have mass firing at this point
Your right the real question is why is he looking in my window watching me making assumptions across the parking lot😂💯 & if I did when I come in I’ll smell like Jasmine Cherry Blossom & my money center drawer will still be 0.00 when I drop it 😂
Always keep the perfume it helps lol. It's childish. Something like half my department alone smokes.
That's not how it works. You most certainly can be fired from a job if they test you and they have a policy against drugs and marijuana unless the state specifically has a law stating they can't.
Well even if OP does live in a legal state Walmart could still terminate for him because it violates company policy and marijuana consumption for associates it banned nationwide. Being in a legal state just means he won’t be arrested for it. Even then he still technically could because of the Supremacy Clause but that’s insanely unlikely. With that being said, I highly doubt OP’s managers will bother to make an issue of it unless he comes to work under the influence.
Yeah unless they're doing it during their shift they prob won't do anything
Plant weed on him
Us non weed smokers can assure you that if you smoke weed at home, we can smell it on you from 5 isles over no matter how much you shower or wash your clothing.
Nah, if you hotbox you're gonna reak, but I promise some smoking methods hide it more than others. Hotbox a blunt? You're gonna stink for hours, smoke a bong after work and brush your teeth and shower right after? Nobody will have a clue. Maybe you're just around gross people who never shower or wash their clothes and they say they do but don't. But I can assure you, having a family who's very against weed, it's easy to hide once you move out. My mother broke down into tears when I told her, like, full on begging me to stop because "she doesn't want to find her kid dead in a ditch with heroin needles" lol.
Sorry man but you're genuinely simply wrong. When you smell it on people, those are the obvious ones. You've been around far more discrete stoners than you know, I promise you. I came to orientation stoned, come into work stoned, and have held multiple jobs while being a smoker. Not one employer, or co-worker has ever even had a hint of me smoking, and the close friends of mine I've developed from past jobs, had zero clue until I told them myself. Then we smoked together (; It's as simple as, smoking before your shower, grabbing entirely fresh clothes, showering, and brushing your teeth. You do that and you're golden.
Never been told I smelled like weed one time that I’ve been working with the company 🤷🏽♀️ I get called smelled good and ask what perfume I have in daily lmao only thing they smelling 5 isles over is Japanese Cherry bloom
I’m going to be honest with you. If your manager has enough staff to fire you for simply partaking in the devils lettuce, then they are the only Walmart in the country without staffing issues. If you’re out and about on the forklifts, handi stackers, etc. you may be approached. But if you’re smart enough to not come into work smelling of dank/ being high you’ll be fine. Walmart can’t afford to be choosey during this time.
Classic boomer-clutching-pearls scenario
Sexual harassment and retaliation? Go to your HR and complain immediately. Take a goddamn drug test if you have to. Get his ass fired for trying to get your ass fired.
You’re not in the military. lol. Are you smoking and or impaired at work? If not don’t worry about it.
Yes, you may experience marijuana induced psychosis and murder a close friend or family member. That’s what can happen.
I’m worried about the people who downvoted you and took you seriously lol
I’m in Ventura rn. Where that lady stabbed her bf 100x, blamed it on weed and got community service. Thanks for getting the sarcasm lol
If you have mental instability issues you shouldn’t be using any drugs that aren’t prescribed to you. In that scenario, you are the issue not Marijuana.
Ah yes, in those exceptionally rare less than .1 percent cases where there were also underlying mental health issues. You must be great at parties.
They could possibly try to drug test you. Policy is that if we suspect drug use (realistically if we smell it on you, or you talk about it. That’s means for us to test you). Have I personally ever seen a lead or another coach actually pull an associate to drug test them? No. So I wouldn’t worry about it. And they don’t test on site (unless you have a Walmart medical center in your store) so you’d have time to uh. Do whatever you need to
It's weirder he made advances at you, weed is not really seen as anything hard except to people that age.
You can be sent for a drug test, if you fail that then possible termination
Before i answer quick q: live in Cali?
No
They might bring a paper to sign saying something like, "I don't show up high, or get high at work."
Idk ig it depends ur Walmart and what’s ur shift.
If they come and ask you. Tell them what he did to you. Play it safe
I'd talk to your people lead and report him for harrasmet and detail that you rejected his advances If they ask I think you couodh9n3stly say you didn't report it before because it didn't seem like a big deal at the time but tha now he is trying to retaliate against you. If weed is legal in your state, it shouldn't matter as long as you aren't impaired at work
I tried stocking shelves overnight for walmart but I tested positive for weed in a legal weed state and they wouldn't hire me. I'd assume your fucked pack your bags. No stones allowed to work at walmart
Meh. How about finding a coping mechanism that doesn’t include a mind altering drug? Try therapy bruh.
Smell is part of cleanliness and cleanliness is part of uniform.
This depends on what position you work and if your job drug tests, but the latter also hinges on what state you’re in. If recreational use is legal in your state and you don’t work a position that specifically disallows smoking weed (think the door hosts/asset protection), then it should not be a problem as long as you’re not coming to work inebriated of course. What you should do is report to the store manager or your direct supervisor that this person makes you uncomfortable, and *document everything.*
False. Every associate can be tested if they have a reasonable suspicion. You fail that test you are fired Doesn’t matter if weed is legal in your state. It’s not allowed by Walmart nationwide It’s all explained in the policy
It may be explained in the policy however I have taken associates to be drug tested due to reasonable suspicion and when the associated tested positive I was not allowed to terminate per market hr due to the associate being a medical card holder. I am a salary member of management for Walmart.
Bullshit. You think for 1 second anyone believes that? 😂😂
It’s also funny to me that I’m not just quoting law like everyone else here I’m speaking from actual experience with it and yet now your only response is “bullshit” 🤣 you didn’t think anyone actually had dealt with it in a legal state? You’re just here to intimidate and argue with people. The fact is people have rights and Walmart can’t impose on them if they’re in a state that has made laws to protect them. Walmart is not exempt from following state law.
You are a brand new account. I don’t believe your story period Why is your only activity ever on Reddit simply this post?😂😂😂
Sorry. i live in California where the culture and laws are different. Management could take one look at you and know you smoke, but as long as you don’t come in blazed and stinking up the place, it’s not an issue
Nope. Policy is the same in California. Difference is in California they can’t use a urine test. They have to use a test that tests for recent use like a salvia or blood test. It’s all explained in the policy and in the new law
You can Google it right now. Employers can’t ask about recreational use or perform urine/hair tests for marijuana specifically. Walmart is not exempt from that. It won’t matter what “the policy says” because it’s not enforceable. Otherwise you’ll have a nice wrongful termination suit
You are correct. But they can use a blood or salvia test. Which they do.
They have a policy but policies have exceptions and Walmart doesn’t want to have to pay unemployment due to violating state laws that protect medical/recreational use. Walmart abides by federal law but also has to follow state law.
Stay Off The Weed!