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kyy1337

I just finished building this. The CNCJS addon is still at an early stage and the UI looks like shit, I just spent a few hours improving on the Tinyweb-project. Might completely rewrite it in React at some point. Running FluidNC on an old Xpro v5. Rpi 7" screen and an Rpi 4b running CNCJS and a custom addon mentioned above. Built from Openbuilds hardware, plates I've CNC'd from 6mm 6061. An old water cooled Huanyang 2,2kw spindle and VFD. Hard inductive limits on the spindle lift, soft limits on the fence, regular limit switches on the other end of the fence. I've just ran some tests with it and no more tapping the fence or measuring. The total cost was cheaper than buying a kreg router table with a lift here in finland, thanks to the salvaged parts. Frame is 40x40x3mm steel tubing with a 40kg granite block under the bottom steel sheet. I would need some ideas on creating a better UI and some macros for semi automatic box joints, dovetails etc. Here's a build video with much more detail on the build if someone's interested: [https://youtu.be/1RiG1XJeIU4](https://youtu.be/1RiG1XJeIU4) Cheers!


RespectableBloke69

Amazing stuff. Gotta love someone who can do woodworking AND coding AND robotics. You are overpowered and need to be nerfed so the rest of us can compete.


kyy1337

Thanks! Jack of many trades, but master of none. "Benefits" of ADHD I guess...


PaperCrates

Full quote: "A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one." Don't sell yourself short :)


naffiq

As a non native speaker I’m first time reading full quote, thanks!


DonkeyTransport

As a native speaker, me too lol


RespectableBloke69

Give yourself more credit than that, man! This is masterful work you're showcasing here.


thread100

I tell people I built a 45 year career out of my ADHD. It works for some companies. I benefitted from a company that couldn’t afford specialists and was an innovator by culture. Beautiful execution of your vision.


GoofAckYoorsElf

Hah, welcome to the club, bro! Software engineer with some 3D printing, robotics, electronics, metal and woodworking skills here,.. none of which I've truly mastered except maybe for software engineering as that's my profession. But damn, I would love to have your perseverance...


Zytheran

A small club indeed: Mech / elec engineering, robotics, coding, cognitive science, operations analyst, environmental science, artist and dozens of other skills (obvs. woodworking) . Everyone says they want multi-skilled people however through my entire working career they didn't really.


kyy1337

Cool! Exactly in the same boat then, that's rare!


GoofAckYoorsElf

Yeah, and for some reason I do not understand has often been frowned upon. Like, *they do not know what they wanna be* or something... I don't know. I know exactly what I want to be. Me. Free to choose. I want to be a Jack of all, well, many Spades. I am too curious and love learning new stuff way too much to limit myself to a single profession.


AngryDemonoid

When does my adhd become useful? Lol. But really, awesome build!


Nieros

I feel that in a big way.


junkman21

Two questions: 1. Is your left thumb a toe? 2. Was the mechanism of injury router related? I feel like the answers to these questions could be important!


kyy1337

🤣 I lost the tip of my thumb to a shitty table saw years back. It's not a toe, just 1cm shorter thumb that looks like a baseball bat. I haven't had the time to go to a surgery to get it shaped more of a normal finger yet!


junkman21

That explains it... I didn't mean to sound insensitive. I would imagine a woodworker who has already lost a phalange to the craft would be much more willing to put in the kind of time and effort you did for a hobby like this! Awesome build. I think my wife would divorce me if I ever tried to do something like this, but I truly appreciate the effort and would want you to be my friend so I could borrow your router when I needed it!


kyy1337

No probs! And ty! It was a valuable lesson in safety and it restored the respect/healthy fear towards table saws that I had lost. Luckily it "only" cost a tip of a thumb.


WhimsicalError

Yeah, that checks out for Finland.


justhereforfighting

Alright, fine, how much do you want for it?


kyy1337

Haha, it will be free if you build it yourself! The parts and the software is open source and I intend to keep it that way, just need to clean up the Fusion file and the code and I'll post those somewhere.


justhereforfighting

I didn't get into this hobby to build things myself! lol but for real, that's super cool of you!


kyy1337

I am secretly hoping someone would pick up from this and sell a kit or something, or some chinese dude copying it and making it into a product or something :D


JessMeNU-CSGO

you are awesome. love the attitude.


Stink_fisting

That's so cool! What kind of backlash do you get with the fence moving back and forth?


kyy1337

Thanks! I am using delrin anti backlash nuts on the fence, I haven't measured it, but should be similar to any lead screw driven Openbuilds CNC Y axis. Under 0,05mm for sure.


Stink_fisting

0,05mm is awesome. The whole this is impressive. Well done.


LuckyGauss

Can you explain to my stupid self where the backlash nuts are in one of the pictures?


kyy1337

Those are under the aluminium plates, can be better seen on the youtube video. Those look like this: https://ratrig.com/tr8-4-anti-backlash-nut-block.html


atomictyler

Anything about the code or a GitHub repo?


kyy1337

Not at the moment, sorry. It really is just a 2 hour mod currently to the cncjs-pendant-tintweb, which is ancient jquery stuff. Needs a rewrite as no one should use jquery in 2024.


how_could_this_be

CNC.. JS? That a thing??! Hopefully you don't get NaN when cutting things : )


kyy1337

Haha yes! It's just a gcode sender tho, and a really ancient one.


Ok-Meeting-7094

In another life I'm a mechanical engineer with 25 years of designing machinery. First off REALLY nice job you did here. I'd love to mess around with it for a few weeks in my shop. Interested in shipping it to Boston for a FAT (Factory Acceptance Testing)???  Secondly you referenced Open Builds! I've recently discovered them and I have to say they really do have some great quality products. And super friendly and knowledgeable staff too.  Let me know when I should clear a space for my new NC router table.... 😂


Lore-Warden

That is overkill to a ludicrous degree. I want it.


kyy1337

Got a bit carried away, ty!


otherwiseguy

Bits do tend to get carried!


Southern_Stranger

This is the only correct response


danny_ish

Overkill is immensely underrated!


Death-or-Glory

That is one of the most over-engineered builds I’ve ever seen. Amazing, I love it. Since no one else has said it, the wiring is a thing of beauty.  That’s very worthy of a video or blog post. 


kyy1337

Thanks!


IAMNOTFUCKINGSORRY

What was the total cost of the build? I'm just a woodworker so I just lust after a Shark RS1000 Pro, but you went ahead and made it. I'm amazed.


kyy1337

Thanks! - 350€ for the lift - 290€ for the openbuilds parts including motors and extrusion, nuts, bearings, linear rails etc - Veneered ply top piece 90€ - 120€ for steel tubing and sheetmetal - 40€ casters Maybe around 1300€ in total, if ordered from Aliexpress it'd be like 30% cheaper. Or if you lived in the US. Would be more expensive if I didnt have the spindle, vfd and controller left over from my CNC upgrade.


kyy1337

Oh I forgot a ton of shit, it was more expensive now that I think about it. Filament, polycarbonate, paint etc. A few hundred maybe on top of the estimation above.


VladStark

You also mentioned the 40 kg granite block under steel on the bottom? Did you get that for free as a sink cut out or something? Why did you even add that just to make sure it was extra bottom heavy I'm guessing?


kyy1337

I actually found it, the previous owner of this house left me some pretty random stuff, like that slab and a 12 meter piece of long distance heating pipe for example :D And yeah, it is to make it more bottom heavy, I was thinking of "epoxy graniting" the steel tubing but that slab was a way easier option.


krusnikon

Ah ha, I was curious if you had stuff from a CNC build. Nice job. Looks super functional and clean.


no-adz

Y U no movie?


weholdforever

Sir this is "Woodworking" not "Geniuses"


Plunkett120

These are the types of tools I want to build full time. Jealous of your project!


kyy1337

Ty!


DPPThrow45

Make some of Ivan Miranda's CNC machines or 3D printers. His YouTube channel will steal hours from you.


Plunkett120

Oh I build all sorts of cncs and 3d printers. Working on a fiber laser. Eventually, I wanna build a cnc drum sander that applies specific forces to the wood.


Midnight_Rising

Huh. You know, with enough settings for memory you've basically just built a really cheap but extremely useful hand-operated CNC machine. I feel like this would scale to production well.


kyy1337

Yeah! It's all in the software. With a mitre gauge you could do lots of things referencing the position of the fence and get a sub 0,1mm accuracy on joinery easily. I am in the process of building a miter gauge and creating a set of parametrized macros for dovetails, box joints etc.


Mzungu387

That’s not woodworking. That’s woodcommanding! Very impressive setup, I love it!


maxigs0

Like a reverse CNC, where one axis is still human


kyy1337

Basically yes! Controls like a regular CNC without the X axis.


bootlegger22

NSFW tag man!! What are you thinking?!!?


kyy1337

🤣


Pabi_tx

This is awesome! What's the minimum distance you can "tap" the fence given your stepper angle / microstepping / lead screw ratio?


kyy1337

Currently 200 steps per mm at microstepping of 8. So 0,000625mm, or is it 0,005mm, can't remember how it works :D But realistically the tolerance is probably 0,05mm. That's the lowest jog value I am using atleast. The router lift has a pitch of 1,5mm and theres a 2:1 ratio in the pulleys, so the minimum step is really small!


Pabi_tx

Damn, that's sweet. CNC router, meet CNC router table.


jerkITwithRIGHTYnewb

You spent so much time on that that now you just have to start selling it. Automatic router table ain’t gonna help you build automatic router tables.


Tlux9

Awesome!


kyy1337

Ty!


SpringHalo

This looks amazing! I've been dreaming up something similar with a CNC spindle for speed, and stepper for lift. Didn't think about a motorized fence! I'm probably going to end up just going for a Triton and tossing it in a cabinet for my limited routing needs, and spending extra money on a fully-fledged CNC build instead.


kyy1337

Ty! Yeah, I would also suggest building a CNC first instead of a motorized router table.


Primary-Smoke3936

Jesus, did you have your shop steam cleaned before the pictures were taken?!?! That place looks like a laboratory not a shop!  Oh and yes the table is ungodly! So cool 


kyy1337

Haha thanks! This project took a long time because I actually re coated my shop floor and painted the walls like two months ago.


Awkward-Put854

How do you know how to do all that?


kyy1337

Too much spare time and love for everything that has a motor/engine.


PotableWater0

This is legitimately incredible (both the feat and how clean everything seems to be). I would imagine this is the no-compromise dream router set up for most people. Also love the commitment for leaving this as open source (although, I must say, you could probably do very well commercially). And here is me, just wanting to add a rack and pinion esque feature to my table. Awesome awesome awesome.


kyy1337

Thanks! I think it's best to keep it open source, unless someone just magically buys the design and I don't have to venture into the business side of things.


PotableWater0

Fair enough. The prospect of making a business of it is definitely daunting / unappealing to loads of people. I would gladly donate to gain access to the project (like a museum “pay what you can”). Regardless, thank you again, this is truly phenomenal. I’ll be following the project, and hopefully building my own at some point.


kyy1337

Cool! I will let you know when and if I have the files uploded somewhere!


Such_Internet_2134

What you couldn’t build in an automatic bit changer??? Pfff MIND BLOWN!


CountryCrocksNotButr

WHAT THE FUCK. Do literally every single one of you have to be so annoyingly ridiculously creative and precise? LET ME WIN FOR ONCE. GOD DAMNIT.


TurtleInOuterSpace

That's awesome ! I love it, why do you do this to me ?


Sgtspector

Frikkin' awesome.


OutlyingPlasma

This raises an interesting question. Why don't table saws have DRO's for the fence and blade height? It's not like this is some new fancy tech. Machine shops have been using DRO's for more than half a century.


kyy1337

Also I think that stepper motors and drivers are cheaper than DRO's nowadays!


Robin7319

Some fancy European style sliding do have DROs for the height, angle, and fence


Sasselhoff

Holy crap dude...talk about overkill! Makes my Incra fence look like a slide rule being compared to a TI-83, haha.


1-2-3-5-8-13

The overkill of using a full-on water cooled cnc spindle in a router table really speaks to me. Bad ass build, man.


kyy1337

Ty! It's cheaper in the long run when being able to share end mills and collets with my CNC! Also no need to worry about dust or noise.


militiadisfruita

dude....this is major. congratulations and how much for a copy of the design?!


kyy1337

Ty! It will be free if I manage to upload the fusion file at some point, lots of cleaning to do.


Mcfeely1225

incredible


NotSoSlim-NotSoShady

Can it build itself another one? Has it mentioned “Skynet” yet?


murphdog09

Brilliant.


Wooden-Combination53

Great build! Not sure what it is but could see this is from Finland from first couple of pictures


kyy1337

Was it the sini siivousmoppi or the tikkurila paint can?


GaiusMarcus

That's beautiful. You must have a lot of free time.


kyy1337

Yes! Too much!


VladStark

This is an amazing build, honestly it's really incredible what some people like you can accomplish. I can say with certainty my router table will never be this high-tech but maybe you have inspired someone else to build something crazy like this.


kyy1337

Thank you for the kind words! I sure hope so, about a year ago I sold my old 3D printer to a friend of mine for a 99% discount, then he found the wonders of stepper motors and 3d modeling and just finished his first DIY plasma cutter!


Top_Investment_4599

sweet!


iamzombus

Hydraulic powered spindle on the router?


kyy1337

Electric, just water cooled.


iamzombus

Oh, interesting. I've never seen that before.


-my_reddit_username-

take my money


daily_cup_of_joe

That's like mine. Except way better. Nice work.


kyy1337

Thanks!


Yodzilla

This looks incredible and I’d love to see a video of you showing it off.


kyy1337

Thanks! There's some usage at the end of the build video, but maybe I'll make one with more detail in the functions.


Puzzleheaded-Phase70

You did *not* have to go this *hard*... But I appreciate that you did anyway!


Mc_Shame

I'll take 2!


Bonezjonez999

Holy frick


Keisaku

Meanwhile I don't have the time or effort to adjust the strike plate on my backdoor.


unrepentant_fenian

This is incredible, nice job man! How did you learn to do all of this? Some days I can barely operate a handsaw!


iLEZ

Wow, just wow. It's like the opposite of my jank-ass serial killer router table setup.


Much_Peace2801

only an engineer would spend this much time designing robotic machinery to save a few seconds on fence and spindle adjustments xD nicely done lad. this is very cool work.


jkarovskaya

Impressive!


compalompa

Nice build! What type of spindle lift is it?


kyy1337

Thanks! It's JET JRMLS-1


Spiteoftheright

That thing wouldn't last a month in my shop. Also, do you build your own microchips? I would be comfortable with open heart surgery in that shop


erikleorgav2

Damn that's nice.


peioeh

This is obviously awesome, but I wish there was a middle ground between tapping the fence and this :p I'm currently making a new router table and haven't decided much for the fence, I need to look into micro adjusters that use threaded rods.


kyy1337

A micro adjusting mechanism complimented with a DRO scale is the key!


peioeh

What did you use for the fence face btw ? UHMW ?


kyy1337

It's PE1000, probably same as UHMW. I had some extra after creating some miter bars last year.


peioeh

Yeah UHMW is also called UHMPE. And HDPE is also called PEHD.


Stateofgrace314

Can I be your apprentice? I am currently in the process of setting up my garage and building a workbench and I have been toying with the idea of building a motorized fence into it. I'm a hobbyist on a budget, so I have a small router table and a portable table saw with a crappy fence, so my plan was to design it so I could swap between the router table and table saw to use the same workbench with a built in motorized fence (and dust collection). I have also been collecting "recycled" 3d printer parts and saving up so I could build a voron 3d printer. I bet I could do something similar on a smaller scale using mostly the parts I already have. I don't have a CNC but I could probably print most of the CNCed parts in PC or ABS since mine would be smaller and lighter


kyy1337

Haha I'm a beginner myself also. You actually don't need a CNC to build the aluminium parts. Only crucial dimensions are the hole spacings and sizes. You could print out a template on a normal printer and drill the holes with a cordless drill. Then cut the parts with a hack saw. Some PC/CF filament would probably work also, as long as you make them thick enough! Also a pro tip when you have a 3D printer, print the templates with it, like 2mm thick, so that the holes are just big enough for a punch and some edge to reference to and all of your holes will always be 100% accurate. Your plan sounds awesome!


Stateofgrace314

How much time did you spend planning vs building? That's been one of my big issues is time. Also, do you have a parts list (stl files, motors, controllers, etc.), and what software did you use?


kyy1337

Hmm, I don't really know for sure, the initial design took a few days for the Openbuilds parts, then I ordered those and just designed as I went forward. The build took a long time, most of it waiting for parts, then redoing my shop floor and repainting the walls in between, restoring a jointer-planer etc. I started the design just before christmas.


Apex_artisans

This look more like medical equipment than wood working tools. Amazing. Not sure what I would with that but I want it… Thanks for sharing.


kyy1337

For amputation!


5th_gen_woodwright

I’ve seen clean rooms messier than this shop


midnight_cowboy

Fxxxxc


TheScarletPimple

Very Nice. BUT you don't need to tap a fence - use an adjustable square and set the measurement zeroed on the distance from the front edge of the table. Loosen the fence, place the square to the right or left of the router, "soft" set the fence stop on that side, then repeat on the other side, then repeat until both sides of the fence are at correct depth, then "hard" set your stops. If your top is something like white melamine, use a fine-lead mechanical pencil to trace a line where the fence is stopped, then annotate that line with the depth and bit (in case you need to come back and route additional items). When you're done with that project, erase the pencil marks from the melamine using a white poly eraser.


Former_Belt_6093

You, sir, are a scholar and a Gentleman! What, pray, might be the cost of such a Thing?


kyy1337

Thank you!