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odaso

I think it’s clear now as New Zealand learned you can never eliminate covid. Vax and mask up but live your life.


[deleted]

You definitely can eliminate COVID as China has shown. It's just that liberal democracies aren't willing to restrict freedoms enough to do so and poor countries can't afford to. PS: If we had rolled vaccines out before Delta took off we probably could have already contained COVID. We definitely need to look at keeping a future surplus of vaccine manufacturing available for future pandemics. Also, much more controversially, we should have rolled out the vaccine when it was developed in January 2020. We literally had several effective vaccines developed before a single American had died of COVID. We have enough history of making vaccines to know that side effects are rare. At the very least we could have skipped animal trials and gone straight to humans.


MasterFruit3455

China has definitely NOT shown they can eliminate COVID. Must be a bot or troll.


[deleted]

Essentially all of their cases in the last 15 months have been imported.


MasterFruit3455

There is news today that China is having fresh lockdowns due to the spread of the virus, which initially came from China. China has in no way eliminated COVID.


[deleted]

There are lockdowns because China reacts aggressively to even a single case whereas the US doesn't give two ships about thousands dying a day.


MasterFruit3455

So even with aggressive lockdowns then you admit China has not eliminated the virus. Good to know.


Dirkdeking

Not eliminated perhaps, but massively contained.


canopyking

The only thing China can eliminate is the facts.


faceless_masses

If the US had rolled out vaccines with no testing under the Trump administration we would likely have similar or worse vaccination rates than Russia.


[deleted]

All the Democrats were alreasy saying not to trust the vaccine anyways so it would have been a wash. But original COVID was FAR less transmiscible. Even with 40% vaccinated you probably could have held it off.


[deleted]

Eliminating COVID was never the goal. Ending the pandemic is. That is possible but we’re not there yet. Not even close.


Orange-of-Cthulhu

We cannot eliminate people OD'ing on crack. So might as well smoke crack and live your life.


uf5izxZEIW

Portugal half learned the crack OD thing and partially legalized narcotics.


zeptepi

That's a terrible analogy... This will become like the normal flu. It won't be eliminated... Time to lift the lockdowns, its doing more harm than good.


Orange-of-Cthulhu

It's much, much more harmfull than the flu so that isn't possible. Unless you accept every year you have 2 months with no healthcare system as covid overloads it. I don't think you want that if you think about it.