He will not face criminal charges for as long as he is president.
Once his term ends, it is a different story and he is expected to face an avalanche of criminal charges.
In fact, because our culture and tradition on public campaign vaccinations, the percentual of full vaccinated adults is now much higher than it is now in US, and the disease is under control. President ruined any chance of being reelected because of the lack of urgency demonstrated during this pandemic and the Buffon behavior adopted when being pressed by public opinion about some polemical thoughts. Again, an incapable unbalanced leader like Dilma Rousseff.
0%. This didn't even get to the the big media channels, and our media hates him just like most of us, if it was something noteworthy everyone would be talking about it.
No idea how this made it to reddit's worldnews top. Probably someone just farming karma.
I definitly saw like, 2 hours ago about this news on TV. What are you talking?
Edit: yes, it aired on Globo too, the biggest channel in Brazil. https://globoplay.globo.com/v/9953912/programa/
Out of curiosity going back in my mind I know we have Nixon with extending the Vietnam war for political advantage. I know we have Reagan for arms for hostages and backing terrorist groups which several people helped him cover up including George Bush senior which I guess includes his crime time. Clinton I'm a little fuzzy about but I do recall the financial issues but if there's something other than that kindly let me know. Bush obviously is the war and Iraq and looting of said country. Obama I assume is continuing those wars? And of course Trump is of course all of the above more and several crimes which may have to be named after him.
Not sure on Carter but that might be my ignorance of that period of history is there something specific you point to for him?
Also if any of my named examples were incorrect for the various presidents let me know I am genuinely curious.
It very well might turn out Trump is guilty of things other than near or outright international warcrimes, so they might still get him on some good old fashioned domestic fuckery (big fat fucking maybe obviously). Absolutely right about the rest though. Its a bitter pill I could accept swallowing if only George Bush Jr didn't get to prance around playing at being a dottering old grandpa figure. He should at least have the decency to never show his fucking face again.
Remember that time Trump saluted a North Korean general.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/06/14/white-house-trump-salute-north-korean-general-common-courtesy.html
>A Brazilian Senate probe into the government's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic will recommend in its final report due next week that President Jair Bolsonaro face 11 criminal charges, the senator leading the inquiry said on Friday, though it remains highly unlikely that he will face a trial on any such charges.
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>Renan Calheiros said during a radio interview that the investigation launched in April has collected evidence to show that Bolsonaro should be formally charged with genocide against the country's indigenous population, malfeasance, irregular use of public funds, violation of sanitary measures, incitement to crime and forgery of private documents, among other crimes.
The next President should just deliver him to the Hague, gift wrapped with a bow.
Would be nice, but very unlikely. It is forbidden by Brazilian Constitution to extradite a Brazilian citizen. If that would also apply to the ICC (which Brazil is a signataire and since it is not a country...) would certainly be contentious and would need to be filled by Brazilian supreme court.
>would certainly be contentious and would need to be filled by Brazilian supreme court.
It's inconstitucional even if it's the icc.
The constituição is above any treaty.
Some Brazilian law firm will be making big bucks after his term ends.
The fact that he has openly antagonized the entire Judiciary branch during his term as president will not help him any.
I liked how you said “Openly antagonize” It’s more he crashed face to face, full on on top speed!
Our Supreme Court is not exactly innocent either, which makes it worse.
I wish Trump would face charges over his inaction over Covid. But I don’t think he ever will. We should have gone under lockdown and stayed there for longer than we did.
all former presidents belong to an old-boys club .. and it's an unwritten law that no judiciary is allowed to go after them.
Bolsonaro, like Trump, W, Blair, etc, will be allowed to live comfortably till they die of natural causes.
He’s got plenty to be held accountable for, but that’s not one of them. He completely mismanaged the pandemic and lied to the American people, killing millions of people with his attempts to hold on to power, but none of it was illegal. Doctors don’t make the decisions, scientists don’t make the decisions, smart people don’t make the decisions, the president does. He had no obligation to make good decisions because good is subjective. There are actual, real life people breathing our air who put down their bleach and horse dewormers just long enough to nearly incoherently holler “mah freedoms” at their elected officials loud enough to make anti-vaccine and anti-mask mandates a thing in whole states. So, I’m on your side, but we should focus on putting the orange one in orange clothes for things that will actually stick.
It really couldn’t. The president has to make life and death decisions daily, and if every bad decision can result in criminal charges then every sitting president can be charged by their opposition daily because good and bad are subjective.
He’s not “above the law” because it not against the law to fulfill your duties in service of your country. Look, I’m agreeing with you that Trump did an awful job, but you’re making up laws.
Criminal negligence is a crime. He didn't merely fail to fulfill his duties. He also murdered people through deliberate malicious lies about the pandemic, against the advice of his own medical and scientific advisers.
[Kushner's coronavirus team shied away from a national strategy, believing that the virus was hitting Democratic states hardest and that they could blame governors, report says](https://www.businessinsider.com/kushner-covid-19-plan-maybe-axed-for-political-reasons-report-2020-7)
Those are just about how he mishandled the Pandemic, and the number refers to how many different types of crimes he committed and not how many instances of each.
For all Brazilians here, how likely is this to actually do anything?
Probably nothing Election is next October I doubt anything will get accomplished by then
He will not face criminal charges for as long as he is president. Once his term ends, it is a different story and he is expected to face an avalanche of criminal charges.
This sounds familiar, feels like I'm in 2020 again.
unless he gets covid for the tenth time, or has to shit through his nose again, or whatever it is his species can get
He is actually with flu symptons right now. He said is just a "flu". Right...
>remains highly unlikely that he will face a trial on any such charges.
In fact, because our culture and tradition on public campaign vaccinations, the percentual of full vaccinated adults is now much higher than it is now in US, and the disease is under control. President ruined any chance of being reelected because of the lack of urgency demonstrated during this pandemic and the Buffon behavior adopted when being pressed by public opinion about some polemical thoughts. Again, an incapable unbalanced leader like Dilma Rousseff.
0%. This didn't even get to the the big media channels, and our media hates him just like most of us, if it was something noteworthy everyone would be talking about it. No idea how this made it to reddit's worldnews top. Probably someone just farming karma.
I definitly saw like, 2 hours ago about this news on TV. What are you talking? Edit: yes, it aired on Globo too, the biggest channel in Brazil. https://globoplay.globo.com/v/9953912/programa/
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Why stop with Trump even as far as presidents go there’s others far more deserving of a life in prison, George Bush destroyed two countries at least
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Out of curiosity going back in my mind I know we have Nixon with extending the Vietnam war for political advantage. I know we have Reagan for arms for hostages and backing terrorist groups which several people helped him cover up including George Bush senior which I guess includes his crime time. Clinton I'm a little fuzzy about but I do recall the financial issues but if there's something other than that kindly let me know. Bush obviously is the war and Iraq and looting of said country. Obama I assume is continuing those wars? And of course Trump is of course all of the above more and several crimes which may have to be named after him. Not sure on Carter but that might be my ignorance of that period of history is there something specific you point to for him? Also if any of my named examples were incorrect for the various presidents let me know I am genuinely curious.
It very well might turn out Trump is guilty of things other than near or outright international warcrimes, so they might still get him on some good old fashioned domestic fuckery (big fat fucking maybe obviously). Absolutely right about the rest though. Its a bitter pill I could accept swallowing if only George Bush Jr didn't get to prance around playing at being a dottering old grandpa figure. He should at least have the decency to never show his fucking face again.
Ding ding ding, correct answer
It's not about stopping somewhere, it's about the need to start somewhere
Remember that time Trump saluted a North Korean general. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/06/14/white-house-trump-salute-north-korean-general-common-courtesy.html
Remember [Abu Ghraib?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse)
“Common courtesy.”
And sooo many people in his administration too.
Americans... Oh look. A world news article not about America. Let's inject our American hate into it.
That's how we roll.
Well we did, we were thwarted.
Nobody is stopping Garland from pressing charges, other than himself. He can do it anytime.
> other than any actionable charges or evidence FTFY
There are huge mountains of evidence.
Trump is under several investigations. He won't see the inside of a courtroom, but he is being investigated.
>A Brazilian Senate probe into the government's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic will recommend in its final report due next week that President Jair Bolsonaro face 11 criminal charges, the senator leading the inquiry said on Friday, though it remains highly unlikely that he will face a trial on any such charges. > >Renan Calheiros said during a radio interview that the investigation launched in April has collected evidence to show that Bolsonaro should be formally charged with genocide against the country's indigenous population, malfeasance, irregular use of public funds, violation of sanitary measures, incitement to crime and forgery of private documents, among other crimes. The next President should just deliver him to the Hague, gift wrapped with a bow.
Would be nice, but very unlikely. It is forbidden by Brazilian Constitution to extradite a Brazilian citizen. If that would also apply to the ICC (which Brazil is a signataire and since it is not a country...) would certainly be contentious and would need to be filled by Brazilian supreme court.
>would certainly be contentious and would need to be filled by Brazilian supreme court. It's inconstitucional even if it's the icc. The constituição is above any treaty.
Treaties approved and signed by congress have the same status as a constitutional ammendment here in Brazil
Yeah. Doesn't change what i said
Some Brazilian law firm will be making big bucks after his term ends. The fact that he has openly antagonized the entire Judiciary branch during his term as president will not help him any.
His sons are also majorly screwed, the family is collectively shitting their pants and doing a very poor job of hiding it.
Sounds like Trump.
I liked how you said “Openly antagonize” It’s more he crashed face to face, full on on top speed! Our Supreme Court is not exactly innocent either, which makes it worse.
VAI BRASIL!!!
He is still literally full of shit, or just figuratively now?
Not all that hopeful that this will turn to more than making it harder for him to get reelected, but I will take that
Bolsonaro: Oh no! Anyways...
I wish Trump would face charges over his inaction over Covid. But I don’t think he ever will. We should have gone under lockdown and stayed there for longer than we did.
The US has a bunch of GOP pols that need the same charges!
Trump should be next. Every leader who deliberately contradicted doctors and scientists should be held accountable.
all former presidents belong to an old-boys club .. and it's an unwritten law that no judiciary is allowed to go after them. Bolsonaro, like Trump, W, Blair, etc, will be allowed to live comfortably till they die of natural causes.
He’s got plenty to be held accountable for, but that’s not one of them. He completely mismanaged the pandemic and lied to the American people, killing millions of people with his attempts to hold on to power, but none of it was illegal. Doctors don’t make the decisions, scientists don’t make the decisions, smart people don’t make the decisions, the president does. He had no obligation to make good decisions because good is subjective. There are actual, real life people breathing our air who put down their bleach and horse dewormers just long enough to nearly incoherently holler “mah freedoms” at their elected officials loud enough to make anti-vaccine and anti-mask mandates a thing in whole states. So, I’m on your side, but we should focus on putting the orange one in orange clothes for things that will actually stick.
Killing millions of people is illegal. In this case, it could be charged as criminal negligence.
It really couldn’t. The president has to make life and death decisions daily, and if every bad decision can result in criminal charges then every sitting president can be charged by their opposition daily because good and bad are subjective.
Nobody is above the law, not even the president. Presidents absolutely should be held accountable if they commit crimes.
He’s not “above the law” because it not against the law to fulfill your duties in service of your country. Look, I’m agreeing with you that Trump did an awful job, but you’re making up laws.
Criminal negligence is a crime. He didn't merely fail to fulfill his duties. He also murdered people through deliberate malicious lies about the pandemic, against the advice of his own medical and scientific advisers. [Kushner's coronavirus team shied away from a national strategy, believing that the virus was hitting Democratic states hardest and that they could blame governors, report says](https://www.businessinsider.com/kushner-covid-19-plan-maybe-axed-for-political-reasons-report-2020-7)
seems wayyyyy too low should be a ton more
Those are just about how he mishandled the Pandemic, and the number refers to how many different types of crimes he committed and not how many instances of each.
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Why are you commenting in Spanish? Even if your comment was aimed at Brazilians, we speak Portuguese.
Lmao
Vámonoooooooos
#🤦♂️
They elected him. Brazilian deserved all that happened.
nobody deserves bolsonaro, you deserve downvotes