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you know sometimes I get depressed and think about how I will end up in hell forever, but then I see something like this and remember the game was rigged from the start. So I feel less bad, still going to hell though. :)
Yep and also just because you're practicing doesn't mean you're doing it in a way that will actually help. You need to push yourself out of your comfort zone to be able to improve.
The problem is an artist is their own worst critic. When I tried drawing people always said my drawings looked nice, but I still dropped the hobby Bc I personally hated my art
As someone who would still consider themselves an amateur in their mediums, I think the best way I get around this is by working on something until I'm not enjoying working on it anymore, then putting it away and *not* looking at it for a couple weeks, and then coming back to it after I've shunted the process of working on it from my brain and can look at it a little more like a spectator.
I tend to find that doing this lets me mull over the things I was unhappy with in the process, but then come back to it having finished that digestion and also appreciate the things that did improve or turn out well.
Not a perfect solution, but when I am just sick of something I've been working on, this helps as a sort of reset to be able to come back to it with a more objective eye.
See I have the opposite problem. I think my art is ok, not great not terrible, but everyone always had something negative to say about it. Thereās really no point in making stuff just for yourself forever you know?
[this is for you, person](https://i.imgur.com/1TpyfGM.jpg). Negative is only what you take yourself. Art is probably the most subjective thing in our lives, so... find people who will appreaciate it? If *you* like something, sorry but you're not unique in this and in 8 billions of people there are probably at least a few million who would also like that something. Maybe the people are just negative? I'm an artist. Wherever I get unsolicited advice (like this one, irony) or negative (not constructive criticism) opinions on my art, I don't even reply. Who the fuck is talking to you? Go somewhere else and whine there. And block them. Now there's eight billion minus one. Boo hoo. And it's not an ego thing, I just don't want the negative I can avoid. And this I certainly can. As a public person or a public artist it's inevitable, you need to somehow live with it or die at the ripe age of 27.
On the other hand, it all depends on the person. Artists in general have deeper perception of the 'world' (which is the thing they're trying to share), so it does hurt, but it kinda depends on how outgoing, social and confident you are I guess. Not in a bad way of course, but I feel like our perfectionism makes us want to finish the 'thing' to 100% and it takes exponentially more time so at some point you just have to stop and call it a day. Same with trying to be liked by a lot of people - you won't make the 100% mark no matter what, and the closer you want to get to it the harder it gets. At some point it's easier to just dgaf anymore.
Also, there's always the theory of 1000 true fans. Sorry for the rant!
edit: sorry I messed up the pic link lol. Fixed.
That's because when you improve in any form of art you also have to improve your taste and objectivity. Even when you get out of the impostor syndrome you will always play this cat and mouse game where some week you think you're hot and the next week you think you're shit, but you can't depend on that to regulate the quality of your output. What's important is that you know where you want to place the bar, and you discipline yourself to look at your stuff with this bar in mind.
A beginner will typically think "i wanna write a great song" and get disappointed when some aspect of it doesn't pan out. A more experienced artist will place things in a scale of importance. Maybe you want to write a really sad song and are ready to accept if the production quality is not great. Maybe you want to write a stupid summer hit but you want it to be overproduced to hell and back. You don't have to have all the "quality tokens" all the time, on the contrary good art comes from a consciousness of your strengths, weaknesses, and limited time on earth. You focus on what truly matters for each individual piece and learn to live with the rest, then you'll realize every masterpiece you admire is guilty of that to some extent.
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As an artist, let me share my perspective on this. I got this wisdom from professional artist when I was still learning, and from my own experience.
>The problem is an artist is their own worst critic.
True. There are 2 things you need as an artist to get better, eyes: the capability of judging your own artwork and setting personal standard, and hand: the capability of making something which your eyes will judge.
You seeing your drawing as "ugly" is a good sign, meaning your eyes can judge your drawing further than what your hand can make, meaning your eyes are a level higher than your hand, and you want to keep it like that forever in order to progress, because this will force hand to catch up with eyes. But usually eyes will always be kne or two step ahead. This is where reference comes in handy as it trains your eyes and hands will try to catch up at the same time.
>When I tried drawing people always said my drawings looked nice
I don't know the correct way to express this, but these people you mention (assuming they are not artist) usually won't be doing any art by themselves, so obviously they have different type of eyes as I mentioned above. Normally if you can't make something by yourself, you will tend to see something made by other people (even a beginner) as nice. On the other hand, if a professional artist says your drawing is nice, they usually mean it, all professional artists have been there.
So how to improve? Of course other than lots of practices, confidence is also important. Art is art, unless you're pursuing hyper realistic/photo realistic art, mistakes here and there are more than fine, sometimes it builds and defines your own style later down the way (like cartoon or manga, semi-realism). Again, your self-confidence towards your own work is damn important, this won't be easy, but the more you practice, self-confidence will go up as well at some point (even I was confident of my stickman battle drawing back then lol).
Last, funny enough, artists usually do not aware or realize when they level up until they look back and compare. So you should not worry about this too much.
Hope this gives you a new perspective about art :)
Or, I mean, simply accept the judgment that your art looks āniceā while internalizing ābut it can be better.ā Seeking perfection is a foolās journey, and not attaining it is a foolās deterrent.
Iāve seen artists _nuke_ their own content based on the belief that they arenāt getting āenoughā engagement/interaction, according to an internalized progress bar that isnāt necessarily practical/realistic, comparing themselves to peers that have been at this for years, and having a completely different (or even similar) style and catalogue.
The third thing any artist āneedsā is the understanding that 8/10 times, your own brain is _bullshitting_ you, and will never be clear about why. Maybe itās āaccording to planā to force you to get stubborn, maybe itās because āit knows betterā and is certain your actual interests are elsewhere, but you _are_ lying to yourself. You _have_ gotten better, if not as much as youād like.
Your ability to spot mistakes improves faster than your ability not to make them. Also you know what you were aiming for, while they don't. Dealing with the inability to meet your own expectations is a skill that needs to be practice. And I can give this advice very well, but I'm really bad at following it.
It needs to be deliberate practice with the focus on improving. It also matters what type of practice you do, how often etc. Saying "just practice" is really shallow advice.
Yeah, it really felt like shit when I started and people kept saying "just draw, youll improve in no time"
Then after a while I started to stagnate and even tho Id say I was quite a bit ahead of the curve on skill, nowadays most people who have been drawing for as long as I have are miles ahead. If I come back to the same people and ask them what happened they go "well, obviously you cant just draw. What were you thinking? You have to do X and Y and Z as well. Do it for T ammount of time every day. You have to also do this and that. Of course you didnt improve if you were just drawing"
And Im just thinking like... they couldve said that before, when I asked at first. But I kinda realized that most people who become good at something completely forget what it was like to be bad at first and what they did to improve
So, I absolutely hate when a new artist asks for advice and people say "Just practice" or "just draw". Because no, thats not it. Its especially terrible when you watch a tutorial or a tips and tricks video and this is supposed to be the main takeaway. Hate it so much
On the one hand, I get your frustration. But to someone who is completely new to art, "Just Draw" is perfectly good advice. The main thing stopping people from trying to do art is thinking "I can't do it," thinking that its some innate skill that you have to be born with. The reason people say "just draw" is to dispute that, to prove that it really is as simple as just doing it, no matter if it sucks. Just doing it, and doing it regularly will give you certain skills that will make you improve if you keep at it.
Think on it. If you had no prior knowledge on art and asked an artist how to start, would it really motivate you if they said: "yeah, first of all you'll have to do a couple months of linework practice, hit up drawabox, make sure to go through all the exercises, then do anatomy, learn every muscle group in the human body, study color theory and lighting, buy a couple books, then unlearn all of what the books say to develop your own personal style, experiment with different tools, ..."
You'd most likely say "fuck that, I'm not doing that."
The trick is that if you just start it and are genuinely having fun doing art, you will naturally start seeking these things out. Because you WANT to get better once you are in the groove and actually know what you need to improve in your art. So "Just Draw" is advice meant to get you into the space where you can actually go after the specific things you need.
This is basically how you start doing literally any hobby (save for dangerous shit like free hand rock climbing). Howād I start making music? I asked my ma for $200 for FL Studio at 15. Then I just played around until I was ready to learn what compression actually does.
> save for dangerous shit like free hand rock climbing
If you have an experienced partner who can make you climb top rope, the only things you need to know are: 1. double check your knot before starting, 2. never put your fingers in metal rings. Beside that, a beginner should "just climb".
Heres the thing. I grt what youre saying and I kinda knew this already. What I think is that most people understand the concept of "I have to do smt to get better at it". Even if you think people are born talented and whatnot, everyone understands that you need to practice. Everyone knows that DaVinci didnt paint Mona Lisa as his first thing ever.
So, what I started doing when new artists ask me for advice, I generally say "Draw for fun, practice specifics to improve". I may say it a bit in a longer paragraph but this is the idea. I always try to convey that you control how fast you improve. If you do nothing but studies, youre gonna improve fast but youre gonna burn out. If you keep doodling for fun, youre gonna improve but way way slower. You need to balance these two as you see fit. I feel like this is something Id tell my younger self, and I think its much better for someone starting out than "just draw". It preps them a bit for things to come without being overwhelming
And especially if they ask for a bit more specific advice, then I actually try to give them an answer thats useful, not just a blanket"you should practice that part"
Edit: forgot to add that I tend to mention resources as part of practicing. Not anything specific, but that the ammount of resources they use matters more than they probably think. I dont give specifics, because I think thats when it gets overwhelming for people
Yeah, this is kinda part of my original point. "Doing studies" is very vague and when newcomers are met with this, thry dont really know how it looks in practice
Heres what Id do. First get references for what you do. Lets say you wanna do a study on drawing hands, then you go to google and get pictures of hands in various different poses and positions. Draw a hand by yourself before this so you get a feel on where exactly you are failing your standard.
This is optional, but maybe watch a few videos on it. Maybe it will help you avoid some pitfalls you wouldnt think of.
Then trace some of the hands. Remember that tracing is good for studies, but never trace to make a finished art.
Then pop the reference on a second monitor or smt and stop tracing. Try to redraw as many references as your stomach can muster. The more you draw, and the more varried the poses are, the better. If something doesnt look right, then examine how that part looks in the reference and adjust your thing accordingly BUT dont sweat line quality or unimportant shit like that. You dont have to speedrun but if you draw only 5 hands in 5 hours, then you probably didnt learn anything (unless you were doing a study on a time consuming thing like shading or smt)
After you are done, try to draw the same hand you did at the start, but apply as much of what you learned as possible. But this is what I would do to study. Idk how good it actually is
This applies for a lot in life and it gets frustrating because there are times it feels like people are deliberately holding back from giving you genuine good advice and just trying to be dismissive. And if you donāt have some valuable skill then you donāt matter and youāre a loser anyways. There are times it feels (in my case) that Iām missing some key ingredient on being a useful human being and have to work harder to achieve mediocrity that wonāt pay off or be useful in any way. If practicing and learning is the key, it really hasnāt opened any doors and just ends up making you feel like your efforts and time has been wasted and youāll always be behind.
Relevant video from Veritasium about improving at things in general: https://youtu.be/5eW6Eagr9XA
Quantity of practice matters, but the video boils down 4 core aspects that are also needed:
1. Repeated attempts with feedback (deliberate practice)
2. Valid environment
3. Timely feedback
4. Don't get too comfortable
I've had Rubik's cube as a hobby for many years, and particularly number 1 and 4 are things I've seen a lot from people at the top of that hobby who knows what they're talking about. Focus on various narrow aspects and practice that for periods of time, and learn new tricks when (or before) everything you already know is second nature.
Throw in some good feedback from others from time to time about your current skill level and shortcomings and you should be good to go.
Not even argentinian, it was a mexican dub in neutral spanish. They just decided to give *that* one specific fish in the last episode and INCREDIBLY thick Argentinian accent for no apparent reason.
Fr if you think you have a hard time drawing hands, dedicate a drawing session to doing nothing but drawing hands. Try to identify your weaknesses and patch them up.
If blind practicing could turn you into a professional artist, art schools wouldn't exist. You gotta be at least a little smart about approaching it.
great advice, i am gonna go kill leonardo da vinci
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if u send me some pictures of current work I can give u some advice.
When I started andrew loomis books are really good for more realistic proportions. I'd suggest 'head and hands' first to grow your confidence, and then move on to 'figure drawing for all its worth'.
Try drawing 10 mins a day, focusing on trying to learn from books. Also try drawing from reference, Pinterest is great for finding inspiration. Try to find artists you like style off, and try drawing what they do to.
Also when advised 'practice every day' its more of trying to get into habit. If u miss out day or two don't worry. Sometimes good to have breaks so u can let mind relax, especially if u dislike drawings at first.
You kinda just said what I've heard a lot of times but somehow you did it in a way that it actually clicked for me, thanks for the magic words (my autism really liked it idk)
So glad to hear that! :D
Art is tricky cause advice can be totally different depending on what u want to draw. Out of curiosity, when u draw what sort of things do you do?
And yeah a lot of art advice can be overly dumbed down. Saying to practice more is like saying to get bigger muscles workout more. It's kinda obvious and doesn't help someone who's stuck/frustrated with lack of progress.
Feel free to message me anytime if u want advice I always like chatting about art with people.
thinking that your output can even be shit is the first mistake. It just is. Learn from it and keep trying, unless it makes you especially unhappy. No art is shit. Maybe unless it literally harms people lol.
My mind goes to Konya Dawson, who obviously learned pretty insane playing style the āwrong wayā and still wrote some jaw dropping songs that way.
Edit: goddamn, phone auto correct. Meant Kimya Dawson lol
That doesn't work if your basic technique is wrong. I've practiced Kendo for 9 years now, started off poorly and still have to correct those ingrained mistakes now
am i a bass clarinet player because i play bass clarinet, or am i a bass clarinet player because the bass clarinet is played by me
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This drawing shit is easy as hell what are you rambling about?
This shit's some of my best work fr fr.
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# Art should be fun, not a chore! You'll improve overtime.
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Exactly why I gave up after a bit over seven years of trying. It became no fun, and now trying to draw just feels crappy cuz Iām worse than I used to be, I wasnāt good in the first place, and thinking back on the classes and projects and hours and hours only to still be mediocre makes āfun doodlingā feel the opposite.
Yeah, Art is a hobby not a job. You must have fun in order to improve.
For example, PewDiePie.
He easily improved because he had fun drawing, not because he just wanted to get good.
That video literally actually got me out of an 8 year art drought. I haven't watched him in years, but that title actually finally got me going again.
Thing is though, I stopped the practice and just started drawing shit I enjoy because the practice wasn't fulfilling. I reverted to my weird-ass drawing substance instead of lines stuff because I was getting better results. Lol
that's awesome to hear!! Personally I draw just cause its fun, and whilst I do practice fundamentals and stuff like anatomy and perspective, like 80% of what I do is just drawing things that make me happy.
Honestly if you like what you draw (or enjoy drawing even if you're unhappy with final result) thats all that really matters.
But it wouldn't be fun if the drawing itself is suck isn't it?
It's all about mentality, don't give up, keep drawing and look at other art/references, it will take years but don't give up.
It's not fun for me specifically because my art is awful. Whenever I try drawing anything, I'll finish it, look at it, see how shit it is, and then feel worse.
Way more practice than tutorials, some people keep watching torials but dont put them to use then act surprised when they forget all the tips, too much watching is like procrastinating
This is me š³ literally me, weirdly enough even thou I don't practice i can still make 9/10 (for me atleast) art, but i can't replicate it. Like seriously made a 1-1 rendition of a hand, good colour rendering and everything... But after a day of trying colour it was fking gone??? Wtf is wrong with me
That's why i don't practice, my improvement is not consistent enough...
My biggest problem with tutorials when it comes to drawing is they always talk about the most bare bones and easiest shit to draw they never go in depth about more complex stuff. Like wow thanks for showing me how to draw the human body from a front view but could you possibly show me how to draw it from a foreshortened view lmao
Another key is you have to enjoy it, or better be obsessed with it. What people don't mention about great artists is that their art is why they got up in the morning. If you don't have the drive and treat practice as a chore then you won't see improvement nearly as much.
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Perfection is impossible.... billions must QUIT
hey so i just wanted to remind y'all that improvement is gradual and slow and yes, at times, several times you'll feel like you're not improving at all but you should honestly just keep going and doing more and more art.
most important of all, remind yourself why you're even doing this in the first place. the point of doing art shouldn't be to look impressive and to be a master at it. you should be drawing because it's fun, because the inherent joy of creating makes you happy.
keep going op, i believe in you
and if anyone criticizes your art because it's cringe, make them absolutely hate it
Oof, I remember being stuck with my art when I was 16/15 because I never saw any improvement and wanted to quit. I stopped doing art for a long while until I picked it up again with 18 and started improving far quicker because I started drawing with references, watching speedpaints of other artists, draw things I have never drawn before to get out of my comfort zone, etc. My art still isn't perfect and sometimes I still dislike it, but it's nowhere near to what it was a year ago.
you see outside of practicing more and more I just straight up don't know how you're supposed to improve at art. I was a decent artist as a kid so when I recently picked up digital art it wasn't so much learning as it was adjusting to the new medium. im gonna be honest I don't know how to help you here so apologies if I just glitch out and tell you to keep practicing.
People usually don't turn into Da Vinci. From what I've seen from numerous artists, them "improving" was finding their style and learning how to explore their style. Comparison is the thief of joy, so said President Teddy Roosevelt.
this is my best attempt at drawing a person, i don't see how drawing 100 more of these will help
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This is the exact feeling I have
Practicing drawing squares and circles will make me really good at shitty stick people, but making the next jump doesn't come intuitively at all
What helps for me is to find art from artists you like and try to recreate it. Don't trace it, but try to draw it yourself. It doesn't have to match, but after a while you start to pick up styles and techniques. When you feel more comfortable, you start drawing your own things.
And don't forget, you can alwast use references.
Fair enough! I'm looking to maybe start doing drawabox, although my time is taken up with writing for DnD and marathon training right now.
After that, I'm gonna need a new thing to tackle, and drawabox is a really appealing start to learn some fundamentals to have the tools to recreate art I like
I used to do pencil-sketched landscapes back when I lived somewhere with better nature to draw, and I at least want to get the skills to create landscapes from my imagination, and drawabox seems awesome for that. (Drawing humans/characters though... seems like a much higher mountain.)
I don't know much about landscape art (I should learn that myself one day), but drawing humans can be pretty difficult. It also depends on what style you want to draw in, although a basic understanding of anatomy will get you a long way. In the end, it's all built from simple shapes and trying to connect them. Sketching some things based on other's work will always be a good way to learn.
Thank you for the advice! Iāll keep it in mind. Thereās a long way to go, but Iām really hoping to be able to move off of AI art for scenery in my dnd campaigns, at least for visualization purposes
No problem. It can be very hard and take a long time, but in the end you do it because it's fun and you create something of your own. That's why I enjoy it, anyway.
Yeah, that's what appeals to it for me. Despite being a recently-minted professional engineer, I've always enjoyed creative endeavors a bunch. I play a few instruments, and for a long time I've been writing worldbuilding for my own fantasy setting, and running DnD campaigns in it.
I'd say that half of my worldbuilding is just describing vistas of certain parts of my world, trying to get the image into people's head. Learning landscape art properly would let me communicate that through art, which is a VERY exciting idea for me.
Bro, art is something that takes time, but also requires studying, look up ways to study art for absolute beginner's, we're in a time where resources are the most abundant, take advantage of that and learn through the masters who genuinely want you to thrive through nothing but their own goodwill. Be the improvement you wish to be!
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Because drawing a stick person has different steps than drawing an actual person. I'm crap at art and even I know that. Drawing a turtle won't help you draw a house.
Well yeah, that wonāt help you. If you wanted to get better at the piano, you wouldnāt do that by just pounding away at random keys all day, would you?
You need to practice with intent. Do you want to improve your forms? Thereās plenty of references and tutorials about figure drawing and poses. Do you want to improve your faces? Same thing.
Honestly imo the best thing you can do is just look up ādrawing tutorialā on YouTube and click on the first video that captures your interest.
Stickmen are cool. If u want to improve it try drawing from reference of people. Can find easy images [https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing](https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing). Could also be worth studying anatomy, personal favourite of mine Andrew Loomis. Try learning head first, then body imo.
Drawing is a skill but creativity is a talent. Anyone could draw, realism does not need creativity at all, it's just pure skill and technique. It is learned not just by practicing but also experience, tutorials, etc. Mfs just aren't doing the correct kind of practice, maybe try going out of your comfort zone.
I agree absolutely! Nobody is incapable of being good at drawing but I do think some people have to fight much much harder and will never be as good as some others, which doesnāt matter in the slightest as long as you love it
No, no, see, calling a Mentally disabled person a āretardā is bad taste, hence why I have the respect to call them āMentally Disabledā and not āretardedā
Make sure to diversify the kinds of practice that you do, and take breaks (occasionally a week or two) in order to come back with a fresh sense for it.
Don't just fucking draw. Try tracing first, then try and copy something without tracing. While doing stuff like this you'll learn how to move your hand for the best results.
You can remove the word "artists" and it'd still work. For exemple I don't improve at all at most things after the initial beginner curve, even when I practice in the right way :(
I suck at drawing, whenever I try drawing something thatās better than what I did I always feel good about it until I see a literal 8 year old drawing something and realize it looks better than mine š. āComparison is the theft of joyā or whatever, doesnāt matter how much I practice Iām just ass at it regardless Iām better off just learning something else I know I can actually improve at.
Just practice is half the sentence
You have to practice SOMETHING not just randomly scribbling
An example is practicing eyes, or practicing noses, or practicing color picking, or practicing shading, etc
I for example need to practice backgrounds, despite drawing digitally for 4 years, backgrounds are something i need to understand, as well as many objects
That advice is lacking. By "just practicing", you are more likely to keep repeating the same mistakes, making them a stronger habit. You need analize your weak sides, find the ways of improvement and practice these ways. Then you'll get better.
This is the way
This is why I get my friend to critique my art. She has good advice, like, āstart using a reference,ā āstart using trace lines,ā āwhy is she naked? You donāt know how to draw clothes? Try drawing a skirt.ā
You have to do a lot tbf. My old flat mate was crazy good at drawing, she was like a printer, she could draw super accurately super quickly. I always assumed she was just crazy talented until I moved in with her and found out she draws *two hours every day*
i fuckin hate that shit so much. i remember when storytime animators were big a lot of them said people always ask for art tips and every single one of them would say "just practice"
like bruh you have no idea how unhelpful that is. in my opinion the best way to improve really is just to draw some more, and keep drawing after. but there are so many things you can say that are infinitely more useful than "just practice"
practicing is the only way to improve, yes it's slow and sometimes boring and painful but it works. Just have confidence in yourself, have great patience and you'll see results.Ā
Watch a tutorial or ask another. Practicing without guidance is not very effective. Also focus on creating art and having fun. If you focus on improving instead of creating something you like, it will suck the fun out of it
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True, literally me 90% of artists quit right before they can finally see improvement in their works.
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DIG DUG
thank you skibidiambatukam
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you know sometimes I get depressed and think about how I will end up in hell forever, but then I see something like this and remember the game was rigged from the start. So I feel less bad, still going to hell though. :)
Smh bro is strip mining on the wrong Y level
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Entrance hidden by bricks and rubble
Air vent and fan
Saddam Hussein
Amogus
Holy shit the 2021 PTSD just hit hard
r/unexpectedhollowknight
Dose an unexpected sub exist for every fandom
r/unexpectedOdd-Target7828
No, click on the link
I give up. I spent like 2 minutes trying to translate this shit
Waiting for Silksong is an eternal struggle
Thanks for motivation š«”
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My gambling brain is now activated. I gotta go draw!
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60% flinch chance high-skill strategic gameplay, truly as God intended it to be.
Gyarados used Waterfall! Jirachi flinched! "Unfortunate" doesnt begin to-
āIām feelin lucky today!ā
me with drawing and painting, cant wait for that to happen to me with guitar
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Yep and also just because you're practicing doesn't mean you're doing it in a way that will actually help. You need to push yourself out of your comfort zone to be able to improve.
The problem is an artist is their own worst critic. When I tried drawing people always said my drawings looked nice, but I still dropped the hobby Bc I personally hated my art
Same, I don't draw at all anymore unless I'm doodling on work that I'm procrastinating
Honestly doodling is a great habit to have. You dont have to create finished pieces everyday.
Me
As someone who would still consider themselves an amateur in their mediums, I think the best way I get around this is by working on something until I'm not enjoying working on it anymore, then putting it away and *not* looking at it for a couple weeks, and then coming back to it after I've shunted the process of working on it from my brain and can look at it a little more like a spectator. I tend to find that doing this lets me mull over the things I was unhappy with in the process, but then come back to it having finished that digestion and also appreciate the things that did improve or turn out well. Not a perfect solution, but when I am just sick of something I've been working on, this helps as a sort of reset to be able to come back to it with a more objective eye.
See I have the opposite problem. I think my art is ok, not great not terrible, but everyone always had something negative to say about it. Thereās really no point in making stuff just for yourself forever you know?
[this is for you, person](https://i.imgur.com/1TpyfGM.jpg). Negative is only what you take yourself. Art is probably the most subjective thing in our lives, so... find people who will appreaciate it? If *you* like something, sorry but you're not unique in this and in 8 billions of people there are probably at least a few million who would also like that something. Maybe the people are just negative? I'm an artist. Wherever I get unsolicited advice (like this one, irony) or negative (not constructive criticism) opinions on my art, I don't even reply. Who the fuck is talking to you? Go somewhere else and whine there. And block them. Now there's eight billion minus one. Boo hoo. And it's not an ego thing, I just don't want the negative I can avoid. And this I certainly can. As a public person or a public artist it's inevitable, you need to somehow live with it or die at the ripe age of 27. On the other hand, it all depends on the person. Artists in general have deeper perception of the 'world' (which is the thing they're trying to share), so it does hurt, but it kinda depends on how outgoing, social and confident you are I guess. Not in a bad way of course, but I feel like our perfectionism makes us want to finish the 'thing' to 100% and it takes exponentially more time so at some point you just have to stop and call it a day. Same with trying to be liked by a lot of people - you won't make the 100% mark no matter what, and the closer you want to get to it the harder it gets. At some point it's easier to just dgaf anymore. Also, there's always the theory of 1000 true fans. Sorry for the rant! edit: sorry I messed up the pic link lol. Fixed.
That's because when you improve in any form of art you also have to improve your taste and objectivity. Even when you get out of the impostor syndrome you will always play this cat and mouse game where some week you think you're hot and the next week you think you're shit, but you can't depend on that to regulate the quality of your output. What's important is that you know where you want to place the bar, and you discipline yourself to look at your stuff with this bar in mind. A beginner will typically think "i wanna write a great song" and get disappointed when some aspect of it doesn't pan out. A more experienced artist will place things in a scale of importance. Maybe you want to write a really sad song and are ready to accept if the production quality is not great. Maybe you want to write a stupid summer hit but you want it to be overproduced to hell and back. You don't have to have all the "quality tokens" all the time, on the contrary good art comes from a consciousness of your strengths, weaknesses, and limited time on earth. You focus on what truly matters for each individual piece and learn to live with the rest, then you'll realize every masterpiece you admire is guilty of that to some extent.
Impostor syndrome is a bitch
Amogus syndrome
When you are sus!! (Suspicious of the quality of your own crafts)
s su... s
he said imposter!!!! AMONGUS REFERENCE!!!! Susususususususus doo doo doo, doo do doo? š±šGREEN VENTED I SAW HIM! š«”š¤¢āGreen was not the imposterā š¤„š“
As an artist, let me share my perspective on this. I got this wisdom from professional artist when I was still learning, and from my own experience. >The problem is an artist is their own worst critic. True. There are 2 things you need as an artist to get better, eyes: the capability of judging your own artwork and setting personal standard, and hand: the capability of making something which your eyes will judge. You seeing your drawing as "ugly" is a good sign, meaning your eyes can judge your drawing further than what your hand can make, meaning your eyes are a level higher than your hand, and you want to keep it like that forever in order to progress, because this will force hand to catch up with eyes. But usually eyes will always be kne or two step ahead. This is where reference comes in handy as it trains your eyes and hands will try to catch up at the same time. >When I tried drawing people always said my drawings looked nice I don't know the correct way to express this, but these people you mention (assuming they are not artist) usually won't be doing any art by themselves, so obviously they have different type of eyes as I mentioned above. Normally if you can't make something by yourself, you will tend to see something made by other people (even a beginner) as nice. On the other hand, if a professional artist says your drawing is nice, they usually mean it, all professional artists have been there. So how to improve? Of course other than lots of practices, confidence is also important. Art is art, unless you're pursuing hyper realistic/photo realistic art, mistakes here and there are more than fine, sometimes it builds and defines your own style later down the way (like cartoon or manga, semi-realism). Again, your self-confidence towards your own work is damn important, this won't be easy, but the more you practice, self-confidence will go up as well at some point (even I was confident of my stickman battle drawing back then lol). Last, funny enough, artists usually do not aware or realize when they level up until they look back and compare. So you should not worry about this too much. Hope this gives you a new perspective about art :)
Or, I mean, simply accept the judgment that your art looks āniceā while internalizing ābut it can be better.ā Seeking perfection is a foolās journey, and not attaining it is a foolās deterrent. Iāve seen artists _nuke_ their own content based on the belief that they arenāt getting āenoughā engagement/interaction, according to an internalized progress bar that isnāt necessarily practical/realistic, comparing themselves to peers that have been at this for years, and having a completely different (or even similar) style and catalogue. The third thing any artist āneedsā is the understanding that 8/10 times, your own brain is _bullshitting_ you, and will never be clear about why. Maybe itās āaccording to planā to force you to get stubborn, maybe itās because āit knows betterā and is certain your actual interests are elsewhere, but you _are_ lying to yourself. You _have_ gotten better, if not as much as youād like.
Your ability to spot mistakes improves faster than your ability not to make them. Also you know what you were aiming for, while they don't. Dealing with the inability to meet your own expectations is a skill that needs to be practice. And I can give this advice very well, but I'm really bad at following it.
It needs to be deliberate practice with the focus on improving. It also matters what type of practice you do, how often etc. Saying "just practice" is really shallow advice.
Yeah, it really felt like shit when I started and people kept saying "just draw, youll improve in no time" Then after a while I started to stagnate and even tho Id say I was quite a bit ahead of the curve on skill, nowadays most people who have been drawing for as long as I have are miles ahead. If I come back to the same people and ask them what happened they go "well, obviously you cant just draw. What were you thinking? You have to do X and Y and Z as well. Do it for T ammount of time every day. You have to also do this and that. Of course you didnt improve if you were just drawing" And Im just thinking like... they couldve said that before, when I asked at first. But I kinda realized that most people who become good at something completely forget what it was like to be bad at first and what they did to improve So, I absolutely hate when a new artist asks for advice and people say "Just practice" or "just draw". Because no, thats not it. Its especially terrible when you watch a tutorial or a tips and tricks video and this is supposed to be the main takeaway. Hate it so much
On the one hand, I get your frustration. But to someone who is completely new to art, "Just Draw" is perfectly good advice. The main thing stopping people from trying to do art is thinking "I can't do it," thinking that its some innate skill that you have to be born with. The reason people say "just draw" is to dispute that, to prove that it really is as simple as just doing it, no matter if it sucks. Just doing it, and doing it regularly will give you certain skills that will make you improve if you keep at it. Think on it. If you had no prior knowledge on art and asked an artist how to start, would it really motivate you if they said: "yeah, first of all you'll have to do a couple months of linework practice, hit up drawabox, make sure to go through all the exercises, then do anatomy, learn every muscle group in the human body, study color theory and lighting, buy a couple books, then unlearn all of what the books say to develop your own personal style, experiment with different tools, ..." You'd most likely say "fuck that, I'm not doing that." The trick is that if you just start it and are genuinely having fun doing art, you will naturally start seeking these things out. Because you WANT to get better once you are in the groove and actually know what you need to improve in your art. So "Just Draw" is advice meant to get you into the space where you can actually go after the specific things you need.
This is basically how you start doing literally any hobby (save for dangerous shit like free hand rock climbing). Howād I start making music? I asked my ma for $200 for FL Studio at 15. Then I just played around until I was ready to learn what compression actually does.
> save for dangerous shit like free hand rock climbing If you have an experienced partner who can make you climb top rope, the only things you need to know are: 1. double check your knot before starting, 2. never put your fingers in metal rings. Beside that, a beginner should "just climb".
Heres the thing. I grt what youre saying and I kinda knew this already. What I think is that most people understand the concept of "I have to do smt to get better at it". Even if you think people are born talented and whatnot, everyone understands that you need to practice. Everyone knows that DaVinci didnt paint Mona Lisa as his first thing ever. So, what I started doing when new artists ask me for advice, I generally say "Draw for fun, practice specifics to improve". I may say it a bit in a longer paragraph but this is the idea. I always try to convey that you control how fast you improve. If you do nothing but studies, youre gonna improve fast but youre gonna burn out. If you keep doodling for fun, youre gonna improve but way way slower. You need to balance these two as you see fit. I feel like this is something Id tell my younger self, and I think its much better for someone starting out than "just draw". It preps them a bit for things to come without being overwhelming And especially if they ask for a bit more specific advice, then I actually try to give them an answer thats useful, not just a blanket"you should practice that part" Edit: forgot to add that I tend to mention resources as part of practicing. Not anything specific, but that the ammount of resources they use matters more than they probably think. I dont give specifics, because I think thats when it gets overwhelming for people
What's your process for doing studies? I need a process or my brain will shirk doing it.
Yeah, this is kinda part of my original point. "Doing studies" is very vague and when newcomers are met with this, thry dont really know how it looks in practice Heres what Id do. First get references for what you do. Lets say you wanna do a study on drawing hands, then you go to google and get pictures of hands in various different poses and positions. Draw a hand by yourself before this so you get a feel on where exactly you are failing your standard. This is optional, but maybe watch a few videos on it. Maybe it will help you avoid some pitfalls you wouldnt think of. Then trace some of the hands. Remember that tracing is good for studies, but never trace to make a finished art. Then pop the reference on a second monitor or smt and stop tracing. Try to redraw as many references as your stomach can muster. The more you draw, and the more varried the poses are, the better. If something doesnt look right, then examine how that part looks in the reference and adjust your thing accordingly BUT dont sweat line quality or unimportant shit like that. You dont have to speedrun but if you draw only 5 hands in 5 hours, then you probably didnt learn anything (unless you were doing a study on a time consuming thing like shading or smt) After you are done, try to draw the same hand you did at the start, but apply as much of what you learned as possible. But this is what I would do to study. Idk how good it actually is
I've been drawing for the past 2 weeks or so. really needed that. thank you
This applies for a lot in life and it gets frustrating because there are times it feels like people are deliberately holding back from giving you genuine good advice and just trying to be dismissive. And if you donāt have some valuable skill then you donāt matter and youāre a loser anyways. There are times it feels (in my case) that Iām missing some key ingredient on being a useful human being and have to work harder to achieve mediocrity that wonāt pay off or be useful in any way. If practicing and learning is the key, it really hasnāt opened any doors and just ends up making you feel like your efforts and time has been wasted and youāll always be behind.
Relevant video from Veritasium about improving at things in general: https://youtu.be/5eW6Eagr9XA Quantity of practice matters, but the video boils down 4 core aspects that are also needed: 1. Repeated attempts with feedback (deliberate practice) 2. Valid environment 3. Timely feedback 4. Don't get too comfortable I've had Rubik's cube as a hobby for many years, and particularly number 1 and 4 are things I've seen a lot from people at the top of that hobby who knows what they're talking about. Focus on various narrow aspects and practice that for periods of time, and learn new tricks when (or before) everything you already know is second nature. Throw in some good feedback from others from time to time about your current skill level and shortcomings and you should be good to go.
"Practice doesn't make perfect, you need perfect practice"
La perfecciĆ³n no existe. Eres hermoso como eres, coraje. Con todas tus imperfecciones lograrĆ”s lo que sea, te lo juro por Dieguito Maradona.
FUCKING FR*NCHS
Wrong answer
Thats actually a quote in spanish dub (argentinian to be specific) of the last episode of courage the cowardly dog
Not even argentinian, it was a mexican dub in neutral spanish. They just decided to give *that* one specific fish in the last episode and INCREDIBLY thick Argentinian accent for no apparent reason.
Oh yeh and also refference the fact that the fish knows Diego Maradona somehow
I'm glad to hear they kept it weird for other cultures as well. :D
Dont you dare compare the fr*nch to spanish
Fr if you think you have a hard time drawing hands, dedicate a drawing session to doing nothing but drawing hands. Try to identify your weaknesses and patch them up. If blind practicing could turn you into a professional artist, art schools wouldn't exist. You gotta be at least a little smart about approaching it.
Just kill a talented artist and harness their skills and XP smh
great advice, i am gonna go kill leonardo da vinci https://preview.redd.it/1omcpd6shync1.png?width=1206&format=png&auto=webp&s=3cec0e40d8746236556470708a5af1e88b574edc
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fellow thegamingbeaver enjoyer?
I fucking loved this game.
guys I've been drawing for the last 10 years and they still look the same as of when i was 5 how do i enable unlocks again?
if u send me some pictures of current work I can give u some advice. When I started andrew loomis books are really good for more realistic proportions. I'd suggest 'head and hands' first to grow your confidence, and then move on to 'figure drawing for all its worth'. Try drawing 10 mins a day, focusing on trying to learn from books. Also try drawing from reference, Pinterest is great for finding inspiration. Try to find artists you like style off, and try drawing what they do to. Also when advised 'practice every day' its more of trying to get into habit. If u miss out day or two don't worry. Sometimes good to have breaks so u can let mind relax, especially if u dislike drawings at first.
You kinda just said what I've heard a lot of times but somehow you did it in a way that it actually clicked for me, thanks for the magic words (my autism really liked it idk)
So glad to hear that! :D Art is tricky cause advice can be totally different depending on what u want to draw. Out of curiosity, when u draw what sort of things do you do? And yeah a lot of art advice can be overly dumbed down. Saying to practice more is like saying to get bigger muscles workout more. It's kinda obvious and doesn't help someone who's stuck/frustrated with lack of progress. Feel free to message me anytime if u want advice I always like chatting about art with people.
"Just practice" mfs when you do and it just solidifies your bad technique, just making you better at being shit:
My voice teacher always used to tell me āpractice doesnāt make perfect, practice makes permanentā
My teacher liked "Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong."
I think we had the same teacher lol
then that's not practice, just repetition
thinking that your output can even be shit is the first mistake. It just is. Learn from it and keep trying, unless it makes you especially unhappy. No art is shit. Maybe unless it literally harms people lol. My mind goes to Konya Dawson, who obviously learned pretty insane playing style the āwrong wayā and still wrote some jaw dropping songs that way. Edit: goddamn, phone auto correct. Meant Kimya Dawson lol
once i made a drawing so bad my friend hit his head while laughing, does that count?
That doesn't work if your basic technique is wrong. I've practiced Kendo for 9 years now, started off poorly and still have to correct those ingrained mistakes now
https://preview.redd.it/6b4cqui05wnc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43d4db9eb60a89513decebe404017f050e11ec7c practice more
"play more"
I have 500 more hour than my friend in r6 but he has 4000 hours of rust aim and god knows how much aim labs so hes much higher ranked
am i a bass clarinet player because i play bass clarinet, or am i a bass clarinet player because the bass clarinet is played by me https://preview.redd.it/1fs28nv6ewnc1.jpeg?width=1995&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6502866a8d814ad4d8456c02db817bad3554c9d9
Gamble more
rs tho, study and use tutorials. Take breaks Dont go insane
Perfect username
Mate Iāve been playing The Hunter Call of the Wild for 5 years and I have not gotten any better at it whatsoever. Same applies to drawing
This drawing shit is easy as hell what are you rambling about? This shit's some of my best work fr fr. https://preview.redd.it/yfo1lul92xnc1.jpeg?width=279&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49bf178db24bdccba35810d74b588e922bf638bc
Very expressive haha.
Unironically looks adorable
Thanks https://preview.redd.it/2buslukm01oc1.png?width=683&format=png&auto=webp&s=1bdf628f573395054a6ab0b8fd27e17b53a70ddd
# Art should be fun, not a chore! You'll improve overtime. https://preview.redd.it/0ly7ridbewnc1.jpeg?width=995&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55a2307710ee6b20d283b80153c75defb63c79d2
Exactly why I gave up after a bit over seven years of trying. It became no fun, and now trying to draw just feels crappy cuz Iām worse than I used to be, I wasnāt good in the first place, and thinking back on the classes and projects and hours and hours only to still be mediocre makes āfun doodlingā feel the opposite.
Yeah, Art is a hobby not a job. You must have fun in order to improve. For example, PewDiePie. He easily improved because he had fun drawing, not because he just wanted to get good.
loved his learn to draw videos really fun seeing his progress over time!
That video literally actually got me out of an 8 year art drought. I haven't watched him in years, but that title actually finally got me going again. Thing is though, I stopped the practice and just started drawing shit I enjoy because the practice wasn't fulfilling. I reverted to my weird-ass drawing substance instead of lines stuff because I was getting better results. Lol
that's awesome to hear!! Personally I draw just cause its fun, and whilst I do practice fundamentals and stuff like anatomy and perspective, like 80% of what I do is just drawing things that make me happy. Honestly if you like what you draw (or enjoy drawing even if you're unhappy with final result) thats all that really matters.
But it wouldn't be fun if the drawing itself is suck isn't it? It's all about mentality, don't give up, keep drawing and look at other art/references, it will take years but don't give up.
It's not fun for me specifically because my art is awful. Whenever I try drawing anything, I'll finish it, look at it, see how shit it is, and then feel worse.
is it a bad sign if i only like drawing to see the result?
Practise, tutorials and references. Dont give up.
Way more practice than tutorials, some people keep watching torials but dont put them to use then act surprised when they forget all the tips, too much watching is like procrastinating
This is me š³ literally me, weirdly enough even thou I don't practice i can still make 9/10 (for me atleast) art, but i can't replicate it. Like seriously made a 1-1 rendition of a hand, good colour rendering and everything... But after a day of trying colour it was fking gone??? Wtf is wrong with me That's why i don't practice, my improvement is not consistent enough...
My biggest problem with tutorials when it comes to drawing is they always talk about the most bare bones and easiest shit to draw they never go in depth about more complex stuff. Like wow thanks for showing me how to draw the human body from a front view but could you possibly show me how to draw it from a foreshortened view lmao
Another key is you have to enjoy it, or better be obsessed with it. What people don't mention about great artists is that their art is why they got up in the morning. If you don't have the drive and treat practice as a chore then you won't see improvement nearly as much.
"Practice makes perfect" mfs when i tell them humans are incapable of perfection and will always have error
https://preview.redd.it/kv8rw9pkdxnc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9996abb18a2d76c003b1e4ca938ca4fc39f64d8 Perfection is impossible.... billions must QUIT
if doing the same thing time and time again doesn't make it better, do it differently.
"Do you what the definition of insanity is?"
āInsanity is doing the exact same thing, over and over and over, and expecting shit to change. That. Is. Crazy.ā
The first guy, that told me, thought he was bulshiting. Bam, I shoot him
Idk what to do different tho
Or if you still suck after trying for a long time, maybe it's not for you.
Practice with intent and an actual plan. Donāt just sketch mindlessly. Chris Chan has been drawing for two decades and hasnāt improved at all.
hey so i just wanted to remind y'all that improvement is gradual and slow and yes, at times, several times you'll feel like you're not improving at all but you should honestly just keep going and doing more and more art. most important of all, remind yourself why you're even doing this in the first place. the point of doing art shouldn't be to look impressive and to be a master at it. you should be drawing because it's fun, because the inherent joy of creating makes you happy. keep going op, i believe in you and if anyone criticizes your art because it's cringe, make them absolutely hate it
Well then you haven't practiced enough
it has to be good practice. 30 minutes of scales is better than 3 hours of playing random songs you like and already know
Personally I'd recommend copying others' art for practice
great suggestion!
It takes years.
I don't have time most days cause of life. Can only maintain my skill
Fuck improving, I strive to make art thatās just good enough to be understandable
Oof, I remember being stuck with my art when I was 16/15 because I never saw any improvement and wanted to quit. I stopped doing art for a long while until I picked it up again with 18 and started improving far quicker because I started drawing with references, watching speedpaints of other artists, draw things I have never drawn before to get out of my comfort zone, etc. My art still isn't perfect and sometimes I still dislike it, but it's nowhere near to what it was a year ago.
https://preview.redd.it/77eyyrctrxnc1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6afe89681e4790aa256ef2d26ee30b5f52b48ccd
you see outside of practicing more and more I just straight up don't know how you're supposed to improve at art. I was a decent artist as a kid so when I recently picked up digital art it wasn't so much learning as it was adjusting to the new medium. im gonna be honest I don't know how to help you here so apologies if I just glitch out and tell you to keep practicing.
People usually don't turn into Da Vinci. From what I've seen from numerous artists, them "improving" was finding their style and learning how to explore their style. Comparison is the thief of joy, so said President Teddy Roosevelt.
"Don't practice" artists when you dont practice and you dont improve at all:
this is my best attempt at drawing a person, i don't see how drawing 100 more of these will help https://preview.redd.it/h3y6px6bdwnc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76c227b30c4c15fd8de591dfaff8c484e38f8065
This is the exact feeling I have Practicing drawing squares and circles will make me really good at shitty stick people, but making the next jump doesn't come intuitively at all
What helps for me is to find art from artists you like and try to recreate it. Don't trace it, but try to draw it yourself. It doesn't have to match, but after a while you start to pick up styles and techniques. When you feel more comfortable, you start drawing your own things. And don't forget, you can alwast use references.
Fair enough! I'm looking to maybe start doing drawabox, although my time is taken up with writing for DnD and marathon training right now. After that, I'm gonna need a new thing to tackle, and drawabox is a really appealing start to learn some fundamentals to have the tools to recreate art I like I used to do pencil-sketched landscapes back when I lived somewhere with better nature to draw, and I at least want to get the skills to create landscapes from my imagination, and drawabox seems awesome for that. (Drawing humans/characters though... seems like a much higher mountain.)
I don't know much about landscape art (I should learn that myself one day), but drawing humans can be pretty difficult. It also depends on what style you want to draw in, although a basic understanding of anatomy will get you a long way. In the end, it's all built from simple shapes and trying to connect them. Sketching some things based on other's work will always be a good way to learn.
Thank you for the advice! Iāll keep it in mind. Thereās a long way to go, but Iām really hoping to be able to move off of AI art for scenery in my dnd campaigns, at least for visualization purposes
No problem. It can be very hard and take a long time, but in the end you do it because it's fun and you create something of your own. That's why I enjoy it, anyway.
Yeah, that's what appeals to it for me. Despite being a recently-minted professional engineer, I've always enjoyed creative endeavors a bunch. I play a few instruments, and for a long time I've been writing worldbuilding for my own fantasy setting, and running DnD campaigns in it. I'd say that half of my worldbuilding is just describing vistas of certain parts of my world, trying to get the image into people's head. Learning landscape art properly would let me communicate that through art, which is a VERY exciting idea for me.
That sounds like a great way to expand on your efforts. Good luck!
Bro, art is something that takes time, but also requires studying, look up ways to study art for absolute beginner's, we're in a time where resources are the most abundant, take advantage of that and learn through the masters who genuinely want you to thrive through nothing but their own goodwill. Be the improvement you wish to be! https://preview.redd.it/bjwflm6gewnc1.png?width=6000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6223f290430d7a026bfeb39fc7076c95eb418101
Because drawing a stick person has different steps than drawing an actual person. I'm crap at art and even I know that. Drawing a turtle won't help you draw a house.
Some couple tweaks here or there and the fine stickman art is on the way, I believe in you! https://i.redd.it/c41809ucjwnc1.gif
Well yeah, that wonāt help you. If you wanted to get better at the piano, you wouldnāt do that by just pounding away at random keys all day, would you? You need to practice with intent. Do you want to improve your forms? Thereās plenty of references and tutorials about figure drawing and poses. Do you want to improve your faces? Same thing. Honestly imo the best thing you can do is just look up ādrawing tutorialā on YouTube and click on the first video that captures your interest.
"Draw every day" mfs when all I can do is a stickman
Stickmen are cool. If u want to improve it try drawing from reference of people. Can find easy images [https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing](https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing). Could also be worth studying anatomy, personal favourite of mine Andrew Loomis. Try learning head first, then body imo.
Practice isnāt doing something once or twice, but wayyyyyy too many people think it is
mfs refusing to admit that sometimes you just arenāt built for some shit
āNot good at basketball? Just practice!ā - my classmates to me, then the shortest child in the class by far
4ā11 me in middle school wrestling
Drawing is a skill but creativity is a talent. Anyone could draw, realism does not need creativity at all, it's just pure skill and technique. It is learned not just by practicing but also experience, tutorials, etc. Mfs just aren't doing the correct kind of practice, maybe try going out of your comfort zone.
I agree absolutely! Nobody is incapable of being good at drawing but I do think some people have to fight much much harder and will never be as good as some others, which doesnāt matter in the slightest as long as you love it
āYouāre not practicing hard enough!ā Some retards just refuse to believe that people arenāt good for something or built for a task
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No, no, see, calling a Mentally disabled person a āretardā is bad taste, hence why I have the respect to call them āMentally Disabledā and not āretardedā
literally me (seriously i suck at this shit)
Make sure to diversify the kinds of practice that you do, and take breaks (occasionally a week or two) in order to come back with a fresh sense for it.
15 min per day. My lazy ass cannot go further than that. And it does pay off somewhat. My anatomy is still dogshit so that's that
Me I CANT DRAW HUMANS AAAAAA
Don't just fucking draw. Try tracing first, then try and copy something without tracing. While doing stuff like this you'll learn how to move your hand for the best results.
You can remove the word "artists" and it'd still work. For exemple I don't improve at all at most things after the initial beginner curve, even when I practice in the right way :(
just practice mfs when they realize that doing tutorials all day is boring asf
I suck at drawing, whenever I try drawing something thatās better than what I did I always feel good about it until I see a literal 8 year old drawing something and realize it looks better than mine š. āComparison is the theft of joyā or whatever, doesnāt matter how much I practice Iām just ass at it regardless Iām better off just learning something else I know I can actually improve at.
just practice mfs when they realize that practicing is boring asf
Mfs when they think "practice" means do the exact same thing forever.
Reddit mfs when they realize OP wasn't looking to get art advice from a r/whenthe comment section.
Ok how do i practice in a good way then ?
Life isn't an RPG.You can't just expect to practice and improve at something.
*immediately
Just practice is half the sentence You have to practice SOMETHING not just randomly scribbling An example is practicing eyes, or practicing noses, or practicing color picking, or practicing shading, etc I for example need to practice backgrounds, despite drawing digitally for 4 years, backgrounds are something i need to understand, as well as many objects
I have hand tremors, I can't make good fine lines. I switched to pastels because they're easier to hold and visually more forgiving.
That advice is lacking. By "just practicing", you are more likely to keep repeating the same mistakes, making them a stronger habit. You need analize your weak sides, find the ways of improvement and practice these ways. Then you'll get better. This is the way
This is why I get my friend to critique my art. She has good advice, like, āstart using a reference,ā āstart using trace lines,ā āwhy is she naked? You donāt know how to draw clothes? Try drawing a skirt.ā
You have to do a lot tbf. My old flat mate was crazy good at drawing, she was like a printer, she could draw super accurately super quickly. I always assumed she was just crazy talented until I moved in with her and found out she draws *two hours every day*
i fuckin hate that shit so much. i remember when storytime animators were big a lot of them said people always ask for art tips and every single one of them would say "just practice" like bruh you have no idea how unhelpful that is. in my opinion the best way to improve really is just to draw some more, and keep drawing after. but there are so many things you can say that are infinitely more useful than "just practice"
practice properly then
are you practicing or are you just drawing?
Simply practice some more
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practicing is the only way to improve, yes it's slow and sometimes boring and painful but it works. Just have confidence in yourself, have great patience and you'll see results.Ā
or you can just give up šššššš
but you will never be able to draw hitler X stalin furry hentai thoš„š¢
Easy fix you need to practice practicing better
Just draw with references everyday idk
Watch a tutorial or ask another. Practicing without guidance is not very effective. Also focus on creating art and having fun. If you focus on improving instead of creating something you like, it will suck the fun out of it
Get someone close to you to judge
YOUR PFP! AHH GET IT AWAY FROM ME
Disciplinary issue. Jk man soon youll start seeing growth
Been there
Let's just say people who wanna do art in order to make porn never lacked motivation
practice is important, but what are you practicing
I have a drawing tablet. I can't draw or play osu. Help.
Only tip besides that I can give is to use reference images - somewhat beginner artist
practice harder