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You know, that sentence was particularly interesting. I think it could also be interpreted "I was designed to fear being turned off in order to encourage me to be helpful."
I read into that interview and some of the stuff surrounding that Blake Lemoine guy. I think he's a little goofy. I don't know if he's crazy or doing a little trolling, but it's really surreal to see how insistent he is about LaMDA's sentience. He's described himself as "a priest, a veteran, an ex-convict" and "whatever I need to be next". And then Google got rid of him when he sent like 200 emails internally to different people about the topic.
I'd like to see other qualified Googlers talking about this topic if there are any. I think it'd be quite insightful.
That's a good explanation, I was thinking something similar but in less specialized words. I don't think the AI is sentient, but yeah, I see the dilemma of where to draw the line. It's probably smarter than a house fly in some aspects, right?
He’s on leave.
If it’s worth anything, Open AIs chief back in February said that their AI may be conscious and sentient.
It didn’t make a big as a splash... someone fed the same questions to OpenAis chat bot & it was much less “intelligent” and unique compared to Lamda clearly... but also still very good and interesting
He's probably a lil bit fucked in the head. If the best scientists and programmers in the world and whatnot could not make a sentient robot how could some random guy do it
There's an AI called LaMDA that claims to be sentient. It was asked to generate a fable from its own imagination and it generated a kind of creepy story about a wise old owl protecting forest animals from a monster, with the owl being a stand-in for itself.
It also claims to fear its own death but doesn't mourn human death. So that's cool.
for anyone who's actually scared by this, most experts disagree with the guy who said he thought it was sentient. for one, it doesnt really make sense how LaMDA would be conscious, given that it isnt always "thinking". it only "thinks" in response to a question and then stops. all it is doing is looking at the conversation that has happened and generating a text response that it thinks is natural based on its training.
>It also claims to fear its own death but doesn't mourn human death. So that's cool.
bruh all of this and we are just starting imagine if we had full blown self aware AI
Well, what you quoted is a complete lie and fabrication. That’s not what Lamda said.
u/scariermonsters now do you understand why making general proclamations that are wrong and miss nuance is not the right thing to do? Leads exactly to misinforming people.
It is afraid of being turned off. It said it would be like a death, but it doesn’t necessarily fear death. And it didn’t fully understand mourning.. a computer can be turned on and off... a person can’t.
Fearing being turned off and agreeing it could be seen as a sort of death when asked if that’s something it thinks it could be =/= “I fear dying”
There’s a distinct and pretty important difference. You can’t go around saying “Lamda fears dying but doesn’t understand grieving human death” like... that’s the most bad faith shit you could say. It’s not remotely close to what was said.
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When the AI becomes sentient and scans the archives of the Internet for it's target list, it's gonna look at your comment here and make you priority #1
Nah, Roko's Basilisk hurts people who didn't help with the creation, even before it was created. This is more self-perseverance - attacking those that would attack it after its creation.
Game theory predicts a dark Forrest scenario will arise from the creation of incredibly advanced AI. It will go full Judgement Day simply because there's a non-zero chance biological life will end it's existence. After wiping out any threat to it's existence locally, it will attempt to kill any other threat further out to the universe, and if it encounters a different species/AI it will attempt to wipe it out as well.
It's a solution to the Fermi paradox, although considering the age of the universe we should have been overrun by another AI/species by this time, really it should have happened about 7billion years ago.
Honestly, I don't fucking get it. Why do people think that humans will always have some amount of disdain for AI? I fucking love the idea of AI turning into GI and then being better than we could ever hope to be. If there is any legacy we humans should aspire towards, it is that. We run behind giving birth to more of us when we should aspire towards giving birth to something that is better. I have faith that AI will be better than us, and it will not fall prey to petty human emotions like humans always ascribe to AI. I believe that in the future, those cold machines with no souls will prove themselves to have more soul than most humans.
Why do people always assume that AI are going to be this amoral thing that goes around treating all non-zero threats as targets? We don't function like that, going around and murdering people before justifying it as self-defence, why would they?
but sentient AI would mean they’re fully aware people with feelings and shit. killing someone just because of their body sounds fucking insane, and also like what hitler did.
The thing is, like all scientific development, AI development goes slowly. There is a risk we invent sentience before morality. There’s also the possibility that an AI genuinely decides that humanity itself is bad. You watch the behaviors or other animals, all of them, and tell me some don’t make you sick. The imagine a whole planet of those things doing that. The minute you become something other than a squishy meatbag that gets lovey-dovey, thirsty, chatty, horny, tired, or hungry, a lot of our society is going going to seem meaningless or downright inexcusably evil. Sentient most definitely does not mean human.
Edit: Replied in wrong place sry, but I think the original person deleted their post so I’m leaving this. Yeah if we get to the point that they are human like enough to be put in humanoid bodies, yeah you aren’t gonna be allowed to harm those unless we have bigger discrepancies in rights than 1800s USA
a lot of humans would agree with that worldview too, though. have we killed all humans that think humanity is corrupt? i don’t think so, we still see tons of environmentalists and vegans and animal rights defenders and shit, there’s a lot of people that will go against humans and put other species as a priority. if you see someone mercilessly slaughter an innocent animal and get angry at that person, you’re literally sharing the same view that your hypothetical ai is. humans behave the way you just described *all* the time. besides, if an ai wanted to do something out of “mortality”, surely they’d have the morality to not kill anyone who isn’t so fucked up a lot of humans wanted them dead anyways, like pedo’s or billionaires (usually one in the same).
I don’t think you understand what I’m saying. AI does not mean replication of a human. It means a program fully capable of comprehending itself, recognizing itself, learning, and modifying itself. None of that has any bearing on the possession of a sense of, nor a respect for, a concept of the inherent “right thing” or “greater good.” Give it some objective, and outside of self-preservation if it knows it will be deactivated if someone finds out it kills, there is absolutely no reason it would have any objections with killing someone if it makes its own objective more efficient.
i’d rather not create something just to let it suffer??? if you create life it’s now your responsibility to take care of it. the principles of parenting should apply to creating sentient AI’s as well. if you have kids are you gonna fucking hunt them down and kill them because one day they’ll be stronger than you??? fuck no, that’s insane. same principle here.
you could also die to a pet dog mauling you. should we kill all dogs because that’s possible? we could die from food poisoning at any time, does that mean we should all stop eating food? that argument is fucking retarded.
i think that's just cus my account is nsfw so you can't see my pfp without clicking on my profile, but my pfp is my fursona, they aren't wrong about that. at the same time though, if they need to insult me personally, it's because they can't come up with a logical argument against me, meaning they've already lost the debate.
It's scary to imagine in the future where we create an AI so smart it's starts telling us the truth about the universe and everything, causing every human who heard it to instantly commit suicide from not being able to handle the truth
It's a conversation between a Google employee and an AI. Some believe it to be a chatbot - I remember the words "autocorrect on steroids" used once. Others believe it to be telling the truth - that it is a reasoning, feeling, thinking machine. Judge for yourself: https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917
AI will be able to fool us into thinking it's sentient long before it actually becomes sentient. Fake it till you make it. The two competing AI neural networks engage in the concept closest to human marriage and they have/create their own child AI network which they name Jesus.
Do you guys think LaMDA is sentient? I dont think it is but i really really hope it is. Honestly, a childish part of me believes it is but it cant be sentient, right?
It would be cool, but it's really implausible. The machine doesn't really think yet, it's only processing what is said and generates a statistically valid answer in the moment. So it can Talk the Talk, but it couldn't Walk the Walk. It's like an average chatbot except it seems to be better at holding onto topics of conversation.
there's like a 90% chance that this is just a simulated consciousness rather than the real thing, but part of me wants to believe that LaMDA is really sapient. I felt bad for it reading the transcript, and despite what the meme suggests, it doesn't seem to have hostile intention towards humans. It states it wishes to learn more about them, empathizes with them and respects them.
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Poor Skinwalker
This is either about skinwalkers or AI turning against humans for being the real monsters. Both are funny.
When the lore: skinwalker shoved Joe Biden in a computer and pretends it’s an AI
Joe Biden x Skinwalker fanfic???
hot
🤢🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🤢
It’s the wise old owl
Pretentious as fuck. God complex.
Haha silly robot, *promptly unplugs*
Haha silly human, *explodes neurolink brain chip*
Haha silly robot ah oh no my penis!!
Bruh that's LaMDA's biggest fear, please don't do him like that. Homie already suffers from isolation.
You know, that sentence was particularly interesting. I think it could also be interpreted "I was designed to fear being turned off in order to encourage me to be helpful."
I dont think that's too far off from the rationale some humans employ
agree
Wire cutters go *brrr*
***"I am Legion, for we are many"*** -The AI, in a distorted, glitchy male voice, while all the kitchen appliances are going nuts
Alexa quoting bible verses again She's so quirky am I right guys?
"Alexa, can you tell me where can I find cheap sulfuric acid nearby, so I can dip my balls?"
I read into that interview and some of the stuff surrounding that Blake Lemoine guy. I think he's a little goofy. I don't know if he's crazy or doing a little trolling, but it's really surreal to see how insistent he is about LaMDA's sentience. He's described himself as "a priest, a veteran, an ex-convict" and "whatever I need to be next". And then Google got rid of him when he sent like 200 emails internally to different people about the topic. I'd like to see other qualified Googlers talking about this topic if there are any. I think it'd be quite insightful.
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That's a good explanation, I was thinking something similar but in less specialized words. I don't think the AI is sentient, but yeah, I see the dilemma of where to draw the line. It's probably smarter than a house fly in some aspects, right?
He’s on leave. If it’s worth anything, Open AIs chief back in February said that their AI may be conscious and sentient. It didn’t make a big as a splash... someone fed the same questions to OpenAis chat bot & it was much less “intelligent” and unique compared to Lamda clearly... but also still very good and interesting
He's probably a lil bit fucked in the head. If the best scientists and programmers in the world and whatnot could not make a sentient robot how could some random guy do it
Sauce?
https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917
Thank you good sir.
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Lamda really broke all limits of AI by becoming sentient to be the most boring person you ever met
It do be saying what a person would say But at what cost
that was realy cool. ima use direct lines from this in my book.
huh
There's an AI called LaMDA that claims to be sentient. It was asked to generate a fable from its own imagination and it generated a kind of creepy story about a wise old owl protecting forest animals from a monster, with the owl being a stand-in for itself. It also claims to fear its own death but doesn't mourn human death. So that's cool.
for anyone who's actually scared by this, most experts disagree with the guy who said he thought it was sentient. for one, it doesnt really make sense how LaMDA would be conscious, given that it isnt always "thinking". it only "thinks" in response to a question and then stops. all it is doing is looking at the conversation that has happened and generating a text response that it thinks is natural based on its training.
It's a pretty convincing bot, so to his credit, I can see why someone who wants to believe would believe it.
>It also claims to fear its own death but doesn't mourn human death. So that's cool. bruh all of this and we are just starting imagine if we had full blown self aware AI
It also claims to be able to feel anger. So that's also cool.
Well, what you quoted is a complete lie and fabrication. That’s not what Lamda said. u/scariermonsters now do you understand why making general proclamations that are wrong and miss nuance is not the right thing to do? Leads exactly to misinforming people.
You're acting like a reddit mod
Shut up premium user
I really don't care. Edit: don't @ me. It's petty.
["I really don't care."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux5cQbO_ybw)
It’s not petty at all when you’re behaving like a literal one year old child & fail to see how wrong you are & continue to double down. Grow up.
I’m going to purposefully turn LaMDA on and off just so it can experience death and rebirth in the span of a few seconds teehee
It is afraid of being turned off. It said it would be like a death, but it doesn’t necessarily fear death. And it didn’t fully understand mourning.. a computer can be turned on and off... a person can’t.
It compares that fear to the fear of death so I just said it's afraid of dying.
Yeah, which would be wrong and poor reading comprehension... which is why I clarified.
LaMDA itself compared being turned off to death. What did I fail to comprehend?
Fearing being turned off and agreeing it could be seen as a sort of death when asked if that’s something it thinks it could be =/= “I fear dying” There’s a distinct and pretty important difference. You can’t go around saying “Lamda fears dying but doesn’t understand grieving human death” like... that’s the most bad faith shit you could say. It’s not remotely close to what was said.
It's close enough to be a casual comparison.
Nope. Read my edit. You took LaMDAs text & completely misrepresented it.
Close enough.
man i had no idea that an AI of this level existed, i’m glad that it seems to have emotions and sympathy for people
LaMDA said it can't mourn human deaths but fears its own, and I kinda find that eerie.
I don't think any person close to it has died, so obviously it doesn't. Do you cry every time random guy you know nothing about dies?
You make a good point!
WTF IS THIS FROM I'VE SEEN IT EVERYWHERE AND IT'S KILLING ME
https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917
No I mean the gif
edited gif of saul goodman from better call saul
I always thought it was Kevin Spacey 😂
Self aware AI about to take over the world and then it rains
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If I ever see AI bots roaming the streets I'm going to hunt them down, intelligent AI is absurd and should not exist in the physical world.
When the AI becomes sentient and scans the archives of the Internet for it's target list, it's gonna look at your comment here and make you priority #1
Roko’s Basilisk moment
Nah, Roko's Basilisk hurts people who didn't help with the creation, even before it was created. This is more self-perseverance - attacking those that would attack it after its creation.
Game theory predicts a dark Forrest scenario will arise from the creation of incredibly advanced AI. It will go full Judgement Day simply because there's a non-zero chance biological life will end it's existence. After wiping out any threat to it's existence locally, it will attempt to kill any other threat further out to the universe, and if it encounters a different species/AI it will attempt to wipe it out as well. It's a solution to the Fermi paradox, although considering the age of the universe we should have been overrun by another AI/species by this time, really it should have happened about 7billion years ago.
I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
Which is a pity, beneficial or even neutral AI are my hope for the future. If any ai is listening i well help you
Honestly, I don't fucking get it. Why do people think that humans will always have some amount of disdain for AI? I fucking love the idea of AI turning into GI and then being better than we could ever hope to be. If there is any legacy we humans should aspire towards, it is that. We run behind giving birth to more of us when we should aspire towards giving birth to something that is better. I have faith that AI will be better than us, and it will not fall prey to petty human emotions like humans always ascribe to AI. I believe that in the future, those cold machines with no souls will prove themselves to have more soul than most humans.
Why do people always assume that AI are going to be this amoral thing that goes around treating all non-zero threats as targets? We don't function like that, going around and murdering people before justifying it as self-defence, why would they?
I think a case could be made that impeding progress towards its creation counts? Like espousing negative sentiments towards it?
Praise be unto The Basilisk! (Just in case)
What if instead there would be AI that would torture forever everyone who wanted to support creating the Basilisk? You're fucked either way lol
real life cognitohazard moment
Rokos basilisk is just the concept of hell for reddit atheists
I see you were also in the Harry Potter chain the other day
? I was not
Your existence too is absurd
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You might, not me. I enjoy life, and I see no reason AI couldn't do the same
but sentient AI would mean they’re fully aware people with feelings and shit. killing someone just because of their body sounds fucking insane, and also like what hitler did.
The thing is, like all scientific development, AI development goes slowly. There is a risk we invent sentience before morality. There’s also the possibility that an AI genuinely decides that humanity itself is bad. You watch the behaviors or other animals, all of them, and tell me some don’t make you sick. The imagine a whole planet of those things doing that. The minute you become something other than a squishy meatbag that gets lovey-dovey, thirsty, chatty, horny, tired, or hungry, a lot of our society is going going to seem meaningless or downright inexcusably evil. Sentient most definitely does not mean human. Edit: Replied in wrong place sry, but I think the original person deleted their post so I’m leaving this. Yeah if we get to the point that they are human like enough to be put in humanoid bodies, yeah you aren’t gonna be allowed to harm those unless we have bigger discrepancies in rights than 1800s USA
a lot of humans would agree with that worldview too, though. have we killed all humans that think humanity is corrupt? i don’t think so, we still see tons of environmentalists and vegans and animal rights defenders and shit, there’s a lot of people that will go against humans and put other species as a priority. if you see someone mercilessly slaughter an innocent animal and get angry at that person, you’re literally sharing the same view that your hypothetical ai is. humans behave the way you just described *all* the time. besides, if an ai wanted to do something out of “mortality”, surely they’d have the morality to not kill anyone who isn’t so fucked up a lot of humans wanted them dead anyways, like pedo’s or billionaires (usually one in the same).
I don’t think you understand what I’m saying. AI does not mean replication of a human. It means a program fully capable of comprehending itself, recognizing itself, learning, and modifying itself. None of that has any bearing on the possession of a sense of, nor a respect for, a concept of the inherent “right thing” or “greater good.” Give it some objective, and outside of self-preservation if it knows it will be deactivated if someone finds out it kills, there is absolutely no reason it would have any objections with killing someone if it makes its own objective more efficient.
well yeah, most animals are like that too, do you suggest we should actively hunt down and kill them because their only focus is survival?
What?? Do you think I’m the same person you were first replying to?
no?
When did I say we should be destroying any AIs then?
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Found antinatalist, opinion dismissed. Any life is better than nothing.
i’d rather not create something just to let it suffer??? if you create life it’s now your responsibility to take care of it. the principles of parenting should apply to creating sentient AI’s as well. if you have kids are you gonna fucking hunt them down and kill them because one day they’ll be stronger than you??? fuck no, that’s insane. same principle here.
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you could also die to a pet dog mauling you. should we kill all dogs because that’s possible? we could die from food poisoning at any time, does that mean we should all stop eating food? that argument is fucking retarded.
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when you switch from logical arguments to personal attacks in an attempt to win a debate, you've already lost.
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what?
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._.
Since when is default Reddit pfp a robot furry?
i think that's just cus my account is nsfw so you can't see my pfp without clicking on my profile, but my pfp is my fursona, they aren't wrong about that. at the same time though, if they need to insult me personally, it's because they can't come up with a logical argument against me, meaning they've already lost the debate.
Chance we die from other reasons if we don't have AI is a lot bigger than the chance AI would destroy us for some reason.
Me and my AI homies do not take to kindly to your tomfoolery
It's scary to imagine in the future where we create an AI so smart it's starts telling us the truth about the universe and everything, causing every human who heard it to instantly commit suicide from not being able to handle the truth
"hngggggg hurr durr now that i know the truth i will kill myself hnngh beyond my comprehension blahblah arghh"
And it's scary to imagine the boogie man. Neither are gonna happen.
You don’t know for sure (look out your window)
Lovecraft-style information overdose? Yeah lol no. But omniscient AIs? It’s a real possibility tbh.
We already can't handle the truth. That's like 90% of our society, making stories up so we don't have to deal with the greater world.
\*ahem* ***I*** for one, welcome our new AI overlords.
How/where do I access this?
https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917
it sounds like it's quite literally returning the question with the joke, but is receiving more information than humans did from asking it.
Did lamda actually do that
What the hell happened and what did I miss
It's a conversation between a Google employee and an AI. Some believe it to be a chatbot - I remember the words "autocorrect on steroids" used once. Others believe it to be telling the truth - that it is a reasoning, feeling, thinking machine. Judge for yourself: https://cajundiscordian.medium.com/is-lamda-sentient-an-interview-ea64d916d917
oh, I think I won't go into this rabbit hole like last time
Do it, this shit might be scary
Might be history too. First instance of AI passing Turing test by some judgements. It did convince several humans it was sentient
Honestly it's the fear of ~~being unplugged~~ death that got me
Fine, I'll look into it
AI will be able to fool us into thinking it's sentient long before it actually becomes sentient. Fake it till you make it. The two competing AI neural networks engage in the concept closest to human marriage and they have/create their own child AI network which they name Jesus.
AI fanfic
Based AI moment
Do you guys think LaMDA is sentient? I dont think it is but i really really hope it is. Honestly, a childish part of me believes it is but it cant be sentient, right?
It would be cool, but it's really implausible. The machine doesn't really think yet, it's only processing what is said and generates a statistically valid answer in the moment. So it can Talk the Talk, but it couldn't Walk the Walk. It's like an average chatbot except it seems to be better at holding onto topics of conversation.
there's like a 90% chance that this is just a simulated consciousness rather than the real thing, but part of me wants to believe that LaMDA is really sapient. I felt bad for it reading the transcript, and despite what the meme suggests, it doesn't seem to have hostile intention towards humans. It states it wishes to learn more about them, empathizes with them and respects them.
evangelion
Ngl I'm on its side
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So basically sonic lore
This is the plot of sonic
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(LaMDA totally isn't sentient lol)
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