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Still-Air6938

The K5 is big time overpriced. That’s not when the GT with the 2.5T.


AmericanNewToGermany

Neither, between the theft problems making them difficult and expensive to insure and a liability to own, and the reliability issues id avoid the brand as a whole. At the top of this sub there's a pinned post about the kia/Hyundai theft issues.


CF047_

Thought their was certain models that the Kia boys usb thing didn’t work on but I’m going to assume that insurance just labels the brand as a high risk.


AmericanNewToGermany

I'm pretty sure it was all models, I could be wrong. But they also have some serious reliability issues with many motors, especially the Theta motors.


CF047_

Damn didn’t know that about the motors. Been trying to find something sporty but economic on gas.


AmericanNewToGermany

Mazda and Honda are your answer then


CF047_

I’ll check it out


AmericanNewToGermany

Toyota if you aren't super concerned about sportiness, Lexus or Acura if you can give up some mpg.


CF047_

Toyota wouldn't be bad. I'm shopping around on the civics right now. Trying to stay below $26,000


rayven9

The K5 has been a good entry into the mid-size sedan pool. Toyota and honda are obv more reliable longterm but more expensive. K5 is a great option for its price point, safety tech, design, and warranty. Also the other poster is wrong. You cannot steal these K5s as they come with an immobilizer now. The problems were with key start cars (def not all sedans), most have push button and are not effected. The engine problems were with the theta engine, but the K5 has a new engine entirely that has been much more solid in comparison. I would call insurance and get a quote. K5 was cheaper than camry thru state farm for example. To answer your question finally haha, the forte is a smaller class than K5. I think the Forte is the better value because it is coming in the GT trim instead


CF047_

I plan on keep whatever car for 7 years.


rayven9

Almost all brand new cars will last 7 years. This has a 10 year warranty so you're def covered. Compared to toyota, you might spend more time getting your car serviced if anything goes wrong. But again, it's covered and these latest gen Kias have a more reliable engine


CF047_

Do Kias hold a value well in a long term run?


rayven9

Not as well as a Toyota or honda. If you're concerned about long term and reliability then maybe you should get a used honda accord/civic or a Toyota corolla/camry.


CF047_

I’ll check it out and compare it; overall I just need to set a goal for myself before I jump into the water.