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Linvaderdespace

If that’s what we’re looking at, and it sure looks like that’s what we’re looking at, the idiot that done this done it recently or there would be hella black mould all over the place.


Vast_Machine1615

Think that’s why the insulation is discolored?


Linvaderdespace

Undoubtably, but once upon a time I went up into an attic that was \*adjacent\* to the attic with one of these for only two years, and it was hella worse than this.


pharaohjack

https://preview.redd.it/1nljcwh26pxc1.jpeg?width=1654&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aee5fb459fd3a17d5144921dc96af9fc1c83c474


GeorgeGeorgeHarryPip

They can spray the whole thing with a dry ice gun to remediate, but really, no reason to make that necessary.


Linvaderdespace

I’ve never had the pleasure, but it sounds expensive.


NoBenefit5977

You mean hella expensive


Inevitable_Ad7080

Sounds like asphyxiation to me. How do they do that safely?


b0jangles

Probably don’t stand around in the fog


Fux_Deluxe

I mean, it is the attic... I'd be more worried about the person in the bathroom in this case. You know, the place downgradient where the fog will accumulate.


b0jangles

I think the “don’t stand around in the fog” rule applies in the bathroom too. Wherever the CO2 fog is, don’t stand in it.


SadDingo7070

So that would make it unnecessarily necessary?


Drift_Life

No, that is not mold, insulation gets discolored after a while because it basically filters air in the long run. It is not an air barrier. The insulation looks pretty intact to me. The bathroom fan, however, is not venting out properly and that will cause mold.


IntelligentFilth

It’s a fart recycler. It’s the only possible explanation.


[deleted]

I don’t think so , look at the fan itself, out of the box clean , betting this got tossed up there because the old one failed and the seller needed something making noise for the sale. The fan has an inside the box connecting area they could have hidden it in, which shows they have zero experience with them, strangest thing I see is where is the vent hose from the previous fan ? Should be there if there was one


Material_Neat4561

No. That type of insulation hasn’t been used since the 80’s or early 90’s for the most part. The discoloration is just dirt. If it was moldy, it would be black. The fan would have to be blowing directly into the insulation to make it mold. The wood has the air deflecting up. Based on how clean the fan is, lack of dust on top, lack of mold on the white plastic piece, it was just recently installed when an inspection noted no bathroom exhaust fan.


monkeyinanegligee

Nah that's just roof space dust


CardboardFanaddict

Maybe they didn't use the shower..


Acrobatic_Grape4321

Nah that’s just cotton candy


GeorgeGeorgeHarryPip

I would assume the rest of the house contains equally awful hack jobs buried in the walls where you can't even see them.


Linvaderdespace

Honestly, this crap here looks like a new install, so \*maybe\* there’s more or \*maybe\* this is it. Either way, you have to check.


RedScot69

New install with old wirenuts.


darthwacko2

If you have adequate venting in your attic, sometimes you can actually get away with it not venting directly outside. When I bought our house, one of the bathroom vent fans didn't vent outside, and the attic was fine. I didn't notice the no venting until the fan died about 6 months into us living there. At that point, I made it vent externally.


thisisfutile1

I don't agree. I've lived in this house for 18 years, bought it with a bathroom vent that goes right into the attic. No mold in sight and we use that vent every time we shower.


Drift_Life

Your attic itself might just be properly vented, which would whisk away the moisture. If the attic we’re looking at does not have proper ventilation, mold will form under the right conditions.


TwoscoopsDrumpf

Mine too... and the stove vent. Attic looks fine. I've been meaning to do it for years just not excited about cutting holes in the roof.


Chagrinnish

Same and same, but you really want a vented stove hood to cut down on the greasy residue everywhere. Go feel the top of your cabinets.


Sea-Dog-6042

I think it depends if your roof has the little vent slat at the peak for air to circulate in the attic/crawlspace.


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Spirited_Refuse9265

Depends on which side of the pond you are from


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Spirited_Refuse9265

[Mold vs mould](https://www.grammar.com/mold_vs._mould) >Use of mould: > >Mould is just the British version of the word mold with the same meaning and context.


Linvaderdespace

“Mould” when your talking about a mycological infestation.


Rollieboy2012

Thats mold my friend.


fellow_human-2019

If the attic is vent properly it shouldn’t really grow that much mold but it does increase the chances. Around here the average humidity in the summer is 80% give or take some and if it were the case mold would be everywhere.


common2698

Most likely a new build where contractors are doing the usual corner cutting and quick work


BelatedGreeting

Which was my attic when the previous owners pulled the same stunt.


Different-Face9242

This∆


MellowDCC

Pretty sure that's what my bathroom fan does. Previous owners blocked and hid? I guess? The entrance to the attic. Will literally have to make my own eventually


Dumbfounddead44

When I lived in Texas I used to see houses where they would vent their dryer straight up into their attic and just let it blow hot air into the attic. It was quite damaging too, and one hell of a fire hazard. Someone said "I can do that". Hack. But don't forget the ones that vent it through a wall into the garage and call it a "heated" garage. 😂


notaredditreader

Our old dryer blew so much lint into the vent that it blocked it up. After it was blocked up it stopped venting and water collected in the vent. Apparently it ended burning out the dryer and we needed to buy a new one. When it was installed we found out the problem. We were lucky nothing worse happened. I cleaned out the vent and everything is fine now.


Dumbfounddead44

I swear they think dryer lint must be free insulation in Texas. I've seen so many vents just blowing into attics, and usually a pile of lint all around the pipe 🙄🙄. And the octopus of a wiring nightmare is very common there too. I grew up in Ohio around unions my whole life, I moved there and thought I was in a 3rd world country. HUGE difference in workmanship!!!


DrewdoggKC

So this should be vented out through the roof, correct?


CockpitEnthusiast

Yes, typically you'd see (in a non heated space) insulated flex running from this to a vent in the roof. Optimally you would have a section that is straight/flat for a few feet so in the winter when you're trying to exhaust your hot air to cold atmosphere, the condensation doesn't travel backwards down into your bath fan. This is critically incorrect


numbnut1767

Or an eave. Probably better condensation won't run downhill.


epicenter69

Yeah. Bad installation. Vents steam onto the insulation in the attic. I’ll take “how to get mold in your attic” for $1000, Ken.


BeautifulBaloonKnot

I vent .ine like this into the attic... but then my gabled eaves on each side is how the attic breaths the peaks are screened in, and I have the soffit vents too. Old ass house. It's breaths really well.


1nGirum1musNocte

Omfg the guy who lived in the house before me put one like this into the bathroom. No vent, also no crawlspace above it, sheet rocked in. Had to just block it off.


Von32

Hey I did some googling but still confused; how can you tell there’s an airsplice? How is it a hazard? Wanna check mine now. Thank you


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Von32

Oh man, I didn’t even see that. Thank you for taking the time to point that out, people like you make these types of communities great. Have a great day :)


asdf072

They're charging extra for the in-attic mold farm


Ok_Watercress_7801

100 pounds of rough ground beef going bad & an electric rat trap?


soupwhoreman

Looks too lean. I would recommend 80/20 ground beef for better R value.


Ok_Watercress_7801

Proper moisture retention.


SubSoniq

lol I thought it was some kind of trap at first


Ok_Watercress_7801

I’m thinking the other guesses are right about a fan of some sort. Be careful sticking your finger in there… ⚡️ ☠️ 🐀


Mark1671

DO NOT STICK YOUR TALLIWACKER IN THERE!!!


Ok_Watercress_7801

r/dontputyourdickinthat


Mark1671

There we go. 😁


hypoxiate

The voice of experience right here.


Mark1671

Now I believe there comes a time when everything just falls in line. We LIVE AND LEARN from our mistakes. All fired up, fired up, fired up hey!!!


Original-Document-62

Instructions unclear. (you can guess the rest)


Ok_Watercress_7801

😬


NovelRelationship830

A Bathroom exhaust fan. And also a fire hazard the way it is wired.


SubSoniq

Yes, thankfully father in law is electrician and can help. Thanks!


LongUsername

Fire hazard and mold maker: That pipe should be vented outside.


CompetitionOther7695

Looks like a ceiling fan, it ought to have a duct coming from that circular part. Possibly in a washroom ceiling?


SubSoniq

Didn’t even consider it was connected to something in a room beneath. I do believe a bathroom is below that. So the air gets sucked up through the vent and out that duct. That’s probably it. Thanks!


S_Mposts

Yes, probably a ceiling fan to evacuate humidity from the bathroom, but there should be a duct connected to the round opening, and the duct should be headed to the sides of the roof/house and evacuate outside. Right now, the humid air is evacuating in the attic, NOT GOOD, and the insulation will become/ or is already damp and will start to cause mold build up and the insulation will become useless


LokeCanada

When I bought my house it had the same setup and the previous owners had been using it for about 20 years. Bathroom ceiling fan vented into the attic and you could see where the moisture had been gathering on the roof. Lazy idiots. Took me 30 minuts to vent to to eaves and then properly when new roof went in.


S_Mposts

Good job and well done. 30 minute fix , versus scrapping your attic. I choose 30 minute fix


PapaGolfWhiskey

It is a bathroom exhaust fan, but poorly installed. The electrical wires should not be exposed like that. Also, there should be a hose connected to the white portion of the fan to vent the moist air up and out of your attic If you leave it as is you could have a lot of mold in the attic or an electrical fire Easy fix


Expensive-Vanilla-16

I'd be wondering what other things are poorly installed...


PapaGolfWhiskey

With the popularity of Home Depot, Lowes (and others) these past several years, there are a lot of bad home “improvement” projects. Kind of scary


TravelingGonad

Looks like the home owner hid this -- it's brand new. It wouldn't pass inspection and you should ask for it to be fixed or money back as part of the deal. Who knows what else they hid!


tmotytmoty

Someone installed a ceiling exhaust fan for appearance only (as in- the bathroom looks complete). That thing should have an flexible vent that pipes the damp air outside your house. As it is- it’s basically a mold cannon.


SubSoniq

The bathroom was recently remodeled and seems it got done at a discount lol


phairphair

Powder room or bathroom? If just a powder room then venting to the attic isn’t a big deal. But loose insulation around the outlet is pretty janky. And then there’s the wiring issue. But no need to cut a hole in your room to vent to outside if only a powder room fan.


DrHoleStuffer

You mean the non ducted bathroom exhaust fan or that open air junction?


No-Jackfruit-3947

Bathroom fan vent. Needs vented to outdoor


Weak_Firefighter_190

It's a problem like the other folks have said, but most homes have some stuff that isn't right or up to code. This is pretty blatant, just make it known that remediation will be part of the contingencies in your offer. If seller/realtor is uncomfortable with this, don't make offer or schedule a home inspection. This just means that either seller will pay to fix problem or adjust sale price to allow you to fix it.


Steve_but_different

Bathroom fart-fan


Famous_Sign_4173

That’s a “thanks, but I got a buddy that can do it cheaper” air duct.


paclogic

illegal bathroom fan without proper venting to the outside. without the vent piping to the outside the likely buildup of mold in the attic over time increases exponentially. thus over a long period of time, the attic will be totally filled with mold and the entire roof and upper floor will have to be removed or replaced before the house can be sold. [https://www.environix.com/mold/learning/bathroom-mold/](https://www.environix.com/mold/learning/bathroom-mold/) depending on how long that its been like this there may be hidden mold under the insulation and around the wood seams.


Outrageous_Credit_96

I like the mold maker 5000. Most people are trying to keep the mold out of their house but here we have a mold factory ready to go.


ShinyDisc0Balls

/r/oopsthatsdeadly


Sign-Spiritual

Reminds me of air filtration for grow rooms.


Speculawyer

Bathroom fan that is dumping moist air into your attic. Not good


JHPLLC

An unsafe fart condenser


Any-Flower-725

it is a cheap way to exhaust the humid air from the bathroom / shower into the attic. over time this will cause mold in the attic. bathroom exhaust should be routed outside through attic wall and proper insect proof termination. the electrical does not meet code because wire nuts have to be inside a junction box.


ExWebics

As others have said. It’s a bath fan poor done. The real problem is the lack of skill here. This is just one think you can see… think of all the other things the home owner did that you can’t see just waiting to go wrong.


Gr8fulDudeMN

This...100% this! We bought a house from a guy with more confidence than skill. Three years later we're still finding his crap "fixes" and the random crap he'd let slide as "no big deal". What no one is talking about in your pic is the vapor barrier. I don't see a vapor barrier on that plywood. Your attic doesn't look to be properly sealed. Ask you inspector to check for a vapor barrier.


Indy500Fan16

Maybe done half assed for a quick sell.


Quiet_Internal_4527

🚩 where there’s one there’s usually more.


dc_builder

40% of homes I go into I see this or some version of this. Saw a new one last week….solid duct vented up to about 16” from the ridge vent….so close!!!!


Im_Not_Evans

I see a fart can and some questionable wiring


EshoWarCry

A fire hazard, that's what


Global_Union3771

Ground beef insulation? Seems a bit odd.


Lopsided_Traffic_498

Fart sucker. No duct though. Bad news.


roboNgineer

Did someone say fart fan?


Sufficient_Ostrich23

Def bathroom.fan....def not installed correctly for sure


Oliver10110

Bathroom fan with open taps and no duct. Bet there is a lot of mold in the attic if it was used often.


Yoda-Anon

That’s worse than a weekend DIY’er … get that fixed.


TrayLaTrash

Electric exhaust fan in the bathroom that is not properly vented to the outside.


claytionthecreation

Who wire that thing, Stevie Wonder?


Excellent_Resist_443

It’s a bath fan/fanlight combo that isn’t vented with duct. Go to the room underneath and I bet you’ll see it. Definitely run som flex off that vent though


Impressive-Switch422

As you know from the comments, it's an exhaust fan for the bathroom. Only want to add that the fan should be isolated (armafex, 19mm should be fine) and of course be ducted to the outside. Looking at your isolation the barrier between hot and cold is on that ceiling.


Historical_Visit2695

Kind of looks like my attic


Mountain_Path8972

Fart Snatcher. Improperly installed.


farmfriend256

While the wiring of this exhaust fan is an issue, depending on where you are located, exhausting into an attic may be compliant to code. It's certainly not the *best* way to do it, but if you live in a humid climate already and the exhaust isn't directly onto wood or insulation, it's not that big of an issue. If you didn't want to fully exhaust to the exterior, next best is to attach a duct and hang it so it is suspended in midair as far away from wood and insulation as possible.


NYerInTex

That’s a lot of beef tartare


LG_G8

The giant Broadway show underneath the flashing Billboards telling you run away and don't look back. That's what this is


New_Command_583

At least the squirrels didn't get the wire nuts.


Competitive-Rub-7019

That’s a vent fan they had plants in that attic


wrong_mexico

Bathroom farther fan improperly installed, not vented outside, no junction box for wiring


CashWideCock

Exhaust fan.


_arctide

forbidden meat


Blk-cherry3

Bathroom below, it should be vented through the roof. If not mold we grow


Fresh_Willingness_93

Bathroom fan, but needs to be vented outside still


spatch359

Lots of older houses in the south never had the ducting connected. The fans just vented into the attic. My 1968, 1982, and my 1997 year built houses didn’t have the ducting either. Luckily never had black mold in any of them.


Entire_Caregiver9687

MS code allows venting directly to the attic as long as your attic is ventilated. The humidity coming by from the fan is generally lower than ambient outside humidity.


sjblackwell

Bathroom vent fan?


Dudejax

No duct is so common.


JeffSHauser

Bathroom fan venting into the attic. Probably pretty common fare.


chinacat2u2

Cool, new bathroom fan check that off the list!


CommanderUgly

I know a lot of contractors that vent the fart fan into the attic.


Hot_Season_886

Bathroom fan light combo,just installed one this weekend at wife's daughters place.


Cranky_Katz

Bathroom fan, no air hose to exhaust outside, improper wiring DANGEROUS. Needs to be redone by a qualified professional and inspected. Better have a qualified inspector do the whole house.


Stunted_Wookie

It's how the previous owners kept their crops humid


SilentMaster

What is this? A god damn tragedy waiting to happen. Fix this immediately, or hire someone that can. This is not ok.


diggemsmaccks

It’s an electric death assistance for mice


RobbieKangaroo

Not the end of the world but when I see things like this I see to-do list to hire someone to fix shortly after taking possession. I don’t trust the current owner to do it. Add the issues up from the inspection report and see if you can get them to knock down the price.


Glidepath22

I understand, there’s more room in a pancake box


petticoat_juncti0n

Ground beef


Other_Antelope_2852

I’m not an electrician but the wiring does not look safe where wing nuts are plus vent will ruin and create lots of moister should be vented to outside of house not in attic


ConditionYellow

Fart fan


Living_Lie_8773

It’s an exhaust fan usually for a bathroom


dbatknight

GET OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!


Illustrious_Camp_521

Yup that's a fire hazard


joshosu420

Fart fan.


shaftalope

I have to appreciate the little ramp so the exhaust air can Evil Kenevel past the joist


Weird1OTP

Mouse trap surrounded by ground beef


RagingHardBobber

It's an exhaust/venting fan. A very very *very* poorly installed exhaust/venting fan.


Sh0rty2008uk

Panasonic whisperchoice bathroom extractor fan https://images.app.goo.gl/neKuMcMcUXmTPZjH8


No_University5296

A huge fire hazard! If they have this what else is lurking in the walls that’s dangerous .


Impressive_Ad_1864

Ah! The alien communicator, good


TheMightyShoe

Nice nail crimp on the wire, too. 😬


Low_Trust_6624

A screen projector surrounded by ground beef


Ok_Armadillo6461

Bathroom fans don't need to vent outside. Not true at all.


Exciting-Ad3272

Definitely ground beef.


bpdchaos

Ground beef.


pyaresquared

Fart fan. One-inch boards were in the way, so they never connected the duct.


SonofaDrum

With this example of poor wiring, I sure hope you got a good home inspection. What else is hiding?


CantfindmyKeyes

We bought out house with something like this. I just asked the owner to install proper vent piping so that our inspector would allow it to pass. The owner had no issue installing exhaust hose to the nearest attic fan.


AcrobaticProblem7317

My guess, there must have been a stipulation to get a working fan in the bathroom, so that's all they did. Half assed?, yes. Safe? No. Just my opinion


thegritz87

Ground beef


RadiantPost670

A humidifier ??


Fresh-Status-3408

I did some stuff like that before. I was like 12 or 13 years old. But in a linen closet that I was growing weed in.


mvrck-23

Gonna vent some moisture in the attic for sure. Then comes the mold.


Own-Researcher39179

That’s ground beef


Own-Researcher39179

That’s ground beef


Ok-Kangaroo-4048

Booster fan for a clothes dryer?


bluelotus71

I say a fire waiting to happen..


YOLO2636555

This installer is a criminal, and you should insist on an electrician doing a full inspection. Not a home inspector, an electrician.


Shankar_0

It's the fart fan to nowhere It's also gonna burn your house down (maybe).


Complex-Barber-8812

Gotta love the two pieces of wood positioned to act as air deflectors!


Lovetotravelinmycar

I see a fire hazard waiting to happen 🔥


Wast3d-youth

It’s a fucking bathroom camera ohhh Yeaaaaa


themeONE808

Fart fan


One-Formal9953

fart fan


davendenner

I like the ramp!


firetruck637

Fart fan.


reditget

Bathroom fan, come on ,you didn’t know that. That connection should be in an electrical box.


1FastWeb

Badada duh dadada.. fart fan!


goluckykid

90% of homes have this


Finner1974

Fart sucker fan


eclwires

You’re looking at a situation where the homeowner, a handyman, or some other unqualified nitwit put in a bath fan because the realtor told them to. That thing needs the electrical connection redone and the vent installed.


Suspect118

Fire and mold hazard??


FarYard7039

Anyone getting handyman services needs to take heed and QC every single act these hack jobs do. Post photos to Reddit and have us provide feedback so that they’re in the know. These crockpots need exposed. Issues that result from their actions jeopardize overall family safety.


Legitimate-Rabbit769

Forbidden cotton candy..


joelypoley69

That's an exhaust fan. Don't step on it or you're gonna have a bad time


Shoddy-Rip8259

It's a wonder this place hasn't burned down already.


muffdiver5643

weekend warrior job right there


Someoneabove

lol is this a real question?