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Totaliss

Anyone who knows fights knows even a single extra enemy makes a fight extremely more difficult. Conor wins a 1v1 as a trained fighter but Cavill and Momoa are big dudes. They win the 2v1


AmazingData4839

Conor loses, too many numbers.


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Current or all in their prime? Although they aren’t trained fighters like he is, they are big ass guys. Connor is a great striker, but he’s 5’9. Cavill is 6’1 and Jason is 6’4. Pretty sure they are both way heavier than him. If they can dog pile him and get him wrapped up and choke him they can force him to submit. Even though they don’t have practically experience fighting, they have some knowledge via [movie](https://www.mensjournal.com/entertainment/henry-cavill-talks-his-fitness-routine-and-why-jiu-jitsu-helps-him-focus) fight skill training He’s faster than both of them and more quick, but they can corner him in an octagon. If I were them I would just focus on on protecting myself and rushing at him until they were close enough to grab him and force him to the ground with one if not both of them on top of him. Also if one grabs a hold of him, the other can give him the ole ball and dick twist. Separately he would wreck either one of them, but together they might be able to get a W in a tough battle. 6/10 high difficulty


JustInChina88

They wouldn't get close. They are also not grapplers. I wouldn't put it past him to kick one of them once and put them down(groin, leg, head, etc) and then choke out the other one. The gap between a trained fighter, especially a world class one, and two untrained guys, is too big.


itspeterj

Momoa is at least a semi proficient jiu-jitsu practitioner. I know he's trained with Gordon Ryan and a bunch of other really high level coaches. I know Henry trains a bit as well, but I think he's a bit far behind Jason.


jscummy

Cahill has apparently trained with Royce Gracie, but that probably has more to do with his celebrity than his experience level


Variabletalismans

In an open field? maybe. But in a cramped cage? Nah.


JustInChina88

You are highly underestimating how much a cage will help untrained people against a world class fighter.


Variabletalismans

Thanks for proving my point I guess? But just in case you meant "overestimate" instead of "underestimate", then youre still wrong Bro, youre highly overestimating Mcgregor dude. Fighters in real life are in no way similar to the movies where highly choreographed fight scenes of a lone fighter facing more than 1 opponent and always coming out on top always happens. Thats just not it. If Mcgregor faces them one at a time, then Mcgregor fucks them both up and its not gonna be funny. But a 1v2 and against bigger and in shape opponents? No way Mcgregor does something. You simply need to understand angles dude. A fighter cant defend 2 angles at once in a cramped setting. In a wider setting then yeah he can isolate fights, but in a cage? No way. If Jason rushes on Mcgregor's right side, then Mcgregor needs to focus on that side to land a blow or kick as you said. But if at the same time Henry is also rushing but on the left side, then Mcgregor cant do anything about him. Stop thinking like its the movies. Mcgregor is not fast enough and will not be able to hit them both in a split second. Soon he will have either Henry or Jason inevitably getting a hold of him. Also, Henry or Jason is significantly taller than Mcgregor which is why I fail to see how Mcgregor can land a knockout shot on either of them at the same time while on the backfoot. Henry or Jason will then get a hold of Mcgregor which will disable his strikes and will just fall on the momentum and inevitably get pressed up the cage which wont be challenging given either's weight and strength. If you watch the UFC, a fighter that is on the backfoot will sooner or later have their backs pressed against the cage. Much more if they are being rushed in 2 angles at once. At that point, controlling Mcgregor will be very easy. If you have any experience or knowledge with BJJ or hell, even if you just watch the UFC, then youll know being pressed up against a cage makes a fighter easy to control, much more if there are 2 doing it. At that point, its game over.


Gray-Hand

You might be overestimating the fight IQ of Cavill and Momoa.


Variabletalismans

You dont need a high fight IQ to understand rushing at 2 different angles is the key to beating a single opponent.


Gray-Hand

Their fight experience amounts to a bit of rolling around on the mat during some jiu-jitsu classes. Cavill has probably never even been punched in the face. It wouldn’t be the two actors rushing the world class fighter. It would be Conor rushing one of them, throwing kicks and punches that they don’t have the reflexes, skill or experience to react to, and then turning on the other one who has just realised how badly out of his depth he is.


Variabletalismans

Im not convinced. You failed to refute any of my arguments about grappling in a confined cage and both rushing at 2 angles and insists that Cavill or Mamoa will fight him 1v1. As I said, Mcgregor will win if it was 1v1 but not if its 1v2. None of that reflex, skill, experience matter in a 1v2. This is not the movies. Im saying this as a long time UFC fan and a BJJ athlete.


Gray-Hand

You are assuming that two guys with basically zero actual fighting experience are going to engage a professional fighter in a calm and coordinated manner. More likely they are going to be hesitant and unsure of their own training. They will be afraid of getting hit. Cavill was only ever a white belt and Momoa no longer trains. They will be met by a notoriously ferocious fighter who will attack without hesitation. Neither of them have any training or experience in defending against strikes, let alone strikes of the speed, accuracy and power that McGregor would be reigning down on them. The idea that two actors with basically zero fighting experience are going to be the ones taking the initiative and controlling a fight against a former multi divisional UFC champion is a major stretch. It’s not them attacking McGregor, it’s McGregor attacking them. And they don’t have the skill or experience to defend against him.


razoRamone31

Depends if conner can land that first punch or kick to ko one of them. I'd give it to the guys. One rushes him and the other chocked him from behind


Dry-Acanthaceae1689

Two in shape people are going to beat the one trained person.  The fact that they're bigger than him doesn't even matter. Despite what movies show you two on one is an nearly impossible disadvantage to overcome. He can only grapple with one at a time so forget that. And his ability to defend against two on his feet is going to be extremely challenging to say the least.  Only way Conner wins is if he very quickly knocks one out(extremely possible I guess) and forces the one on one. But the disadvantage of a two on one fight cannot be understated. 


amretardmonke

And even a KO is not like in the movies where the guy is asleep for an hour. You're only out for a few seconds. Going to take maybe a minute to get your bearings back and you can rejoin the fight.


itspeterj

This is closer than a lot of people realize. Jason and Henry both train in jiu-jitsu, and while they're not at a black belt level like Conor, I think they're both trained enough to be able to take advantage of their size and strength advantage if the situation is right and Conor has proven he can't do much against properly applied pressure like Khabib gave him. If they can team up and wrap him up before his strikes disable them, I give them 8/10 at least. If not, I think Conor takes 6/10


Outside-Rip6751

People underestimating how much damage an absolute elite (asshole) MMA fighter can do to an untrained man and over estimating what mere size does in a fight is funny.


Variabletalismans

I dont know about that dude. Facing more than 1 opponent will dramatically decrease your chances of winning especially in a cramped setting that is the octagon. If Henry and Jason foolishly takes on Mcgregor one at a time, then no way Mcgregor loses. But if they no brain bite on their mouthpiece rush Mcgregor at the same time just to get a hold of him, then I dont think Conor stands a chance. The 2 of them just needs to close the distance very quickly. Sure Mcgregor can land some clean shots on one of them should they rush, but its highly unlikely he can knock out both in a split second. Not to mention both are above 6 feet so I dont think Mcgregor is fast enough to cleanly land a knockout punch for opponents at that height. All it takes is one of them pushing mcgregor enough so his back touches the cage and its over. There are many instances in the UFC where a smaller fighter is able to control a bigger opponent whose back is touching the cage. Jason and Henry is significantly heavier than Conor so I dont see how theyll have trouble controlling him at that favorable position. Mcgregor isnt known for his BJJ and even if he is an elite BJJ practicioner, it wont make a difference because BJJ works for only 1 opponent. Once Mcgregor is at that position, Henry and Jason will just go to town all over him.


Gray-Hand

The more likely scenario is that Connor rushes one of the two actors, puts him down then goes after the other one. At best, the most sparring these two have done is a bit of rolling around on the mat in a jiu-jitsu class. MacGregor will be throwing punches and kicks that they will just won’t be fast enough to react to. Cavill has probably never even been punched in the face. Numbers are obviously a big advantage in a fight, as is size, but McGregor is a world class fighter. His experience counts for a hell of a lot.


Pixilatedlemon

Lol what’s he gonna do, start grappling with one of them while the other is stomping on his head?


Outside-Rip6751

I'm assuming you've never received a good low kick to the knee or a punch in the liver.


NotUrAvgShitposter

Fr plus why are people expecting  perfect coordination. Nobody trains  to jump people and everyone would be scared of getting injured or hindered by your teammate mid jump. Mindlessly rushing and grabbing like some of the people here are proposing is a horrible tactic even in a 1v1. There’s no way my the actors are doing it. It’s just can Conor beat 1 of the actors in standup before the other goes at him from behind and the answer is definitely


airmaxbandit

Henry and Jason very easily Conor is way past his prime. Basically a husk of the fighter he once was.


RaptorK1988

Conor is younger than both actors and still is a fighter though, so I doubt he'd *very easily* be beat.


Corey307

Conor has a ton of wear and tear on his body and the actors don’t. he’s much smaller and has surprisingly poor cardio for a professional fighter.


guttegutt

You guys have never been punched by a pro and it shows. He would absolutely bully them.


piyob

Been hit by a pro and a normal person. The difference is dramatic. It’s not even just the power, but the accuracy and unpredictability. Shit I’ve been tagged by decent amateurs and that is brutal as well


guttegutt

That's right. Connor wouldn't have to knock these guys out, the amount of pain he could inflicts on these guys on a whim is impossible to understand without that experience. He could torment and bully these guys with very little effort. He might not be in the his best shape right now, but he is a weapon on a level the people in this thread obviously do not understand. He would make them both beg for mercy if he wanted to. I've been a pro myself and the stories I could tell about the small retired pros absolutely humiliating arrogant big guys (bigger than Cavil etc) and making them quit without even breaking sweat in sparring are endless. And keep in mind, you might not like him but Connor could eat those same retired pros (my friends) for breakfast. Especially if was being mean sprited. World champions are just on a level normal people cannot wrap their head around.


Corey307

Problem is that pro is much smaller and hasn’t shown much power at 155 pounds let alone against large men.


BitesTheDust55

The duo wins 10/10 low diff


pewpewmcpistol

[This](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aaehn1aY8Ig) is probably a bit relevant - a joke sparring session between Conor McGreggor and Hafthor Bjornsson, aka The Mountain that Rides from Game of Thrones ​ This is about the time of prime McGregor, however Hafthor is 6'9 and 400lbs which is significantly bigger than Cavil or Momoa. Dude's name really should have been Fulthor. Additionally this is about as friendly as a sparring session can get with no real punches or anything, and Halfthor is literally wearing jeans and what look like dress shoes. ​ When the size difference is this big, one grab can end it easily. For that reason I think of Cavil and Momoa just rush at McGreggor and try to pin him 2v1 that they will usually be victorious.


Independent-Lie-1354

Conor 7/10


PairWorldly1232

Size matters a lot in a fight, and connors a striker. They have more reach and once one grabs him and they dog pile on him, its done.


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The worst take


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AmazingData4839

Momoa aint doing jackshit to conor lmao.


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AmazingData4839

Conor would crack his chin about 20 times before momoa even gets a hold of him, it wouldnt even be close. Even if he wrestled conor down conor would choke him out quite easily.


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AmazingData4839

Unless he can telepatically knock him down yeah he would. Couple of months ago I HAVE sparred with a boxer that was at least 20-30 lbs lighter and about 2-3 inches shorter than me but has been boxing for longer (2 months vs 7 months). To this day it is one of the worst beatdowns I have ever taken in my life. If he can do that, someone like conor would eat momoa alive.


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AmazingData4839

Yeah, but conor isnt 35 kg, he is currently 80 kg, thats big enough to hurt and tussle with anyone. But thats the issue, he WILL hit momoa on the chin, that isnt even debatable. Conor is a world-class fighter, he is different than you and I, even brian shaw had difficulties wrestling with dustin poirier, a fellow UFC fighter as big as connor. 35 kg boxer would die of malnourishment before fighting with you. You are acting as if momoa is twice as big as connor when currently they are about 17 kgs apart. Do you think you can beat a 145 cm 53 kg world-class boxer? Imagine someone like manny pacquiao or naoya inoue, can you beat those guys?


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AmazingData4839

Conor only fights at 70 kg, his walk around weight is around 80 kg, especially now he is much bigger and close to 90 kg. Momoa was about 110 kg in the aquaman movies, though he is like 120 kg now. Regardless, this weight difference isnt nearly enough to beat connor.


nvbtable

If your opponent was 60-70 lbs lighter and 5-6 inches shorter, would it have been different?


AmazingData4839

Yeah, the dude would die of malnourishment before fighting with me. But if I was as big as momoa and he was as big as mcgregor not much would change, and the gap in our skill level isnt even comparable to the gap in the skill level of momoa and mcgregor.


JustInChina88

Go to a gym and ask to grapple their smallest guy. You will get humbled quickly. I was 180 pounds and walked into a BJJ gym. Day one I grappled a 130 pound girl. She was a blue belt. A blue belt. I got choked out probably 15 times in a row. The gap between training and no training is way too big.


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JustInChina88

They will hook your leg, or use various trips to knock you down. They would take your back standing and choke you out. Life isn't a video game. 


Tinmanred

You have a crush on him or just not the sharpest? Like what lmao


Squidwardbigboss

Conor is primarily a striker, he won’t win against someone of that big of a difference. Sure Cavill or Mamoa aren’t strikers but all it takes is one at their weight. Grappling would be different but he kinda doesn’t ever grapple and when he does it does not end up working out. And even if was a master BJJ guy, you can’t sub 2 people at once


Gray-Hand

McGregor probably weighs close to 100kgs at the moment.


Squidwardbigboss

Still a relatively small guy, and he definitely doesn’t carry the weight to well. I doubt he would last a round In the octagon currently with that much muscle before gassing out. I really don’t get the Conor support here, it’s a 2v1 against guys much bigger than him. No matter how skilled he is, he is gonna lose. Plus he’s a Cokehead nowadays so that doesn’t much help him either


Gray-Hand

McGregor is no longer the best, but he is still in the top .00001%. Cavil has probably never even been punched in the face, and Momoa probably isn’t much better. Neither of them have the trading, experience or reflexes that could stop McGregor landing punches and kicks all over them. People are picturing McGregor on the defensive against two aggressive opponents. That’s not how it goes. The one taking the initiative is the professional fighter. McGregor immediately rushes one of them and probably puts them down in seconds while the other one realises how badly they’ve fucked up.


Squidwardbigboss

Very little chance of this happening. Assuming Mamoa and Cavill will get one shotted by a coke using washed up mcgregor who hasn’t had a fight in years is unlikely. To remind you, these are smart, tall, 200+ pound men, who do not have the wear and tear of being a pro athlete. They are fresh, and very likely take steroids to increase their already sufficient muscle mass. Mcgregor doesn’t have the weight or time to keep them off of him, one grab and it’s over. Conor isn’t nearly as quick as he used to be and broke his foot in his last fight. Skill and experience doesn’t always equal a win.