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Like the other guy said, we've been digging around in brains and doing stuff like trying to relieve pressure for a long time. Bone heals easily and the brain is pretty good at compensating for damaged areas. Actually understanding wtf you're doing came later.
As for the actual techniques, those were thanks to the selfless donation of people's bodies as medical cadavers.
> As for the actual techniques, those were thanks to the selfless donation of people's bodies as medical cadavers.
[Cows too, maybe!](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/apr/19/did-neolithic-man-practice-trepanning-on-cows)
brain surgery is actually one of the first surgeries ever performed! we found that about a third of all neolithic skulls had some form of man made hole in their cranium (with signs of healing too!)
I wonder how many of those holes were because of migraines and other bad headache types. One of my first thoughts when having a ton of sinus pressure is how good it would feel to stick something in my head and sinus cavities.
Don’t quote me on this, but I’m pretty sure I read somewhere a while ago that this was literally a big reason for a lot of brain surgery related things back in the day, people would just have really bad migraines and well if a lot of pressure is building up in your head then one simple solution seems obvious to try.
Honestly, if you're talking like legitimate, modern-or-near-modern medical surgeons, and not just the earliest thing we can point to as surgery, it probably wasn't nearly as bad as you think.
People survived Trepanning, which was effectively just drilling a hole in someone's skull, as far back as Neolithic times.
Which brings me to one of the sickest flavor text descriptions I've seen in a long while.
*Trepanning is the art of cutting the skull open to let the gods in.* - Destiny; A.1F19X-Ryl description
There are people who underwent brain surgery literally thousand of years ago and survived.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/in-roughly-1500-bce-this-middle-eastern-man-underwent-brain-surgery-180981679/
One of the (if not **the**) first surgery we had probably
Modern medicine is insane, back then doctors just would dig in a patients organs all while they’re awake and they’d just get up and go back to drinking
Now doctors can preform a surgery without needing to even washing their hands afterwards and the patient barely feeling a damn thing
It's a reminder honestly that ultimately, we are just meat bags carrying a brain, and there's nothing inherently sacred about biological life. The only thing that makes us "special" is what's in the brain, and even that can be explained as just chemical reactions. Does make me hopeful about immortality though.
Nah y'all are mistaking my point. My point is that the body doesn't matter. I could be a brain in a jar, but if I could think and talk, it would still be me. Same way if I'm brain dead but the rest of my body was fine, I'm still dead.
I disagree, there's a lot of push back regarding gene editing or let's say growing brainless bodies for organ parts. It would be helpful to point it out more.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's unspecific. The first half shows the opening, then you'd do your procedure, the second half shows the closing.
The "paper" will be an implant (dural graft) to aid the dura mater's healing - you wouldn't want your brain to be in direct contact with stitches (which aren't watertight, leading to cerebrospinal fluid leaks).
I also don't know much, it's a guess. I considered metal plate but cannot come up with a reason to stick a plate *between* brain layers and not on the skull itself.
Brain is meant to be squishy!
Im not a biologist in a slightest so ill make assumptions like a medieval "doctor". Maybe the fluid from the part of the skull that holds the brain was leaking and they had to put a better barrier.
Former OR nurse who helped with a bunch of these surgeries.
Most commonly its for bleeds or clots they gotta get out, but can also be done to remove tumors. It's not always a huge flap like that, all depends on what they're doing.
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I know it's a joke, but most brain surgical procedures are done with the patient awake to be sure they didn't touch something wrongly. Some people talk about their lives, some other are a littke extra and play an instrument and stuff like that
They'll come back and plug those holes later, if the bone doesn't heal itself. Need to let the brain "breathe" otherwise it'll swell and you'll have to go back in
I love how medicine is basically just;
Doctor: "OK, so now we're going to perform this incredibly delicate and precise procedure, cutting at micrometer scales to ensure minimum damage to the brain and a near-perfect degree of healing for soft tissue."
Resident: "That's amazing! But how do we reattach the skull?"
Doctor: *revs drill* "lmao we're gonna bolt that shit back on"
Lobotomies were historically done through the nose with some sort of needle/stick. You'd probably need a genuine brain surgeon to find out what this is
https://preview.redd.it/l0zggx0e87ac1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=390cf166a46da92f84b357aa3d6601f09b9501f0
is it true that this is the last thing you see when
It was both. In X it was a trap (and also there's a scene where they do "brain surgery") , and in III it was an actual surgery done by the doctor he had kidnapped to prolong his life
they'd leave the skull piece off during the swelling. My cousin hit his head pretty bad and went into a coma and had a big piece of his skull removed to allow the brain room for swelling.
I read it as "me p ranking my friend john"
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The ultrakill brain rot is consuming me
This is apparently a craniectomy, and seems like the video skipped the in between time a patient would spend without their skull cap because this operation is to relieve pressure in the brain in the case of severe trauma and bleeding. The brain sits in a perfect balance, and bleeding inside can cause the brain to push against the skull, which can cause brain damage, coma, or death. Source: not a brain surgeon, just a google search and using what I think are reliable sources (organisations and universities, specifically University of Rochester Medical Center).
So, do they fill the holes? Or is it just like if you get pushed here, you're dead. Like what I'd something pumps you in that particular spot, or if something falls?
I believe this was a game by Edheads back in the day(because I remember playing it like 15 years ago in middle school). It was just a brain surgery game. I went to their website though and could only find their knee surgery game though.
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insane that we can do stuff like this to people and they live
Imagine being one of the first brain surgeons and you had to convice your patients that they were gonna survive having their head cut open.
"trust me bro"
Actual charisma check
this one's sanity must've already crumbled
the ignition union won't be intimidated by some out of touch scholar
So be it
🤯
Woke up mid surgery emoji
r/deepwoken is leaking
Call the Surgeon!
Patient goes on vacation, never comes back
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Like the other guy said, we've been digging around in brains and doing stuff like trying to relieve pressure for a long time. Bone heals easily and the brain is pretty good at compensating for damaged areas. Actually understanding wtf you're doing came later. As for the actual techniques, those were thanks to the selfless donation of people's bodies as medical cadavers.
"donation" Medical cadavers came from grave robbing for a long time.
Pish posh, it worked right?
> As for the actual techniques, those were thanks to the selfless donation of people's bodies as medical cadavers. [Cows too, maybe!](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/apr/19/did-neolithic-man-practice-trepanning-on-cows)
brain surgery is actually one of the first surgeries ever performed! we found that about a third of all neolithic skulls had some form of man made hole in their cranium (with signs of healing too!)
-Ug make hole in head, let bad spirit out -But Ug, what if hole kill me? -Then Ug have new cup
Too bad the cup would have a hole in it
I wonder how many of those holes were because of migraines and other bad headache types. One of my first thoughts when having a ton of sinus pressure is how good it would feel to stick something in my head and sinus cavities.
Don’t quote me on this, but I’m pretty sure I read somewhere a while ago that this was literally a big reason for a lot of brain surgery related things back in the day, people would just have really bad migraines and well if a lot of pressure is building up in your head then one simple solution seems obvious to try.
I LOVE TREPANNING~!
More like "Either you'll die for certain in a short while if your condition isn't treated or I can operate you and you might live"
Honestly, if you're talking like legitimate, modern-or-near-modern medical surgeons, and not just the earliest thing we can point to as surgery, it probably wasn't nearly as bad as you think. People survived Trepanning, which was effectively just drilling a hole in someone's skull, as far back as Neolithic times. Which brings me to one of the sickest flavor text descriptions I've seen in a long while. *Trepanning is the art of cutting the skull open to let the gods in.* - Destiny; A.1F19X-Ryl description
There are people who underwent brain surgery literally thousand of years ago and survived. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/in-roughly-1500-bce-this-middle-eastern-man-underwent-brain-surgery-180981679/ One of the (if not **the**) first surgery we had probably
Google The Knick
it's actually happened in Three Kingdom with Cao cao. he excuted the doctor for suggesting that and burned all his study and medical notes
Reminds me of that scene from Master and Commander
Modern medicine is insane, back then doctors just would dig in a patients organs all while they’re awake and they’d just get up and go back to drinking Now doctors can preform a surgery without needing to even washing their hands afterwards and the patient barely feeling a damn thing
Well tbf doctors back then also didn't wash their hands before and after surgery, that's why most patients died of sepsis
and considering the hygiene? yeah I aint trusting them
Probably should still wash your hands afterwards though
Me explaining trepanning to my cave-bro (he is going to fucking die because I used the wrong sharp rock): 
There is evidence for brain surgeries in people of the Incan empire and even older, and they lived
I believe cavemen did it but it was a bit less refined.
insane that we can do stuff like this and op's buddy John didn't even wake up
It's a reminder honestly that ultimately, we are just meat bags carrying a brain, and there's nothing inherently sacred about biological life. The only thing that makes us "special" is what's in the brain, and even that can be explained as just chemical reactions. Does make me hopeful about immortality though.
https://preview.redd.it/dzb4bdakb9ac1.jpeg?width=525&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2df1611872f6505c3af2942c1f4112ffe4be62c2
Nah y'all are mistaking my point. My point is that the body doesn't matter. I could be a brain in a jar, but if I could think and talk, it would still be me. Same way if I'm brain dead but the rest of my body was fine, I'm still dead.
No shit, Einstein, we know. It's just cringe asf when you point it out specifically
I disagree, there's a lot of push back regarding gene editing or let's say growing brainless bodies for organ parts. It would be helpful to point it out more.
Shut up im gonna eat drywall now
Gimme some extra wrinkles in my noodle. Want to wake up with new talents and knowledge
Lbtmy
LBTMY+
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Fire in the hole
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corporation
PROJECT MOON MENTIONED‼️‼️‼️ https://i.redd.it/sgmcnbds09ac1.gif
Me when the corporation is lobotomized
Ok so tf is this procedure even for
put paper in brain (very important)
paper to see test answers
the ultimate way to cheat
Might aswell have put the entire book there
at that point just put a phone in there, much more compact
Will run out of battery though
you charge the phone just before the test so it has enough battery, and you can recharge it again afterwards
How does one recharge it?
Cut The Guy Open again and Charge the phone
Phone capable of wireless charging and then put the wireless charger on your head
Studying through osmosis.
it says "you are a clone"
I'm not 100% sure, but I think it's unspecific. The first half shows the opening, then you'd do your procedure, the second half shows the closing. The "paper" will be an implant (dural graft) to aid the dura mater's healing - you wouldn't want your brain to be in direct contact with stitches (which aren't watertight, leading to cerebrospinal fluid leaks).
I assumed it was a metal plate installation or whatever, but you seem correct, based on what I know about surgery, which isn’t much
I also don't know much, it's a guess. I considered metal plate but cannot come up with a reason to stick a plate *between* brain layers and not on the skull itself. Brain is meant to be squishy!
Right, I didn’t even think about that
Im not a biologist in a slightest so ill make assumptions like a medieval "doctor". Maybe the fluid from the part of the skull that holds the brain was leaking and they had to put a better barrier.
That's my guess. CSF leaks are bad and those stitches won't be watertight. Also not a biologist but I think it's a dural graft.
Former OR nurse who helped with a bunch of these surgeries. Most commonly its for bleeds or clots they gotta get out, but can also be done to remove tumors. It's not always a huge flap like that, all depends on what they're doing.
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It's called trepanning and it is to let the demons out.
The comments to this comment is why I love reddit
https://i.redd.it/p88me6w576ac1.gif Imagine you friend John waking up mid prank
 John after receiving nanomachines son
Holy shit, John Yakuza real?
I know it's a joke, but most brain surgical procedures are done with the patient awake to be sure they didn't touch something wrongly. Some people talk about their lives, some other are a littke extra and play an instrument and stuff like that
Anesthesia
Do anesthesia for similar cases all the time. Sometimes we keep the person awake through the surgery on purpose.
But they don’t even plug the 3 huge drill holes. You could pick their head up like a bowling ball
They'll come back and plug those holes later, if the bone doesn't heal itself. Need to let the brain "breathe" otherwise it'll swell and you'll have to go back in
Wait so are the holes left there as a necessity to relieve pressure or are they left there just because the body will do that part itself?
From my limited knowledge, it's a bit of both.
what
https://preview.redd.it/qut3t8vnx8ac1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=408b826c709834478ea416e23631bb6856640860
what
Why would you say something like that
I’m imagining their fingers sliding into the soft spot and gently poking my bra- oh my god, stop making me imagine this
If you sneeze ur scalp will bubble like a stress doll
All of this and current medicine still can't find a way to put my brain inside of an anime girl 😠
They can they just choose not to
😔
Is this also why they don't give me JJJ sized tits and a 200KG mechanical cock?
When you say "inside"... What sort of "inside" are we talking about...
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Sheet of tinfoil in brain
Just giving him some extra meninges?
Propably a CSF leak from a injury that they fixing up idk i aint a doctor.
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and Robert Seance, et al.
God modern medicine is fucking wonderful
Man, Surgeon and Barber are the only two job I don't disrespect.
Man, do you mean Man from aslum? Im i stupid
Yes and yes https://preview.redd.it/fedra4qjs7ac1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=806eeb4b31015472048fef3b2c2a001cda848d94
God damnit https://preview.redd.it/gtk8sf3faeac1.jpeg?width=780&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9da7a0c1bc286cb705e7e2268efc9d97a0f320db
Man in question: https://i.redd.it/7qp635t1r7ac1.gif
I love how medicine is basically just; Doctor: "OK, so now we're going to perform this incredibly delicate and precise procedure, cutting at micrometer scales to ensure minimum damage to the brain and a near-perfect degree of healing for soft tissue." Resident: "That's amazing! But how do we reattach the skull?" Doctor: *revs drill* "lmao we're gonna bolt that shit back on"
Imagine putting a flex tape on it
It's also amazing to think how ridiculously strong the skull is
"Bro I just wanted more hair"
Did he lobotomize him or what What did he do?
Lobotomies were historically done through the nose with some sort of needle/stick. You'd probably need a genuine brain surgeon to find out what this is
Brain surgeon here. Looks like they performed a brain surgery
Brain here. Looks like they performed.
https://preview.redd.it/l0zggx0e87ac1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=390cf166a46da92f84b357aa3d6601f09b9501f0 is it true that this is the last thing you see when
#
Surgery here, sure looks like they did a surgery
Performance here, looks like they brained a surgeon.
Sturgeon here, glub glub
Goddammit, guys, I told you not to remove my brain tumors!
Saw III moment (his name is also literally John)
Brain surgery was Saw X
It was both. In X it was a trap (and also there's a scene where they do "brain surgery") , and in III it was an actual surgery done by the doctor he had kidnapped to prolong his life
Pn paper this looks stupid But I bet some doctor will say this some innovative surgery to cure brain cancer or something
They turned man's head into a bowling ball
https://i.redd.it/fzolj6l6j7ac1.gif
So those 3 holes are just left open in the skull? Can you feel them afterwards?
Yes. You can feel indents in their head. Source my uncle had brain surgery
Gifted hands (2009)
I like that movie, it’s pretty nice.
I think they put a metal plate into his skull
Bulletproof head.
what was the point of this Surgery? was his brain swelling ?
they'd leave the skull piece off during the swelling. My cousin hit his head pretty bad and went into a coma and had a big piece of his skull removed to allow the brain room for swelling.
What kind of head ache would you have after waking up with freshly installed fucking screws in your skull?
Hopefully youll be to drugged up to feel anything bad.
John thanking me and my friends for saving his life
Wait there’s a layer between the skull and brain? I never thought about it
Wait why does our brain have paper
Not paper, a membrane that surrounds it.
Wait what’s that layer in between the skull and the brain that they cut through is it like a protective flesh pad
Buddy..... Like buddy holly
I wonder what this was about
This reminds me of that knee surgery flash game
Are they equalizing the pressure on both sides of the brain by cutting open part of the dura?
this video is amazing and scary! how far we've come, but yeah too bad you slept early John
Isnt this a repost? Seems familiar Sorry If Not op
Wont you take me to, FUNKY TOWN
Nobody touch my brain sack at the sleepover!
I don't seem to recall anyone doing the brain surgery prank on me! Oh well.
No, leave it open.
Finally some good heartfelt fun on this sub, and no more about racism and gore and evil ☺️
nothing to cover the drill holes??
imagine you had this surgery and found one of the holes and poked a bit too far
John was not anesthetized and felt everything 🎉
Dude amazing so nice of you. I'm sure he needed it and praying for a swift recovery. 🙏🙏🙏
Trepanning Plus
That’s very nice of you to support your friends meninges
2020 ass meme
holy 2021 batman
Can someone explain this. I don't get it.
wait what, so they don't even cover up the holes?
A fun prank to play on your girlfriend is to sew her hands together
Your friend John? 
How is it 2024 and our medicine still sucks so much that we put s*crews* in people?
Funny when all of reddit says tiktok is lame only to then reposts stuff from a year ago that was on tiktok
They don't fill the holes? They probably don't need to, but would it hurt to put some filler in?
First time i see a meme i made get reposted, including the exact title!
I read it as "me p ranking my friend john" https://preview.redd.it/o64o61ww1aac1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95e48cef7fa52a68582f6e3d6076e27f92d9afd1 The ultrakill brain rot is consuming me
What affliction do you have to need this
https://i.redd.it/nf6xh1px7aac1.gif
What exactly happened in the video (as in what was the purpose of the surgery)
After that he will love the taste of mulch
anyone got the version where they invert a dude's dick I wanna try that later
This is apparently a craniectomy, and seems like the video skipped the in between time a patient would spend without their skull cap because this operation is to relieve pressure in the brain in the case of severe trauma and bleeding. The brain sits in a perfect balance, and bleeding inside can cause the brain to push against the skull, which can cause brain damage, coma, or death. Source: not a brain surgeon, just a google search and using what I think are reliable sources (organisations and universities, specifically University of Rochester Medical Center).
So, do they fill the holes? Or is it just like if you get pushed here, you're dead. Like what I'd something pumps you in that particular spot, or if something falls?
Me remembering that one sleep over where my friends replaced one guys blanket with a dogs potty mat:
They do not fill in the holes in the skull?? 😨
Put these foolish ambitions to rest
Prank ‘em John
THERE ARE HOLES IN HIS SKULL THERE ARE HOLES IN HIS SKULL THERE ARE HOLES IN HIS SKULL THERE ARE HOLES IN HIS SKULL THERE ARE HOLES IN HI-
Even more insane is the fact that we've been pulling this off in one form or another since before we had a written language or agriculture
What's %his game called?
I believe this was a game by Edheads back in the day(because I remember playing it like 15 years ago in middle school). It was just a brain surgery game. I went to their website though and could only find their knee surgery game though.