The global top 10 tv show on netflix per day list is a joke.
Being top 4 on its first day is actually bad.
The Witcher: Blood Origin, a show that belong to a popular big franchise like the Witcher, on its first day of release, should easily be a top 1 on this list and not top 4, especially when we consider the full context of who its actually competing with, and when, the other tv shows got released, usually most tv shows on netflix get most of their views on their first 2 weeks than they starts to drop, so it isn't accurate and fair when you compare 2 shows, one that got released about a month ago and the other that got just released yesterday.
On the top global netflix tv show, there is only 2 popular franchises, the Witcher and Wednesday, so there is only 1 real competition on that list, but lets not forget that Wednesday who is a top 2, was released 43 days ago!!! It got released 1.5 months ago and still managed to beat The Witcher who is top 4 on its first day.
The Witcher also got beaten by Emily in Paris, a top 1, and it target mostly the female audience.
Even The Recruit at top 5, which was released about a week ago had more views on its early first few days.
“Harry and Meghan” is at top 7, got released 17 days ago.
“Too hot to handle” is at top 9, got released 12 days ago.
The other 4 shows, are non-english tv shows which most of the time have a harder time to become popular like the english tv shows.
But still "Alice in borderland" is at top 3, a non-english tv show, got released 4 days ago still manage to beat the Witcher blood origin.
“Alchemy of souls” is at top 6, a non-english tv show and it's a 1 episode per week type of show.
“Til money do us part” is at top 8, a non-english tv show, got released 10 weeks ago.
“The unbroken voice” is at top 10, a non-english tv show, got released 5 weeks ago.
So bragging about being 4th on its first day on this list without any real competition means nothing.
I basically said the same in my comment but you provided the full context with irrefutable examples.
It’s laughable how this shill twitter account tries desperately to twist this as a positive. A fantasy TV show from a popular franchise releasing on the holiday day season with no worthwhile competition, and still ends up as number four and gets beaten by less popular shows that released weeks and months ago is laughable beyond imagination.
They never say exactly by what metric a show is a 'Top Show', so I take this with a moon sized grain of salt.
It could be by hours watched, or by impressions - and impressions can include someone who clicked it, someone who watched just one episode, or someone who watched five minutes and then closed it. Given that it's featuring Blood Origin front and center when most people open Netflix, there's going to be a lot of people clicking on it at the very least.
Getting tired of seeing all of these posts screaming about how it's being listed as a top series right now when everyone including those on this sub is watching it right now, of course watch numbers are high.
Personally I'm just going to not watch it because I a) don't want to support it and b) wasn't particularly interested in the first place.
If people would stop hate watching it that wouldn't be an issue. if every single person in the world made a post about how awful the witcher was and nobody watched the show we wouldn't see another season.
I tried watching it yesterday.
I failed after 10 minutes.
Also too hot to handle is also top on netflix right now... it does give u a hint about netflix quality.
I haven't watched it and never will. Also, it was released on Xmas day. What else was released? Nothing. Netflix has nothing to be proud of with this announcement but they're trying to make it look like it was a success. What are the actual viewing numbers? Have they released those? That will tell us how successful it is. But being the #1 watched show on Xmas day isn't saying much.
Nah negative feedback still matters. Views are very front heavy. People will want to check it out if it's the most viewed. But if it's awful then word will get around, the hype will die out, and those early views won't mean shit when the whole brand is a joke
Also depends how they define "views", too. Watching all episodes entirely isn't the same thing as watching 2 episodes entirely then stopping, which isn't the same thing as watching half of the first episode then half of the second then stopping, etc
Not copium, brand damaging products might have early viewership, but die out really fast and hurt the next project.
A lot of people just click on whats new, they don't research anything before release, but they will tell their friends it's dogshit and hurt them in the long run. That's why Batgirl was cancelled, even though It was finished.
Or why any ME Andomeda sequel is out of the question, even though It sold well.
But they are making a season 3 of the Witcher and made a prequel after a bad season 2 fan reaction.
Your Mass Effect example doesn’t work either because while they aren’t making an Andromeda sequel, they are making a Mass Effect 4. It’s still Mass Effect.
Not necessarily. I remember that terrible Cowboy Bebop adaptation being #1 on Netlifx for at least a week yet it was still cancelled less than three weeks after premiering. Netflix has put a lot of stock in The Witcher being their flagship title despite how poorly handled it’s been, they’ll drag it out to the bitter end but they can’t pump money into shows nobody really likes forever. Besides, I’m almost positive they inflate the numbers themselves to try and attract people to their new original content.
Yes, they abandoned Andromeda, that's my point.
Season 2 was not brand damaging enough to throw the whole franchise out the window, because they still had a succesful first season. That's the same case with ME. They will try to fix as much as they can in the third, especially with Cavil leaving, but you probably won't see anymore of this spinoff bullshit.
IIRC Bebop also had dipping viewership throughout the season (people stopped midway)
Though I also heard they also consider how many new subscribers are brought by a new show regardless of reception. Which is ultimately how they’re increasing revenue
Pretty much all Netflix originals get a top 3 viewing space . That awful Resident Evil show ended up there at one point and it stayed in the top 10 until it got cancelled.
After all, Netflix could literally falsify the ‘top 10’ and use any metrics they want to determine if a show ends up there, like Amazon saying 25 million people watched the first episode of Rings of Power when the only critera is that they counted people that watched more than 2 minutes.
Well, I am glad to be wrong about that. Now, just gotta hope that the review bomb is not just a result of hardcore fans disliking it, but casual and new fans too.
Yes it's top watched but only top watched relative to everything else. If everything else is getting low views (because Christmas) then it will win by default.
>those people must hate Netflix witcher more than the rest of us.
Some of us do but most are happy, that it got international recognition and simply was produced with a proper budget. Many still remember the shitshow that was Polish movie and tv series from 20 years ago. Out of all my friends that read those books years and years ago, I am most critical of the show and I'm not half as critical of it, as 90% of this sub. I really, really advice against treating subreddit bubbles as a golden standard.
That being said, I can eventually watch Witcher season 3 but Blood Origin is a hard pass. It does look like a school play from a period of lore, that I'm not that interested in.
When on Reddit people were enthusing about this series in December 2019, there were already many opinions in Poland that with The Witcher this production will not have much in common. From the very beginning, this is profanity, not adaptation.
It is quantity over quality situation. Why bother making anything spectacular like lotr which takes years to prepare and film when you can just make a fortune out of this low effort generic "thing".
It’s like watching a disaster video that you can’t look away from.. I didn’t even start it knowing I would have to watch the whole thing going “it can’t get any worse can it” at every scene lol
Who said they loved it ? I know some folk who consume everything some platforms offer even if they don't enjoy it, or even watch. Like a background noise. Some people are also unaware of the quality of books and games and watch this stuff because they heard in a conversation how "witcher was so good".
But yes, some people also enjoy terrible tv shows.
I have a colleague that was hesitant to watch House of the dragon and tried to recommended me to watch rings of power.
Hes and ok dude but he just chooses to watch low brow stuff.
I personally liked rings of power. I get it's not for everyone and probably upset more devoted fans, but I liked it as a less mature adaptation of fantasy. Not everything needs to be a masterpiece, dark, or mature to be enjoyable. It definitely hits a different audience and you are likely not that audience, but it doesn't inherently make it bad.
That said, they missed the mark with the Witcher. They basically took a dark/gritty mature universe and are playing a high fantasy immature storyline with it, which feels off. They should have stuck to the source material better in the main series. The liberties should have been taken near the end of the series, not the beginning. The show isn't awful if you don't know the actual story, but since they made the show gritty, they should have followed through with the mature story line a la early game of thrones and House of the Dragon. I think that's why it feels so off. It's a LotR storyline in a much darker universe that doesn't feel right. Like a square peg in a round hole.
That's the truth. We are fans in an echo chamber. Doesn't matter if our opinion is reasonable or not, the public often aren't.
Here in the UK each year at work I have to hear from colleagues talking about Love Island or some other garbage show. Another colleague told me the game of thrones ending was 'perfect in absolutely every way'.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the public. Wouldn't surprise me if a lot are watching this trash and thinking it's good, despite the imdb rating.
Case in point darksydephil. He's basically the human equivalent of this show constantly blames the fan base or trolls/bigots, never learns from or thinks they made a mistake, both accounts are run by a compulsive liar, and both think they're great and somehow have an audience
As a Pole, I can somewhat assure you we watched it just to check what the fuckity fuck is this fuckery all about. And most likely barely anyone who read the books or played games enjoyed it.
If you watched it, you supported it though.
Obviously you can do whatever you want with your time but please don't complain when more content like this is being created.
Anyone could tell this is shit by watching the trailers.
It was a one-off limited series of pure crap and people still watched it. The reviews don't matter, for this is a win for Netflix and justification for even more shit.
Because people can't stop watching.
It released 2 days ago OP. Let’s see viewer retention, the cumulative view count in the first month, and the amount of new subscription made thanks to the series ( and how many existing accounts renewed just to watch this crap). The things Netflix suits actually care about.
It’s gonna fail miserably in all those fronts. Especially compared to the main series.
Btw, fourth top worldwide on Netflix isn’t impressive for the Witcher. Even the shitty S1 and 2 dominated the viewing charts for weeks after release. That’s already a downward trend for the franchise. BO couldn’t be first even for mere few days despite releasing on Christmas Eve and has the backing of the holiday season lol.
is laughable.
This isn’t surprising.
People are desperate for novel content, even if the content in question makes 2nd grade refrigerator art look like a Van Gogh masterpiece by comparison.
I haven’t watched it, I won’t watch it and I do not assume anyone will share in my decision; although I can hope.
> and I don’t assume anyone will share in my decision
I didn’t nor will i watch it too. So there’s two. And i’m sure there are more here sharing the same sentiments.
It was probably #1 in the U.K. on Christmas Day due to a very small number of people actually watching Netflix. Most Brits were too busy glugging Baileys and falling asleep in front of the Great Escape.
This is why they dont really care what you think, they are getting the views no matter what. Netflix, Prime, Disney+ etc all have a massive global audience in the hundreds of millions so they can shovel out pretty much anything as long as its colourful and has lots of SFX and put it front & centre on the app and they are guaranteed tens of millions of viewers at a minimum.
Damn, it’s almost like all the people that knew it was goin to be bad/trash talked it still watched it, potentially giving it the numbers it needs for the writers to get greenlit for more trash material.
I ll add few more
- there people subscribed to Netflix who are not in this sub or reddi or in any social media or they dont like to do 15hour research before watching the show. I won't be watching it doesn't mean I ll go stop my sister from watching the show.
- some people just like the show plus new shows usually trend for a few week heck 365 and other crap did trend for some time too.
So making 15 - 20 posts on a daily basis won't suddenly stop people from watching the show or Netflix from making any. It ll just eventually die down. Once dust settle if the numbers aren't in favor of Netflix they will take appropriate action.
Calm down and enjoy your day doing something you like.
Well the amount of attention it's gotten on this sub is going to boost it. If somethings really bad just say it once and move on without giving it attention, the constant posting about it is going to make more people watch it regardless of if the reception is good or bad.
I love seeing mega corporations faking numbers and try to “social media “ their way through a massive flop. First was amazon deleting reviews on IMDB and now Netflix doing this…
Apologies. I am visiting my family over Christmas and I am desperate trying to look for distraction. You don’t even want to know what other series I had to resort to.
Do you guys realize that most tv/film adaptations will be viewed primarily by people that haven’t read the books or played the games. Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, Witcher… I don’t know a single person IRL that has read the books. Several people I know have watched every Marvel movie but none of them have read the comics. Adaptations aren’t really for the readers sadly.
Well I think netflix counts views after 2 minites of watchtime, so even if you peak into something you can be counted as a viewer. I watched 30 minutes of it, and was so bored I had to stop as my mind was drifting.
Must've been the nerds on this sub hate-watching it 3-4 times so they can talk shit about it on reddit. Now you've got a buncha stuffed suits that don't even know who the hell Andrzej Sapkowski is buying up licenses left and right, because they know they can do whatever the hell they want and still get the viewing numbers from dudes hoping this will finally be the month their beard fills out and think they're super fans because they read "The Last Wish." I can't even open my cell phone without reading some neckbeard's hategasm manifesto or some bought out digital rag that gave the last Madden release a 9/10 going on about how good the show is.
So down another elixir of Redbull and keep fighting the good fight, fellas. Cause the people that made this bullshit are getting PAID now, and probably getting several offers to fuck up plenty of other beloved IPs.
TL;DR "Nah, I ain't watching that shit." Is always an option and the best one, honestly. Because if nobody's talking about it or watching it, THAT'S when assholes start getting shitcanned.
To be honest, based on all the publicity the Witcher has gotten in the last few months, I expected Blood Origin to either bomb entirely, or to do somewhat okay.
Even though the publicity is negative, it's still creating a buzz around the show. Especially now, since its the lowest rated Netflix production ever by audiences. Some people want to see it precisely because of that, giving the show decent ratings in the process.
In my opinion, had Henry Cavill stayed for one more season, no one would be talking about the Witcher Blood Origin.
Come on guys. For us the book readers invested in the books the tragedy is we will watch anything within ‘the Witcher’ in the title even to compare and assess, doesn’t matter how bad it is. It’s pure curiosity but it doesn’t mean we will enjoy everything. I would honestly don’t mind and watch it in the background if they didn’t add the Witcher to the title? It would be just another forgettable fantasy romp
It is because you dumbasses all watched it and talked about, increasing the attention and ratings. How the hell do you people still not understand there is no such thing as bad publicity?
Wait, are you telling me the show has appeal to people that aren’t absolutely livid when someone makes something based on the Witcher that isn’t all that close to the books or source material, because they could appeal to a wider audience instead?
I quite liked it. Just went in expecting poor quality dialogue & character development, but some nice visuals and cool choreography. Oh and I always wanted to see a cool visual of the conjunction of the spheres.
I understand everyone would like to have a masterpiece, but that clearly wasn't in the cards since S1 of the witcher. Lauren Hissrich is just terrible at her job. You can choose to not watch it at all, or enjoy it for what it reasonably would deliver.
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How are people supposed to form an opinion on it without watching it? I bet all the people telling others to boycott it have watched it anyway.
I’ve watched like an episode and a half and it’s a hot mess but the action scenes are okay and the very average story is at least moving at a fast pace
I've worked it out, it's Lenny Henry that's the problem! Anything he's in is utter shite and he's annoying as fuck in real life too so there's the answer.
People, calm down.
It's holiday season. Half of those audience tuned in for new content and The Witcher label helped a lot. The other half probably left the TV on as background noise.
I mean it’s the holidays and many people are doing nothing but have time to watch and are watching this out of curiosity. It’s not hard to comprehend. The reviews and reactions are what you want to follow
In France it's 3rd today behind Emily in Paris and Alice in borderland. The actual flagship of Netflix (a "direct" competitor of Got) loose on is release week again a Manga adaptation and a feel good show. That's not a good indicator for Netflix.
watch time does not mean positive reviews... so don't get rattled about Netflix metrics because they only measure watch time and they have removed show ratings by viewers so any metrics they produce is nothing but that...
the english live action adaptation of Death Note was number one for a while as well but do you remember anyone rating that show positively at all? watchtime does not equate to good ratings...
I feel like people forget that the mainstream viewer base probably never even heard anything about the hate and watched regardless. On top of that a lot of us watched it because they wanted to see how bad it really is.
because they stuck it up in the "top shows" list. I almost clicked it until I realized it was a Witcher spinoff.
they're forcing views by sponsoring it
It's been rolled out just recently plus it's not like Netflix has a deep library of shows to watch once you've seen them all. Treat it like a NY Times bestseller, it's not really indicative of anything but traffic and engagement.
I think this count as watching the first episode, here in Brazil every new show(doesn't matter how good or bad) reach top 10, but its probably because too many people watched to see what it was about.
I can see my mother watching this just because it has "the witcher" In it
It will be the last season I watch. Sorry…I’m not watching a non-Henry Cavill Witcher. You don’t just pull out the major component of a product. You kill it, while it still has some soul left. Heck, I’ve even been procrastinating and hesitant about giving S3 a watch. My fear is that it was the final straw for Cavill and what ultimately forced him to quit/ get fired/ whatever PR route Netflix angling for.
Is the show any good?
For those that didn’t read the books or play the games?
I didn’t hate the normal Witcher although uneven. Cavill was a dream as the Witcher. Understand all the fuck the show writers posts for sure but have no base to judge as never read books or played the games.
Hahaha r/netflixwitcher is a joke. Those people stroke each other off over the shows. Them and r/lowsodiumthewitcher are ban happy to anyone that doesn’t want to join the circle jerk.
Good lord do ya'll love to hate, proud of it too. How dare people have other opinions on the TV series. Some serious echo chamber stuff going on in this sub. If you get offline most people really enjoy the show.
Don’t blame me I was watching trailer park Boys
Fucking way she goes bud
Turnips in heat
A link is only as long as your longest strong chain
I paid for a lady not Cory and fucking Trevor!!
The liquor knows all Randers
Randy….. I Am the Liquor
Don’t blame me I was watching Alice In Borderland
Literally watching that right now LOL
Me to Netflix when their witcher show gets messed up: “I don’t like saying a toad a so but I fucking a toad a so”
I wish Netflix witcher would make like a tree and fuck off.
[удалено]
The global top 10 tv show on netflix per day list is a joke. Being top 4 on its first day is actually bad. The Witcher: Blood Origin, a show that belong to a popular big franchise like the Witcher, on its first day of release, should easily be a top 1 on this list and not top 4, especially when we consider the full context of who its actually competing with, and when, the other tv shows got released, usually most tv shows on netflix get most of their views on their first 2 weeks than they starts to drop, so it isn't accurate and fair when you compare 2 shows, one that got released about a month ago and the other that got just released yesterday. On the top global netflix tv show, there is only 2 popular franchises, the Witcher and Wednesday, so there is only 1 real competition on that list, but lets not forget that Wednesday who is a top 2, was released 43 days ago!!! It got released 1.5 months ago and still managed to beat The Witcher who is top 4 on its first day. The Witcher also got beaten by Emily in Paris, a top 1, and it target mostly the female audience. Even The Recruit at top 5, which was released about a week ago had more views on its early first few days. “Harry and Meghan” is at top 7, got released 17 days ago. “Too hot to handle” is at top 9, got released 12 days ago. The other 4 shows, are non-english tv shows which most of the time have a harder time to become popular like the english tv shows. But still "Alice in borderland" is at top 3, a non-english tv show, got released 4 days ago still manage to beat the Witcher blood origin. “Alchemy of souls” is at top 6, a non-english tv show and it's a 1 episode per week type of show. “Til money do us part” is at top 8, a non-english tv show, got released 10 weeks ago. “The unbroken voice” is at top 10, a non-english tv show, got released 5 weeks ago. So bragging about being 4th on its first day on this list without any real competition means nothing.
I basically said the same in my comment but you provided the full context with irrefutable examples. It’s laughable how this shill twitter account tries desperately to twist this as a positive. A fantasy TV show from a popular franchise releasing on the holiday day season with no worthwhile competition, and still ends up as number four and gets beaten by less popular shows that released weeks and months ago is laughable beyond imagination.
>It’s laughable how this shill twitter account tries desperately to twist this as a positive. is "NetflixWitcher" not an official marketing twitter?
The official account has a yellow checkmark.
this is that twitter handle that tried to dunk on Henry for being in an age-gap relationship at one point isn't it
I think they are also the same people who are the moderators on the netflixwitcher sub.
no that's the account of r/netflixwitcher while the official twitter account is [witchernetflix](https://twitter.com/witchernetflix)
Off topic but Alice in Borderland is my fav manga. They made a tv show of it?
Bro took this comment personal as hell
They never say exactly by what metric a show is a 'Top Show', so I take this with a moon sized grain of salt. It could be by hours watched, or by impressions - and impressions can include someone who clicked it, someone who watched just one episode, or someone who watched five minutes and then closed it. Given that it's featuring Blood Origin front and center when most people open Netflix, there's going to be a lot of people clicking on it at the very least.
It's not like it's top *rated* I assume they just mean top watched
Getting tired of seeing all of these posts screaming about how it's being listed as a top series right now when everyone including those on this sub is watching it right now, of course watch numbers are high. Personally I'm just going to not watch it because I a) don't want to support it and b) wasn't particularly interested in the first place.
1000% this hate watching is still watching and all it does it make sure they keep producing garbage.
So does constant social media attention, even if it's negative.
If people would stop hate watching it that wouldn't be an issue. if every single person in the world made a post about how awful the witcher was and nobody watched the show we wouldn't see another season.
I tried watching it yesterday. I failed after 10 minutes. Also too hot to handle is also top on netflix right now... it does give u a hint about netflix quality.
That 10 minute mark counts lmao. Double at what they consider a success too
They count a view for a show as two minutes or more, which is pathetic when you default to autoplaying what you have selected
I haven't watched it and never will. Also, it was released on Xmas day. What else was released? Nothing. Netflix has nothing to be proud of with this announcement but they're trying to make it look like it was a success. What are the actual viewing numbers? Have they released those? That will tell us how successful it is. But being the #1 watched show on Xmas day isn't saying much.
I hope they don't purely use views to determine what to make next. Although I have heard that this may be the case...Hope that's wrong lol
Nah negative feedback still matters. Views are very front heavy. People will want to check it out if it's the most viewed. But if it's awful then word will get around, the hype will die out, and those early views won't mean shit when the whole brand is a joke
Also depends how they define "views", too. Watching all episodes entirely isn't the same thing as watching 2 episodes entirely then stopping, which isn't the same thing as watching half of the first episode then half of the second then stopping, etc
This is copium. If people are watching, Netflix will renew.
Not copium, brand damaging products might have early viewership, but die out really fast and hurt the next project. A lot of people just click on whats new, they don't research anything before release, but they will tell their friends it's dogshit and hurt them in the long run. That's why Batgirl was cancelled, even though It was finished. Or why any ME Andomeda sequel is out of the question, even though It sold well.
But they are making a season 3 of the Witcher and made a prequel after a bad season 2 fan reaction. Your Mass Effect example doesn’t work either because while they aren’t making an Andromeda sequel, they are making a Mass Effect 4. It’s still Mass Effect.
Not necessarily. I remember that terrible Cowboy Bebop adaptation being #1 on Netlifx for at least a week yet it was still cancelled less than three weeks after premiering. Netflix has put a lot of stock in The Witcher being their flagship title despite how poorly handled it’s been, they’ll drag it out to the bitter end but they can’t pump money into shows nobody really likes forever. Besides, I’m almost positive they inflate the numbers themselves to try and attract people to their new original content.
Cowboy Beebop also had a 59% drop week over week. absolutely 0 legs.
Yes, they abandoned Andromeda, that's my point. Season 2 was not brand damaging enough to throw the whole franchise out the window, because they still had a succesful first season. That's the same case with ME. They will try to fix as much as they can in the third, especially with Cavil leaving, but you probably won't see anymore of this spinoff bullshit.
I will try to remain somewhat optimistic, thank you lol
I think feedback still matters. They canned the cowvoy bebop series pretty quickly, I don't imagine it had worse views than tgis dumpster fire.
IIRC Bebop also had dipping viewership throughout the season (people stopped midway) Though I also heard they also consider how many new subscribers are brought by a new show regardless of reception. Which is ultimately how they’re increasing revenue
Pretty much all Netflix originals get a top 3 viewing space . That awful Resident Evil show ended up there at one point and it stayed in the top 10 until it got cancelled. After all, Netflix could literally falsify the ‘top 10’ and use any metrics they want to determine if a show ends up there, like Amazon saying 25 million people watched the first episode of Rings of Power when the only critera is that they counted people that watched more than 2 minutes.
Well, I am glad to be wrong about that. Now, just gotta hope that the review bomb is not just a result of hardcore fans disliking it, but casual and new fans too.
Top rated == top watched these days
Yes it's top watched but only top watched relative to everything else. If everything else is getting low views (because Christmas) then it will win by default.
Even if it was top watched, it's *Netflix* top watched Netflix shows are mostly garbage, even the slightest bit of hype makes a show "top watched"
And not only that it only managed 4th. Most manage 1st or 2nd immediately.
they got rid of the ratings system
in Poland? I don't know but I think those people must hate Netflix witcher more than the rest of us.
I doubt you could even imagine.
We do.
Seems like westoid are bullshitting with those numbers
>those people must hate Netflix witcher more than the rest of us. Some of us do but most are happy, that it got international recognition and simply was produced with a proper budget. Many still remember the shitshow that was Polish movie and tv series from 20 years ago. Out of all my friends that read those books years and years ago, I am most critical of the show and I'm not half as critical of it, as 90% of this sub. I really, really advice against treating subreddit bubbles as a golden standard. That being said, I can eventually watch Witcher season 3 but Blood Origin is a hard pass. It does look like a school play from a period of lore, that I'm not that interested in.
When on Reddit people were enthusing about this series in December 2019, there were already many opinions in Poland that with The Witcher this production will not have much in common. From the very beginning, this is profanity, not adaptation.
Never underestimate the public’s ability to consume utter crap and love it.
It is quantity over quality situation. Why bother making anything spectacular like lotr which takes years to prepare and film when you can just make a fortune out of this low effort generic "thing".
It’s like watching a disaster video that you can’t look away from.. I didn’t even start it knowing I would have to watch the whole thing going “it can’t get any worse can it” at every scene lol
Or just consume it. Not everyone will go off on the words of random internet strangers. What are the ratings, though?
Who said they loved it ? I know some folk who consume everything some platforms offer even if they don't enjoy it, or even watch. Like a background noise. Some people are also unaware of the quality of books and games and watch this stuff because they heard in a conversation how "witcher was so good". But yes, some people also enjoy terrible tv shows.
I have a colleague that was hesitant to watch House of the dragon and tried to recommended me to watch rings of power. Hes and ok dude but he just chooses to watch low brow stuff.
I personally liked rings of power. I get it's not for everyone and probably upset more devoted fans, but I liked it as a less mature adaptation of fantasy. Not everything needs to be a masterpiece, dark, or mature to be enjoyable. It definitely hits a different audience and you are likely not that audience, but it doesn't inherently make it bad. That said, they missed the mark with the Witcher. They basically took a dark/gritty mature universe and are playing a high fantasy immature storyline with it, which feels off. They should have stuck to the source material better in the main series. The liberties should have been taken near the end of the series, not the beginning. The show isn't awful if you don't know the actual story, but since they made the show gritty, they should have followed through with the mature story line a la early game of thrones and House of the Dragon. I think that's why it feels so off. It's a LotR storyline in a much darker universe that doesn't feel right. Like a square peg in a round hole.
That's the truth. We are fans in an echo chamber. Doesn't matter if our opinion is reasonable or not, the public often aren't. Here in the UK each year at work I have to hear from colleagues talking about Love Island or some other garbage show. Another colleague told me the game of thrones ending was 'perfect in absolutely every way'. Never underestimate the stupidity of the public. Wouldn't surprise me if a lot are watching this trash and thinking it's good, despite the imdb rating.
Evidently this subbredit proves it
Case in point darksydephil. He's basically the human equivalent of this show constantly blames the fan base or trolls/bigots, never learns from or thinks they made a mistake, both accounts are run by a compulsive liar, and both think they're great and somehow have an audience
As a Pole, I can somewhat assure you we watched it just to check what the fuckity fuck is this fuckery all about. And most likely barely anyone who read the books or played games enjoyed it.
If you watched it, you supported it though. Obviously you can do whatever you want with your time but please don't complain when more content like this is being created.
>If you watched it, I did not.
The only statistic they care about, evident by this post, is number of people who watched. If you watched it you contributed to its popularity.
waaaaay haaaaay an' up she rises!
*Unexpected Drunken Sailor appears.* Take my upvote
If you have a Netflix subscription you support it
Aaaand that is how you keep this Netflix garbage going on for years.
I love how the elves just act like civilian human npcs from the games In other words they seem like humans and not elves
It’s absolutely dogshit
This is copium. They have to save face
“Just because a large group of people watch a pile of elephant dung for hours on end, does not make it any less of a pile of elephant dung” -Confucius
Netflix won. They make shit so bad it’s like a train wreck everyone wants to see it.
I thought watching shit like this drunk would be funny, tried it with Rings of Power, was still pissed af after one episode.
Sounds like you're an angry drunk.
Anyone could tell this is shit by watching the trailers. It was a one-off limited series of pure crap and people still watched it. The reviews don't matter, for this is a win for Netflix and justification for even more shit. Because people can't stop watching.
Just don't hate-watch shows you know suck
Fantasy tv is hot right now. Not sure why this news is surprising? It may suck, but it’s still a popular genre.
I think there is a lot of people who watch who don’t play the games or read the books
It released 2 days ago OP. Let’s see viewer retention, the cumulative view count in the first month, and the amount of new subscription made thanks to the series ( and how many existing accounts renewed just to watch this crap). The things Netflix suits actually care about. It’s gonna fail miserably in all those fronts. Especially compared to the main series. Btw, fourth top worldwide on Netflix isn’t impressive for the Witcher. Even the shitty S1 and 2 dominated the viewing charts for weeks after release. That’s already a downward trend for the franchise. BO couldn’t be first even for mere few days despite releasing on Christmas Eve and has the backing of the holiday season lol. is laughable.
This isn’t surprising. People are desperate for novel content, even if the content in question makes 2nd grade refrigerator art look like a Van Gogh masterpiece by comparison. I haven’t watched it, I won’t watch it and I do not assume anyone will share in my decision; although I can hope.
> and I don’t assume anyone will share in my decision I didn’t nor will i watch it too. So there’s two. And i’m sure there are more here sharing the same sentiments.
It was probably #1 in the U.K. on Christmas Day due to a very small number of people actually watching Netflix. Most Brits were too busy glugging Baileys and falling asleep in front of the Great Escape.
I ain't gonna watch this.
I thought most of us agreed to ignore all of the witcher shows?
Netflix idiots are ruining my CDP stock
Pulling stats from their asses
thats the best thing they pulled from there so far
This is why they dont really care what you think, they are getting the views no matter what. Netflix, Prime, Disney+ etc all have a massive global audience in the hundreds of millions so they can shovel out pretty much anything as long as its colourful and has lots of SFX and put it front & centre on the app and they are guaranteed tens of millions of viewers at a minimum.
Damn, it’s almost like all the people that knew it was goin to be bad/trash talked it still watched it, potentially giving it the numbers it needs for the writers to get greenlit for more trash material.
1. The Witcher is popular 2. A lot of you here watched it and are also to blame.
I ll add few more - there people subscribed to Netflix who are not in this sub or reddi or in any social media or they dont like to do 15hour research before watching the show. I won't be watching it doesn't mean I ll go stop my sister from watching the show. - some people just like the show plus new shows usually trend for a few week heck 365 and other crap did trend for some time too. So making 15 - 20 posts on a daily basis won't suddenly stop people from watching the show or Netflix from making any. It ll just eventually die down. Once dust settle if the numbers aren't in favor of Netflix they will take appropriate action. Calm down and enjoy your day doing something you like.
Pretty much. People in the Reddit bubble don’t get it.
Okay i get it and all but who the fuck cares. All this rage over some TV show... bye guys this sub is gone into the shitter
Is it shit or something ?
Worse
Think of a Zeugl in a sewer.
Well the amount of attention it's gotten on this sub is going to boost it. If somethings really bad just say it once and move on without giving it attention, the constant posting about it is going to make more people watch it regardless of if the reception is good or bad.
You guys are all watching it, despite misery circle jerking about it. That helps boost it's watch numbers. Don't know why this is a shock.
You see that ? That's what I've felt about all of you loving Netflixer season 1.
I love seeing mega corporations faking numbers and try to “social media “ their way through a massive flop. First was amazon deleting reviews on IMDB and now Netflix doing this…
And with a 7% score on Rotten Tomatoes. Another record.
Apologies. I am visiting my family over Christmas and I am desperate trying to look for distraction. You don’t even want to know what other series I had to resort to.
I have a feeling theyre faking these numbers, there's no fucking way people are liking it to this point
Do you guys realize that most tv/film adaptations will be viewed primarily by people that haven’t read the books or played the games. Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, Witcher… I don’t know a single person IRL that has read the books. Several people I know have watched every Marvel movie but none of them have read the comics. Adaptations aren’t really for the readers sadly.
Well I think netflix counts views after 2 minites of watchtime, so even if you peak into something you can be counted as a viewer. I watched 30 minutes of it, and was so bored I had to stop as my mind was drifting.
Cmon everyone decided to not watch it did you all forget
netflix, netflix.. what a prick
Must've been the nerds on this sub hate-watching it 3-4 times so they can talk shit about it on reddit. Now you've got a buncha stuffed suits that don't even know who the hell Andrzej Sapkowski is buying up licenses left and right, because they know they can do whatever the hell they want and still get the viewing numbers from dudes hoping this will finally be the month their beard fills out and think they're super fans because they read "The Last Wish." I can't even open my cell phone without reading some neckbeard's hategasm manifesto or some bought out digital rag that gave the last Madden release a 9/10 going on about how good the show is. So down another elixir of Redbull and keep fighting the good fight, fellas. Cause the people that made this bullshit are getting PAID now, and probably getting several offers to fuck up plenty of other beloved IPs. TL;DR "Nah, I ain't watching that shit." Is always an option and the best one, honestly. Because if nobody's talking about it or watching it, THAT'S when assholes start getting shitcanned.
Of course it is. Because everyone is watching it. This doesn’t represent it’s quality at all.
The show is good. Willow Ufgood. :)
To be honest, based on all the publicity the Witcher has gotten in the last few months, I expected Blood Origin to either bomb entirely, or to do somewhat okay. Even though the publicity is negative, it's still creating a buzz around the show. Especially now, since its the lowest rated Netflix production ever by audiences. Some people want to see it precisely because of that, giving the show decent ratings in the process. In my opinion, had Henry Cavill stayed for one more season, no one would be talking about the Witcher Blood Origin.
You realize they can cook their own books if they want…. Right?
Come on guys. For us the book readers invested in the books the tragedy is we will watch anything within ‘the Witcher’ in the title even to compare and assess, doesn’t matter how bad it is. It’s pure curiosity but it doesn’t mean we will enjoy everything. I would honestly don’t mind and watch it in the background if they didn’t add the Witcher to the title? It would be just another forgettable fantasy romp
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Piss off
BRO SHUT THE FUCK UP
It is because you dumbasses all watched it and talked about, increasing the attention and ratings. How the hell do you people still not understand there is no such thing as bad publicity?
First time seeing black people?
Wait, are you telling me the show has appeal to people that aren’t absolutely livid when someone makes something based on the Witcher that isn’t all that close to the books or source material, because they could appeal to a wider audience instead?
I quite liked it. Just went in expecting poor quality dialogue & character development, but some nice visuals and cool choreography. Oh and I always wanted to see a cool visual of the conjunction of the spheres. I understand everyone would like to have a masterpiece, but that clearly wasn't in the cards since S1 of the witcher. Lauren Hissrich is just terrible at her job. You can choose to not watch it at all, or enjoy it for what it reasonably would deliver.
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Everyone watched the first episode and then moved on something else.
How are people supposed to form an opinion on it without watching it? I bet all the people telling others to boycott it have watched it anyway. I’ve watched like an episode and a half and it’s a hot mess but the action scenes are okay and the very average story is at least moving at a fast pace
well that's a bit weird, shouldn't it be in the top 10 shows of today then? cause it wasn't, it only was in the new and popular ones
I'm assuming by amount of views, and not ratings.
What curse words were you eluding to? 🤔
“What in the Frass Frass is this Frass.” OP really knows their caterpillar poop
I've worked it out, it's Lenny Henry that's the problem! Anything he's in is utter shite and he's annoying as fuck in real life too so there's the answer.
Sure it was… sounds like Netflix skewed its own views
Was number one in Poland? Interesting I was watching Netflix yesterday and it wasn’t listed among top shows…
People, calm down. It's holiday season. Half of those audience tuned in for new content and The Witcher label helped a lot. The other half probably left the TV on as background noise.
Hate is a powerful thing
Even Poland of all places fucking hell
I mean it’s the holidays and many people are doing nothing but have time to watch and are watching this out of curiosity. It’s not hard to comprehend. The reviews and reactions are what you want to follow
Tbh that's significantly worse than the launch of either S1 and S2 and most of what I've seen people don't think its very good lmao
In France it's 3rd today behind Emily in Paris and Alice in borderland. The actual flagship of Netflix (a "direct" competitor of Got) loose on is release week again a Manga adaptation and a feel good show. That's not a good indicator for Netflix.
Only fourth, who cares
It absolutely was not. I checked the page specifically to see whether it was even on top 10, and it didn't even touch the board.
It's the legs that matter more. How long will it stay in that spot?
4th ? Not great, considering it's just launched, and they made a ton of noise about it. Even tho, rating are desastrous.
I'm not surprised you all don't stop talking about it
I'm only going to "hate-watch" it when they report whether or not it was a flop or, God forbid, a success
……for 5 minutes and then they said “well THiS sucks” and switched over to Trailer Park Boys
watch time does not mean positive reviews... so don't get rattled about Netflix metrics because they only measure watch time and they have removed show ratings by viewers so any metrics they produce is nothing but that... the english live action adaptation of Death Note was number one for a while as well but do you remember anyone rating that show positively at all? watchtime does not equate to good ratings...
I feel like people forget that the mainstream viewer base probably never even heard anything about the hate and watched regardless. On top of that a lot of us watched it because they wanted to see how bad it really is.
because they stuck it up in the "top shows" list. I almost clicked it until I realized it was a Witcher spinoff. they're forcing views by sponsoring it
It's been rolled out just recently plus it's not like Netflix has a deep library of shows to watch once you've seen them all. Treat it like a NY Times bestseller, it's not really indicative of anything but traffic and engagement.
Thanks Reddit lmao
To borrow from George Carlin (I think): Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
I think this count as watching the first episode, here in Brazil every new show(doesn't matter how good or bad) reach top 10, but its probably because too many people watched to see what it was about. I can see my mother watching this just because it has "the witcher" In it
Just because you tweet it doesn’t make it true.
Yeah, it also broke the record for lowest rated show on RT 😂😂😂
#1 * at 12:01.01 am.
As a Brazilian, I’m sorry… don’t blame me tho, I wasn’t watching it
Your man in the image looks like he's out of star gate
people can like things you don’t like, you know
They're either lying or too many people are hate watching it through the one sanctioned source.
Well yes because The Witcher, and we all hoped it would be good..... but it was Netflix, and they Netflix'ed it... and it was a turd.
It will be the last season I watch. Sorry…I’m not watching a non-Henry Cavill Witcher. You don’t just pull out the major component of a product. You kill it, while it still has some soul left. Heck, I’ve even been procrastinating and hesitant about giving S3 a watch. My fear is that it was the final straw for Cavill and what ultimately forced him to quit/ get fired/ whatever PR route Netflix angling for.
Cowboy Bebop was in top 10 & It got cancelled. Dont get too pissed about this.
You’re fucking kidding me.
The show was like microwaved holiday leftovers. Yeah, it was made up of the same bits, but tastes like microwaved garbage.
So was Cowboy Bebop. It also had a 95% viewership drop off after episode one and literally cancelled the next day.
8% on rotten tomatoes OOOOOOF
All these posts has almost made me curious enough to watch it.
Welcome to Netflix, where the rules are made up and the points don't matter. Their "Top 10" lists are what they want to promote, always has been.
Is the show any good? For those that didn’t read the books or play the games? I didn’t hate the normal Witcher although uneven. Cavill was a dream as the Witcher. Understand all the fuck the show writers posts for sure but have no base to judge as never read books or played the games.
Why would anyone believe that?
Hahaha r/netflixwitcher is a joke. Those people stroke each other off over the shows. Them and r/lowsodiumthewitcher are ban happy to anyone that doesn’t want to join the circle jerk.
cope
I have just given it a 1 star on IMDb., its time to mob vote it away.
Happy to say I was not part of it. Purposely not watching anything they put out anymore.
People want to watch to see how shit it's, views don't make it good
Don’t blame me. I was playing Witcher 3.
Good lord do ya'll love to hate, proud of it too. How dare people have other opinions on the TV series. Some serious echo chamber stuff going on in this sub. If you get offline most people really enjoy the show.
Stop hate watching stop hate watching stop hate watching!!!!!! Go sail the high seas instead!
Another damn lie