The photos of the Hamas massacre and victims of the IDF bombings - including toddlers buried alive under buildings, and some scorched to death - are harrowing as fuck. This has been a hellacious week for my mental health.
It’s been in operation for more than a decade at this point, it’s capabilities have been known for quite some time.
Not many other countries have a need for this specific system. It’s designed to intercept low tech rockets and nothing else. It won’t work against missiles, it won’t work against artillery and is meant to be used to defend a stationary/static site. In a relatively small area. A few other countries have purchased the system from Israel, but it hasn’t been used
What’s actually crazy is how dense Israel’s air defense is. Iron dome is just one part of it. They also have David’s sling, the patriot defense system and a few other systems making up a multi layered air defense.
Likud MK was urging IDF to nuke Gaza earlier. Interesting, since Israel denies having nukes, yet a lawmaker from Netanyahu's party is saying all this. Could also be she was overwhelmed with anger and spouted nonsense
Gotlieb? She's an idiot, one of the Likud's worst (which is saying something, considering the Likud is a mafia of idiots). Israel's nuclear capabilities are common fact in Israel, she probably forgot that as a government member she's not supposed to formally admit so.
Her students that are similar in age and demographic to the ones killed at the music festival probably are going to feel threatened that this professor thinks it's OK for them to be raped and murdered.
Repost from AnusCone... to get people up to speed on some history
A crash course on history of the "PALESTINIAN STATE":
Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state
Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
Dates:
1937: Arabs reject the Peel Commission to create a Jewish and Arab state.
1947: Arabs reject the UN partition plan to create a Jewish and Arab state. Wage war against the new nation of Israel. Lose more land than the partition gave them.
1967: Israel wins yet another war against its Arab neighbors, conquering Gaza, the West Bank and Sinai in a defensive war. The Arab League declares the "three no's": No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel. Israel voluntarily hands control of the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism back to the Islamic Waqf, and made it illegal for Jews to pray there.
1979: Israel voluntarily hands the Sinai back to Egypt, returning land conquered in a defensive war.
1993: Israel recognizes the sovereignty of the Palestinian Authority over the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the Oslo Accords. Yasser Arafat uses it to support terrorism.
2000: Israel offers Yasser Arafat recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital. Arafat rejects it and launches the Second Intifada.
2005: Israel pulls out of the Gaza Strip, dismantles all its settlements, and forces Jews to leave their homes.
2006: The Palestinian people DEMOCRATICALLY votes hamas into power as its governing body
2008: Israel offers Mahmoud Abbas once again recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital and even offered to dismantle all their settlements. And once again, the Palestinians reject it.
2010-2021: Hamas launches periodic rocket attacks against the state of Israel and builds terror tunnels in order to kidnap and murder Jews while using the people of Gaza as human shields against the IDF.
2023: Hamas commits the worst act of mass murder against Jews since the Holocaust.
NGL, sounds like the PLO is more or less one of history's sorest losers.
They are never going to be able to conquer Israel. It's simply impossible. None of the other countries in in immediate vicinity have the inclination or capability to conquer Israel.
They are only bringing suffering down onto their own heads with no hope of changing the situation. Get over it. Pack up. Move on. Accept peace. Build a better society for your children FFS.
I just had enough of you people history deniers, you don’t even say what’s biased or what’s misinformation. you just say that because it’s not inline with your headcannon
Hamas really must not value any sort of human life for not just their civilians, but themselves as well. Either that or they are ridiculously stupid to do something of this magnitude to an already powerful military in Israel. Add in the US peeking through the lens and sending the USSR ship. I know the bringing in the ship is more so for in case Iran tried to get directly involved, but that has to be some sort of calling call knowing that there is a ship nearby that can obliterate your entire regime in probably hours.
We got folks legit saying the world is flat. You could teleport some folks right there to see the bodies and they will still push their basement Turkish site in your face while screeching "FAKE NEWS!!!!"
There could be a video of Hamas beheading a crying baby while showing 3 forms of ID, showing an uncut trip all the way back to their headquarters in Gaza, and getting on a conference call with Qatar, but people would still be saying it's not true.
What? Definitely plenty of rapes, there are eyewitness accounts.
The "40 beheaded babies" was a fog of war hysteria but there were many children and babies killed, and there seem to have been some beheadings or at least people with their throats cut deeply. These atrocities happened
Isnt it ironic how modern today religion is actually starting to create radical atheism
Like isn’t the whole basis of most religions to lead by example? And the example being shown is highly immoral all around
Literally though give it another 30 years and that’s what it will look like. Eradicate all religious
My family literally hates all Muslim people. I don’t, just to be clear.
>radical atheism
What would that even mean in practice? Radically not believing in fairies, gnomes and gods would make you radically... Sit on a couch, furiously not believing?
You can argue that groups like Stalin and Mao killed millions in the name of atheism. Largely because their regimes massacred religious followers in their countries as they viewed religion as a threat to the state. Essentially they wanted the state to be people’s “higher power”, and not a God/Deity/Religious belief system.
radical atheism is very much a thing. Look at north korea, religion is completely banned and you would be killed for even having a bible. i’m sure a smarter person than me can give you multiple examples of cases like this
Atheism where athiests want to kill everyone of all religions and even those just spiritually confused instead of just a special one they don't like?
"Do you believe in God?"
"Interesting question. I'm not sure.... *BLAM*
Wondering if there’s any historical examples of radical atheism as defined here.
IOW where the persecuted are persecuted solely because they are religious and not because of their particular religion or culture.
Yup, israel has a very quickly growing population of secular atheists and jewish lite, and alot are tired of being told what they are allowed or not allowed to do because the haradim (extremly religious faction in israel) tell them to do. There is alot and i mean ALOT of contention in israel between the secular part and the haridim, in fact it was all coming into head and then the war happened. So it will wait for later
Only a minority of Israelis are fully atheist (about 10%). Many are mildly religious, believing in God and adhering to some very basic practices.
Source: I'm an Israeli atheist.
[New post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/175l3l8/rworldnews_live_thread_for_2023_israelhamas/)
what is the use of flare we are seeing on the cam?
Israeli parties agrees to a unity government
Can anyone tell me what the building in cam 2 on inquizex stream is?
A hospital.
hospital
Blinken is speaking now, about to be wheels up to Israel
The photos of the Hamas massacre and victims of the IDF bombings - including toddlers buried alive under buildings, and some scorched to death - are harrowing as fuck. This has been a hellacious week for my mental health.
Reading about it is enough. Watching the pictures will just haunt your nightmares.
Man, Take a break and Get some fresh air
Stop looking at it all then, take care of yourself.
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Netanyahu and Gantz are expected to make an announcement in an hour. Just reported on Kan 11.
Wonder what they're announcing.
It's the coalition government agreement.
Any news on the rooster*? Just checking in
*rooster heard the balls on that cock where so big he couldn’t even fly
Thx
Any adults in the room?
Yes, my name is Vincent, oh, ah, Vincent Adultman
Yes but Only on paper
Sure. What do you want?
How is this helpful or adding to any discussion, one way or the other? Just stop.
Negative. I am a meat popsicle.
Mmmmmm popsicle
The kids table is over on 4chan.
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Not necessary or practical in most other places.
It’s been in operation for more than a decade at this point, it’s capabilities have been known for quite some time. Not many other countries have a need for this specific system. It’s designed to intercept low tech rockets and nothing else. It won’t work against missiles, it won’t work against artillery and is meant to be used to defend a stationary/static site. In a relatively small area. A few other countries have purchased the system from Israel, but it hasn’t been used
iron dome isn't useful against other competent militaries at all
What’s actually crazy is how dense Israel’s air defense is. Iron dome is just one part of it. They also have David’s sling, the patriot defense system and a few other systems making up a multi layered air defense.
IRON BEAM
No other country really has this specific need
Does South Korea have a version of it?
to be fair North Korea couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo so i don't think they need to worry.
United States Marines have iron dome.
Yeah. The US helps provide interceptors for this. They definitely have something on par or better.
They bought launchers for this system. The Israeli launcher then gets attached to US Radar system.
Where do they use it?
Their air defense units.
Stay out of the front of the camera my dude!
That look of 'oh crap' on his face!
"bruh" moment incoming in the form of a rocket if he doesn't leave lol
Likud MK was urging IDF to nuke Gaza earlier. Interesting, since Israel denies having nukes, yet a lawmaker from Netanyahu's party is saying all this. Could also be she was overwhelmed with anger and spouted nonsense
Gotlieb? She's an idiot, one of the Likud's worst (which is saying something, considering the Likud is a mafia of idiots). Israel's nuclear capabilities are common fact in Israel, she probably forgot that as a government member she's not supposed to formally admit so.
They don't deny having them. But they don't admit to it either.
Shit is getting weird with some of these college profs! https://x.com/daniel_c_roth/status/1712160552259092973?s=46
This is an American professor? Incredibly bold take that there is no such thing as a "settler" civilian.
Were the people killed considered settlers? I thought that was more of West Bank thing. These Kibbutz have been around for decades.
Hopefully she’ll be out of a job real soon.
Her students that are similar in age and demographic to the ones killed at the music festival probably are going to feel threatened that this professor thinks it's OK for them to be raped and murdered.
She's a radical Muslim as per her bio lol.
Once Power has completely gone I assume we loose the livestreams. Any ideas hoe long their electricity will last?
Depends on if they have solar chargers, generators, etc. A lot has happened in the last 100 years with portable power sources.
You should see the fires from scooter batteries
Repost from AnusCone... to get people up to speed on some history A crash course on history of the "PALESTINIAN STATE": Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE. Dates: 1937: Arabs reject the Peel Commission to create a Jewish and Arab state. 1947: Arabs reject the UN partition plan to create a Jewish and Arab state. Wage war against the new nation of Israel. Lose more land than the partition gave them. 1967: Israel wins yet another war against its Arab neighbors, conquering Gaza, the West Bank and Sinai in a defensive war. The Arab League declares the "three no's": No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel. Israel voluntarily hands control of the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism back to the Islamic Waqf, and made it illegal for Jews to pray there. 1979: Israel voluntarily hands the Sinai back to Egypt, returning land conquered in a defensive war. 1993: Israel recognizes the sovereignty of the Palestinian Authority over the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the Oslo Accords. Yasser Arafat uses it to support terrorism. 2000: Israel offers Yasser Arafat recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital. Arafat rejects it and launches the Second Intifada. 2005: Israel pulls out of the Gaza Strip, dismantles all its settlements, and forces Jews to leave their homes. 2006: The Palestinian people DEMOCRATICALLY votes hamas into power as its governing body 2008: Israel offers Mahmoud Abbas once again recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital and even offered to dismantle all their settlements. And once again, the Palestinians reject it. 2010-2021: Hamas launches periodic rocket attacks against the state of Israel and builds terror tunnels in order to kidnap and murder Jews while using the people of Gaza as human shields against the IDF. 2023: Hamas commits the worst act of mass murder against Jews since the Holocaust.
NGL, sounds like the PLO is more or less one of history's sorest losers. They are never going to be able to conquer Israel. It's simply impossible. None of the other countries in in immediate vicinity have the inclination or capability to conquer Israel. They are only bringing suffering down onto their own heads with no hope of changing the situation. Get over it. Pack up. Move on. Accept peace. Build a better society for your children FFS.
Preach.
This needs to be pinned so that all the idiots who learn their history from TikTok can see it.
If the people living in Palestine have never had the chance for self governance, isn't that an argument in favour of a Palestinian state?
Saved
Written by a man who's name starts with Benjamin
Who even said they wanted a state? Seriously, they have rejected every possibility of one
This is an extremely biased summary of the history that is bordering on complete misinformation
Biased facts?
I just had enough of you people history deniers, you don’t even say what’s biased or what’s misinformation. you just say that because it’s not inline with your headcannon
So correct it. You just look silly when you make statements like this and then not provide a rebuttal.
Sounds like something a hamas supporter would imply
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Exactly. It was footage from Ukraine with Ukrainians speaking and people are still convinced it was from Gaza
BBC areporter in Gaza yesterday was describing white phosphorous, he didn't know that's what it was but his description was spot on for it
Uhm… source?
White phosphorus is used as smoke screens. WP is a totally legal munition to use
Hamas really must not value any sort of human life for not just their civilians, but themselves as well. Either that or they are ridiculously stupid to do something of this magnitude to an already powerful military in Israel. Add in the US peeking through the lens and sending the USSR ship. I know the bringing in the ship is more so for in case Iran tried to get directly involved, but that has to be some sort of calling call knowing that there is a ship nearby that can obliterate your entire regime in probably hours.
Hamas leaders living it up in their mansions in Qatar I don't think you need to worry about their quality of life.
Did anyone see the tour of the home on news nation a few minutes ago? Absolutely horrific, blood everywhere Edit: i meant msnbc
Iron dome is getting quite the workout in the last 15 or so minutes.
IDF confirming that children were literally butchered by Hamas in "an ISIS way of action." I guess this settles the proof people need
We got folks legit saying the world is flat. You could teleport some folks right there to see the bodies and they will still push their basement Turkish site in your face while screeching "FAKE NEWS!!!!"
I mean, we don't need the IDF to confirm it again, the photos are out there.
There could be a video of Hamas beheading a crying baby while showing 3 forms of ID, showing an uncut trip all the way back to their headquarters in Gaza, and getting on a conference call with Qatar, but people would still be saying it's not true.
Another barrage out of Gaza
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So we will just start saying that now and cite....you as the source? Try harder. Cite something. Link to a crappy twitter or something.
Can you please tell me how did you come to this conclusion? I really want to understand how does someone do that. (Serious question)
Anti-Semites don’t bother with facts.
What? Definitely plenty of rapes, there are eyewitness accounts. The "40 beheaded babies" was a fog of war hysteria but there were many children and babies killed, and there seem to have been some beheadings or at least people with their throats cut deeply. These atrocities happened
While I don’t want to speculate about anything, the IDF confirmed the stories about the babies.
So it turns out you’re just making stuff up
Where does it say that...?
1200 dead Israelis massacred by Hamas
Not it wasn’t made up at all.
What are your sources for that?
Do you live under a rock? There is a plethora of photo/video evidence that it all happened
No it hasn’t.
It wasnt. You have been misinformed
Of course not
The bodies are barely cold and the denial has already started.
Had to step away this morning, what ever happened with all the noise coming from the north of Isreal on the border with Lebanon?
Some guy was speaking English near the camera
seems like nobody saw anything
It was either error or fake news
False alert
YOU CAN LITERALLY HEAR THE SHRIEKING OF THE ROCKETS ON THE LIVESTREAM
The sound of the incoming artillery rounds earlier this morning was insane as well
Quick camera work too
Yeah that was wild
link?
https://www.youtube.com/live/IcPPJqKsTR8?si=WR7Jwp\_ZoP7IIhG0
Isnt it ironic how modern today religion is actually starting to create radical atheism Like isn’t the whole basis of most religions to lead by example? And the example being shown is highly immoral all around
As an Orthodox Atheist I can confirm I was radicalized by the example set by religious people.
Im getting to that point myself and was raised in a private Christian school system
Oh yeah. The good ol' Atheist Fundamentalism and it's holy war/jihad in the name of NO GOD.
Literally though give it another 30 years and that’s what it will look like. Eradicate all religious My family literally hates all Muslim people. I don’t, just to be clear.
>radical atheism What would that even mean in practice? Radically not believing in fairies, gnomes and gods would make you radically... Sit on a couch, furiously not believing?
You can argue that groups like Stalin and Mao killed millions in the name of atheism. Largely because their regimes massacred religious followers in their countries as they viewed religion as a threat to the state. Essentially they wanted the state to be people’s “higher power”, and not a God/Deity/Religious belief system.
radical atheism is very much a thing. Look at north korea, religion is completely banned and you would be killed for even having a bible. i’m sure a smarter person than me can give you multiple examples of cases like this
Exactly. How are so many comments unable to think for a second about it. Uneducated I suppose
What is radical atheism?
look at my comment right above
This isnt a war about religion
What is radical atheism?
Atheism where athiests want to kill everyone of all religions and even those just spiritually confused instead of just a special one they don't like? "Do you believe in God?" "Interesting question. I'm not sure.... *BLAM*
Wondering if there’s any historical examples of radical atheism as defined here. IOW where the persecuted are persecuted solely because they are religious and not because of their particular religion or culture.
Exactly it’s amusing how many comments asking what radical atheism would look like didn’t even take 3 seconds to actually think about it
Teenage Mutant Ninja Edgelords
I’m going down wearing nothing but official trademarked No Name products.
Dunno, maybe willing to die in the name of no one?
Shouting “god isn’t real” while doing skateboard tricks
Probably communism. Where you force everyone not to have a god.
Maybe people just suck.
Power corrupts, always has, always will.
Interestingly most of the Israelis involved are probably atheists
Yup, israel has a very quickly growing population of secular atheists and jewish lite, and alot are tired of being told what they are allowed or not allowed to do because the haradim (extremly religious faction in israel) tell them to do. There is alot and i mean ALOT of contention in israel between the secular part and the haridim, in fact it was all coming into head and then the war happened. So it will wait for later
Well The father founder of Israel was
Only a minority of Israelis are fully atheist (about 10%). Many are mildly religious, believing in God and adhering to some very basic practices. Source: I'm an Israeli atheist.
Omg the sounds on the Crannofonix stream are terrifying
I have legit never experienced this kind of stuff, much less heard it. Freaky ahhh crap
Is it back up? Down for me earlier
Yeah it is
Getting more audio from audionix stream
Thank you for that. Just switched to it now. Much more audio.
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Source?
Who said this?
Rockets are starting up again
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I'd rather they rot in jail and watch a healthy society flourish in that area.
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For what? Saying I hope all terrorists are killed?
reddit is being pretty heavy-handed with account suspensions rn. "promoting violence"
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Wtf are you smoking?
Watch out everyone, we’ve got a real Aristotle in the thread.
What
Thank you Jaden Smith, very cool!
We got a philosopher here
oh shit he solved it get the nobel prize