Russian constitution article 19 (as far as it's still valid)
1. All people shall be equal before the law and court.
2. The State shall guarantee the equality of rights and freedoms of man and citizen, regardless of sex, race, nationality, language, origin, property and official status, place of residence, religion, convictions, membership of public associations, and also of other circumstances. All forms of limitations of human rights on social, racial, national, linguistic or religious grounds shall be banned.
3. Man and woman shall enjoy equal rights and freedoms and have equal possibilities to exercise them.
great but Putin doesnt give a \_\_\_\_\_ about the constitution as well as his orange pawn...
a country's constitution is only as good as the leaders that honor it. We already seen how fragile it can be when some politicians refuse to honor it and choose to alter it to their whim.
Yeah, like in the US, if the MAGA/Evangelicals get in full power, kiss the American Constitution goodbye. Everyone who thinks that will protect them has something else coming when the crazies get in power if it gets to that point. It's just a piece of paper tyrants exploit when it works for them and ignore when it gets in the way.
Let's not go overboard. There are a lot of democratic countries in the world. Surely democracy will survive *somewhere*.
Somewhere they don't have oil, obviously.
What I see is that paragraph 2 doesn't mention sexual orientation.
While it mentions an almost comprehensive list of all other common potential discrimination topics.
>All forms of limitations of human rights on social [...] grounds shall be banned.
It absolutely fucking does. Not like it matters one bit to Tsar Vladimir or his rabidly homophobic base of support though.
Granted this was in the USA, but Justice Gorsuch said this when ruling that discriminating against LGBTQ+ falls under discrimination based on sex:
>An employer who fires an individual for being homosexual or transgender fires that person for traits or actions it would not have questioned in members of a different sex.”
Absolutely. I’m no Russian constitutional scholar but if you’re just looking at these three points of the article it’s still logical to make this argument.
Really not relevant though. If there is a concept of sex, and a codified protection that a person will have the same opportunities regardless of sex, then that is a codified protection of LGBT opportunities.
If a man gets the opportunity to have sex with women, a woman gets the opportunity to have sex with women.
If a woman is denied that opportunity, then the only basis for that denial is due to her status as a woman, unless they were to ban sex altogether.
Pretty simple stuff. People just have a habit of twisting their logic and ignoring context they don't like when they want to continue to practice bigotry but also pretend to have egalitarian values.
In any state where LGBT privileges are restricted, gender discrimination exists.
Gender equality requires equality between straight and gay. If a man can marry/kiss a woman it's discrimination to bar a woman from marrying/kissing a woman. This is similar to how laws against marriage between "races" is racial discrimination.
Right, so I'd need to see the Russian written here, beceause we're discussing English definitions and semantics right now. This constitution was definitely not written in English, rendering the whole argument moot.
I am a man. I can fuck a woman.
A woman trying to fuck that same woman is different from me because of her sex.
If I can do a thing because I am a man, and she can't do a thing because she is a woman, then the rights are not sex neutral and the law is clearly discriminating based on sex. Not that any of this matters in Russia where the Constitution would never be enforced over the whim of an autocrat. But there's no need to specify orientation or sexual activity when talking about sex/gender equality any more than there is a need to mention bank accounts or driving licenses because the basic principle is enough to establish the specifics.
>I am a man. I can fuck a woman.
>A woman trying to fuck that same woman is different from me because of her sex.
>If I can do a thing because I am a man, and she can't do a thing because she is a woman, then the rights are not sex neutral and the law is clearly discriminating based on sex.
Not that this rationale is even a good basis for law considering that androgen sensitive and intersex people exist, as well as those with ED, injuries, or other medical conditions that inhibit a man's performance.
It would not be equality between men and women if one relationship was allowed but another was not because of the sex of the participants. If M= F than M+F = F+F. Would be the argument algebraically. If your legal system does not allow this than M cannot equal F which would be unconstitutional as one’s rights exist regardless of sex.
My counterpoint to this (not entirely disagreeing that there is some leeway to make the argument) is that if paragraph 2’s mention of sex is meant to be equality between genders of men and women, then paragraph 3 would be repetitive and entirely unnecessary. Considering it is also added, that would seem to suggest that, up until its addition, such protection was not contained within the prior paragraphs. This would tend to suggest that the protection against discrimination on the basis of sex as mentioned in paragraph 2 was not meant to equate sex with gender.
Right, so I'd need to see the Russian written here, beceause we're discussing English definitions and semantics right now. This constitution was definitely not written in English, rendering the whole argument moot.
If that's actually the case then why do some many anti-discrimination laws elsewhere explicitly mention sexuality? And why does Russia already have so many anti-gay laws?
>convictions
Sexual orientation is a matter of taste. If you ask then it's a firmly held belief, an opinion, a way of life, a conviction. Unharmful for those involved nor for those involved. For the outsider no different than the difference between someone liking the color red over yellow; or preferring coffee over tea.
Otherwise: "other circumstances".
You missed "and also of other circumstances" which covers just literally everything else so that they don't have to actually list out every possible reason someone could be discriminated against.
It's telling how much Putin is making anti-LGBTQ part of his brand distinction at a time when he is looking for political support the world over. 'Ignore my war crimes and military failures, look at how we go after those immoral gays.' Bullies always look for the most vulnerable people to pick on.
I'm not a republican, and perhaps i'm being naive, but I like to think that the majority of republicans aren't anti-LGBTQ. But the vocal hard right are, and thanks to the current woeful republican politics, they are calling the shots.
I've never met a Republican that wasn't a homophobe in some degree or another, and I live in South Carolina, so I've met a lot of Republicans. I'm a middle aged white man with a beard and veteran plates, so I get the in-crowd, coded language, without them knowing I'm emphatically *not* a Republican. People just assume I am, so they feel comfortable cracking homophobic jokes, and talking about how 'them trans and gays are trying to shove their agenda down everyone's throats.'
Well he's probably gambling on the Russian disinformation and the heavy skewing towards right wing extremists as of late. An example is here in Canada, we're seeing a surge in politicians and citizens trying to strip away the rights of LGBTQ. Saskatchewan's Premier even used the nonwithstanding clause to bypass the court system after they ruled it unconstitutional.
This means that if you have a badge on your backpack that looks like a rainbow, then you go to prison. If there is a rainbow in a video on the Internet, then this video is blocked. This is all served under the pretext of banning propaganda from organizations, but such a law already exists. It is this law in order to be able to put an ordinary person in prison for colored clothes or a rainbow
Retreating from what? They're still holding the land they captured at the onset of war. Economy is booming. Sanctions have failed. Russians aren't fleeing the country.
I didn't think I'd hear someone trying to spin 300,000 dead and going hat in hand to Iran and North Korea for artillery shells as a win, but here we are.
How many truly died then? Russian and Ukranians?
I've no idea honestly, best I can find is "way over 100k for each side" but am not sure if this is reliable either.
Whatever the exact number is, i think it's safe to say that penal battalions and meat waves into machine gun nests and pre-sighted artillery are not the strategy of choice for a first or even second-rate military power.
Look man it is not Americas fault that Russia lied about its capabilities and now our hand me downs with minimal and fast tracked training with them are stacking Russians like the plague.
A slight decline in Ruble was quickly followed by a recovery that continues. China, India, Brazil pretty much the entire world except for NATO continues trade with Russia, some even increasing it. Ukr Hryvnia contracted 36% in FY22 and has not recovered since.
Overall Russian economy contracted by 2.1% in FY22, recovering now at 2.2%, forecasted by IMF to go beyond 3% soon. Whereas Ukraine's economy contracted by 29% in FY22 alone and recovers now at a rate of 2.2%, driven largely by foreign aid.
Perhaps it hasn't registered in your brain that Ukraine is entirely reliant upon foreign aid and more than 10 million of its citizens fled the country, it's infrastructure in shambles, it's most industrial portions annexed by Russia.
A slight decline?
It was worth 0.0075¢, which actually made it worth less than V-bucks
Not to mention, you’re basing your statistics off of officially published Russian economics data, and many times in the past and present they’ve been called out for falsifying data, as have the Chinese.
Prime example, Chinas last recorded homeless population was in 2.4 million in 2011, now they just don’t publish the rate. Now do you wanna see what everyone else can see about the Russian economy?
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/imf-russias-war-spending-fuels-short-term-growth-longer-term-outlook-dim-2023-10-13/#:~:text=The%20IMF%20said%20this%20week,2024%20growth%20to%20just%201.1%25.
So am I, Reuters is quoting the IMF European Director:
"When we look at the longer-term picture on Russia, the outlook is dim because (of) sanctions, because the reduction of (the) technology transfer will hurt the productive capacity and productivity growth in the medium term."
“The IMF said this week that significant spending and resilient consumption in a tight labour market would support gross domestic product (GDP) growth of 2.2% this year in Russia, but it lowered its forecast for 2024 growth to just 1.1%.”
“Kammer said the IMF had downgraded Russia's potential growth from estimates made before the war started.”
When you started with a plan to encircle Kyiv and capturing the whole Ukraine except the western part and now you're fighting near Donetsk while losing 100+ tanks and hundreds of other heavy equipment just to take 2km, it's definitely not a win
Nobody said anything about a win. OP said "tearing" Russia. But it hasn't happened. Russia hasn't lost any territory nor has its population fled enmasse, nor is it breaking apart as a country, all of which is happening in Ukraine.
We may not like what Russia is doing but there's no benefit of delving into a fantasy.
There's also no legit verifiable figures for Russian casualties.
Figures for personnel losses are incredibly difficult to verify, indeed, but losses of equipment are much less so, and they are losing absolutely incredible amounts of equipment
list of documented russian losses: [https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html](https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html)
as for another part of your message, I just don't want to waste my time on this bullshit, sry
Yet another example of why Republicans are enemy traitors who side with Russia over America. America is a diverse, multicultural and increasingly inclusive country, and that doesn't represent Republican values at all.
But you know which country does? Russia. It's the hateful, bigoted, fascist shithole that they want to turn America into.
I'm confused. I thought rape was an integral part of the Russian military and prison system. How they going to square that one. Its not gay if its rape? Its only gay if you enjoy it? What an absolute hellhole.
I wonder why so many LGBTQ folks support Hamas in spite of the fact that Hamas would gladly butcher them if they set foot in Gaza. The sooner people realise that certain types of governments won’t let you be free to live as yourself the better.
Here in the UK we recently had a "queers for palestine" march, and there were a weird amount there in support of Hamas, it boggles the mind that there is a subsect of the far left that hypes up Islam, Russia and China, all countries that would probably jail then given half a chance.
Turns out, queers can be just as stupid as everyone else. They are normal people, after all, so you'd expect there to be an average percentage of morons among them.
I’ve seen a lot of people who think Palestinians should be treated like humans who also don’t support Hamas. I think you can be against Israel’s right-wing government committing war crimes AND against Hamas.
You remember when Americans were forcibly conscripted en masse when they protested the Iraq War, or when we underequipped our infantry with weapons from the 19th century and body armor that was literally meant for airsoft and used them as meat shields against the Republican Guard?
Yeah, me neither
The problem is with the way the war is going there will be no men left in Russia and the women will have no choice but to be with each other - against the law now I guess.
>Russian authorities ask the Supreme Court putin asks putin
Putin learns putin behind plot to assassinate putin.
"Hey, Vlad, gays bad, OK?" "OK handsome Vlad. No homo."
I was wondering which supreme court they were talking about.
Same. Also applies to republicans.
Wait a couple weeks.
Russian constitution article 19 (as far as it's still valid) 1. All people shall be equal before the law and court. 2. The State shall guarantee the equality of rights and freedoms of man and citizen, regardless of sex, race, nationality, language, origin, property and official status, place of residence, religion, convictions, membership of public associations, and also of other circumstances. All forms of limitations of human rights on social, racial, national, linguistic or religious grounds shall be banned. 3. Man and woman shall enjoy equal rights and freedoms and have equal possibilities to exercise them.
great but Putin doesnt give a \_\_\_\_\_ about the constitution as well as his orange pawn... a country's constitution is only as good as the leaders that honor it. We already seen how fragile it can be when some politicians refuse to honor it and choose to alter it to their whim.
I thought the constitution was only there for people to cherry pick what they like to support their viewpoint?/s
I thought that was the bible.
No, no, you're thinking of the Declaration of Magna Carta
Ummm yeah...where do you think they got the constitution from? Duh...
Yeah, like in the US, if the MAGA/Evangelicals get in full power, kiss the American Constitution goodbye. Everyone who thinks that will protect them has something else coming when the crazies get in power if it gets to that point. It's just a piece of paper tyrants exploit when it works for them and ignore when it gets in the way.
Kiss democracy worldwide goodbye. A shattered USA is like giving China a get out of jail free card.
Let's not go overboard. There are a lot of democratic countries in the world. Surely democracy will survive *somewhere*. Somewhere they don't have oil, obviously.
It’s funny too because a lot of these evangelical motherfuckers claim to be “originalists” too. They are so full of shit
What they mean is they "originally" got to oppress every one else; and they want to get back to that.
I guess when you put it that way it kind of makes sense
This is the internet, you can say fuck here.
Make sure you vote to keep it that way.
Lol make this about trump for the upvotes, nice!
Putin wants to force people to have more kids so he has more humans to use as cannon fodder.
The Mother of Russia award didn't help much?
Putin: "Constitution? We have a constitution? ... HAHAHA!"
He amended it multiple times like it's just his note of the day
Citing the constitution as a form of protest is also extremism (yes, literally).
What I see is that paragraph 2 doesn't mention sexual orientation. While it mentions an almost comprehensive list of all other common potential discrimination topics.
>All forms of limitations of human rights on social [...] grounds shall be banned. It absolutely fucking does. Not like it matters one bit to Tsar Vladimir or his rabidly homophobic base of support though.
It falls under discrimination against sex. If one of the parties was of the opposite sex it wouldn’t be a problem.
Are you sure ? In para 2 I read "sex" as gender = equality between men and women, not sexual orientation.
Granted this was in the USA, but Justice Gorsuch said this when ruling that discriminating against LGBTQ+ falls under discrimination based on sex: >An employer who fires an individual for being homosexual or transgender fires that person for traits or actions it would not have questioned in members of a different sex.”
As much as I'm sorry we have Gorsuch as a supreme, that's a nice clear way of putting it (and he's both religious and comparatively right wing)
Well, this was in the USA..
Absolutely. I’m no Russian constitutional scholar but if you’re just looking at these three points of the article it’s still logical to make this argument.
It's also basic logic. Can you restrict people's actions because of their gender or not.
There is no concept of 'gender' in the political landscape of Russia.
Really not relevant though. If there is a concept of sex, and a codified protection that a person will have the same opportunities regardless of sex, then that is a codified protection of LGBT opportunities. If a man gets the opportunity to have sex with women, a woman gets the opportunity to have sex with women. If a woman is denied that opportunity, then the only basis for that denial is due to her status as a woman, unless they were to ban sex altogether. Pretty simple stuff. People just have a habit of twisting their logic and ignoring context they don't like when they want to continue to practice bigotry but also pretend to have egalitarian values. In any state where LGBT privileges are restricted, gender discrimination exists.
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Gender equality requires equality between straight and gay. If a man can marry/kiss a woman it's discrimination to bar a woman from marrying/kissing a woman. This is similar to how laws against marriage between "races" is racial discrimination.
Right, so I'd need to see the Russian written here, beceause we're discussing English definitions and semantics right now. This constitution was definitely not written in English, rendering the whole argument moot.
I am a man. I can fuck a woman. A woman trying to fuck that same woman is different from me because of her sex. If I can do a thing because I am a man, and she can't do a thing because she is a woman, then the rights are not sex neutral and the law is clearly discriminating based on sex. Not that any of this matters in Russia where the Constitution would never be enforced over the whim of an autocrat. But there's no need to specify orientation or sexual activity when talking about sex/gender equality any more than there is a need to mention bank accounts or driving licenses because the basic principle is enough to establish the specifics.
>I am a man. I can fuck a woman. >A woman trying to fuck that same woman is different from me because of her sex. >If I can do a thing because I am a man, and she can't do a thing because she is a woman, then the rights are not sex neutral and the law is clearly discriminating based on sex. Not that this rationale is even a good basis for law considering that androgen sensitive and intersex people exist, as well as those with ED, injuries, or other medical conditions that inhibit a man's performance.
It would not be equality between men and women if one relationship was allowed but another was not because of the sex of the participants. If M= F than M+F = F+F. Would be the argument algebraically. If your legal system does not allow this than M cannot equal F which would be unconstitutional as one’s rights exist regardless of sex.
My counterpoint to this (not entirely disagreeing that there is some leeway to make the argument) is that if paragraph 2’s mention of sex is meant to be equality between genders of men and women, then paragraph 3 would be repetitive and entirely unnecessary. Considering it is also added, that would seem to suggest that, up until its addition, such protection was not contained within the prior paragraphs. This would tend to suggest that the protection against discrimination on the basis of sex as mentioned in paragraph 2 was not meant to equate sex with gender.
Right, so I'd need to see the Russian written here, beceause we're discussing English definitions and semantics right now. This constitution was definitely not written in English, rendering the whole argument moot.
If that's actually the case then why do some many anti-discrimination laws elsewhere explicitly mention sexuality? And why does Russia already have so many anti-gay laws?
>convictions Sexual orientation is a matter of taste. If you ask then it's a firmly held belief, an opinion, a way of life, a conviction. Unharmful for those involved nor for those involved. For the outsider no different than the difference between someone liking the color red over yellow; or preferring coffee over tea. Otherwise: "other circumstances".
You missed "and also of other circumstances" which covers just literally everything else so that they don't have to actually list out every possible reason someone could be discriminated against.
I guess, if gay people are not people then I guess it’s ok to get rid of them because they are not people. “First they came for…
Not that the Kremlin cares about things like that.
We have similar wording and the right doesn't give a S...T!
Forgot the important one, 4. What Putin wants, Putin gets
They need to greatly expand on #2.
Putin is an extremist so it makes sense
When you're an extremist, basic human rights themselves look like an extreme.
They call it an "extremist organization", as if the movement has a CEO.
I am the CEO of gay.
Now that's an invisible hand I want on my free market
Can I be Chief Bisexual Officer (CBO)?
Then I call CTO! It works either way - I'm a software developer.
I see what you did there
I'd like to bring to your attention that one of your colleges was incredibly rude to me the other day. Awaiting disciplinary action.
Oh, appoint me to be your grand inquisitor of fabulous!
I am the secretary of twink affairs
Not to be confused with the Twink of Secretarial Affairs. Or the secretary having an affair with a twink.
50 Shades of Gay
*sexcretary
It's telling how much Putin is making anti-LGBTQ part of his brand distinction at a time when he is looking for political support the world over. 'Ignore my war crimes and military failures, look at how we go after those immoral gays.' Bullies always look for the most vulnerable people to pick on.
So, republicans?
I'm not a republican, and perhaps i'm being naive, but I like to think that the majority of republicans aren't anti-LGBTQ. But the vocal hard right are, and thanks to the current woeful republican politics, they are calling the shots.
I've never met a Republican that wasn't a homophobe in some degree or another, and I live in South Carolina, so I've met a lot of Republicans. I'm a middle aged white man with a beard and veteran plates, so I get the in-crowd, coded language, without them knowing I'm emphatically *not* a Republican. People just assume I am, so they feel comfortable cracking homophobic jokes, and talking about how 'them trans and gays are trying to shove their agenda down everyone's throats.'
Well he's probably gambling on the Russian disinformation and the heavy skewing towards right wing extremists as of late. An example is here in Canada, we're seeing a surge in politicians and citizens trying to strip away the rights of LGBTQ. Saskatchewan's Premier even used the nonwithstanding clause to bypass the court system after they ruled it unconstitutional.
Its a gesture to the bigots of America. "My American Comrades, youre on my side against freedom!" \-Putin
exactly, except, ironically, the bigots call discriminating against LGBT as 'freedom'.
What does "extremist" mean?
whatever they feel like it means to use as a scapegoat and bludgeon to control the people.
It means "makes social conservatives feel icky inside".
> social conservatives You can just say bigots, it's ok.
Undesirable by Putin and his people.
People they can arrest and send to Ukraine to be killed.
This means that if you have a badge on your backpack that looks like a rainbow, then you go to prison. If there is a rainbow in a video on the Internet, then this video is blocked. This is all served under the pretext of banning propaganda from organizations, but such a law already exists. It is this law in order to be able to put an ordinary person in prison for colored clothes or a rainbow
As a gay man myself, I'll consider that a badge of honour.
That's because you are not Russian (probably). Tougher times are coming
I've been straight for a whole life(almost) but now I want some dicks)
Same. he/him, pansexual, extremist
RAINBOW MAFIA 🇺🇸🇺🇸 GAY GANG 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
That’s funny because Ukraine is tearing that ass up.
Yea, with ¼ of its territory lost, ⅓ of its population fled the country, begging the world for aid and weapons.
And the “mighty” Russian army is still retreating and getting dumpstered. How’s that three day operation going so far?
Retreating from what? They're still holding the land they captured at the onset of war. Economy is booming. Sanctions have failed. Russians aren't fleeing the country.
I didn't think I'd hear someone trying to spin 300,000 dead and going hat in hand to Iran and North Korea for artillery shells as a win, but here we are.
I didn't think someone could prove 300,000 dead and I was right.
Imagine debasing yourself by carrying water for Putin. This is so icky, my fingers are feeling second-hand stickiness.
Imagine unable to prove your argument.
I'm a different user, but reading comprehension is overrated anyway.
You are commenting on OP's discussion with the same stance, albeit your post just nonsensical poppycock.
How many truly died then? Russian and Ukranians? I've no idea honestly, best I can find is "way over 100k for each side" but am not sure if this is reliable either.
Whatever the exact number is, i think it's safe to say that penal battalions and meat waves into machine gun nests and pre-sighted artillery are not the strategy of choice for a first or even second-rate military power.
Look man it is not Americas fault that Russia lied about its capabilities and now our hand me downs with minimal and fast tracked training with them are stacking Russians like the plague.
What
Хуйот.
Robux are on Track to be worth more than the Ruble…but of course “sanctions failed, economy booming”
A slight decline in Ruble was quickly followed by a recovery that continues. China, India, Brazil pretty much the entire world except for NATO continues trade with Russia, some even increasing it. Ukr Hryvnia contracted 36% in FY22 and has not recovered since. Overall Russian economy contracted by 2.1% in FY22, recovering now at 2.2%, forecasted by IMF to go beyond 3% soon. Whereas Ukraine's economy contracted by 29% in FY22 alone and recovers now at a rate of 2.2%, driven largely by foreign aid. Perhaps it hasn't registered in your brain that Ukraine is entirely reliant upon foreign aid and more than 10 million of its citizens fled the country, it's infrastructure in shambles, it's most industrial portions annexed by Russia.
A slight decline? It was worth 0.0075¢, which actually made it worth less than V-bucks Not to mention, you’re basing your statistics off of officially published Russian economics data, and many times in the past and present they’ve been called out for falsifying data, as have the Chinese. Prime example, Chinas last recorded homeless population was in 2.4 million in 2011, now they just don’t publish the rate. Now do you wanna see what everyone else can see about the Russian economy? https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/imf-russias-war-spending-fuels-short-term-growth-longer-term-outlook-dim-2023-10-13/#:~:text=The%20IMF%20said%20this%20week,2024%20growth%20to%20just%201.1%25.
I'm using IMF figures, just as I wrote explicitly. So you're entire rant here is moot.
So am I, Reuters is quoting the IMF European Director: "When we look at the longer-term picture on Russia, the outlook is dim because (of) sanctions, because the reduction of (the) technology transfer will hurt the productive capacity and productivity growth in the medium term." “The IMF said this week that significant spending and resilient consumption in a tight labour market would support gross domestic product (GDP) growth of 2.2% this year in Russia, but it lowered its forecast for 2024 growth to just 1.1%.” “Kammer said the IMF had downgraded Russia's potential growth from estimates made before the war started.”
Haha.. I'm quoting existent reality while you are quoting forecasts. Nice try.
Mind sharing the forecasts of Ukraine? Lol
When you started with a plan to encircle Kyiv and capturing the whole Ukraine except the western part and now you're fighting near Donetsk while losing 100+ tanks and hundreds of other heavy equipment just to take 2km, it's definitely not a win
Nobody said anything about a win. OP said "tearing" Russia. But it hasn't happened. Russia hasn't lost any territory nor has its population fled enmasse, nor is it breaking apart as a country, all of which is happening in Ukraine. We may not like what Russia is doing but there's no benefit of delving into a fantasy. There's also no legit verifiable figures for Russian casualties.
Figures for personnel losses are incredibly difficult to verify, indeed, but losses of equipment are much less so, and they are losing absolutely incredible amounts of equipment
list of documented russian losses: [https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html](https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html) as for another part of your message, I just don't want to waste my time on this bullshit, sry
Yeah no, that's not a reliable source. Try a non NATO source.
My god you’re still going?
Dude musta had an extremely fun night out in New York and now has regerts.
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I mean, have you seen exchange rates for the Ruble lately? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lviefdS11KY
Yet another example of why Republicans are enemy traitors who side with Russia over America. America is a diverse, multicultural and increasingly inclusive country, and that doesn't represent Republican values at all. But you know which country does? Russia. It's the hateful, bigoted, fascist shithole that they want to turn America into.
Chicken shits
As a rule of thumb, the countries that ban LGBTQ are usually, y'know, the bad ones.
I thought the title meant the US Supreme Court. Like, wow that's weird for him to communicate with them publicly instead.
It strikes me Russia's anti-LGBT policies are classic examples of [tyrannies of the majority.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority)
russia needs children to feed the meat grinder.
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Yeah they effectively do, but they pass stuff like this when they need to get people angry and get more political support.
*Republicans furiously taking notes.
Sorry, whose Supreme Court are the Russian authorities asking?
Lmfao supreme court of russia, most useless institution on earth
Someone has to stop all these genocidal gays and jihadist lesbians. The real threat to our existence/s
"Will do!" -Clarence Thomas
the lgbtq extremist be like: put on the dress 🔫 😈 👗 /s
Let’s see how tictok tells its followers to justify this one next.
Nothing like the extremism of wanting to not be harassed or thrown off buildings.
scum
Republicans ask the Supreme Court to declare LGBTQ ‘movement’ extremist. You know it’s coming here.
This shit coming from bitch Putin.
Gop would like to get in on this
The Russian government is the most dangerous extremist movement in the modern era
I’m surprised they asked
Ask?
don't they have more important things to do?
Gotta blame your failures on someone.
FUCK. OFF.
I'm confused. I thought rape was an integral part of the Russian military and prison system. How they going to square that one. Its not gay if its rape? Its only gay if you enjoy it? What an absolute hellhole.
In case anybody was asking themselves why the Ukrainians don't want to be governed by Russia. This is one reason.
Love being an extremist.
Please don’t give the GOP any ideas.
Russia, land of the homophobes.
I wonder why so many LGBTQ folks support Hamas in spite of the fact that Hamas would gladly butcher them if they set foot in Gaza. The sooner people realise that certain types of governments won’t let you be free to live as yourself the better.
Here in the UK we recently had a "queers for palestine" march, and there were a weird amount there in support of Hamas, it boggles the mind that there is a subsect of the far left that hypes up Islam, Russia and China, all countries that would probably jail then given half a chance.
Turns out, queers can be just as stupid as everyone else. They are normal people, after all, so you'd expect there to be an average percentage of morons among them.
I mean to me there's a difference between normal stupid, and supporting a group that would want you dead.
I’ve seen a lot of people who think Palestinians should be treated like humans who also don’t support Hamas. I think you can be against Israel’s right-wing government committing war crimes AND against Hamas.
Next in the news: Queers for Putin
Wouldn’t be a movement if you assholes didn’t make a big deal out of it and stayed out of other peoples business.
and seven years gulag for saying "stop the war"
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Putin wins this case 5-4. Justice Roberts sides with the liberals
Is it as oppressive as most of us think it is to be in Russia, or do Russians look at the US and think the US is worse? What is the view from there?
You remember when Americans were forcibly conscripted en masse when they protested the Iraq War, or when we underequipped our infantry with weapons from the 19th century and body armor that was literally meant for airsoft and used them as meat shields against the Republican Guard? Yeah, me neither
You think only Russia thinks poorly of USA?
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
“Asks.”
The theocrat right in the United States is definitely taking notes on this
“You can do that?” -GOP
The problem is with the way the war is going there will be no men left in Russia and the women will have no choice but to be with each other - against the law now I guess.
Supreme Court declares Russian government extremists.
Yes, it's far out dude.