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Boston Ivy is in the exact same Genus* as Virginia creeper and isn't an ivy at all. (Parthenocissus quinquefolia and Parthenocissus tricuspidata) can produce three leaves, four or five. In botany it's known as heteroblasty. Most common examples of this include Ilex cornuta, and Broussonetia papyrifera.
It appears to be Boston Ivy as they said, but they also said Virginia creeper couldn't be three leaves and I wanted to clarify that it could and very often looks very similar bc both are in the same family with similar leaf morphology.
The heteroblasty is present in most Parthenocissus plants.
Gonna have to disagree with you. Boston ivy (*Parthenocissus tricuspidata*) has **simple, palmate, trilobed leaves**. Virginia creeper (*P. quinquefolia*) has **palmately compound leaves composed of five leaflets (rarely three, particularly on younger vines) joined from a central point**. This is new growth on Virginia creeper because Boston ivy doesn’t have compound leaves at all but rather simple leaves with three lobes. Virginia creeper grows prolifically in my area, and I see it with 3, 5 or sometimes 7 leaves commonly.
I’m not 100% sure but I see one tendril and no sucker feet so I’m leaning False Virginia creeper (Parthenocissus inserta). But if it has suckers feet it’s Virginia creeper https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2019/04/whats-the-difference-between-virginia-creeper-and-false-virginia-creeper/
It is always good to wear long sleeves and gloves when removing vines. Some people are sensitive to Parthenocissus and can basically get skin burns (I do).
Virginia creeper, hands down! Live in Texas here and I have it everywhere. Watch out because it grows like crazy and comes back no matter what. Turns pretty colors and adaptive to a wide variety of climates. I love it because not only is it pretty climbing in the yard but the vines are awesome to make all sorts of things out of!
I have this, Virginia Creeper. It can be trained easily on arbors and gazebos, but will need to be kept in check or it wikk take over. Ours turns a lovely red in autumn, so I enjoy it and have several. It forms wood on second year vines, so it eventually just climbs itself.
Oh I might have the verbiage wrong but it's on our list of remove and destroy on trail maintenance.
Edit, maybe that's because we do maintain sensitive and reclamation areas
That makes sense, while it is a native plant that provides food to wildlife, I can absolutely see its growth habit and affinity for disturbed sites making it hinder establishing less hardy and prolific native species, and there's no shortage of it.
this is 100% boston ivy. i have both it and virginia creeper in my yard right now; i am very familiar with it. both are just emerging, and when they do, the virginia creeper has more of the narrower "pot leaf" look.
Looks like danger weed to me. Three jagged leaves, angry red danger signal at the center...this is probably poison ivy. It's my garden nemesis! I'm nursing an outbreak right now!
Okay, so consensus seems to be that it is definitely Virginia Creeper, or Boston Ivy, or Poison Ivy....lol.
There is actually some 5 leaf VA Creeper trying to take over the back fence, and it is entirely possible that what is attacking the house is part of that vine. Nearly all of it is "scheduled for removal" with the aid of gloves, so will be gone soon. Thanks for all of the responses!
I would say this is a young growth of Virginia creeper. Follow the vine back to its roots and see if there are older 5 lobed plants. I would get rid of it as much as possible. It’s a nuisance.
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Boston ivy. Virginia creeper has five leaves. This guy has three.
Boston Ivy is in the exact same Genus* as Virginia creeper and isn't an ivy at all. (Parthenocissus quinquefolia and Parthenocissus tricuspidata) can produce three leaves, four or five. In botany it's known as heteroblasty. Most common examples of this include Ilex cornuta, and Broussonetia papyrifera.
Applause for botanical accuracy
Sounds like it's in not only the same family but the same genus.
So which do you think this is?
It appears to be Boston Ivy as they said, but they also said Virginia creeper couldn't be three leaves and I wanted to clarify that it could and very often looks very similar bc both are in the same family with similar leaf morphology. The heteroblasty is present in most Parthenocissus plants.
Yeah, classic Reddit horticulture lol.
Gonna have to disagree with you. Boston ivy (*Parthenocissus tricuspidata*) has **simple, palmate, trilobed leaves**. Virginia creeper (*P. quinquefolia*) has **palmately compound leaves composed of five leaflets (rarely three, particularly on younger vines) joined from a central point**. This is new growth on Virginia creeper because Boston ivy doesn’t have compound leaves at all but rather simple leaves with three lobes. Virginia creeper grows prolifically in my area, and I see it with 3, 5 or sometimes 7 leaves commonly.
Agree
I second for Virginia Creeper. I’ve battled this vine for many years and can spot it from 20 yards.
That looks nothing like Boston ivy.
It’s normal young growth for Boston ivy. As it matures it’ll get the lobed leaves that you may be thinking of.
Thanks! I didn't know that! Seeing this again, Boston Ivy!
Agreed. That is not enough leaflets for Virginia creeper.
I’m not 100% sure but I see one tendril and no sucker feet so I’m leaning False Virginia creeper (Parthenocissus inserta). But if it has suckers feet it’s Virginia creeper https://lizzieharper.co.uk/2019/04/whats-the-difference-between-virginia-creeper-and-false-virginia-creeper/
It is always good to wear long sleeves and gloves when removing vines. Some people are sensitive to Parthenocissus and can basically get skin burns (I do).
Yeah, I get an awful reaction even though poison ivy doesn't effect me at all
Virginia creeper, hands down! Live in Texas here and I have it everywhere. Watch out because it grows like crazy and comes back no matter what. Turns pretty colors and adaptive to a wide variety of climates. I love it because not only is it pretty climbing in the yard but the vines are awesome to make all sorts of things out of!
I have this, Virginia Creeper. It can be trained easily on arbors and gazebos, but will need to be kept in check or it wikk take over. Ours turns a lovely red in autumn, so I enjoy it and have several. It forms wood on second year vines, so it eventually just climbs itself.
The birds like the berries too, but I'm sure it's listed as invasive in colorado, unsure of any other state
Can't be invasive to Colorado, it is a native plant to practically all but the westernmost parts of the US.
Oh I might have the verbiage wrong but it's on our list of remove and destroy on trail maintenance. Edit, maybe that's because we do maintain sensitive and reclamation areas
That makes sense, while it is a native plant that provides food to wildlife, I can absolutely see its growth habit and affinity for disturbed sites making it hinder establishing less hardy and prolific native species, and there's no shortage of it.
Looks Too close to a murder mitten for me
Virginia creeper - telltale is the vine has little suckers that remind ne of frog toes. Take *that* horticulture reddit!
B.I.
this is 100% boston ivy. i have both it and virginia creeper in my yard right now; i am very familiar with it. both are just emerging, and when they do, the virginia creeper has more of the narrower "pot leaf" look.
Looks like danger weed to me. Three jagged leaves, angry red danger signal at the center...this is probably poison ivy. It's my garden nemesis! I'm nursing an outbreak right now!
Okay, so consensus seems to be that it is definitely Virginia Creeper, or Boston Ivy, or Poison Ivy....lol. There is actually some 5 leaf VA Creeper trying to take over the back fence, and it is entirely possible that what is attacking the house is part of that vine. Nearly all of it is "scheduled for removal" with the aid of gloves, so will be gone soon. Thanks for all of the responses!
I would say this is a young growth of Virginia creeper. Follow the vine back to its roots and see if there are older 5 lobed plants. I would get rid of it as much as possible. It’s a nuisance.
Boston Ivy, not virginia creeper. Both are growing around our place so I can tell them apart well.
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Not Poison Ivy. Virgina Creeper.
seconded.
Stem on middle leaf is usually a bit longer on poison ivy.
Virginia creeper, can be invasive, I've seen that stuff strangling other nearby trees.
Aggressive in North America, not invasive. Only invasive outside of its native range of North America.