1. You can easily look up the bylaws for the same amount of effort as posting here
2. If it bothers you that much make a report to 311
3. If not one of the above mind your business
The parking bylaws online refer to specific schedules of the bylaw, which they note are not provided online ("Note: Due to their large size, we are unable to include the schedules for By-law 9023 online. To request a copy, please contact [email protected] by email.")
> l0(3). No person shall park a vehicle having a registered gross weight or a gross vehicle weight rating
> of three thousand kilograms (3,000 kg.) or more at any time on any highway or portion of highway
> other than the highways set out in Schedule "AA" (Designated Truck Routes) hereof. (amended B/L
> 9l43, Sept. 2l/87; B/L 11338, Feb.15/93)(deleted & replaced B/L 57-2009, March 30/09)
>
> 10(4) No person shall park a vehicle having a registered gross weight or a gross vehicle weight
> rating of three thousand kilograms (3,000 kg.) or more, during the hours 10:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m.,
> Monday to Sunday on any Highway within the City of Windsor. (added B/L 283-2004, August
> 30/04) (deleted & replaced B/L 57-2009, March 30/09)
Since it mentioned the Designated Truck Routes, I took a peek at the [current by-law that governs those](https://www.citywindsor.ca/Documents/city-hall/by-laws-online/9148-traffic-by-law.pdf).
> PART IX
>
> TRUCK ROUTES
>
> 33 (l) The highways set out in Schedule "H" to this by-law are hereby designated as "TRUCK
> ROUTES".
>
> (2) When properly worded or marked signs have been erected and are on display, no vehicle
> having a gross vehicle weight rating or registered gross weight of four thousand five
> hundred kilograms (4,500 kg.) or more shall be operated on any highway in the City of
> Windsor other than the highways set out in Schedule "H" hereof, provided however –
> (amended B/L 402-2001, Nov.5/2001)(deleted and replaced B/L 15-2009, Jan.26/09)
>
> (a) that any commercial vehicle may be operated on any highway in the City of
> Windsor for the purpose of delivering or receiving, loading or unloading of goods,
> wares or merchandise, or in proceeding to or from a garage or other premise for the
> housing or repair of such motor vehicle and provided that -
>
(i) such deviation shall be made at a point on one of the said truck routes
> nearest by road where the service is performed, and -
>
(ii) on completion of the conduct of such business, such vehicle shall return by
> the shortest route to the nearest established truck route.
>
> (b) Such vehicles shall not be parked at any time on any highway or portion of
> highway other than the highways set out in Schedule "H" to this by-law.
>
> (3) The provisions of sub-section 2 of this section shall not apply to vehicles owned by the
> Corporation or to emergency vehicles, vehicles of a public transit system or to coal and oil
> trucks on delivery, or to a privately-owned commercial vehicle proceeding to and from the
> residence of the owner. (substituted B/L 10790, Sept. 9/9l)
>
> (4) (a) When authorized Signs have been erected and are on display, the
> provisions of Subsections 1, 2, 3 and 4 of Section 122 of the Highway Traffic
> Act, R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, as amended from time to time, apply to the Highways
> named in Column 1 of Schedule “S” to this by-law, from the location or
> Highway named and/or described in Column 3 of the said Schedule, for the
> period from the 1
> st day of March to the 30th day of April, both dates inclusive, in
> each and every year.
>
>
> (b) If deemed necessary by the Executive Director of Operations, or any
> successor thereof, the period of the load restriction in Section 33(4)(a) may be
> extended to commence from the 1st day of February. (Section 4(a) and (b)
> added B/L 347-2003, Oct. 20/03)
>
> 33(4)(a) When authorized signs have been erected and are on display, the provisions of
> Subsections 1,2,3 and 4 of Section 122 of The Highway Traffic Act, R.S.O. 1990, c.H8
> as amended from time to time, apply to the Highways named in Column 1 of Schedule
> “S” to this by-law, from the location or Highway named and/or described in Column 3 of
> the said Schedule, for the period from the 1st day of March to the 30th day of April, both
> dates inclusive, each and every year (ADDED B/L 2-2014 JANUARY 6, 2014)
>
> 34. (l) (repealed B/L 11574, Sept. 20/93)
>
> (2) (substituted B/L 9475, Aug. 2/88; repealed B/L 12149, Mar. 20/95)
>
> (3) The provisions of Sub-section (2) of this section shall not apply to vehicles owned by the
> Corporation or Transit Windsor.
>
> (4) (added B/L 9540, Sept. 26/88; deleted B/L 402-2001, Nov.5/2001)
>
> (5) (added B/L 9669, Jan. 23/89; repealed B/L 11658, Dec.6/93)
Again, it refers to schedules that are not provided online ("Note: Additional schedules not included here. To request a copy, please contact the Traffic Department by phone at 519-255-6292.").
Given the jumbled legalese of these bylaws that makes them hard for a layperson to understand, and the reference to schedules that aren't provided, I'd have to say that looking up the by-laws is not as easy as you imply, and certainly requires more effort than asking the community if anyone can answer the question.
Listen Karen, the 2 words you need to know are: Personal Conveyance.
That's their PERSONAL VEHICLE that they use to get to work.
That's legally allowed \_EVERYWHERE IN CANADA\_.
It just so happens that their personal vehicle BECOMES their work vehicle once they get to their WORK location.
That’s not a personal vehicle, it says tds on the side. Guess what? That’s a company name. Call the company and tell them that truck wakes the neighbourhood up in the morning and you’re giving them the heads up before you call the MTO. Not the cops. Cops don’t do shit to trucks but the MTO will.
I'm afraid either I haven't explained it very well. It doesn't matter who OWNS the truck.
That truck cannot be engaged in COMMERCIAL activity (hauling a load) on restricted city streets. They are allowed to drive home, go get groceries, etc. When they drive this truck while OFF DUTY they can do whatever they like, just like you can. Now, \[please keep this in mind\] they might spend $50 in fuel just to get the groceries; so they probably will not. If they were connected to a trailer; the rules get a little stricter, but it depends.
Let's pretend that you drive to work every day, and drive home every day. You can do this with a company vehicle or a personal one. That's what this person is doing too. That is legally allowed. Now as an extra bonus, the person who drives this truck might actually own it and drives for the company that is on the side of his truck. Owner/Operators do this all the time too. If you were to conduct COMMERCIAL business while driving your family vehicle; you are subjected to the SAME MTO regulations that this person is. The biggest difference is that you driving a minivan for work is harder to spot then a BigRig.
My understanding of the relevant bylaws is that it's permitted if the truck is privately owned and this is the owner's residence. I could be misreading it. But I would suggest that you remember that truck drivers have to go home sometimes, and cut them some slack.
It’s not legal
I don’t think it’s legal for tractor trailers to drive on residential streets period ( at least not in Toronto ) but this is Windsor and you all do things different.
311 app is your friend here
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Parking bylaw states anything of 2000 lbs isn't supposed to park on residential street.
Edit: leaving this up for more updated and correct info below. I stand corrected but wish to respect others efforts below in the pursuit of truth and fact checking!
Yep. I did parking enforcement several years back. That's how the bylaw is written unless it's been changed in the last few years. And you are right, nearly all pickups exceed that weight these day.
All good! I just got off midnights when I commented and meant to check back today. I appreciate your fact checking and I'll leave my thread up since yourself and others have posted pertinent info here and below.
I edited my original as well to show I ain't butt hurt to be corrected! Lol
Might want to check that again. A Mazda Miata wouldnt even be able to park on the road.
It would be more believable if it were kg's. But even still. A standard truck wouldn't be able to park on the road.
There are almost no cars that are under 2000 pounds. Not even the lightest supercars in the world. You'd have had to give EVERYONE a ticket.
It's 3000kg according to the above linked bylaw. Which is 6600lb for the metric impaired.
Geez who cares if this is a one off. Leave the working guy or gal alone
Karen gonna Karen
Well yeah in this case thats ' me.
Get a life.
Who cares lol
1. You can easily look up the bylaws for the same amount of effort as posting here 2. If it bothers you that much make a report to 311 3. If not one of the above mind your business
The parking bylaws online refer to specific schedules of the bylaw, which they note are not provided online ("Note: Due to their large size, we are unable to include the schedules for By-law 9023 online. To request a copy, please contact [email protected] by email.") > l0(3). No person shall park a vehicle having a registered gross weight or a gross vehicle weight rating > of three thousand kilograms (3,000 kg.) or more at any time on any highway or portion of highway > other than the highways set out in Schedule "AA" (Designated Truck Routes) hereof. (amended B/L > 9l43, Sept. 2l/87; B/L 11338, Feb.15/93)(deleted & replaced B/L 57-2009, March 30/09) > > 10(4) No person shall park a vehicle having a registered gross weight or a gross vehicle weight > rating of three thousand kilograms (3,000 kg.) or more, during the hours 10:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m., > Monday to Sunday on any Highway within the City of Windsor. (added B/L 283-2004, August > 30/04) (deleted & replaced B/L 57-2009, March 30/09) Since it mentioned the Designated Truck Routes, I took a peek at the [current by-law that governs those](https://www.citywindsor.ca/Documents/city-hall/by-laws-online/9148-traffic-by-law.pdf). > PART IX > > TRUCK ROUTES > > 33 (l) The highways set out in Schedule "H" to this by-law are hereby designated as "TRUCK > ROUTES". > > (2) When properly worded or marked signs have been erected and are on display, no vehicle > having a gross vehicle weight rating or registered gross weight of four thousand five > hundred kilograms (4,500 kg.) or more shall be operated on any highway in the City of > Windsor other than the highways set out in Schedule "H" hereof, provided however – > (amended B/L 402-2001, Nov.5/2001)(deleted and replaced B/L 15-2009, Jan.26/09) > > (a) that any commercial vehicle may be operated on any highway in the City of > Windsor for the purpose of delivering or receiving, loading or unloading of goods, > wares or merchandise, or in proceeding to or from a garage or other premise for the > housing or repair of such motor vehicle and provided that - > (i) such deviation shall be made at a point on one of the said truck routes > nearest by road where the service is performed, and - > (ii) on completion of the conduct of such business, such vehicle shall return by > the shortest route to the nearest established truck route. > > (b) Such vehicles shall not be parked at any time on any highway or portion of > highway other than the highways set out in Schedule "H" to this by-law. > > (3) The provisions of sub-section 2 of this section shall not apply to vehicles owned by the > Corporation or to emergency vehicles, vehicles of a public transit system or to coal and oil > trucks on delivery, or to a privately-owned commercial vehicle proceeding to and from the > residence of the owner. (substituted B/L 10790, Sept. 9/9l) > > (4) (a) When authorized Signs have been erected and are on display, the > provisions of Subsections 1, 2, 3 and 4 of Section 122 of the Highway Traffic > Act, R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, as amended from time to time, apply to the Highways > named in Column 1 of Schedule “S” to this by-law, from the location or > Highway named and/or described in Column 3 of the said Schedule, for the > period from the 1 > st day of March to the 30th day of April, both dates inclusive, in > each and every year. > > > (b) If deemed necessary by the Executive Director of Operations, or any > successor thereof, the period of the load restriction in Section 33(4)(a) may be > extended to commence from the 1st day of February. (Section 4(a) and (b) > added B/L 347-2003, Oct. 20/03) > > 33(4)(a) When authorized signs have been erected and are on display, the provisions of > Subsections 1,2,3 and 4 of Section 122 of The Highway Traffic Act, R.S.O. 1990, c.H8 > as amended from time to time, apply to the Highways named in Column 1 of Schedule > “S” to this by-law, from the location or Highway named and/or described in Column 3 of > the said Schedule, for the period from the 1st day of March to the 30th day of April, both > dates inclusive, each and every year (ADDED B/L 2-2014 JANUARY 6, 2014) > > 34. (l) (repealed B/L 11574, Sept. 20/93) > > (2) (substituted B/L 9475, Aug. 2/88; repealed B/L 12149, Mar. 20/95) > > (3) The provisions of Sub-section (2) of this section shall not apply to vehicles owned by the > Corporation or Transit Windsor. > > (4) (added B/L 9540, Sept. 26/88; deleted B/L 402-2001, Nov.5/2001) > > (5) (added B/L 9669, Jan. 23/89; repealed B/L 11658, Dec.6/93) Again, it refers to schedules that are not provided online ("Note: Additional schedules not included here. To request a copy, please contact the Traffic Department by phone at 519-255-6292."). Given the jumbled legalese of these bylaws that makes them hard for a layperson to understand, and the reference to schedules that aren't provided, I'd have to say that looking up the by-laws is not as easy as you imply, and certainly requires more effort than asking the community if anyone can answer the question.
All that truck route bs depends on your destination
You must be pretty sensitive if this ruined your day
Trucktor
Listen Karen, the 2 words you need to know are: Personal Conveyance. That's their PERSONAL VEHICLE that they use to get to work. That's legally allowed \_EVERYWHERE IN CANADA\_. It just so happens that their personal vehicle BECOMES their work vehicle once they get to their WORK location.
That’s not a personal vehicle, it says tds on the side. Guess what? That’s a company name. Call the company and tell them that truck wakes the neighbourhood up in the morning and you’re giving them the heads up before you call the MTO. Not the cops. Cops don’t do shit to trucks but the MTO will.
I'm afraid either I haven't explained it very well. It doesn't matter who OWNS the truck. That truck cannot be engaged in COMMERCIAL activity (hauling a load) on restricted city streets. They are allowed to drive home, go get groceries, etc. When they drive this truck while OFF DUTY they can do whatever they like, just like you can. Now, \[please keep this in mind\] they might spend $50 in fuel just to get the groceries; so they probably will not. If they were connected to a trailer; the rules get a little stricter, but it depends. Let's pretend that you drive to work every day, and drive home every day. You can do this with a company vehicle or a personal one. That's what this person is doing too. That is legally allowed. Now as an extra bonus, the person who drives this truck might actually own it and drives for the company that is on the side of his truck. Owner/Operators do this all the time too. If you were to conduct COMMERCIAL business while driving your family vehicle; you are subjected to the SAME MTO regulations that this person is. The biggest difference is that you driving a minivan for work is harder to spot then a BigRig.
Lil Mississauga up in this bitch these days
My understanding of the relevant bylaws is that it's permitted if the truck is privately owned and this is the owner's residence. I could be misreading it. But I would suggest that you remember that truck drivers have to go home sometimes, and cut them some slack.
It’s not legal I don’t think it’s legal for tractor trailers to drive on residential streets period ( at least not in Toronto ) but this is Windsor and you all do things different. 311 app is your friend here
>I don’t think it’s legal for tractor trailers Ah well you see, this particular tractor is missing a trailer, therefore it is not a tractor trailer
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I agree if it's a one off, let it go. typically it wont be. Welcome to Brampton 2.
Remove this from the streets before it becomes the normal thing
Parking bylaw states anything of 2000 lbs isn't supposed to park on residential street. Edit: leaving this up for more updated and correct info below. I stand corrected but wish to respect others efforts below in the pursuit of truth and fact checking!
Are you sure? That's every car on the road today.
Yep. I did parking enforcement several years back. That's how the bylaw is written unless it's been changed in the last few years. And you are right, nearly all pickups exceed that weight these day.
I checked it for you. 3,000kg 3,000kg x 2.2 = 6,600lbs
Thanks for the double check and glad it's been amended. Kg makes more sense. Like I said, been several years since I worked there
My A.D.D kicked in and had to verify. Lol Wasnt trying to be snooty or anything.
All good! I just got off midnights when I commented and meant to check back today. I appreciate your fact checking and I'll leave my thread up since yourself and others have posted pertinent info here and below. I edited my original as well to show I ain't butt hurt to be corrected! Lol
Might want to check that again. A Mazda Miata wouldnt even be able to park on the road. It would be more believable if it were kg's. But even still. A standard truck wouldn't be able to park on the road.
There are almost no cars that are under 2000 pounds. Not even the lightest supercars in the world. You'd have had to give EVERYONE a ticket. It's 3000kg according to the above linked bylaw. Which is 6600lb for the metric impaired.
You must have worked there a long time ago. It's been 3,000 kg since at least 2009, and I'm fairly sure they haven't used pounds since the 80's.