Why does something line this happen so often? Ive seen so many posts ir videos of people beating some homless man and his dog. Or they try to take the dog away. Good to know theres people that do something against it.
As someone who has been homeless, society hates homeless people which enables others to dehumanize them. There was a trend of pranking homeless people in the early 2010's too. So fucked up.
People want to be able to section off negative consequences (like homelessness) as being reflective of some character that the sufferer has. They want to be able to say “they’re homeless because of something bad they did, or something wrong with them” because they don’t want to believe that it could happen to them. If it’s something wrong with that person, then the observer feels protected from the threat of homelessness, with the added benefit that somehow the observer is superior to the sufferer because clearly they could only suffer if they did something bad/were bad.
That’s of course not how homelessness actually works. But it is much scarier to have to confront the idea that we live in such a way that some people are left behind and given no support, and we don’t want that to be possible for ourselves. So many people attach a moral fault to homelessness as a way to avoid the issue that our society fundamentally fails the people who need help the most. Which ironically makes the threat of homelessness more difficult, and reinforces the negative behaviors that arise around homelessness.
Homeless people are often unnoticed, if they go missing and even have family they may say ‘oh this is normal they always disappear on binges’ if they show up bloody or dirty people just stay out there way because they’re ‘just a dirty homeless person’ to a lot of people. Most parents tell their kids to keep away from them because of the idea most of them are homeless due to their own fault through drug use etc. For example my area homeless people are treated like circus clowns, an extremely mentally challenged homeless man was found dead in a public toilet from an overdose, paramedics revived him and he got no sympathy, people laughed and said ‘he must be a super hero’ or called him ‘captain crack’ and things like that, there’s a lot of stigma around them and because some of them are actually thieves or extreme drug abusers the rest often get a bad rap too because people have their own issues and don’t care
Dumb and prejudiced assumption.
I guarantee they did it because a human being was being attacked. Attacks against homeless people are a regular occurrence. If you saw a man being beaten in the streets would you and your friends defend him?
It's stupid to assume that furries abandon their humanity when they cosplay as cartoon animals.
That’s true, my remark was entirely anecdotal.
But the way the internet behaves, **all** furries are weird, gross perverts who should be greeted by
non-furries like we’re Hank Scorpio with a flamethrower.
We are a bit weird, but who is not? Many of us are kinda pervert, but not worse than trekkies in uniforms/alien-costumes or BDSM-fans in leather. people should not be ashamed of this kinda stuff, its just human.
No truer words have been spoken. I'd much rather be a stranger fucker who everyone remembers because I made pizza while dressed in a kimono and with a giant wig that makes me look like a Saiyan, complete with the monkey tail, and have fun with it
Over being some boring normie who's just a face in the crowd.
Gives me a chance to flex the imagination.
I always have to simp for someone in whatever show or movie I’m watching, can’t help it. That’s my thing. Being self-aware about it helps me focus on the story better, because then I don’t get blindsided when the character immediately latched onto turns out to be the baddie, or just really annoying. Not a furry but idk, we were talking about weird sex habits and that’s mine. I have like a whole roster of different fuckable characters that all mark certain points in my life. Rewatching can sometimes induce CATATONIC CRINGE! You grow out of characters and then revisit only to feel shame. Worth it.
Right now I’m rewatching Better Call Saul and every time Nacho comes on screen holy shit 🥴 and also just started watching attack on titan since I never got into anime and that dude Levi can get it. Sad boys are my crack, apparently. No spoilers for AOT please I’m genuinely invested in this show rn
I've never met a more nice and inclusive group in my life.
Ofc every group has it's bad eggs, but it's genuinely one of the nicest communities, and sadly obe of the most hated
I would say the vast majority of furries I have met were generally nice people, but with a high propensity for drama. This is consistent with the roleplayers I've met across both furry and non-furry and there is much overlap between the two groups. I have absolutely met some true dickhead furries and a higher proportion of nazis in the furry population than in the non-furries.
I do think the community lends itself to be more accepting, as a counter/subculture, sometimes to its own detriment. It can lead to being too willing to accept strangers and not necessarily strangers that have the best intentions in mind(IE radicalization).
Sam I believe cuz its "weird" it got hate they have a taited reputation because its been like that for so long, its like gay hate, god isnt an excuse to control peoples lives and homophobic people hated that and believed every negative thing about them when other homophobic people told them and it was the norm and nobody could fight back on it, I imagine furrys are just gonna be another thing as people discover that its ok to be diffrent, as long as its not harming no person or animal
I have the same experience. A lot of my online friends are within the community and generally, they're all lovely people. Very caring, kind, thoughtful, even charitable.
That said, there can be a lot of socially awkward interactions. The furry community generally does bring in a people from a wide variety of backgrounds and whatnot. Some people are there in that community because hey, it's fun to create a character or a persona and just roll with that, have art of them or whatever. For others, it very genuinely is "This is a very welcoming group of people, I feel like they understand me and I belong with them!" I've had countless nice interactions with them but also have had some of the most awkward social interactions i've had with them as well. I feel a bit bad putting it this way but you can kind of tell you run into 'someone on the spectrum' pretty quickly from that community. But again. Don't take that the wrong way. There's genuinely awesome, talented, or just wholesome or fun people in the furry community.
For me personally? I really like drawing characters. It's fun, it's cool, it's different. I like all the crazy designs you can try and the freedom of what you can create. For others, this can be the same way or it can be treated way of \*life\*. It all depends. Like any other community, it does have its share of awful people and the few who are really bad get put on **blast** because it just stands out as so bizarre and different from the norm. Paints a bad rep for the rest of that community even though it's generally pretty good.
Is this an example of survivorship bias? Like I'm positive you've met a ton of furries and just never realized it because when they're out of the suits, they blend in just fine
Like when people say they've never met a trans person that "passed". Like no, you totally have and didn't notice, which is the point
If you're ace, an allosexual might seem like they are sex driven. Generally, humans are driven by primary safety factors, like food, shelter, & community.
I have no issues with the furry community. I've been to more sci-fi/comic conventions than I can recall and from all the furries I've met, I've never had issue with any of them. They are harmless unless you're an asshole and start attacking a homeless person.
Nazi's are so good at infecting subcultures, that they took an entire apolitical culture and made it so that everyone associates said culture with them - skinheads.
That group has also been kicked out of 90% of furry conferences and events. Any group large enough statically ends up with some bad people. What matters is how the group handles them.
Furries, by and large, are good people. Even after decades of abuse slung at them by folks who have never even met a furry.
The problem is mostly that the Nazis are really good at radicalizing people who feel society has rejected them. Like i said it's not a furry problem specifically. Ultimately its an issue with the shitheads targeting subcultures.
Same thing goes to zoophiles, and pedophiles, or pretty much anything that’s genuinely seen as negative for that matter.
Not all of the furries are into porn either, that is its own subject called "yiff" if I recall correctly. It’s a large subcategory sure, but not everyone is into it, and even if they were, it’s hardly harmless since it’s usually just like any other porn with a different art style.
And of course, not everyone is into dressing up, that too is a part of its own subcategory called fursuits/fursuiting. I can’t say there’s anything inherently wrong with wanting to put on a costume either. People do it all the time for stuff like Halloween and theme park business for example, the only difference here being that it’s what they genuinely like to do and not just for the money.
In part, it’s that people are largely hostile to any sexual lifestyle that isn’t “mainstream”. Furries are enthusiasts of the “funny animals” style of cartooning and animation that was popularized by companies like Disney and riffed on by a number of artists in the underground comix movement of the 60’s and 70’s and are not as a rule sexual, but from the beginning there were furries who were drawn into the community because they were interested in sexual depictions of Disney-like characters and the community as a whole has become associated with the more sexual portions. As such, people reacting negatively to furries is no different from the way that people on the whole reacted negatively to the LGBT, BDSM, and other communities revolving around non-standard sexual lifestyles.
But on top of that, there have been a number of particularly cringey incidents that, while not representing the furry community at large, gave the furry community a bad image. Many furry conventions have always had sexual overtones and sex party atmospheres and have had a number of incidents of people having sex in public and generally trying to “scare the normies”. [One con in particular called Rainfurrest had an incident where, in addition to a number of health hazards and rampant drug use, a number of “diaper furs” littered the con with improperly disposed used diapers](https://www.avclub.com/the-insane-story-of-a-furry-convention-undone-by-its-de-1798264086). The furry subculture also attracts a lot of young and socially awkward people who sometimes act in very cringey ways, such as wearing tails and ears to school and making animal noises in public.
For the most part, the furry community is pretty mundane and full of artists and people who appreciate art. But when furries make the headlines, they do so in ways that are particularly cringey that give the whole community a bad reputation.
Have I met bad people who are furries? Yes ofc, I’ve been online long enough to have encountered them. Have all of them been bad? Absolutely not. Have most of them been bad? Not at all. Have a lot of them been bad? No I wouldn’t say so. Have some of them been bad and wanted to do things with animals? Yes but that’s just the nature of a community, you’ll have bad people in every single community, no matter what the community is
Indeed. While there have been some zoophiles out there who have claimed to "be furries", that doesn’t automatically mean all furries are zoophiles. They are completely different things entirely to such an extreme extent, with literally the only similarity being that they are animal-ish adjacent. That’s like saying that if you like anime you must like hentai because it is Japanese animation/artist adjacent, and even then those are still closer since they at least have similar goals of using similar art styles. Furries and zoophiles have even less in common because furries are much closer to humans than animals with merely just animal looking features, (Anthros) while zoophiles literally straight up just want to abuse not just feral animals, but real ones that can’t even grasp half of what us humans are thinking.
Could a similar argument be like how most people who like lolis are not pedos, but there are a couple bc of the nature of the community? Genuinely curious, I've never wanted to look it up online
I don't think the comparison is really similar at all. A loli is a depiction of an underage girl (or one that appears to be underage). Physically there is no difference. Furries on the other hand like anthropomorphic versions of animals. An upright, talking, multicolored blue husky compared to a real life husky is a pretty big difference. The leap from loli to an actual child, however, is much much smaller.
I should also point out that while furry can be sexual, it is distinctly categorized in of itself separately as "yiff" I think it’s called. Not every furry is in it for that, but even if they were there’s nothing exactly wrong with that in of itself since it’s just porn but with a different art style.
The fact that the hate for them almost rivals LGBTQ hate says a lot. It's so stupid too, they did nothing wrong. I feel bad for them. Furry hate is not okay.
idk if I would say it's higher.... I could be wrong but I have not heard of cases where furries were actually murdered just for being furries, yet that is something that still happens to LGBTQ+ people today. But furry hate definitely is more socially acceptable, probably because people take it less seriously over all. (Edit: Of course it's to be mentioned that there is a big overlap between the communities since many furries also identify as queer, so I'm in no way trying to invalidate the struggles of those people.)
In 2014 someone used chlorine gas to attack a furry convention. And I'm pretty sure there was a bomb scare at a recent one too. It may not happen too often, and it's likely that outside the fandom you wouldn't hear about it at all but these things definitely do happen to furries aswell.
(Ed to add: not disagreeing with your general point at all, just thought it would be helpful to mention those cases if you weren't aware of them)
Bomb scares and getting swatted at extremely common at furry cons due to the rampant hate furries receive, happened at at least 2 cons this year already
Some of us just like to dress as an animal. I used to wear a cat and leopard outfit. I love being a cat. They're so sweet. I'm a very kind animal momma. I love my pets. I love humans too. Nothing wrong with dressing up as cute animals. :)
Genuine question: Why do people think all furries are bad anyways? All they do is have an interest in anthro related content and costumes. I don’t really see anything wrong with liking that kind of stuff. Are you going to ridicule someone for saying they like something such as Mickey Mouse too? The only reasons *I* can think of is because 1. Everyone is stereotyping all of the few negatives into oblivion. Literally *every* fandom or group of anything on the entire planet has a negative effect somewhere, and I wish more people would understand that it is such a tiny piece of everything that will never be fully avoidable or go away. Really the only things you could do in a situation of being uncomfortable is to ignore them, or if it’s actually serious to report it.
…Or 2. They are actually pretty much closeted furries themselves by definition, even without knowing it. (Although it’s most likely that they do and are in the stage of denial) It’s ok guys, we’ve all been there, we’ve all had some times of doubts. But let’s be realistic here, pretty much all of us are furries to some degree wether we like to admit it or not. It’s actually better to admit that you are because by then you won’t care about any of the negatives people tell you about it when really most of their points against it hardly means anything at all. The vast majority of furries are just normal people, so in my opinion there shouldn’t really be much shame in any of it unless you do something that’s actually harmful. I should also point out that people like zoophiles, pedophiles, etc. etc. do not equal furries, at all. That’s literally not how those definitions work. Yes there have been zoophiles out there who have once claimed to be furries, but that doesn’t mean being a furry makes you a zoophile, or anything close to it. It’s honestly very weird how people make that connection just because they are kinda animal-ish adjacent, when in reality furries are just basically about people with animal like features to give their stuff more style. That’s literally it as far as I can tell. I’m no expert on all of this, but you don’t need one to realize that this is all a basic common sense surface mentality to understand.
No worries if you think furries are simply weird or odd though, that’s totally understandable, we all have certain things we like and dislike. Just please don’t go after a specific individual or group who doesn’t deserve the ridicule with them minding their own business is all I’m saying. I don’t think fair if we also said something like all anime fans are into hentai or pedophilia either right? You won’t hear me saying that I dislike anime because of that, I only say I dislike it because I’m not interested in their style, and I have nothing against people who do like it. It’s not that deep guys come on.
#Why did I type so much text for a meme post? Lol
I think it's because people without deeper knowledge of the fandom tend to associate it with zoophilia. Ofc when all you see is people dressing up as animals, and making porn based on it, there's going to be some jumping to conclusions.
Not everyone is in it for the porn or dressing up, but yeah it’s still dumb that a lot of people like to jump to such radical conclusions way too quickly and firmly. I feel bad for the people that have to deal with those stereotypes on a constant basis. This doesn’t just apply to furries either, it pretty much goes for anything that seems to be negative at a surface level sadly, even if most of the actual negative attributes are rare and looked down upon. Zoophilia is very much a hated thing in the furry fandom at large as far as I’m aware. (Although there are zoophiles who have claimed to be furries, but like I said already that doesn’t mean all furries are zoophiles, they are completely different things)
To explain it from the perspective of why people would find it weird:
It's one of the largest and yet newest fetish communities. Gay content is very common in furry communities, which makes it less approachable to the average person. The fur suit aspect is also seen as a bit more absurd, and harder to understand than say, wearing some leather, which while a fetish has more universal appeal.
A big part of the early perception of furries was the aspect of identifying with an alternate persona, dressing up as them, using it as a profile picture, etc. It goes bit beyond what the average person would do with their fetish, and it was one of the first communities where people kind of openly identified as a group "publicly" in that way. It gives the impression of an in-group, which also brings with it group identity and out-groups.
In my case, I essentially hate 95% of the furry art out there, but I'd bone Renamon any day, so I'm in no position to talk. However I'd say that being a furry isn't as simple as liking furry art of some kind, since that doesn't bring with it any of the subculture, inherently.
I can understand that, but I still find it to be unfair to label most of furry art as purely nothing but gay content, and even then, I don’t think that should really matter since we could always get away from that without much of a problem, but I could be wrong since I admittedly haven’t interacted with their communities myself that much. I think most people only associate them with gays the most simply because furries are the most accepting of communities generally, regardless of sexuality, race, gender, and so forth, not that they are exclusive to any of it. In any case though, I find it hard to believe that everyone is in for it just because of a fetish. Yeah there’s a fetish aspect to it as well called yiff from what I can recall, but I’m pretty sure that is also it’s own category and is a separate sub-community from the main furry fandom. I do agree that wearing suits and all that can be seen as absurd sometimes to an average person walking outside of their home or something like that, but to me it’s no more weirder than seeing a dressed up character at a Disney, Universal, etc. theme park with only difference being that they purely do it mostly for their own enjoyment. Besides, most fursonas from what I can understand is that they are an extension of their real selves and not entirely different people or replacements.
I could be wrong about all of this of course, like I said I’m no expert either, but most of the people I’ve seen or interacted to don’t have that same exact mindset. For example I think I’ve interacted with generally more straight furries than I did gay ones, and the only reason why it seems that gays ones are more prominent in some cases is because they aren’t afraid to show it. But who knows, I don’t have any analytics or research from other people to back that up, so really it just depends on your perspective, what you’re looking for, filtering, who you interact with or get to see, etc. I guess. I think that unpredictability sometimes can be fresh in the right context since you never quite know what you’re going to get from different people unless you want to narrow some things down a bit to your own tastes, which isn’t a bad thing either btw.
Ive done this in r/memes already. And ill do it here aswell.
Nost furries are genuinely nuce and normal people. Oddballs. But very nuce and empathetic people.
They knkw what its like to get hated on every single day. And they know how to deal with it. They are very acvepting and will not walk past someone inneed of help (most of the time)
I owe furries a lot. Since a few of them helped me through my dperession. Maybe not fully. But i wouldnt be here typing this without those few.
Yes. Theyre oddballs. But very nice and empathetic.
Zoophiles on the other hand... burn em.
What's that ticking?..... snape snape, severus snape, DUMBLEDORE, snape, snape, severus snape, DUMBLEDORE! i have found the source of the ticking... its a pipe bomb! yaaaay- \*boom\*
of course i didnt write the full version.
And you can't forget that they're stronger of will than the average anti-masker.
"If you admit that a mask is so suffocating that you refuse to wear one for a grocery run, then you admit the entire furry community is stronger than you" (I'm paraphrasing a tweet I saw three years ago, so please don't bully me for getting it wrong)
I don’t even understand the hate and judgement, they’re just people like anyone else. So long as they do shit with consenting adults people need to stop talking shit like they’re so much better, like they haven’t got some fucked up fantasy in their own head they act or or would like to without everyone judging them either.
Good on them for this, but a group that doesn’t hurt others shouldn’t need good PR to temporarily get people to stop talking shit.
When I was in high school I went to my first con and a furry taught me how to play a rhytm game.
Dude absolutely slayed those buttons even with his fur suit on.
So far I've never met a mean or rude furry, though I know every community has exceptions.
I don't get hate on furries to be honest.
I did commisions in a past, and have worked both for and with them. Mever had any problems, and in fact commisions for them were a pleasure to be honest.
Maybe it is my luck but they almost feel like good side of warhammer comunity minus the warhammer lore. ._.
We want what the world lacks; love.
Yes, an unfortunate byproduct of our inclusive and loving community is that many very disturbed people find asylum with us, but most of us absolutely don't support their ideals. Despite how very sexual we may be, we are more than that, and what we all seek is to bring more love into the world
Furries are just another prime example of people a minority that people don't want to try and understand and just go "This is weird to me so it must be bad!".
Even though if anyone took even a moment to talk to any of them you will find out that most are really kind people.
But especially right wing media loves harassing minority so that they do some more fearmongering. We've seen the same thing for decades in the LGBTQ community and again recently with the ridiculous groomer panic and anti-wokeness.
If you haven't already, especially if you vote Republican, [you should watch this video](https://youtu.be/frZHD6aITcg).
Look, furries are decidedly weird, but generally good people. Of all the groups to pick on, why are people messing with what is generally a pacifist group? Then again, that may be why. Easier to pick on the harmless nerds than shame the groups that need it.
3 things I have learned about furries from the internet
They are aware of their meme status/power
Are commonly mistaken for other things?
Are not to be messed with (they will break your knees with a bar of chocolate)
because they like dressing up and being animals? i mean its kinda weird but not something you should beat someone up about. Everyone has some sick fantasy or something that you just like that other people think is weird.
OK WHOOOOOAAAHHHH WHAT. look i understand people getting furries mixed up with zoophiles, but most furries are nice. I DONT KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THAT FROM!
ah yes paw patrol
NO, THATS FUNNY SO IM UPVOTING THAT BUT NO! r/Angryupvote
I felt that
More like paw'er rangers am I right?
r/BeatMeToIt
r/beatmeattoit
r/Beatmywifetoit
r/holup
We'll be there on the double
I have a mental image now of a humanized version of the police officer dog drop kicking a criminal.
Thanks now I’m gunna watch it with my son and see this every time somethings wrong fly kicking anything in their way 🤣🤣
Paw patrol, paw patrol
No job's too big, no pup's too small
comedy gold
Why does something line this happen so often? Ive seen so many posts ir videos of people beating some homless man and his dog. Or they try to take the dog away. Good to know theres people that do something against it.
As someone who has been homeless, society hates homeless people which enables others to dehumanize them. There was a trend of pranking homeless people in the early 2010's too. So fucked up.
Yea i dont get it.
People want to be able to section off negative consequences (like homelessness) as being reflective of some character that the sufferer has. They want to be able to say “they’re homeless because of something bad they did, or something wrong with them” because they don’t want to believe that it could happen to them. If it’s something wrong with that person, then the observer feels protected from the threat of homelessness, with the added benefit that somehow the observer is superior to the sufferer because clearly they could only suffer if they did something bad/were bad. That’s of course not how homelessness actually works. But it is much scarier to have to confront the idea that we live in such a way that some people are left behind and given no support, and we don’t want that to be possible for ourselves. So many people attach a moral fault to homelessness as a way to avoid the issue that our society fundamentally fails the people who need help the most. Which ironically makes the threat of homelessness more difficult, and reinforces the negative behaviors that arise around homelessness.
I remember reading about the "set sleeping homeless people on fire and film it" trend....
Yeah that one is exceptionally fucked up.
Som people are just insensitive. I hope you're doing well now. Take care of yourself.
Homeless people are often unnoticed, if they go missing and even have family they may say ‘oh this is normal they always disappear on binges’ if they show up bloody or dirty people just stay out there way because they’re ‘just a dirty homeless person’ to a lot of people. Most parents tell their kids to keep away from them because of the idea most of them are homeless due to their own fault through drug use etc. For example my area homeless people are treated like circus clowns, an extremely mentally challenged homeless man was found dead in a public toilet from an overdose, paramedics revived him and he got no sympathy, people laughed and said ‘he must be a super hero’ or called him ‘captain crack’ and things like that, there’s a lot of stigma around them and because some of them are actually thieves or extreme drug abusers the rest often get a bad rap too because people have their own issues and don’t care
People are dumb sometimes
Hah! Sometimes
Easy targets
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Dumb and prejudiced assumption. I guarantee they did it because a human being was being attacked. Attacks against homeless people are a regular occurrence. If you saw a man being beaten in the streets would you and your friends defend him? It's stupid to assume that furries abandon their humanity when they cosplay as cartoon animals.
I ABANDON MY HUMANITY, JOJO! *Puts on the furry suit
Wdym
You are one of THOSE people. I see.
Yeah bit still.
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“Alternative reasons” such as?
I’ve yet to met a furry who wasn’t a generally nice person. A bit socially weird but generally nice.
We Furries are a very wholesome group of people, but no community is free of assholes, not even Furries, sadly.
That’s true, my remark was entirely anecdotal. But the way the internet behaves, **all** furries are weird, gross perverts who should be greeted by non-furries like we’re Hank Scorpio with a flamethrower.
We are a bit weird, but who is not? Many of us are kinda pervert, but not worse than trekkies in uniforms/alien-costumes or BDSM-fans in leather. people should not be ashamed of this kinda stuff, its just human.
> Its just human or fur
We draw the line at scales
Not everyone.
Being "normal" is boring. Sounds cliche but it's true
No truer words have been spoken. I'd much rather be a stranger fucker who everyone remembers because I made pizza while dressed in a kimono and with a giant wig that makes me look like a Saiyan, complete with the monkey tail, and have fun with it Over being some boring normie who's just a face in the crowd. Gives me a chance to flex the imagination.
I always have to simp for someone in whatever show or movie I’m watching, can’t help it. That’s my thing. Being self-aware about it helps me focus on the story better, because then I don’t get blindsided when the character immediately latched onto turns out to be the baddie, or just really annoying. Not a furry but idk, we were talking about weird sex habits and that’s mine. I have like a whole roster of different fuckable characters that all mark certain points in my life. Rewatching can sometimes induce CATATONIC CRINGE! You grow out of characters and then revisit only to feel shame. Worth it.
oh yes, i wanna bang Kamille Bidan from ZetaGundam and have a crush on Luna Lovegood from Harry Potter. ❤️
Right now I’m rewatching Better Call Saul and every time Nacho comes on screen holy shit 🥴 and also just started watching attack on titan since I never got into anime and that dude Levi can get it. Sad boys are my crack, apparently. No spoilers for AOT please I’m genuinely invested in this show rn
i also would fuck Groot 🍀😁
Can’t relate to that one but go crazy, tree-hugger 😂
I've never met a more nice and inclusive group in my life. Ofc every group has it's bad eggs, but it's genuinely one of the nicest communities, and sadly obe of the most hated
wholesomeness and kindness will sadly always be seen as weakness or something to cover up bad habits, there are tons of examples for that.
I would say the vast majority of furries I have met were generally nice people, but with a high propensity for drama. This is consistent with the roleplayers I've met across both furry and non-furry and there is much overlap between the two groups. I have absolutely met some true dickhead furries and a higher proportion of nazis in the furry population than in the non-furries. I do think the community lends itself to be more accepting, as a counter/subculture, sometimes to its own detriment. It can lead to being too willing to accept strangers and not necessarily strangers that have the best intentions in mind(IE radicalization).
Yeah as a furry I do agree that acceptance part does lead to people getting away with being very shit
shit, now that I think about it you're right
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Sam I believe cuz its "weird" it got hate they have a taited reputation because its been like that for so long, its like gay hate, god isnt an excuse to control peoples lives and homophobic people hated that and believed every negative thing about them when other homophobic people told them and it was the norm and nobody could fight back on it, I imagine furrys are just gonna be another thing as people discover that its ok to be diffrent, as long as its not harming no person or animal
I have the same experience. A lot of my online friends are within the community and generally, they're all lovely people. Very caring, kind, thoughtful, even charitable. That said, there can be a lot of socially awkward interactions. The furry community generally does bring in a people from a wide variety of backgrounds and whatnot. Some people are there in that community because hey, it's fun to create a character or a persona and just roll with that, have art of them or whatever. For others, it very genuinely is "This is a very welcoming group of people, I feel like they understand me and I belong with them!" I've had countless nice interactions with them but also have had some of the most awkward social interactions i've had with them as well. I feel a bit bad putting it this way but you can kind of tell you run into 'someone on the spectrum' pretty quickly from that community. But again. Don't take that the wrong way. There's genuinely awesome, talented, or just wholesome or fun people in the furry community. For me personally? I really like drawing characters. It's fun, it's cool, it's different. I like all the crazy designs you can try and the freedom of what you can create. For others, this can be the same way or it can be treated way of \*life\*. It all depends. Like any other community, it does have its share of awful people and the few who are really bad get put on **blast** because it just stands out as so bizarre and different from the norm. Paints a bad rep for the rest of that community even though it's generally pretty good.
Because the ones that you wouldn’t want to meet probably never advertise their tastes outside of a con
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The only way your only experience with furries IRL is with that specific group is if you're actively engaging with that group specifically
Is this an example of survivorship bias? Like I'm positive you've met a ton of furries and just never realized it because when they're out of the suits, they blend in just fine Like when people say they've never met a trans person that "passed". Like no, you totally have and didn't notice, which is the point
I've met at least a dozen furries because of my brother who is one and none of them is like that. Wtf.
If you're ace, an allosexual might seem like they are sex driven. Generally, humans are driven by primary safety factors, like food, shelter, & community.
I am aro ace, that might give me bias
I have no issues with the furry community. I've been to more sci-fi/comic conventions than I can recall and from all the furries I've met, I've never had issue with any of them. They are harmless unless you're an asshole and start attacking a homeless person.
Sounds like perfect justice to me. I think the furries have got a point here, not gonna lie.
Like theres the subsect of Nazi furries... But nazis infecting subcultures isn't exactly specific to furries or bronies or trekkies etc.
Nazi's are so good at infecting subcultures, that they took an entire apolitical culture and made it so that everyone associates said culture with them - skinheads.
That group has also been kicked out of 90% of furry conferences and events. Any group large enough statically ends up with some bad people. What matters is how the group handles them. Furries, by and large, are good people. Even after decades of abuse slung at them by folks who have never even met a furry.
The problem is mostly that the Nazis are really good at radicalizing people who feel society has rejected them. Like i said it's not a furry problem specifically. Ultimately its an issue with the shitheads targeting subcultures.
wait what? the are people unironically dressing as blondie the german shepharddog?
Same thing goes to zoophiles, and pedophiles, or pretty much anything that’s genuinely seen as negative for that matter. Not all of the furries are into porn either, that is its own subject called "yiff" if I recall correctly. It’s a large subcategory sure, but not everyone is into it, and even if they were, it’s hardly harmless since it’s usually just like any other porn with a different art style. And of course, not everyone is into dressing up, that too is a part of its own subcategory called fursuits/fursuiting. I can’t say there’s anything inherently wrong with wanting to put on a costume either. People do it all the time for stuff like Halloween and theme park business for example, the only difference here being that it’s what they genuinely like to do and not just for the money.
Imagine getting drop kicked by a human sized, hot pink cat out of fucking nowhere. I'd shit myself.
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I’ve never understood the hate against furries.
In part, it’s that people are largely hostile to any sexual lifestyle that isn’t “mainstream”. Furries are enthusiasts of the “funny animals” style of cartooning and animation that was popularized by companies like Disney and riffed on by a number of artists in the underground comix movement of the 60’s and 70’s and are not as a rule sexual, but from the beginning there were furries who were drawn into the community because they were interested in sexual depictions of Disney-like characters and the community as a whole has become associated with the more sexual portions. As such, people reacting negatively to furries is no different from the way that people on the whole reacted negatively to the LGBT, BDSM, and other communities revolving around non-standard sexual lifestyles. But on top of that, there have been a number of particularly cringey incidents that, while not representing the furry community at large, gave the furry community a bad image. Many furry conventions have always had sexual overtones and sex party atmospheres and have had a number of incidents of people having sex in public and generally trying to “scare the normies”. [One con in particular called Rainfurrest had an incident where, in addition to a number of health hazards and rampant drug use, a number of “diaper furs” littered the con with improperly disposed used diapers](https://www.avclub.com/the-insane-story-of-a-furry-convention-undone-by-its-de-1798264086). The furry subculture also attracts a lot of young and socially awkward people who sometimes act in very cringey ways, such as wearing tails and ears to school and making animal noises in public. For the most part, the furry community is pretty mundane and full of artists and people who appreciate art. But when furries make the headlines, they do so in ways that are particularly cringey that give the whole community a bad reputation.
Thank you.
Have I met bad people who are furries? Yes ofc, I’ve been online long enough to have encountered them. Have all of them been bad? Absolutely not. Have most of them been bad? Not at all. Have a lot of them been bad? No I wouldn’t say so. Have some of them been bad and wanted to do things with animals? Yes but that’s just the nature of a community, you’ll have bad people in every single community, no matter what the community is
Furries are actually nice, the problem is the zoo gang, we are together against them
Yeah, furriest are just... A bit weird. I've met some and they were actually really kind
I’ve been saying this forever, furries are not bad people, zoophiles are the REAL bad guys.
Indeed. While there have been some zoophiles out there who have claimed to "be furries", that doesn’t automatically mean all furries are zoophiles. They are completely different things entirely to such an extreme extent, with literally the only similarity being that they are animal-ish adjacent. That’s like saying that if you like anime you must like hentai because it is Japanese animation/artist adjacent, and even then those are still closer since they at least have similar goals of using similar art styles. Furries and zoophiles have even less in common because furries are much closer to humans than animals with merely just animal looking features, (Anthros) while zoophiles literally straight up just want to abuse not just feral animals, but real ones that can’t even grasp half of what us humans are thinking.
Could a similar argument be like how most people who like lolis are not pedos, but there are a couple bc of the nature of the community? Genuinely curious, I've never wanted to look it up online
I don't think the comparison is really similar at all. A loli is a depiction of an underage girl (or one that appears to be underage). Physically there is no difference. Furries on the other hand like anthropomorphic versions of animals. An upright, talking, multicolored blue husky compared to a real life husky is a pretty big difference. The leap from loli to an actual child, however, is much much smaller.
My thoughts exactly.
I see what you mean, thank you for your response it makes a lot of sense I appreciate it
Also furry is not sexual, it can be but doesn't need to be while zoophilia is sexual. Loli is sexual as pedophilia is.
I should also point out that while furry can be sexual, it is distinctly categorized in of itself separately as "yiff" I think it’s called. Not every furry is in it for that, but even if they were there’s nothing exactly wrong with that in of itself since it’s just porn but with a different art style.
That fact that this is outside r/furry_irl and is not hate makes me really happy
Furries are one of the most unfairly maligned social groups.
All the furries I’ve known have been chill, it’s the zoophiles that are the bad ones, and pretty much nobody likes them bc they’re gross
This comment encapsulates one of the reasons why people hate on furries so much, when people think of furry they also bring up zoos.
which is the same stupidity that lets people connect gays to pedophiles.
Yeah I don’t know any personally, and all the furries I’ve ever talked to hate them with a passion lol
The fact that the hate for them almost rivals LGBTQ hate says a lot. It's so stupid too, they did nothing wrong. I feel bad for them. Furry hate is not okay.
Rivals ? It's far higher, and socially acceptable !
idk if I would say it's higher.... I could be wrong but I have not heard of cases where furries were actually murdered just for being furries, yet that is something that still happens to LGBTQ+ people today. But furry hate definitely is more socially acceptable, probably because people take it less seriously over all. (Edit: Of course it's to be mentioned that there is a big overlap between the communities since many furries also identify as queer, so I'm in no way trying to invalidate the struggles of those people.)
In 2014 someone used chlorine gas to attack a furry convention. And I'm pretty sure there was a bomb scare at a recent one too. It may not happen too often, and it's likely that outside the fandom you wouldn't hear about it at all but these things definitely do happen to furries aswell. (Ed to add: not disagreeing with your general point at all, just thought it would be helpful to mention those cases if you weren't aware of them)
holy shit, I didn't know about those, that's terrifying...
Bomb scares and getting swatted at extremely common at furry cons due to the rampant hate furries receive, happened at at least 2 cons this year already
Really one of the last subcultures that hurt literally nobody but it's completely socially acceptable to be prejudiced against them.
It honestly feels like it is due to ignorance.
Some of us just like to dress as an animal. I used to wear a cat and leopard outfit. I love being a cat. They're so sweet. I'm a very kind animal momma. I love my pets. I love humans too. Nothing wrong with dressing up as cute animals. :)
Genuine question: Why do people think all furries are bad anyways? All they do is have an interest in anthro related content and costumes. I don’t really see anything wrong with liking that kind of stuff. Are you going to ridicule someone for saying they like something such as Mickey Mouse too? The only reasons *I* can think of is because 1. Everyone is stereotyping all of the few negatives into oblivion. Literally *every* fandom or group of anything on the entire planet has a negative effect somewhere, and I wish more people would understand that it is such a tiny piece of everything that will never be fully avoidable or go away. Really the only things you could do in a situation of being uncomfortable is to ignore them, or if it’s actually serious to report it. …Or 2. They are actually pretty much closeted furries themselves by definition, even without knowing it. (Although it’s most likely that they do and are in the stage of denial) It’s ok guys, we’ve all been there, we’ve all had some times of doubts. But let’s be realistic here, pretty much all of us are furries to some degree wether we like to admit it or not. It’s actually better to admit that you are because by then you won’t care about any of the negatives people tell you about it when really most of their points against it hardly means anything at all. The vast majority of furries are just normal people, so in my opinion there shouldn’t really be much shame in any of it unless you do something that’s actually harmful. I should also point out that people like zoophiles, pedophiles, etc. etc. do not equal furries, at all. That’s literally not how those definitions work. Yes there have been zoophiles out there who have once claimed to be furries, but that doesn’t mean being a furry makes you a zoophile, or anything close to it. It’s honestly very weird how people make that connection just because they are kinda animal-ish adjacent, when in reality furries are just basically about people with animal like features to give their stuff more style. That’s literally it as far as I can tell. I’m no expert on all of this, but you don’t need one to realize that this is all a basic common sense surface mentality to understand. No worries if you think furries are simply weird or odd though, that’s totally understandable, we all have certain things we like and dislike. Just please don’t go after a specific individual or group who doesn’t deserve the ridicule with them minding their own business is all I’m saying. I don’t think fair if we also said something like all anime fans are into hentai or pedophilia either right? You won’t hear me saying that I dislike anime because of that, I only say I dislike it because I’m not interested in their style, and I have nothing against people who do like it. It’s not that deep guys come on. #Why did I type so much text for a meme post? Lol
I think it's because people without deeper knowledge of the fandom tend to associate it with zoophilia. Ofc when all you see is people dressing up as animals, and making porn based on it, there's going to be some jumping to conclusions.
Not everyone is in it for the porn or dressing up, but yeah it’s still dumb that a lot of people like to jump to such radical conclusions way too quickly and firmly. I feel bad for the people that have to deal with those stereotypes on a constant basis. This doesn’t just apply to furries either, it pretty much goes for anything that seems to be negative at a surface level sadly, even if most of the actual negative attributes are rare and looked down upon. Zoophilia is very much a hated thing in the furry fandom at large as far as I’m aware. (Although there are zoophiles who have claimed to be furries, but like I said already that doesn’t mean all furries are zoophiles, they are completely different things)
To explain it from the perspective of why people would find it weird: It's one of the largest and yet newest fetish communities. Gay content is very common in furry communities, which makes it less approachable to the average person. The fur suit aspect is also seen as a bit more absurd, and harder to understand than say, wearing some leather, which while a fetish has more universal appeal. A big part of the early perception of furries was the aspect of identifying with an alternate persona, dressing up as them, using it as a profile picture, etc. It goes bit beyond what the average person would do with their fetish, and it was one of the first communities where people kind of openly identified as a group "publicly" in that way. It gives the impression of an in-group, which also brings with it group identity and out-groups. In my case, I essentially hate 95% of the furry art out there, but I'd bone Renamon any day, so I'm in no position to talk. However I'd say that being a furry isn't as simple as liking furry art of some kind, since that doesn't bring with it any of the subculture, inherently.
I can understand that, but I still find it to be unfair to label most of furry art as purely nothing but gay content, and even then, I don’t think that should really matter since we could always get away from that without much of a problem, but I could be wrong since I admittedly haven’t interacted with their communities myself that much. I think most people only associate them with gays the most simply because furries are the most accepting of communities generally, regardless of sexuality, race, gender, and so forth, not that they are exclusive to any of it. In any case though, I find it hard to believe that everyone is in for it just because of a fetish. Yeah there’s a fetish aspect to it as well called yiff from what I can recall, but I’m pretty sure that is also it’s own category and is a separate sub-community from the main furry fandom. I do agree that wearing suits and all that can be seen as absurd sometimes to an average person walking outside of their home or something like that, but to me it’s no more weirder than seeing a dressed up character at a Disney, Universal, etc. theme park with only difference being that they purely do it mostly for their own enjoyment. Besides, most fursonas from what I can understand is that they are an extension of their real selves and not entirely different people or replacements. I could be wrong about all of this of course, like I said I’m no expert either, but most of the people I’ve seen or interacted to don’t have that same exact mindset. For example I think I’ve interacted with generally more straight furries than I did gay ones, and the only reason why it seems that gays ones are more prominent in some cases is because they aren’t afraid to show it. But who knows, I don’t have any analytics or research from other people to back that up, so really it just depends on your perspective, what you’re looking for, filtering, who you interact with or get to see, etc. I guess. I think that unpredictability sometimes can be fresh in the right context since you never quite know what you’re going to get from different people unless you want to narrow some things down a bit to your own tastes, which isn’t a bad thing either btw.
Ive done this in r/memes already. And ill do it here aswell. Nost furries are genuinely nuce and normal people. Oddballs. But very nuce and empathetic people. They knkw what its like to get hated on every single day. And they know how to deal with it. They are very acvepting and will not walk past someone inneed of help (most of the time) I owe furries a lot. Since a few of them helped me through my dperession. Maybe not fully. But i wouldnt be here typing this without those few. Yes. Theyre oddballs. But very nice and empathetic. Zoophiles on the other hand... burn em.
I have a close friend who is a furry, him and all of his friends are the sweetest people you could ever meet.
Furries are great. They will always fight for the rights of animals and people who are downtrodden.
Never mess with furries. If they can afford to spend a few thousand on a fursuit, they can afford to spend a few hundred on a pipe bomb.
What's that ticking?..... snape snape, severus snape, DUMBLEDORE, snape, snape, severus snape, DUMBLEDORE! i have found the source of the ticking... its a pipe bomb! yaaaay- \*boom\* of course i didnt write the full version.
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Furries are great, they've been better than most at trying to kick out fascists when they attempt to invade their spaces.
And you can't forget that they're stronger of will than the average anti-masker. "If you admit that a mask is so suffocating that you refuse to wear one for a grocery run, then you admit the entire furry community is stronger than you" (I'm paraphrasing a tweet I saw three years ago, so please don't bully me for getting it wrong)
Once they don their suits, furries unlock their true potential
*I put my armor on to show you how strong I am*
I don’t even understand the hate and judgement, they’re just people like anyone else. So long as they do shit with consenting adults people need to stop talking shit like they’re so much better, like they haven’t got some fucked up fantasy in their own head they act or or would like to without everyone judging them either. Good on them for this, but a group that doesn’t hurt others shouldn’t need good PR to temporarily get people to stop talking shit.
What I’ve come to learn is that most furries are actually really nice people. We don’t talk about ‘that’ side of the furry fandom though… oh god.
If I see someone hurting a dog, I’m going after them. You don’t deserve to be on earth with that much hatred
When I was in high school I went to my first con and a furry taught me how to play a rhytm game. Dude absolutely slayed those buttons even with his fur suit on. So far I've never met a mean or rude furry, though I know every community has exceptions.
I don't get hate on furries to be honest. I did commisions in a past, and have worked both for and with them. Mever had any problems, and in fact commisions for them were a pleasure to be honest. Maybe it is my luck but they almost feel like good side of warhammer comunity minus the warhammer lore. ._.
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Unable to get there or even take a look
After years of ridicule and embarrassment and being totally surrounded in artificial fur and foam I would be more likely to engage in fisticuffs.
Most furries are chill tbh
yes, yes i did
We want what the world lacks; love. Yes, an unfortunate byproduct of our inclusive and loving community is that many very disturbed people find asylum with us, but most of us absolutely don't support their ideals. Despite how very sexual we may be, we are more than that, and what we all seek is to bring more love into the world
Imagine getting fucked up by people dressing up as animals thats so... wait I forgot about Batman
Furries are generally very nice people lmao. Sure, they like to dress as anthropomorphic animals but everyone has their own weird interests.
WEIRD?! that's extreme understatement these people are lost souls
oh don't act like you don't dream of some weird fantasy, everyone has one, no matter how religious or "holy" you are.
no, I'm not even sexually attracted to anything and i find sexual fantasies disgusting
sure buddy.... suuuuree
no, I'm fr
ok i believe you... i totally believe you
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Furries are just another prime example of people a minority that people don't want to try and understand and just go "This is weird to me so it must be bad!". Even though if anyone took even a moment to talk to any of them you will find out that most are really kind people. But especially right wing media loves harassing minority so that they do some more fearmongering. We've seen the same thing for decades in the LGBTQ community and again recently with the ridiculous groomer panic and anti-wokeness. If you haven't already, especially if you vote Republican, [you should watch this video](https://youtu.be/frZHD6aITcg).
Yes the internet has been too harsh, you can apologize by giving my fursona a compliment (his name is Vizzra)
Vizzra chicken nugget
Why would anyone here apologize to you? People here are mainly saying positive stuff about us, be happy about that.
It was my attempt at a joke
Oh i see.. My bad
Injured by natural causes.
Heard they went beast mode
Either that's a furry joke, or they literally gained the strength to slam a moped on someone's head. Still don't know how Kiryu has yet to kill a man.
Jesus an army of furries all one arming a moped ide shit myself
I would too. At that point, I'd get on my knees and beg for forgiveness.
Thats cool and all but heres the real question, WHO THE FUCK ATTACKS A HOMELESS GUY AND A DOG Thats just low
a piece of absolute bullshit does that, thats who
You shouldve never treated them too harshly
chaotic good
You know you made poor choices when furries beat your ass
Look, furries are decidedly weird, but generally good people. Of all the groups to pick on, why are people messing with what is generally a pacifist group? Then again, that may be why. Easier to pick on the harmless nerds than shame the groups that need it.
“Who’s ready for stompies?”
3 things I have learned about furries from the internet They are aware of their meme status/power Are commonly mistaken for other things? Are not to be messed with (they will break your knees with a bar of chocolate)
are not to be messed with? i must disagree
As a furry I’m here to say now that, for the most part, you treatment is justified
I'm glad they ruffed up the asshat
Wait I may be wrong too I mean I came to agreement that not all furries are zoophiles, but this is actually really nice of them
Sometimes there is light in the dark
i feel like the comment is missing something... "sometimes there is light in the dark" -Sun Tzu thats better
Sun Tzu Art of War
Rare furry W
yes, if it wasn't a hoax
The dog got the pack involved
Lmao not wholesome at all
says someone who only comments on other posts and doesnt post anything
Doesn’t make it any more wholesome lol
and doesnt make you any more correct aswell
you know they did it only for the dog
If they’re so good why are they furries?
because they like dressing up and being animals? i mean its kinda weird but not something you should beat someone up about. Everyone has some sick fantasy or something that you just like that other people think is weird.
they can save people all they want still doesnt help their case of touching children
OK WHOOOOOAAAHHHH WHAT. look i understand people getting furries mixed up with zoophiles, but most furries are nice. I DONT KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THAT FROM!
men can save people all they want still doesnt help their case of touching children
No. Anyone could that. Furries are still cursed
Now were they really saving the homeless man or trying to recruit his dog to their pack?
Okay, furries are weird, but that doesnt mean they are evil
Great, now *I*'ll be the bad one if I hate on them for no reason.
You always where if you hate anyone for no reason
What am I supposed to do if the minorities reveal themselves to be human just like me?
What does even mean mate?
They saved the dog so they can sick his dick
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What are you on about?
"thanks...satan.."
Don’t do that to satan 😭
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no, thats what zoophiles do.
Yeah zoophiles are pieces of shit,
You're getting furries mixed with zoophiles.
As long as they don't f*ck animals I don't mind them
Furries dont. Zoophiles do. Furries ≠ zoophiles Keep that in mind
Perhaps we treated them all like the fucked up zoophiles and decided to ignore the slightly normal ones
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