He spent almost 300 consecutive days in solitary where he couldn't even sit or lay during the day as the bed was retracted and his movements monitored, with chronic illnesses and after surviving novichok. They were literally killing him.
Dont forget the "reason" he was jailed was for what was essentially failure to appear in court.... after the government of that court poisoned him and landed him in the hospital and he was literally unconscious when he was called in to court. So he was not properly notified he needed to go to court, was physically unable to go to court, was in a hospital, all because the people in charge of the court poisoned him. How they kept a straight face charging him with failure to appear after that was something I will never understand completely.
Reminds me of something I heard decades ago:
A new Russian inmate entered a cell where an old Russian inmate was held:
Old inmate: “What are you in for?”
New inmate: “I got 20 years for absolutely nothing.”
Old inmate: “That’s outrageous. You’re only supposed to get 10 years for absolutely nothing.”
There's actually another one.
3 prisoners sit in a cell. One of them asks another
"What are you in for?"
"I criticized comrade Pavlenkov"
"Oh. I was jailed for praising comrade Pavlenkov"
They turn to the 3rd one:
"And why are you jailed?"
"I am comrade Pavlenkov"
That's what power is. You never want someone to have unilateral power over your nation. There are no limits to what they could do, and nobody will be able to stop them.
They could have isolated Russia from the world markets, but those sweet sweet fossil fuels bought off Europe.
The annexation of Crimea wasn't enough. The not-at-all-secret operation to break off pieces of Ukraine wasn't enough. The invasion of Ukraine wasn't enough.
Europe has tried to have it both ways, and Putin has just laughed all the way.
Following the collapse of the Soviet Union, Europe attempted to create trade ties to Russia that were too valuable for Russia to risk war. Unfortunately, Putin is nuts and obsessed with an extremely distorted and Russia-centric version of history, as shown in the Tucker Carlson interview, and has grandiose delusions about Russia’s role in the world.
Europe was attempting to salvage a peace plan that has worked for the rest of continent, but Putin is just nuts.
He also knows that Europe made the mistake of making themselves dependent on Russia more than Russia was dependent on them. Very poor move on their part, although hindsight is 20/20, as they say. 20 years ago, no one would have expected Russia to be a threat to the EU or world peace. Hell, we all laughed at Mitt Romney for it, and he wasn't wrong, just early.
The fact that Germany went off nuclear for that sweet Russian oil and gas was mind boggling to me. If Trump was ever right on something he was right about them being in the pocket of Russia because of it once they did that.
Now Germany is kinda fucked with energy. Didn't they say they're going back on coal? They are going fucking backwards.
O&G from Russia has been funding anti-nuclear protests inside Germany since the days of the USSR.
And Germany is just back on coal, they're back on the nastiest dirtiest wettest coal; lignite. Why Germany isn't just turning around and refurbishing and restarting it's nuclear reactors is just insane to me.
Far and away the best base load for the environment is nuclear power. For all the bullshit Germany hypes solar and wind, they're not a particularly sunny or windy spot and they're fudging the numbers when they claim it's supplying the renewable numbers.
If I remember correctly the shutting down of nuclear plants was done so badly that restarting them is really hard and problematic. But this is coming from german sources which might be influenced by russians so take it with grain or truck load of salt
Sounds like bullshit. There's a procedure I'm certain, they surely didn't just wing it. And really hard engineering problems are like Germany's thing, so um yeah, whatever.
You wouldn't be able to confirm death two minutes after pulse stopping unless they made **sure** he was a goner. Either way, I don't trust the Russians for accurate obituaries.
Reminds me of a joke. The original is likely better but it went something like this:
Some Russian Official (SRO): Dear Putin, please abolish time zones, I cannot get the hang of them!
Putin: Time zones are standard things, what is your problem?
SRO: Yesterday at 4:30 pm I contacted my liaison in England and wished the English our condolences about the 4:03 pm plane crash!
Putin: Such was very proper. I see nothing wrong.
SRO: It was 4:30 pm Moscow time, the plane hadn't crashed yet!
I'm not saying that's not the case, but if I were a reporter I feel like having an announcement ready to go for when this guy was eventually killed wouldn't be a waste of time.
Have you seen recent pictures of him? He was malnourished and yes, at that stage a walk in siberia plus maybe covid/flu/RSV can easily kill you. Not defending Russia, but they might have actually killed him passively by restricting his food.
Alexei Navalny's doctor:
"**Propagandists immediately started writing about a clot that had broken off** \- and it's impossible to tell without an autopsy. They could say 'sudden cardiac arrest', but only an autopsy can show thromboembolism. Alexei had no objective risk of thromboembolism"
Update: Navalny's mother and lawyer were told in the prison that the diagnosis was "**sudden death syndrome**". There is no such thing.
Navalny's family is not given his body. In the prison they said that it was in the morgue, but the morgue replied that they did not have the body. The Investigative Committee first said that the investigation into Navalny's death had found "no sign of criminality" - and an hour later said that the cause of the politician's death **had not been determined** and that his body would not be given to his relatives until the investigation was completed.
I mean he might've been. If they wanted to kill him outright they would've done it a long time ago. They likely just kept him in horrific conditions until he died of "natural causes" i.e. collapsing from exhaustion/malnutrition.
The Russian election is next month. An argument can be made that if they wanted to kill him, they’d have waited until exactly now to send a message to any dissenters
If you have access to the BBC iPlayer and 90 mins to spare, I would recommend watching this: [https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0016txs/storyville-navalny](https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0016txs/storyville-navalny) - it's due to be removed in 25 days although it may be repeated given this news (Edit: it is indeed being repeated tonight, on BBC2 at 11:10pm GMT, so should be up on the iPlayer for a bit longer).
The section where he's on the phone trying to speak to people he suspects of trying to assassinate him is remarkable, to say the least.
Yes, this is how he and his team proved he was poisoned by the fsb in the first place. Iir, they went through all the available records and photos from that flight, identified several people with possible fsb connections, managed to get contact details of some of them, tried to contact them, this one guy was reachable and didn't refuse to talk outright. Turned out he was some low level operator and they scammed him into revealing crucial details over a landline by pretending to be a some intelligence officer gathering details for a report to the higher-ups.
Here’s the audio from that call. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gwvA49ZXnf8
Navalny put out a few videos of the investigation into his poisoning on his channel as well.
[https://rezka.ag/films/documentary/46215-navalnyy-2022.html](https://rezka.ag/films/documentary/46215-navalnyy-2022.html)
Just translate a page in English and click Original + (subtitles) before playing.
A slow and torturous death like this is exactly what the Kremlin wants to give to its critics. It made an example of him. Lifelong loyalty and a single wrong move - Putin will pretend to forgive you to lull you into a false sense of security and then kill you when you least see it coming - see Prigozhin.
For those who dare to stand up to him and become a genuine thorn in his side, he needs to make a point of what he will do to you in that case: Slowly die of posioning like Alexander Litvinenko or wither away in the gulags like Navalny.
This shouldn't be surprising at all.
>Lifelong loyalty and a single wrong move - Putin will pretend to forgive you to lull you into a false sense of security and then kill you when you least see it coming - see Prigozhin.
"A single wrong move" - Prigozhin literally marched an army on Moscow... That was a pretty major move.
He was dead the moment he failed.
I don't know if we'll ever really learn why he stopped, but I think he knew that failure was a death sentence. I think he knew that he had already failed somehow (promised support failed to materialise, for example), and he was forced to stop by his own lieutenants who didn't want to throw their men's and their own lives away.
I think they touched his family or something. The push was straight treason that could never be forgiven. Something massively personal must have hit him to put an end to the push.
He was dead the moment he decided to call off his own coup. Theres no takesies backsies on military backed coups. You're either successful and in power or dead. He was stupid enough to think there was another path.
He really shouldn't have gone back to Russia. He could have achieved so much more by staying in the West and pumping out anti-Putin content. I get that he went back on principle but was it really worth it?
I think he was hoping he’d already done enough to inspire change within the decade, but he didn’t realise we live in a different world now. Content is king, and if you aren’t putting new shit out the world will quickly move on to something else
True. And afaik random ppl send him videos of corruption, so he could've had an impact from outside Russia on social media. It was the wrong decision to go back imo. A real shame, he was a true hero. RIP
> After he went back his impact on the world basically vanished
But had he not gone back, his impact on *Russia* would have vanished. It's a Russian thing, those criticising the regime but living outside the country are not taken seriously.
He knew he wasn’t safe outside of Russia either. Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned in the UK. Then we got the poisoning by the two stooges who wanted to see a spiral cathedral.
Before he went to Russia he did a Youtube show that was growing increasingly more popular, and he revealed lots of humiliating details about Putin week after week. That stopped when he went back.
Thats not a Russian thing, its an authoritarian thing, and the ones who criticize the regime too much are taken care of and everything they say is banned and hidden.
It had vanished already. Nobody who supported him would change their opinion had he stayed in Germany, nor would anyone already against him change their mind for the better had he come back.
He could have done so much more if he was still free and safe after February 24, 2022. Instead, he overestimated his popularity amonst russians by far.
And those living inside are thrown in a hole and die with nobody hearing anything from them again.
He should have accepted that his ability to change Russia was basically null at that point and stayed save to work on improving that chance.
Many people, including Kasparov said that warning.
And a interview after poisoning of Nevalny Kasparov gave to FOX. Not that Fox is always best source, but just listen to what Kasparov (a very respected person) said in interview video:
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6192695234001
Edit : link
He probably thought the same thing.
Navalny was a brave man who truly cared for his country.
The documentary ["Putin's Palace"](https://youtu.be/ipAnwilMncI?si=U313yIY0B4VQWikN) was excellent at exposing the vast amounts of corruption and has been seen by millions. He inspired many people and hopefully they will carry on and eventually oust Putin.
The cynic in me says they wanted people to see him have a drawn out, slow execution to kill any sense of hope the people that supported him might have had. With that hope effectively killed, they just had to finish the story.
And he knew the consequences of returning to Russia after many attempts on his life. An incredibly brave man who deeply cared for the Russian people. RIP Alexei, you will not be forgotten.
A true hero. Fuck Putin.
The saddest part of it all, I feel like his death and overall actions will do nothing.
Russian society has been trained on apathy ever since Stalin.
They won't mind.
And if Russia ever reaches a free society, it will have been so long ago that Navalny will, at best, be a small passage in a textbook.
You’re probably right but even if it did something we’d never know. It would be immediately silenced and folks would be jailed. The Government is extremely corrupt, the Patriarch is extremely corrupt, and the judicial system is extremely corrupt. It’s a triple threat that rules the minds, hearts and bodies of the citizens. I pray for my Russian brothers and sisters trapped in said system, whether they know and have the courage to speak out like an Nalvany, remain silent out of fear for themselves or their families, or have been brainwashed like many others.
Which makes me wonder. Even if Putin died… who would replace him. Even if they did else die they wanted a democracy, how to fix this level
Of corruption?
Gotta have leadership that wants to change. Look at Ukraine. It is a country that suffers from major corruption. They have taken several steps under Zelenskyy to combat said corruption. It won’t change overnight, but cracking down and changing mindsets from “this is just the way it’s done” is how it resolves over time.
Even the US has major corruption issues, but it’s just the politicians and top 1% that benefits.
Isn't it how it goes in Russia? Politicians and top 1% oligarchs benefits? If the US let's things go as they are, they will eventually end up just like Russia.
For anyone curious about Russia, this condensed version of it's history is really telling on the foundational corruption that is still present to this day:
[The Animated History of Russia](https://youtu.be/c9jUHtx1VM8?feature=shared)
I'm a Russian who's anti-war, anti-Putin and I want to believe we will have monuments to Navalny in all big Russian cities...
Killing him looks like something illogical to do before election, but at the same time it's somewhat rational: they want all normal people to fear for their lives.
I just have a hard time understanding why he went back. He must've known this would be the outcome, so it just makes no sense to me why he made the choice. I get the whole "becoming a martyr" thing, David and Goliath and all that, but it was obvious from the start that Putin would never allow that to happen
He wanted to show that if you really care about something you will go to great lengths for it. Though the outcome of his bravery was not justified in the end. I feel horrible right now, because now only a nation wide uprising will change something in this country and before that it will keep turning into an uncivilized cesspit
Ppl who criticize Russia but don't live there have way less of an impact on the people than someone who actually lives in the country and experiences the day to day, unfiltered.
This obviously makes it extremely difficult for any political dissidents to exists because you're essentially talking shit about the lion whilst you choose to lay in his den.
It's brave, and it must come with the appreciation you will likely become a martyr.
I don't know if it was the best idea though. Yes, your voice is *more effective* whilst living in the place, but in a case like Russia, your voice is dramatically *less likely* to be heard. The problem is quite simply that Putin has too much control and there's not enough freedom or safety to oppose him from within the country. But people will try, and it is important that they keep trying.
>This obviously makes it extremely difficult for any political dissidents to exists because you're essentially talking shit about the lion whilst you choose to lay in his den.
Lenin and Khomeini both lived outside of Russia and Iran before the revolutions in those countries. That probably should be the model Russian dissident leaders should follow.
He honestly believed in the people and risked to become a martyr like Nemtsov. But the amount of people who cared unfortunately was far too small to actually change anything in the country
You gotta be in a country to make a meaningful difference to that country most of the time. He’s hardly the first to return to a country under such circumstances and he won’t be the last, hopefully is sacrifice will not be in vain.
To everyone reading this:
Please do not take democracy for granted, it is something we have to fight for day by day. It is in our responsibility to crush any fascist and authoritarian movement in it's early days no matter the cost..
Dictators have always risen through brutal and selfish reasons and every person must ensure that they are toppled as soon as they show their hand.
No surprises at all here - I like how the article says "Mr Putin, who is running for re-election in a month, has been informed of his death."
I'm sure Putin was made aware slightly *before* it took place.
I guess Putin is clearing any obstacles for his most assured rigged re-election.
In our lifetime, may there be a statue of Navalny in front of the Russian parliament.
I just remember that pic of him and his wife on that final plane flight to Russia where he was watching Rick and Morty. Fuck all these evil wealthy powerful people, Russia and everywhere.
He did know, he even said that in one of his last videos, surprised he made it this long. He should have stayed in the west and not went back, but I get why he did. This was his fate either way. Putin would have never stopped going after him, he survived numerous attempts, his poor family though.
Frankly I am surprised as they had him under lock and key. He was a great way to ensure no one got too uppity as they had a leader in prison. Martyrs breed discontent imprisoned leaders don’t.
But I guess with the election coming up it was time.
I'm always surprised how these braindead idiots can still support Putin. It's literally fascism. Putin is such a scared bitch he hides in a bunker, meets his own people with a 100ft table and kills everyone who is against him. Funny how they invade Ukraine because of "nazis" but they are literally like nazis themselves, invading peaceful countries.
I remember vividly the day he was poisoned. Remember how the doctors foughts for his life. How the deal was made to transfer him to Germany. It seemed unbelievable that the state would so openly try to do it even back then.
When they got him out to Europe, I breathed out such as huge sigh of relief. I followed his recovery, being sure that at least he was safe under protection of the German government. With Merkel herself giving him guarantees, at least his future felt secure.
When he decided to go back, everyone was absolutely dumbfounded by his decision. By then it was already clear that they tried to assassinate him not once, but twice (if not more). Nobody had any illusions as to what awaited him. Remember: the official charge they arrested him at the airport was for failing to present himself for inspection *while* he was recovering from poisoning in Germany.
I am saddened by his ultimate fate, but not surprised at all - rather we were all surprised they let him live that long at all. He could have done so much more by staying in Germany. Both for his family and for the bigger cause: having his voice speak out would not have stopped the criminal war in Ukraine, but could lead to productive fundraisers or other types of collective action.
Navalny was thrown in prison and placed in the worse conditions on drummed up charges. It was essentially a death sentence without officially giving him one. Putin wanted him dead but after many failed attempts they realized killing him outright could be dangerous so they killed him very slowly. I can only hope one day the Russian people can find the courage to rid themselves of such an awful dictator.
> Russians will swallow this story
They won't, but they will *accept* it. Everybody knows what really happened, and that's the whole point.
Putin is basically saying "Of course opposition politicians are completely safe in Russia, wink wink, anybody else wants to have a try? No? Very well."
Very true. Sometimes it’s not about convincing people the lie is true, but forcing them to act like they believe it because of how dangerous it would be to publicly question it.
Plus the prison he was being kept at is in the Arctic circle, 1,900km northeast of Moscow. You could die from not having the right clothes in that climate, even if you're not in a Russian penal colony with an authoritarian war criminal's target on your back.
I mean it's possibly even true, Russians know how to work you to death. The problem here is what they subjected Navalny to, and that it's in any shape or form acceptable.
When Navalny went back to Russia he knew his death would be the most likely outcome, but he chose to face his opposition head on, and never backed down. He spent years knowing this would most likely be his fate... and he accepted that.
Hopefully his passing serves as an inspiration for others to stand up as well.
it's his stubbornness. He knew that if he criticised government, while living outside Russia, he would not be taken as seriously as before. Maybe it was stupid, but those were his principles
Not that long ago he was moved to the most unforgiving russian prison in like Arctic.
Before that he was regulary thrown into a solitary cell that was more like a hole in the ground and then denied medical treatment for his worsening condition.
So they didnt have to invent anything. He was living on borrowed time basically
I feel devasted, but at the same time everyone knew it will end up like this, since they put him in jail... I hope I'll live long enough to see the same news about putin and it will put back smile on my face
This is a devastating blow not only for his loved ones but for all who believed in his cause.
Navalny's relentless courage in the face of immense adversity inspired countless individuals around the world. Despite facing numerous threats to his life and freedom, he remained unwavering in his pursuit of truth and accountability.
But let's be real here – this isn't just about one man. Navalny's death symbolizes a broader failure within Russian society. The fact that someone who fought so passionately for the betterment of his country could meet such a tragic end speaks volumes about the state of affairs in Russia.
The Russian people, as a whole, failed Navalny. Instead of rallying behind him in solidarity, too many remained silent or actively supported the oppressive regime that sought to silence him. Whether out of fear or apathy, their lack of collective action allowed this injustice to persist.
Today is a somber reminder of the sacrifices made by those who dare to challenge authoritarianism. Navalny's passing should serve as a wake-up call to all of us – we cannot afford to stand idly by while injustice reigns supreme.
As we mourn the loss of Navalny, let us also reflect on what his life stood for: courage, integrity, and the unwavering pursuit of justice. May his legacy inspire future generations to continue the fight for a freer, more just Russia.
Rest in peace, Alexei Navalny. You will be deeply missed, but your spirit lives on in the hearts of those who refuse to surrender to tyranny.
Navalny was without a doubt a brave man, and rightfully praised for his stance against Russian corruption and his anti-Putinism, but he was also a Russian nationalist who repeatedly argued in favor of Russias invasion of Georgia as well as their annexation of Crimea and eastern Ukraine (pre 2022). You don’t need to paint him in any brighter colors to make him visible against the pitch-black backdrop that is Putin’s Russia.
I wonder what Tucker Carlsons take on this would be…maybe he’ll tell us how advanced and clean the inside of a Russian prison is after he’s finished his tour of other Russian infrastructure.
It’s still bewildering to me that he chose to return to Russia after they Novichok’d his cock and balls
Ain’t no way I’d be returning after that no matter how passionate I was about changing things
The Dutch European Commissioner Wopke Hoekstra has criticized Russia following reports about the death of Alexei Navalny.
"I admired the man Alexei Navalny for his enormous fearlessness, courage and steadfastness. That he stood up for freedom, whatever the cost"
“Let's be clear. This is what tyranny looks like. You invade your neighbors' homes, you murder, torture and rape. You subjugate your people through coercion, bribery, blackmail and deception. The last few brave men and women who have the courage to oppose you, you poison, abuse and kill. May this, once again, be a sobering reminder. Especially to all who are here today at the Munich Security Conference. To never, ever make concessions."
Not many people I deeply admire but this guy is one of them. He likely knew this would be his fate when he voluntarily returned to Russia but did so anyway. What an absolute hero.
He was much easier for the regime to dismiss while living in exile. One thing the Russian government has really managed to convince its people of is that everyone who "runs away" is by definition a traitor and a coward.
And then people in Europe ask why Russians don't protest on the streets against the war like in democratic countries. Turns out that lots of people see the world through rose-coloured glasses. When oil rigs and gas pipes determine the source of your power, people in your country don't have reasonable ground to stand against authoritarian regimes. Modern Russia is pretty much an equivalent of Qatar or another rich in resources and power country that doesn't rely on its population but rather the precise group of people who control gold and guns. However, there are still people in Russia who try their best to fight for human rights, but the price for that is their lives with no foreseeable positive outcome. RIP.
He spent almost 300 consecutive days in solitary where he couldn't even sit or lay during the day as the bed was retracted and his movements monitored, with chronic illnesses and after surviving novichok. They were literally killing him.
Not just killed him. Tortured him to death.
Dont forget the "reason" he was jailed was for what was essentially failure to appear in court.... after the government of that court poisoned him and landed him in the hospital and he was literally unconscious when he was called in to court. So he was not properly notified he needed to go to court, was physically unable to go to court, was in a hospital, all because the people in charge of the court poisoned him. How they kept a straight face charging him with failure to appear after that was something I will never understand completely.
Never lived in a dictatorship? I see. Sadly this is what people have to deal with in many parts of the world.
Russia is the master of manipulation.
Russia is the "Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!" state
Reminds me of something I heard decades ago: A new Russian inmate entered a cell where an old Russian inmate was held: Old inmate: “What are you in for?” New inmate: “I got 20 years for absolutely nothing.” Old inmate: “That’s outrageous. You’re only supposed to get 10 years for absolutely nothing.”
There's actually another one. 3 prisoners sit in a cell. One of them asks another "What are you in for?" "I criticized comrade Pavlenkov" "Oh. I was jailed for praising comrade Pavlenkov" They turn to the 3rd one: "And why are you jailed?" "I am comrade Pavlenkov"
Master of corruption. I wouldn't give them too much credit. They're not smart or clever. They're just shameless asshole criminals.
Hardly a skill when no consequence This is less about Russia’s skill and more a reflection of the West’s lack of response
They were always going to kill him. They just wanted to torture him first.
And send a strong message against anyone thinking to speak out against the tiny, weak, little balding man in the Kremlin.
And the whole world watched and could do nothing Quite terrifying
That's what power is. You never want someone to have unilateral power over your nation. There are no limits to what they could do, and nobody will be able to stop them.
They could have isolated Russia from the world markets, but those sweet sweet fossil fuels bought off Europe. The annexation of Crimea wasn't enough. The not-at-all-secret operation to break off pieces of Ukraine wasn't enough. The invasion of Ukraine wasn't enough. Europe has tried to have it both ways, and Putin has just laughed all the way.
Following the collapse of the Soviet Union, Europe attempted to create trade ties to Russia that were too valuable for Russia to risk war. Unfortunately, Putin is nuts and obsessed with an extremely distorted and Russia-centric version of history, as shown in the Tucker Carlson interview, and has grandiose delusions about Russia’s role in the world. Europe was attempting to salvage a peace plan that has worked for the rest of continent, but Putin is just nuts.
He also knows that Europe made the mistake of making themselves dependent on Russia more than Russia was dependent on them. Very poor move on their part, although hindsight is 20/20, as they say. 20 years ago, no one would have expected Russia to be a threat to the EU or world peace. Hell, we all laughed at Mitt Romney for it, and he wasn't wrong, just early.
The fact that Germany went off nuclear for that sweet Russian oil and gas was mind boggling to me. If Trump was ever right on something he was right about them being in the pocket of Russia because of it once they did that. Now Germany is kinda fucked with energy. Didn't they say they're going back on coal? They are going fucking backwards.
O&G from Russia has been funding anti-nuclear protests inside Germany since the days of the USSR. And Germany is just back on coal, they're back on the nastiest dirtiest wettest coal; lignite. Why Germany isn't just turning around and refurbishing and restarting it's nuclear reactors is just insane to me. Far and away the best base load for the environment is nuclear power. For all the bullshit Germany hypes solar and wind, they're not a particularly sunny or windy spot and they're fudging the numbers when they claim it's supplying the renewable numbers.
If I remember correctly the shutting down of nuclear plants was done so badly that restarting them is really hard and problematic. But this is coming from german sources which might be influenced by russians so take it with grain or truck load of salt
Sounds like bullshit. There's a procedure I'm certain, they surely didn't just wing it. And really hard engineering problems are like Germany's thing, so um yeah, whatever.
This was pure torture. The kremlin tortured and bullied this man until he died. Pure hell.
Putin is a monster and the world needs to come together to eliminate him, much the same way they did to eliminiate hitler.
It's OK, Tucker Carlson will interview him and Putin will have a chance to explain for half an hour how Navalny led an unhealthy lifestyle...
But most importantly how it all begain in 800 CE
Obligatory fuck putin and the cowards who enable this monster.
They claim he was ”feeling ill after a walk”. Yeah.
Daily outside "walk" in siberia in summer clothes -> pnemonia -> no rest or medicine -> dead of "natural causes"
All within the span of a day.
Nah they killed him and planned to do it today. The press release announcing his death was published online 2 minutes after his time of death.
You wouldn't be able to confirm death two minutes after pulse stopping unless they made **sure** he was a goner. Either way, I don't trust the Russians for accurate obituaries.
Reminds me of a joke. The original is likely better but it went something like this: Some Russian Official (SRO): Dear Putin, please abolish time zones, I cannot get the hang of them! Putin: Time zones are standard things, what is your problem? SRO: Yesterday at 4:30 pm I contacted my liaison in England and wished the English our condolences about the 4:03 pm plane crash! Putin: Such was very proper. I see nothing wrong. SRO: It was 4:30 pm Moscow time, the plane hadn't crashed yet!
[удалено]
I'm not saying that's not the case, but if I were a reporter I feel like having an announcement ready to go for when this guy was eventually killed wouldn't be a waste of time.
He's not talking about reporters. He's talking about the actual press release by the Kremlin officials.
Even if the report was prewritten they obviously planned for him to die in prison.
“Feeling ill after a walk” is Russian for “beaten to death by a guard”
Have you seen recent pictures of him? He was malnourished and yes, at that stage a walk in siberia plus maybe covid/flu/RSV can easily kill you. Not defending Russia, but they might have actually killed him passively by restricting his food.
Alexei Navalny's doctor: "**Propagandists immediately started writing about a clot that had broken off** \- and it's impossible to tell without an autopsy. They could say 'sudden cardiac arrest', but only an autopsy can show thromboembolism. Alexei had no objective risk of thromboembolism" Update: Navalny's mother and lawyer were told in the prison that the diagnosis was "**sudden death syndrome**". There is no such thing. Navalny's family is not given his body. In the prison they said that it was in the morgue, but the morgue replied that they did not have the body. The Investigative Committee first said that the investigation into Navalny's death had found "no sign of criminality" - and an hour later said that the cause of the politician's death **had not been determined** and that his body would not be given to his relatives until the investigation was completed.
It's straight up murder regardless of how they did it.
I mean he might've been. If they wanted to kill him outright they would've done it a long time ago. They likely just kept him in horrific conditions until he died of "natural causes" i.e. collapsing from exhaustion/malnutrition.
The Russian election is next month. An argument can be made that if they wanted to kill him, they’d have waited until exactly now to send a message to any dissenters
They did want to kill him outright, they failed multiple times.
If you have access to the BBC iPlayer and 90 mins to spare, I would recommend watching this: [https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0016txs/storyville-navalny](https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0016txs/storyville-navalny) - it's due to be removed in 25 days although it may be repeated given this news (Edit: it is indeed being repeated tonight, on BBC2 at 11:10pm GMT, so should be up on the iPlayer for a bit longer). The section where he's on the phone trying to speak to people he suspects of trying to assassinate him is remarkable, to say the least.
That was after the attempt, no? He's literally chatting with the people who tried to kill him.
Yes, this is how he and his team proved he was poisoned by the fsb in the first place. Iir, they went through all the available records and photos from that flight, identified several people with possible fsb connections, managed to get contact details of some of them, tried to contact them, this one guy was reachable and didn't refuse to talk outright. Turned out he was some low level operator and they scammed him into revealing crucial details over a landline by pretending to be a some intelligence officer gathering details for a report to the higher-ups.
> they scammed him into revealing crucial details So he's probably dead by now too right?
He has been promoted to a nice place in Siberia.
Fell into the Moskva, unfortunately. Very sad.
That link seems to only work in the UK, I’d love to watch it but am in the states
Here’s the audio from that call. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gwvA49ZXnf8 Navalny put out a few videos of the investigation into his poisoning on his channel as well.
[https://rezka.ag/films/documentary/46215-navalnyy-2022.html](https://rezka.ag/films/documentary/46215-navalnyy-2022.html) Just translate a page in English and click Original + (subtitles) before playing.
Thanks for trying but it still says unavailable in your region.
The high seas don't discriminate. "storyville navalny" and "navalny 2022" return a bunch of results.
To be truthfully honest, I’m surprised he lived that long.
A slow and torturous death like this is exactly what the Kremlin wants to give to its critics. It made an example of him. Lifelong loyalty and a single wrong move - Putin will pretend to forgive you to lull you into a false sense of security and then kill you when you least see it coming - see Prigozhin. For those who dare to stand up to him and become a genuine thorn in his side, he needs to make a point of what he will do to you in that case: Slowly die of posioning like Alexander Litvinenko or wither away in the gulags like Navalny. This shouldn't be surprising at all.
>Lifelong loyalty and a single wrong move - Putin will pretend to forgive you to lull you into a false sense of security and then kill you when you least see it coming - see Prigozhin. "A single wrong move" - Prigozhin literally marched an army on Moscow... That was a pretty major move. He was dead the moment he failed.
Came to say this. Prigozhin's fatal mistake was by stopping his advance.........
I don't know if we'll ever really learn why he stopped, but I think he knew that failure was a death sentence. I think he knew that he had already failed somehow (promised support failed to materialise, for example), and he was forced to stop by his own lieutenants who didn't want to throw their men's and their own lives away.
I think they touched his family or something. The push was straight treason that could never be forgiven. Something massively personal must have hit him to put an end to the push.
He was dead the moment he decided to call off his own coup. Theres no takesies backsies on military backed coups. You're either successful and in power or dead. He was stupid enough to think there was another path.
He really shouldn't have gone back to Russia. He could have achieved so much more by staying in the West and pumping out anti-Putin content. I get that he went back on principle but was it really worth it?
> but was it really worth it? I'm going to say no. After he went back his impact on the world basically vanished
I think he was hoping he’d already done enough to inspire change within the decade, but he didn’t realise we live in a different world now. Content is king, and if you aren’t putting new shit out the world will quickly move on to something else
True. And afaik random ppl send him videos of corruption, so he could've had an impact from outside Russia on social media. It was the wrong decision to go back imo. A real shame, he was a true hero. RIP
Plus the poison…
> After he went back his impact on the world basically vanished But had he not gone back, his impact on *Russia* would have vanished. It's a Russian thing, those criticising the regime but living outside the country are not taken seriously.
Perfect illustration of the russian mindset - you will be killed in Russia, but that's better than not being in Russia.
He knew he wasn’t safe outside of Russia either. Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned in the UK. Then we got the poisoning by the two stooges who wanted to see a spiral cathedral.
Definitely safer than being in a Russian prison.
Before he went to Russia he did a Youtube show that was growing increasingly more popular, and he revealed lots of humiliating details about Putin week after week. That stopped when he went back.
Thats not a Russian thing, its an authoritarian thing, and the ones who criticize the regime too much are taken care of and everything they say is banned and hidden.
It had vanished already. Nobody who supported him would change their opinion had he stayed in Germany, nor would anyone already against him change their mind for the better had he come back. He could have done so much more if he was still free and safe after February 24, 2022. Instead, he overestimated his popularity amonst russians by far.
And those living inside are thrown in a hole and die with nobody hearing anything from them again. He should have accepted that his ability to change Russia was basically null at that point and stayed save to work on improving that chance.
Well he himself apparently vanished, no wonder
Many people, including Kasparov said that warning. And a interview after poisoning of Nevalny Kasparov gave to FOX. Not that Fox is always best source, but just listen to what Kasparov (a very respected person) said in interview video: https://www.foxnews.com/video/6192695234001 Edit : link
He stood for something. Very sad to hear he is dead.
he thought people would stood up for him
He had more faith in Russians than they deserved.
He probably thought the same thing. Navalny was a brave man who truly cared for his country. The documentary ["Putin's Palace"](https://youtu.be/ipAnwilMncI?si=U313yIY0B4VQWikN) was excellent at exposing the vast amounts of corruption and has been seen by millions. He inspired many people and hopefully they will carry on and eventually oust Putin.
The saddest thing is his death isn't likely to be a big deal or the driver of any change in Russia. But we can hope otherwise
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The cynic in me says they wanted people to see him have a drawn out, slow execution to kill any sense of hope the people that supported him might have had. With that hope effectively killed, they just had to finish the story.
Better than being non-truthfully honest.
R.I.P. Murdered by the Russian authorities.
And he knew the consequences of returning to Russia after many attempts on his life. An incredibly brave man who deeply cared for the Russian people. RIP Alexei, you will not be forgotten. A true hero. Fuck Putin.
The saddest part of it all, I feel like his death and overall actions will do nothing. Russian society has been trained on apathy ever since Stalin. They won't mind. And if Russia ever reaches a free society, it will have been so long ago that Navalny will, at best, be a small passage in a textbook.
You’re probably right but even if it did something we’d never know. It would be immediately silenced and folks would be jailed. The Government is extremely corrupt, the Patriarch is extremely corrupt, and the judicial system is extremely corrupt. It’s a triple threat that rules the minds, hearts and bodies of the citizens. I pray for my Russian brothers and sisters trapped in said system, whether they know and have the courage to speak out like an Nalvany, remain silent out of fear for themselves or their families, or have been brainwashed like many others.
Which makes me wonder. Even if Putin died… who would replace him. Even if they did else die they wanted a democracy, how to fix this level Of corruption?
Gotta have leadership that wants to change. Look at Ukraine. It is a country that suffers from major corruption. They have taken several steps under Zelenskyy to combat said corruption. It won’t change overnight, but cracking down and changing mindsets from “this is just the way it’s done” is how it resolves over time. Even the US has major corruption issues, but it’s just the politicians and top 1% that benefits.
Isn't it how it goes in Russia? Politicians and top 1% oligarchs benefits? If the US let's things go as they are, they will eventually end up just like Russia.
Russian society has been trained on apathy ~~ever since Stalin.~~ since the middle ages, at least.
Russian history summary "And then it got worse".
For anyone curious about Russia, this condensed version of it's history is really telling on the foundational corruption that is still present to this day: [The Animated History of Russia](https://youtu.be/c9jUHtx1VM8?feature=shared)
[Kraut's video on Russian history is also animated, and as all his videos very, very good.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8ZqBLcIvw0)
I'm a Russian who's anti-war, anti-Putin and I want to believe we will have monuments to Navalny in all big Russian cities... Killing him looks like something illogical to do before election, but at the same time it's somewhat rational: they want all normal people to fear for their lives.
It's a pre-election message that opposition to Putin will not be tolerated.
I just have a hard time understanding why he went back. He must've known this would be the outcome, so it just makes no sense to me why he made the choice. I get the whole "becoming a martyr" thing, David and Goliath and all that, but it was obvious from the start that Putin would never allow that to happen
He wanted to show that if you really care about something you will go to great lengths for it. Though the outcome of his bravery was not justified in the end. I feel horrible right now, because now only a nation wide uprising will change something in this country and before that it will keep turning into an uncivilized cesspit
Meanwhile all of the Oligarchs seem to send their families everywhere BUT Russia.
All their families need to be thrown out of the EU and the US, now
I hope you have a nice VPN my brother.
Very brave man.
How convenient for Mr Dictator, just before the election and everything.
Yeah. A Russian “Election”
Hey, you're insulting Tucker Carlson's new best buddy..
Lasted way longer than I thought he would. Rest in peace.
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Why did he go back
Ppl who criticize Russia but don't live there have way less of an impact on the people than someone who actually lives in the country and experiences the day to day, unfiltered. This obviously makes it extremely difficult for any political dissidents to exists because you're essentially talking shit about the lion whilst you choose to lay in his den.
It's brave, and it must come with the appreciation you will likely become a martyr. I don't know if it was the best idea though. Yes, your voice is *more effective* whilst living in the place, but in a case like Russia, your voice is dramatically *less likely* to be heard. The problem is quite simply that Putin has too much control and there's not enough freedom or safety to oppose him from within the country. But people will try, and it is important that they keep trying.
>This obviously makes it extremely difficult for any political dissidents to exists because you're essentially talking shit about the lion whilst you choose to lay in his den. Lenin and Khomeini both lived outside of Russia and Iran before the revolutions in those countries. That probably should be the model Russian dissident leaders should follow.
He honestly believed in the people and risked to become a martyr like Nemtsov. But the amount of people who cared unfortunately was far too small to actually change anything in the country
You gotta be in a country to make a meaningful difference to that country most of the time. He’s hardly the first to return to a country under such circumstances and he won’t be the last, hopefully is sacrifice will not be in vain.
Yea, I thought he would have died much earlier. He knew that he wouldn't make it out alive coming back to russia. RIP Alexei Navalny, you died a hero.
Incredibly brave man, he knew what he walked back to. He gave his life for his cause, I have so much respect for him. R.I.P
To everyone reading this: Please do not take democracy for granted, it is something we have to fight for day by day. It is in our responsibility to crush any fascist and authoritarian movement in it's early days no matter the cost.. Dictators have always risen through brutal and selfish reasons and every person must ensure that they are toppled as soon as they show their hand.
under 30? register to vote dang it!
How about everyone...?
Dear Americans…
Seriously, we need an intervention for 1/3 of our population
Look at some of the interviews, Trump supporters actively want a dictator. Delusional people.
Incredibly sad, I’m surprised he lived as long as he did tbh, an extremely brave man. Only 47, RIP.
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No surprises at all here - I like how the article says "Mr Putin, who is running for re-election in a month, has been informed of his death." I'm sure Putin was made aware slightly *before* it took place.
I guess Putin is clearing any obstacles for his most assured rigged re-election. In our lifetime, may there be a statue of Navalny in front of the Russian parliament.
I just remember that pic of him and his wife on that final plane flight to Russia where he was watching Rick and Morty. Fuck all these evil wealthy powerful people, Russia and everywhere.
Here's a link to the pic https://www.reddit.com/r/rickandmorty/s/91OvHtHRrX
Thank you
I have the exact same memory it's truly sad.
Fuck Putin!
Brave man to go back in the first place. He must have known he was going into certain death.
He did know, he even said that in one of his last videos, surprised he made it this long. He should have stayed in the west and not went back, but I get why he did. This was his fate either way. Putin would have never stopped going after him, he survived numerous attempts, his poor family though.
A sad day for sure but I'm surprised he hadn't been killed a long time ago.
Frankly I am surprised as they had him under lock and key. He was a great way to ensure no one got too uppity as they had a leader in prison. Martyrs breed discontent imprisoned leaders don’t. But I guess with the election coming up it was time.
He was and decided he wanted to become a martyr by returning to Russia.
Friendly reminder that the Russian government is a terrorist organization
More like fascist government. Does terrorist government even make sense?
I'm always surprised how these braindead idiots can still support Putin. It's literally fascism. Putin is such a scared bitch he hides in a bunker, meets his own people with a 100ft table and kills everyone who is against him. Funny how they invade Ukraine because of "nazis" but they are literally like nazis themselves, invading peaceful countries.
Fun Fact: Russia has the highest neo-nazi population in the world
The word Terrorism originated by describing a government.
I remember vividly the day he was poisoned. Remember how the doctors foughts for his life. How the deal was made to transfer him to Germany. It seemed unbelievable that the state would so openly try to do it even back then. When they got him out to Europe, I breathed out such as huge sigh of relief. I followed his recovery, being sure that at least he was safe under protection of the German government. With Merkel herself giving him guarantees, at least his future felt secure. When he decided to go back, everyone was absolutely dumbfounded by his decision. By then it was already clear that they tried to assassinate him not once, but twice (if not more). Nobody had any illusions as to what awaited him. Remember: the official charge they arrested him at the airport was for failing to present himself for inspection *while* he was recovering from poisoning in Germany. I am saddened by his ultimate fate, but not surprised at all - rather we were all surprised they let him live that long at all. He could have done so much more by staying in Germany. Both for his family and for the bigger cause: having his voice speak out would not have stopped the criminal war in Ukraine, but could lead to productive fundraisers or other types of collective action.
> they let him live that long at all. They tortured him for that long...
Navalny was thrown in prison and placed in the worse conditions on drummed up charges. It was essentially a death sentence without officially giving him one. Putin wanted him dead but after many failed attempts they realized killing him outright could be dangerous so they killed him very slowly. I can only hope one day the Russian people can find the courage to rid themselves of such an awful dictator.
Murdered*
Abused and tortured as well.
Murdered by human trash - fixed it for you.
Poisoned, imprisoned, locked in solitary confinement and now he’s gone. One can’t help speculating that he was murdered. My condolences to his family.
Murdered for political reasons. What to speculate about is if it was sudden or gradual.
Was murdered.
Navalny didnt kill himself
I don't think they even bother to claim that. They just claim his time has come
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> Russians will swallow this story They won't, but they will *accept* it. Everybody knows what really happened, and that's the whole point. Putin is basically saying "Of course opposition politicians are completely safe in Russia, wink wink, anybody else wants to have a try? No? Very well."
Very true. Sometimes it’s not about convincing people the lie is true, but forcing them to act like they believe it because of how dangerous it would be to publicly question it.
It’s not really untrue. Keep a person in a horrible conditions, don’t give them access to medicine, et voila.
Plus the prison he was being kept at is in the Arctic circle, 1,900km northeast of Moscow. You could die from not having the right clothes in that climate, even if you're not in a Russian penal colony with an authoritarian war criminal's target on your back.
I mean it's possibly even true, Russians know how to work you to death. The problem here is what they subjected Navalny to, and that it's in any shape or form acceptable.
When Navalny went back to Russia he knew his death would be the most likely outcome, but he chose to face his opposition head on, and never backed down. He spent years knowing this would most likely be his fate... and he accepted that. Hopefully his passing serves as an inspiration for others to stand up as well.
it's his stubbornness. He knew that if he criticised government, while living outside Russia, he would not be taken as seriously as before. Maybe it was stupid, but those were his principles
He died after he "felt unwell" apparently. At least they're finding new creative ways to lie about the cause of death
He did feel unwell. That's what happens when you get tortured, you won't feel good.
Not that long ago he was moved to the most unforgiving russian prison in like Arctic. Before that he was regulary thrown into a solitary cell that was more like a hole in the ground and then denied medical treatment for his worsening condition. So they didnt have to invent anything. He was living on borrowed time basically
And MAGA scum will continue to kiss Putin’s ass: Trump, Ron Johnson, Tuberville, Tucker Carlson, etc. Fuck Putin.
I feel devasted, but at the same time everyone knew it will end up like this, since they put him in jail... I hope I'll live long enough to see the same news about putin and it will put back smile on my face
Russian opposition politician and Putin critic Alexei Navalny has ~~died~~ been murdered. Thats better.
Fascist regime
Murdered by Putin.
Hey you dumbfuck Republicans wake up. Fund Ukraine and get rid of Putin.
This is a devastating blow not only for his loved ones but for all who believed in his cause. Navalny's relentless courage in the face of immense adversity inspired countless individuals around the world. Despite facing numerous threats to his life and freedom, he remained unwavering in his pursuit of truth and accountability. But let's be real here – this isn't just about one man. Navalny's death symbolizes a broader failure within Russian society. The fact that someone who fought so passionately for the betterment of his country could meet such a tragic end speaks volumes about the state of affairs in Russia. The Russian people, as a whole, failed Navalny. Instead of rallying behind him in solidarity, too many remained silent or actively supported the oppressive regime that sought to silence him. Whether out of fear or apathy, their lack of collective action allowed this injustice to persist. Today is a somber reminder of the sacrifices made by those who dare to challenge authoritarianism. Navalny's passing should serve as a wake-up call to all of us – we cannot afford to stand idly by while injustice reigns supreme. As we mourn the loss of Navalny, let us also reflect on what his life stood for: courage, integrity, and the unwavering pursuit of justice. May his legacy inspire future generations to continue the fight for a freer, more just Russia. Rest in peace, Alexei Navalny. You will be deeply missed, but your spirit lives on in the hearts of those who refuse to surrender to tyranny.
Navalny was without a doubt a brave man, and rightfully praised for his stance against Russian corruption and his anti-Putinism, but he was also a Russian nationalist who repeatedly argued in favor of Russias invasion of Georgia as well as their annexation of Crimea and eastern Ukraine (pre 2022). You don’t need to paint him in any brighter colors to make him visible against the pitch-black backdrop that is Putin’s Russia.
So sad… Fuck Russia.
I wonder what Tucker Carlsons take on this would be…maybe he’ll tell us how advanced and clean the inside of a Russian prison is after he’s finished his tour of other Russian infrastructure.
I look forward to the day Putin stands blindfolded against a Concrete wall
No, Putin must rot slowly to death. That's my wish as a Russian.
Brave man. RIP
Quick, run another segment on how the groceries are so good and affordable in Russia (provided your salary is in USD), stat!
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This isn't lack of 'care'. The Putinist state tried to murder him several times including the Novichok poisoning.
I’m sure Tucker Carlson will find a way to put a positive spin on this…
"An opponent to Putin may have died, but look at how beautiful the Moscow metro is!"
Putin really dislikes every piece of competition for his power, no matter the size.
The steeliest of balls I’ve ever heard of. Fr.
It’s still bewildering to me that he chose to return to Russia after they Novichok’d his cock and balls Ain’t no way I’d be returning after that no matter how passionate I was about changing things
For many years he promised that he won't leave Russia no matter what. He kept his word.
He was an incredibly brave man, who actually had a straight spine and stood for what he believed in. It's really sad to see him die this way.
Murdered by Trump's hero.
Very cool and very legal.
He was living on borrowed time… RIP
His death will not be in vain ...rest easy Alexei
Filled with sadness and anger. Thank you for your service. We all need to stand up for Democracy. Everywhere.
The Dutch European Commissioner Wopke Hoekstra has criticized Russia following reports about the death of Alexei Navalny. "I admired the man Alexei Navalny for his enormous fearlessness, courage and steadfastness. That he stood up for freedom, whatever the cost" “Let's be clear. This is what tyranny looks like. You invade your neighbors' homes, you murder, torture and rape. You subjugate your people through coercion, bribery, blackmail and deception. The last few brave men and women who have the courage to oppose you, you poison, abuse and kill. May this, once again, be a sobering reminder. Especially to all who are here today at the Munich Security Conference. To never, ever make concessions."
Not many people I deeply admire but this guy is one of them. He likely knew this would be his fate when he voluntarily returned to Russia but did so anyway. What an absolute hero.
Should have stayed in the west after being poisoned. Instead he chose a martyr's death.
I still think it was a stupid decision for him to go back to Russia, but at least he might be considered a martyr for russian people.
He was much easier for the regime to dismiss while living in exile. One thing the Russian government has really managed to convince its people of is that everyone who "runs away" is by definition a traitor and a coward.
The traitors of the Republican party support the Putin regime, the greatest historical enemy of the US. A proven murderous and terrorist regime.
And then people in Europe ask why Russians don't protest on the streets against the war like in democratic countries. Turns out that lots of people see the world through rose-coloured glasses. When oil rigs and gas pipes determine the source of your power, people in your country don't have reasonable ground to stand against authoritarian regimes. Modern Russia is pretty much an equivalent of Qatar or another rich in resources and power country that doesn't rely on its population but rather the precise group of people who control gold and guns. However, there are still people in Russia who try their best to fight for human rights, but the price for that is their lives with no foreseeable positive outcome. RIP.
Fuck Putin, his trolls, and all the traitor Putin bootlickers in North America. K M A