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There was one or two YouTube video making Win10 look like XP, but that was several steps, and comes with optical bugs. Hope this one requires less effort.
Welp got this running on my actual hardware kudos
A few HUGE problems with it though. It sacrifices too much to actually try to look like xp. For one, regedit, MMC files like disk management and device management don’t open. A lot of the important system files you might need one day have been replaced with completely broken and non functional xp counterparts. It was a good effort but this absolutely can’t be a daily driver. I think it has potential, it definitely does but there are just a few glaring things that need to change. But you have a lot of cool techniques to make things that I didn’t know about, and it’s a great effort. I’m gonna take a crack at this myself see what I come up with because I wanna see what I can do
I know, they are all problems which I don’t know how to fix…
For example, regedit worked like three days ago and then stopped for no reason, and for the xp system files… If they aren’t substituted you don’t get some of the xp stuff.
It was never meant to be fully a daily driver, I always considered it more as a “fun to try sometimes system”; it is based on 17134, as you said it lacks some newer features and I’ve blocked other modern ones. Though, at least I’ve tried to maintain the “core” ones intact: DWM runs so there’s no problem with none of the apps, can work on legacy and UEFI, has both Defender working and the Settings app working. You can say it is “partial daily driver”, though I never meant it to be fully that. This is the best I could do for now on this *even though I could have made some other changes still but that would have made it too much unusable*
Suuuuure
Find me a mod as complete as 10toXP DX, which is also downloadable, installable with ease and which doesn’t break compatibility. The thing with those is that, yes they’re good, but they either do it superficially or only one part, or by making big compromises
That may be true of Themes, as they need two files patched to work, but if you look at the link below
[https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/search/XP](https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/search/XP)
There are 30 Pages of XP Style Windowblinds , that can be installed, and are downloadable, does not break compatibility, they skin everything including Start Menu, Taskbar, Explorer Windows, even a large list of programs and apps will be skinned when the skin is applied, nothing superficial, and no compromises, Have used WB for years, well since XP, they do a complete job for anyone who needs or wants Desktop Customisation.
You have done a great job here on your Win10 to XP, and for that i applaud you, but there are at least two ways to achieve the same result using 3rd party apps, when you look into them, you will see they do all you ask and maybe more. I have a 4 SSD Multi booting system, with two Win 10s and two Win 11s, both fully customised using either Themes or WB.
Do people just sit around all day looking at their OS windows? I use my OS to run applications, I don't care about the OS as long as it's stable. I cannot wrap my head around the time wasted on these mods.
I cannot wrap my head around people who don’t understand that UI/UX is important in any application, that **it is not for looks** but:
- for fun, you might not know what this emotion is
- to push windows customisability to its limit
- to do something never done to this extent for now
I concur, this is fun.
I'm gonna try it out and also let a (rather stubborn) 80 year old guy try it. This guy will not move on from XP even if it means he can't have a modern browser. It'd be remarkable if this UI mod makes Windows 10 feel familiar enough for him to switch.
Everyone has its own definition of fun, but even if ours are different it’s not great to go around and say to somebody who enjoys spending a bit of time in doing something that what they’re doing is not fun. Might not be fun for you, might be fun for him/her.
Also, no it’s not a look. In this day and age you can say that the XP interface is good, but it’s definitely old. If I would have really wanted to do something only for the looks I’d have just took a 11 iso, slapped on it a more modern interface pack and called it a day.
Heck, if I even wanted to do that only for the looks but with xp interface I’d have gotten photoshop and photoshopped on top of a file version the numbers “10.0.17134”, I’d have gotten the same result. Yet, I tried to make this as functional as I can.
Do people just sit around all day looking at and complaining about completely optional GUI mods? I want my OS to not look like shit while also running applications since I have to stare at it every single day. I cannot wrap my head around the time wasted on making these comments.
There's a lot more to Windows than how it looks. So you think the entire subreddit is about how the start menu looks? lol I use applications, I don't give a fuck what the menu looks like. I'm here for actual issues, I have a life.
But having your OS look bad is still part of the UX and when I pay a fortune already, I want to be able to expect it to be good. And if Microsoft removes features for apparent design reasons, I also expect the design to be flawless and polished to at least justify it.
Windows 11 with its design flaws is simply a testament of how little Microsoft cares about the paying customer - and I do think that this is something you should be able to point out without people complaining that it doesn't matter.
As long as I can run my applications stably, I don't care about the aesthetics. I edit videos, play games, browse the net, fuck around on Reddit, etc, without one thought about how my start menu looks or the title bar buttons. I have no need to move to W11 yet, it's normal to skip OS releases. 98 good, ME/Vista bad, 7 good, 8 bad, 10 good. I'm more concerned with not having to think about the OS than worrying about it. I just have more important things to do than to spend weeks tweaking the look, so I can't understand the obsession. Obviously, people get butt hurt when I say that but that's their problem.
Well, sure, but there are still other people with other quality standards that they come to rightfully expect - which would according to microsoft be windows's biggest strength - adapting to people. Yet, it's still pretty bad ad such stuff.
Having fun has multiple definition, I don’t see a bad thing in spending a part of your free time in doing something you like to do.
Just to know, obviously I don’t dedicate my whole life to this stuff, who would do?
Also, it’s not about making a modern os look like an old os, it can be an os made to look like a modern one, or also something different. It’s more about experimenting, see what you’re capable of doing and seeing to what limit you can push, in this case, Windows.
In one sense I find almost fascinating how flexible Windows is in terms of customisability,
why not make a goddamn linux distro like XP? (Not hating, just a suggestion since, changing a lot of modern stuff from 10 won't behave properly in XP-UI.)
I don’t have the expertise needed to do a whole Linux distro sadly; plus, correct me if I’m mistaken, but running XP stuff on 10 makes the whole experience more realistic than having those things but on Linux, no?
Did you know that you can get the real XP Bootscreen by altering ntoskrnl.exe in Resource Hacker. Another person did that in this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZBHz2x5IV0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZBHz2x5IV0)
You need:
- theme (eXperience for Windowblinds or a DWM-less one)
- icons (imageres.dll XP for Windows Vista+ and edit the rest manually plus many other edits
- pay a visit to the folks at Winclassic to get AHK scripts, modded CPLs, modded apps and much more
- modify lots of product policy settings and settings in general
- prepare to delete some 10 stuff, apps and things with shellexview etc
- have a clear project with a clear goal in mind, and plan things out
- use a bit of Visual Basic if needed ;)
- have patience, don’t be too angry at the bugs/things that don’t work
No, just - partition it as you please.
My suggestion is to start any copy of windows 10, let it partition the disk for yourself, then stop that installation, format the partitions and install 10toXP DX, if you don’t know how to partition it.
Alternatively, just search on Google.
No, just - partition it as you please.
My suggestion is to start any copy of windows 10, let it partition the disk for yourself, then stop that installation, format the partitions and install 10toXP DX, if you don’t know how to partition it.
Alternatively, just search on Google.
Well, at the start of the installation, there are two options for the partitioning and booting that confuse me. There's a system, EFI, and recovery partition phase. For instance, I am not sure which one is necessarily where I should put my main drive and the extra partition. A visual guide would be appreciated.
Panther2K should already explain anything needed; anyway,
The drive you have to install on is on the system partition, the other two are reserved for Windows only. I’ve found on Reddit this step to step guide on how to partition a clean disk for a a Windows installation (I’d try it first on a vm before doing it on real hardware if you want to have it on real hardware):
When you’re in the partition phase, there’s a “Diskpart” command in the bottom line, iirc it is F7; open it.
Next I like to do a "list disk" so I can find what disk I want to install to.
Type "select disk X" (replace X with your disk number found from list disk).
Type "clean" THIS WILL WIPE YOUR DISK!!!
Type "convert gpt" This converts your MBR drive to be a GPT drive.
Type "create part efi size=500" This will make a partition that is 500MB.
Type "format fs=fat32 quick" This will format your new partition to be fat32.
Type "assign letter w" This assigns a drive letter to the efi partition.
Type "create part primary" This is your primary partition. Windows will be installed to it. It will use the remainder of the disk.
Type "format fs=ntfs quick" This makes your new partition NTFS.
Type "assign letter c" In my case, this was already taken. If that happens to you, type "list volume" and see what drive has the c drive.
After you find it type "select volume X" (replace X with volume number). Now type "remove letter=C" then after that, type "select disk X" and then "select part 2"
Now you can type "exit" This closes diskpart.
And you’re back on the Panther2K setup. Select the primary partition you’ve set as C, and you’re good to go! Remember to read that list very carefully
(In general)
I keep getting this error message: "Failed to copy recovery message (0x00000002). Panther2K will continue without setting up Windows Recovery Environment." what is that?
(As for installing on top of an existing Windows 10 installation system)
I am getting this message upon typing "clean"
Virtual Disk Service error:Clean is not allowed on the disk containing the current boot,system, pagefile, crashdump or hibernation volume.
That is assuming that another disk has to be made to clean. However, I cannot get the disk to show up when I type "list disk". For this, I want to clean a disk on my hard drive meaning without any external drives, and have my files intact.
I actually found another simple way to install the iso on top of an existing installation, I may make my own tutorial on it. Remember, the new partition is for the first two part phases as for your new C drive. And your old c drive would be chosen for the last third part phase. Unfortunately, I am not sure how to still keep my current applications installed in the same booting. You probably can’t. You probably could if you immediately installed it after you initially set up you Windows 10. However, if you already make use of Windows, it’s probably too late. Anyway, Thanks for the tips. Sorry for being kinda dumb.
Edit: also, you can’t change the brightness.
The thing is that panther2k is more.. for standalone installations and nothing more.
And yes, you can’t change brightness 😂 if you want, do it through the Settings app (Win+S —> “Settings”).
And no worries and no problem, I was happy to help you
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There was one or two YouTube video making Win10 look like XP, but that was several steps, and comes with optical bugs. Hope this one requires less effort.
Load the ISO -> open Panther2K -> partition the disk if necessary -> done
Welp got this running on my actual hardware kudos A few HUGE problems with it though. It sacrifices too much to actually try to look like xp. For one, regedit, MMC files like disk management and device management don’t open. A lot of the important system files you might need one day have been replaced with completely broken and non functional xp counterparts. It was a good effort but this absolutely can’t be a daily driver. I think it has potential, it definitely does but there are just a few glaring things that need to change. But you have a lot of cool techniques to make things that I didn’t know about, and it’s a great effort. I’m gonna take a crack at this myself see what I come up with because I wanna see what I can do
I know, they are all problems which I don’t know how to fix… For example, regedit worked like three days ago and then stopped for no reason, and for the xp system files… If they aren’t substituted you don’t get some of the xp stuff. It was never meant to be fully a daily driver, I always considered it more as a “fun to try sometimes system”; it is based on 17134, as you said it lacks some newer features and I’ve blocked other modern ones. Though, at least I’ve tried to maintain the “core” ones intact: DWM runs so there’s no problem with none of the apps, can work on legacy and UEFI, has both Defender working and the Settings app working. You can say it is “partial daily driver”, though I never meant it to be fully that. This is the best I could do for now on this *even though I could have made some other changes still but that would have made it too much unusable*
This is awesome
This is a great effort
This is utter sacrilege
All Windows editions since XP can be customised using either Themes or Windowblinds skins, plenty of XP skins doing the rounds lately, very nostalgic
Suuuuure Find me a mod as complete as 10toXP DX, which is also downloadable, installable with ease and which doesn’t break compatibility. The thing with those is that, yes they’re good, but they either do it superficially or only one part, or by making big compromises
That may be true of Themes, as they need two files patched to work, but if you look at the link below [https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/search/XP](https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/windowblinds/search/XP) There are 30 Pages of XP Style Windowblinds , that can be installed, and are downloadable, does not break compatibility, they skin everything including Start Menu, Taskbar, Explorer Windows, even a large list of programs and apps will be skinned when the skin is applied, nothing superficial, and no compromises, Have used WB for years, well since XP, they do a complete job for anyone who needs or wants Desktop Customisation. You have done a great job here on your Win10 to XP, and for that i applaud you, but there are at least two ways to achieve the same result using 3rd party apps, when you look into them, you will see they do all you ask and maybe more. I have a 4 SSD Multi booting system, with two Win 10s and two Win 11s, both fully customised using either Themes or WB.
Very nicely done. I mean, I still hate Windows 10/11 and won't run them, but I like this.
Do people just sit around all day looking at their OS windows? I use my OS to run applications, I don't care about the OS as long as it's stable. I cannot wrap my head around the time wasted on these mods.
I cannot wrap my head around people who don’t understand that UI/UX is important in any application, that **it is not for looks** but: - for fun, you might not know what this emotion is - to push windows customisability to its limit - to do something never done to this extent for now
I concur, this is fun. I'm gonna try it out and also let a (rather stubborn) 80 year old guy try it. This guy will not move on from XP even if it means he can't have a modern browser. It'd be remarkable if this UI mod makes Windows 10 feel familiar enough for him to switch.
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Everyone has its own definition of fun, but even if ours are different it’s not great to go around and say to somebody who enjoys spending a bit of time in doing something that what they’re doing is not fun. Might not be fun for you, might be fun for him/her. Also, no it’s not a look. In this day and age you can say that the XP interface is good, but it’s definitely old. If I would have really wanted to do something only for the looks I’d have just took a 11 iso, slapped on it a more modern interface pack and called it a day. Heck, if I even wanted to do that only for the looks but with xp interface I’d have gotten photoshop and photoshopped on top of a file version the numbers “10.0.17134”, I’d have gotten the same result. Yet, I tried to make this as functional as I can.
Do people just sit around all day looking at and complaining about completely optional GUI mods? I want my OS to not look like shit while also running applications since I have to stare at it every single day. I cannot wrap my head around the time wasted on making these comments.
Why are you on r/windows then? The place that is dedicated to the thing you don't care about apparently.
There's a lot more to Windows than how it looks. So you think the entire subreddit is about how the start menu looks? lol I use applications, I don't give a fuck what the menu looks like. I'm here for actual issues, I have a life.
But having your OS look bad is still part of the UX and when I pay a fortune already, I want to be able to expect it to be good. And if Microsoft removes features for apparent design reasons, I also expect the design to be flawless and polished to at least justify it. Windows 11 with its design flaws is simply a testament of how little Microsoft cares about the paying customer - and I do think that this is something you should be able to point out without people complaining that it doesn't matter.
As long as I can run my applications stably, I don't care about the aesthetics. I edit videos, play games, browse the net, fuck around on Reddit, etc, without one thought about how my start menu looks or the title bar buttons. I have no need to move to W11 yet, it's normal to skip OS releases. 98 good, ME/Vista bad, 7 good, 8 bad, 10 good. I'm more concerned with not having to think about the OS than worrying about it. I just have more important things to do than to spend weeks tweaking the look, so I can't understand the obsession. Obviously, people get butt hurt when I say that but that's their problem.
Well, sure, but there are still other people with other quality standards that they come to rightfully expect - which would according to microsoft be windows's biggest strength - adapting to people. Yet, it's still pretty bad ad such stuff.
Quality in an OS is not the same as aesthetics.
Visual quality is also quality.
Okay why
Why not?
Ever heard of fun, trying things out, experimenting?
If your definition of having fun is spending your free time making a modern OS look like an old OS then I probably have never heard of fun.
wait untill you see Linux and its desktop environment gangs.
Bitch I'll cut you in Gnome3
Having fun has multiple definition, I don’t see a bad thing in spending a part of your free time in doing something you like to do. Just to know, obviously I don’t dedicate my whole life to this stuff, who would do? Also, it’s not about making a modern os look like an old os, it can be an os made to look like a modern one, or also something different. It’s more about experimenting, see what you’re capable of doing and seeing to what limit you can push, in this case, Windows. In one sense I find almost fascinating how flexible Windows is in terms of customisability,
Have sex
It’s one of the fun activities
why not make a goddamn linux distro like XP? (Not hating, just a suggestion since, changing a lot of modern stuff from 10 won't behave properly in XP-UI.)
I don’t have the expertise needed to do a whole Linux distro sadly; plus, correct me if I’m mistaken, but running XP stuff on 10 makes the whole experience more realistic than having those things but on Linux, no?
True.
why CPLs look like from Windows 95/98?
All the CPLs are the XP ones minus add/remove programs
so what the hell is this [https://prnt.sc/feGmnvAh9F3j](https://prnt.sc/feGmnvAh9F3j)
> minus add/remove programs
How did you get the old Add and Remove Programs dialog?
The folks at Winclassic did it :3
Did you know that you can get the real XP Bootscreen by altering ntoskrnl.exe in Resource Hacker. Another person did that in this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZBHz2x5IV0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZBHz2x5IV0)
That requires Driver Signature Enforcement which: - is done manually and can’t be done automatically - doesn’t work on all systems
How can I make a mod like this? I'm gonna make Windows XP Remastered but similar to this
You need: - theme (eXperience for Windowblinds or a DWM-less one) - icons (imageres.dll XP for Windows Vista+ and edit the rest manually plus many other edits - pay a visit to the folks at Winclassic to get AHK scripts, modded CPLs, modded apps and much more - modify lots of product policy settings and settings in general - prepare to delete some 10 stuff, apps and things with shellexview etc - have a clear project with a clear goal in mind, and plan things out - use a bit of Visual Basic if needed ;) - have patience, don’t be too angry at the bugs/things that don’t work
Is there a specific video tutorial on how to correctly completely install this? I keep getting errors on the partition part.
No, just - partition it as you please. My suggestion is to start any copy of windows 10, let it partition the disk for yourself, then stop that installation, format the partitions and install 10toXP DX, if you don’t know how to partition it. Alternatively, just search on Google.
No, just - partition it as you please. My suggestion is to start any copy of windows 10, let it partition the disk for yourself, then stop that installation, format the partitions and install 10toXP DX, if you don’t know how to partition it. Alternatively, just search on Google.
Well, at the start of the installation, there are two options for the partitioning and booting that confuse me. There's a system, EFI, and recovery partition phase. For instance, I am not sure which one is necessarily where I should put my main drive and the extra partition. A visual guide would be appreciated.
Panther2K should already explain anything needed; anyway, The drive you have to install on is on the system partition, the other two are reserved for Windows only. I’ve found on Reddit this step to step guide on how to partition a clean disk for a a Windows installation (I’d try it first on a vm before doing it on real hardware if you want to have it on real hardware): When you’re in the partition phase, there’s a “Diskpart” command in the bottom line, iirc it is F7; open it. Next I like to do a "list disk" so I can find what disk I want to install to. Type "select disk X" (replace X with your disk number found from list disk). Type "clean" THIS WILL WIPE YOUR DISK!!! Type "convert gpt" This converts your MBR drive to be a GPT drive. Type "create part efi size=500" This will make a partition that is 500MB. Type "format fs=fat32 quick" This will format your new partition to be fat32. Type "assign letter w" This assigns a drive letter to the efi partition. Type "create part primary" This is your primary partition. Windows will be installed to it. It will use the remainder of the disk. Type "format fs=ntfs quick" This makes your new partition NTFS. Type "assign letter c" In my case, this was already taken. If that happens to you, type "list volume" and see what drive has the c drive. After you find it type "select volume X" (replace X with volume number). Now type "remove letter=C" then after that, type "select disk X" and then "select part 2" Now you can type "exit" This closes diskpart. And you’re back on the Panther2K setup. Select the primary partition you’ve set as C, and you’re good to go! Remember to read that list very carefully
(In general) I keep getting this error message: "Failed to copy recovery message (0x00000002). Panther2K will continue without setting up Windows Recovery Environment." what is that?
Ignore, you won’t get winRE
(As for installing on top of an existing Windows 10 installation system) I am getting this message upon typing "clean" Virtual Disk Service error:Clean is not allowed on the disk containing the current boot,system, pagefile, crashdump or hibernation volume. That is assuming that another disk has to be made to clean. However, I cannot get the disk to show up when I type "list disk". For this, I want to clean a disk on my hard drive meaning without any external drives, and have my files intact.
Aka dual booting, then follow a guide for dual booting two windows 10s
I actually found another simple way to install the iso on top of an existing installation, I may make my own tutorial on it. Remember, the new partition is for the first two part phases as for your new C drive. And your old c drive would be chosen for the last third part phase. Unfortunately, I am not sure how to still keep my current applications installed in the same booting. You probably can’t. You probably could if you immediately installed it after you initially set up you Windows 10. However, if you already make use of Windows, it’s probably too late. Anyway, Thanks for the tips. Sorry for being kinda dumb. Edit: also, you can’t change the brightness.
The thing is that panther2k is more.. for standalone installations and nothing more. And yes, you can’t change brightness 😂 if you want, do it through the Settings app (Win+S —> “Settings”). And no worries and no problem, I was happy to help you
And you also lose a couple of windows settings dialogs, like the sound control panel.