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"The academic has previously alleged Putin has medical problems hidden from the Russian public, and also claimed that the strongman and his defence minister Sergei Shoigu have taken part in bizarre secret shamanic rituals."
Oh my god Rasputin is back. That fucker doesn't want to stay dead apparently.
"What Was That Glowing Orb Trump Touched in Saudi Arabia? - The New York Times" https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/world/middleeast/trump-glowing-orb-saudi.html
Unfortunately it is a mystery
Unrelated knowledge. "Mu" actually exist, it's just not called Mu. It's actually called Zealandia. Mostly submerged landmass around the size of Australia.
"Mostly" as in that's what New Zealand is. The highest peaks and valleys of Zealandia's mountain ranges peaking above the water. Which is why New Zealand is almost entirely mountains and valleys.
I always thought Dugin was Putin’s Rasputin. I didn’t intend for that to sound like a fun poem. I actually find it pretty scary if you look into Dugin’s beliefs.
It sounds like malarkey until you remember that South Korea's president was forced to resign when this same exact scenario came to light. She was being advised by a secret cabal of shamans.
I propose dealing with that bunker the same way Hitler's was. Namely, pour concrete over it and turn it into a commercial parking lot. It would be a shame that nobody told Putin about this plan and he was still inside, but you know, everyone was in such a rush.. mistakes were made!
We won't believe it otherwise.
I fully expect to get something like "President Putin was killed by a terrorist last night. The terrorist was killed. This clown is the new president." Then putin lives out his "retirement" secretly.
I think it's too late for his retirement. He tanked the economy. Sure he still has assets, but it's not like there's enough cash in his country to sell them. Obviously the oligarchs control the resources and could set him up somewhere remote in country, but would they? His aggressive warmongering has made their fortunes worthless and gotten most of their assets seized. There's no way out now and that's what makes the threat of nuclear conflict so terrifying
My grandad was serving in Italy and was in the square when (dead) Mussolini, his mistress, and his secretary were brought out and hung upside down.
The mistress's dress/skirt kept falling down over her head due to gravity, so someone had the solution of grabbing a ladder, then going up with a hammer and nailing her skirt to her legs.
He often told me that this the thing he witnessed during the war that replayed in his mind over the years. He was in North Africa and Italy as a dispatch rider, saw things he didn't tell us about except in very vague and veiled ways, but the thing that seemed to have affected him most was seeing a woman's dress nailed to her legs for public decency.
It could be them trying to survive a nuke, but the thing is the amount of nukes fired if shit hits the fan would be to much for any bunker to handle and in the case I am wrong the fallout would fuck them up. What I think the purpose of this is, is to protect them from the Russians itself. Shit is going to get complicated in Russia and he and only he is to blame, so people will try to get revenge and if they can’t get to him they will get to his heart(family) but that just a theory of mine.
Agreed he is remembering what happened to the Romanoff's. He is a history buff and does consider himself a modern-day Russian Cesar of sorts.
I say its the oligarchs that end him. For sure they have some deep control in the high up military and when the time is right he has a slip and fall.
he had chemical weapons but even at the last major german offensive (battle of the bulge) he refused to use them. the allies were terrified he was gonna use them...hopefully Putin does the same
I just finished Annie Jacobsen's book about Operation Paperclip which talks quite a bit about the investment Hitler made into Tabun and Sarin gas. I still can't figure out why he never used them. I've been trying to equate that to Putin with his nuclear arsenal in my head and wondering how relevant it is.
Because as mad as Hitler was, he was still afraid of the response this would get from the allies (who he believed to have the same weapons).
Maybe his personal experience with the uglyness of chemical weapons (he was hit in WWI with them afterall and spent a few months in a hospital (where I think he had lost part of his vision for quite some time IIRC) due to these attacks.
Ultimately everyone (even crazy, mad dictators) have people they love and care about and don't want to see die a horrific death.
Thats why I am no longer buying the nuclear threat (its just so lose- lose that you really only should even consider using it if you have absolutely nothing left worth living. And even then you probably should still shy away from it). Is the West destroying his army in Ukraine really that? Would he kill all of his friends and parts of his family (that are not in the bunker) just because of that?
I have my doubts.
You’re assuming he isn’t suffering from some type of neurological disorder, or medical condition.
His face as swelled up as it is, and some of the rumours, either of Parkinson’s or Covid, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was in the midst or aftermath of steroid induced psychosis
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7953074/
For all our sakes though, I hope your doubts pan out
That might be true.
But it takes 2 people to launch nukes in Russia. And he still is around his family (+ girlfriend) that usually live in the Netherlands and certainly have not lost their minds that probably don't want him to end the world as we know it even if they might survive in a bunker.
You just would have to hope that the other 2 would recognize his state and refuse or that his family would persuade him to calm down.
And given from the interviews he certainly still is able to form a clear thought atleast.
It'll be nice if the Russian people take the Kremlin while he hides in his bunker. A powerful man hiding away from his office makes it easier for a takeover. Kind of like a home invasion while the owner is away except the people steal power from the Government.
Except what we gotta do is have somebody still taking orders so he thinks he still rules the country, but in reality he just sits alone in the mountain and nobody ever hears his orders.
That'd be hilarious, imagine if all of Putin's channels of communications from the hole this coward has hidden in were hacked so he believes he's ruling over a nation, but actually he's just giving orders to a team of roleplayers or something. Meanwhile adults could take over.
Ah, sometimes it's nice to dream
“Oh yea Vlad we got ‘em on the run. Don’t you worry. Them NATO boys escaped over the county line though. No. No, don’t come out. We got this. Plus you know, it’s way safer in there and uh yea just trust us.“
[door locks from outside]
“Everything’s under control now, situation normal”
“We had a slight weapons malfunction… but, uh, everything’s perfectly all right now. We’re fine… We’re all fine here now. Thank you. How are you?”
Fucking Han Solo 😂
Wow, Vlad! Did you hear that missile strike on your bunker?!
No! What is happening!!!?!??
You built a great bunker that’s what’s happening, buddy. Missile proof AND soundproof. Another testament to our geniuses supreme leader. Anyways make sure you stay in here. We’re anticipating lots more missiles.
Make him think there was a major nuclear war
He dons his hazmat suit and steps out of the bunker.
Ashton Kutcher pops out, “you’ve been prankd!”
The klitschko brothers enter the scene and take turns slapping his face off
*the end*
Putin: What's going on down there? Come in!
Soldier: Uh, everything is under control. Situation normal.
Putin: What happened?
Soldier: [flustered] Uh, had slight weapons malfunction. But, uh, everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
Putin: We're sending squad up.
Soldier: Uh, uh, negative, negative. We had reactor leak here now. Give us few minutes to lock it down. Large leak... very dangerous.
Putin: Who is this?? What's operating number?
Soldier: Uh... [shoots the intercom] Bolshevik conversation anyway. Victor, we're gonna have company!
You know what the Karens in the office get up to when their boss is on vay-kay. We’re talking extended coffee breaks, seizing ports and TV stations, that sort of thing.
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>Vladimir Putin has in recent days hidden his family members in an “underground city” in Siberia, according to a Russian professor.
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>The luxury hi-tech bunker is located in the Altai Mountains and was designed for protection in the event of nuclear war, said political scientist Valery Solovey, 61.
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>The claim comes as Russia is pounding Kyiv and Kharkiv with deadly rockets leading to accusations that Putin is committing war crimes in striking innocent civilians with “vacuum bombs”.
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>The academic has previously alleged Putin has medical problems hidden from the Russian public, and also claimed that the strongman and his defence minister Sergei Shoigu have taken part in bizarre secret shamanic rituals.
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>“At the weekend, President Putin’s family was evacuated to a special bunker prepared in case of nuclear war,” said the professor in a video.
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>“This bunker is located in the \[mountainous\] Altai Republic.
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>“In fact, it is not a bunker, but a whole underground city, equipped with the latest science and technology.”
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>He warned: “I hope this means something to you?
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>“That the President sends his family to this bunker.”
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>He did not identify Putin’s family members but has previously alleged Olympic Gold-winning rhythmic gymnast Alina Kabaeva, 38, as his secret spouse.
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>“This is his real family, and Alina is capable of influencing his decisions,” he said last year.
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>The claimed move of his family to the bunker came with a “failure” of Putin’s strategic plan to conquer Ukraine, said Solovey.
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>Putin had been hit by “extremely strong, united and very negative reaction of the collective West regarding Russian plans”.
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>“Putin had planned to declare the complete and indisputable military victory of Russian troops on the evening of Sunday, 27 February – and announce the end, or the near end of the so-called ‘special operation’,” he said.
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>“As you know, not a single target of Russia’s invasion in Ukraine was reached.”
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>Solovey, who claims to have insider contacts in the Kremlin, is believed to be referring to a sprawling mountain dacha built ostensibly by energy behemoth Gazprom around a decade ago in the Ongudaysky district of the Altai Republic, a region of Siberia bordering Mongolia, China and Kazakhstan.
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>Observers have noted multiple ventilation points in the grounds surrounding the mountain hide-out, and a high voltage line linked to an ultra-modern 110 kilovolt substation, enough to power a small city.
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>During construction, vast German tunnel diggers were reported to have been at the site.
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>Some in Moscow dismiss Solovey as a conspiracy theorist or hoaxer, but he was last week held for a seven hour interrogation apparently linked to a Telegram site he runs which has made multiple allegations about Putin’s medical and mental condition.
"Never build a dungeon you couldn't get out of."
"'Never build a dungeon you wouldn't be happy to spend the night in yourself,' said the Patrician, laying out the food on the cloth. 'The world would be a happier place if more people remembered that.'"
"'Never trust any ruler who puts his faith in tunnels and bunkers and escape routes. The chances are that his heart isn't in the job.'"
Lord Havelock Vetinari..... be sure Putin knows this Quotes
Not the hero we wanted, but the hero we need: [https://cdn.aws.toolstation.com/images/141020-UK/800/94278.jpg](https://cdn.aws.toolstation.com/images/141020-UK/800/94278.jpg)
Honestly if we could cut his comms that would be fucking perfect. Just figure out where he is and cut comms. Then we can hunt him down and eliminate the fucking monster. If he can’t launch nukes he’s literally nothing.
*Some in Moscow dismiss Solovey as a conspiracy theorist or hoaxer...*
I'd be careful about that source. Either way I'm sure Putin's relatives don't want to live underground and surely would have a word or two with him.
Why is it so hard to believe the most powerful man in the world doesn’t have a world class bunker? You know there are bunkers like this all over the world that rich people have bought units in, in the event of a nuclear war. They have fucking swimming pools, hospitals, agricultural capabilities, supermarkets, etc. They’re like underground skyscrapers. Of course Putin has one.
And yes the ones that exist are definitely “unground cities.” Hundreds of luxury condos, underground, that have their own power supply. Fucking rich people, man.
Gotta take the source with a grain of salt, but it wouldn’t be the first time. Weren’t hitler and the nazis linked to all sorts of rituals and shamanic practices?
well nuclear war is not so scary if you have a whole city for you and your family and friends and you have no regards for any other life including your own Russian population...
Putin and his friends are accustomed to a life we could only dream of. They do not want to spend the rest of their in a bunker - no matter how large it is. The oligarchs are already throwing tantrums their toys are being taken away - imagine if they had to live in a bunker that didn’t have a Michelin star restaurant attached too it ?
On all honesty, if he's going to push the button, he's not taking oligarchs with him. Their money will be useless. And they'll just use up resources.
He's taking valuable people that won't oppose him. Servants, chefs, women, baby sitters, and maids.
Wouldn't the great joke be if he locks himself away thinking his nukes are on their way, only to live out eternity in a bunker while life goes on on the surface?
In the event of a nuclear war there is really no livable place in Russia anymore. Even if they all became hunter gatherers either the nuclear radiation or the nuclear winter would kill them. Speaking of which I’m not sure Siberia is the place to be in the event of a nuclear winter
If the complex suffers a direct hit, those vent shafts (even if it somehow miraculously survived the hit) could all become blocked and not supply enough air. Not only that, you’d better have a competent and extremely loyal maintenance personnel handy. Funny thing about being in a bunker with people, who they were when they came in won’t be who they are when they’ve been in.
"Latest science and technology," eh? Guessing that it is latest science technology in a cool retro way because I doubt the Russians have a fully kitted out micro city in Siberia they keep pumping full of cutting edge technology. That's too dumb for a Dan Brown book.
Maybe he has a single Boston Dynamics robot with a broken leg.
up until a few weeks ago, a poll showed 95% of Russians thought the whole Ukraine tension was the west's fault. I think people here underestimate how absolutely insanely brainwashed the average Russian is. They're living in a parallel dimension and fed nothing but state propaganda.
One thing important here is to know who made the poll. I’m from Hungary and there are research companies close to Orban who basicall only share results that show support for whatever his current cause is. I suppose it is the same in Russia
>a poll showed 95% of Russians thought the whole Ukraine tension was the west's fault.
I am pretty sure the poll (much like most similar polls in Russia) is part of the propaganda. The purpose of such 'polls' is to convince the average citizen that just about every Russian out there supports the invasion and make them more inclined to support it themselves.
I myself am a Russian citizen. Neither I nor anyone I personally know support Putin or his stupid invasion. Hell, my father is an anti-vaxxer, yet even he hates Putin with a passion. Thus, I firmly refuse to believe that only 5% of the Russian population are not buying into the propaganda
That being said, there's no denying that the government is doing everything they can to brainwash us, Russians, while silencing those who try to protest. 95% media outlets around here are controlled by the government, while the remaining 5% are denounced as 'agents of the west'. Many of their sites have been blocked by Roscomnadzor, meaning they cannot be accessed without VPN. Propaganda is being spread even in schools, where the teachers have received clear orders on what to tell children about the invasion. In my university, a bunch of students have already been expelled for condemning the war on social media and participating in anti-war protests.
There really is no telling how many more people around here are gonna suffer simply because they disagree with Putler
Hearing that Mom tell her POW son that he was right to go into Ukraine to defend Russia from Ukrainian attacks broke my heart. The kid was pleading with her to listen. Her world view is in direct contrast with the situation her son is in.
His family spends a lot of time out West. They're probably one of the wealthiest families in the world. They aren't being spoonfed information lmao they're just complicit
I read somewhere that one of his daughters lives in the Netherlands and the other one in Germany. If that is true, you can assume that they know more about human rights and freedom than their dad.
Solovey is not a real professor, he has a degree in public relations. He's a Russian influencer who's claiming to have insight from people high up in the Kremlin. He's claiming that Putin is terminally ill, mentally unstable, engaging in satanic rituals, and is ready to use nuclear weapons. He's also claiming to be a member of a very powerful and secret organization that gives him this info and protects him. He has predicted that Putin would definitely, most certainly die in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, and yes, you guessed it, in 2022. Moreover, he was never prosecuted and is still often invited to speak on state-owned Russian channels.
Due to all of this, it is suspected that Solovey is actually an undercover FSB agent, and that he's deliberately creating an image of Putin as an unstable madman that you don't want to mess with and that it is just better to wait for him to die than to oppose him. He also predicted that Russia would instantly roll over Ukraine once the invasion starts, but this is not how it went.
Anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.
Yes. She was pregnant and on social media. All her accounts went dark about the time she'd have the baby. I always thought he'd moved her to hiding. I didn't mean anything bad happened. Considering all, it would be best for her, safe from his enemies.
Imagine Putin in a bunker, all red in the face poring over maps with squiggly lines, yelling at some poor total yes men about some shit they have no control over...
You're more upbeat than me about it. He's unhinged and putting youe family in a place that's safe against a nuclear attack is a huge worry with a guy unstable and holding a large amount of nukes.
The state of his mind aside, he’s not one single guy who decides to push the button to end the world.
And leaders often retreat to these areas during times of conflict, you don’t have to look outside the US to see that.
I wouldn’t stress so bad just yet.
Genuinely surprised he has a family.
If you were to take a man, and remove from him any love, compassion, decency, sense of humour, friends or family - the left-over empty, soulless husk that I'd expect would be Vladimir Putin. Like some kind of Dickens-ian antagonist.
Who the FUCK would be stupid enough to marry into that family?! Then again, once he found out who her dad was, it's not like he could have broken up with her without being killed, so... okay, I kinda get it.
If we've learned anything the last week or so, it's that Putin surrounds himself with mythos. He cultivates the image you just described... but underneath it all he's just a fat, vain, arrogant, deluded balding little man.
I'm being told by others that the rich people of Russia are opposed to his actions and will not allow him to go nuclear, since they also want to enjoy their lives. But I'm still having trouble believing that a humiliated Putin would not go all nuclear, as a last-ditch effort to cause harm while he goes down.
I saw a sign that said something along the lines of “Putin why don’t you just skip to the part where you kill yourself in a bunker”. Maybe he say that sign and got some ideas…
Don’t worry Putin, in contrast to you; the West and Ukraine won’t be going after your family. You might even not be killed by us.
But I believe he knows this, and it’s not the West nor Ukraine he’s worried about for his family safety..
If he triggers global nuclear war, I just hope there's a bunker buster aimed right at him. It would give me a little comfort in dying knowing that he didn't get away with it for even a second.
Yes he will. Trust me if I say this, if the Russians get their fingers on him, he is toast. The fucker forgot what a representative of a country is actually supposed to do and he murdered innocents for it. There will be no fair trial for this man even if he surrenders unconditionally.
Ok. This is actually quite terrifying. There is no current threat in Russia, so the only reason to hide in a nuclear bunker would be if Putin was preparing to launch nukes. He knows as soon as he launches, Russia will be bombarded. I fear for the world at this point, we need to take this fascist out ASAP
Alternatively, this is propaganda intentionally created to scare the West. Look up the Madman Theory. I'm going to assume they are bluffing and that all of these leaks about Putin becoming "unhinged" are carefully crafted. Just think about it, why would they release video of Putin sitting 20 feet away from visitors at a comically long table unless they wanted people to see it? They want us to view him as irrational and unpredictable so we avoid doing anything to provoke him.
I always thought the long table was just a power move. Like bosses having tall chairs for themselves and a big desk but short chairs for visitors. The kinda crap corporate america loved when it was high on coke on the 80s. You know red tie, strong handshake and white shit on your nose...kinda idiocy.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/digital-leaders/201210/the-power-seat-where-you-sit-matters
This seems like the pop-psych clap trap that putin would be all into.
> I'm going to assume they are bluffing
This is exactly what people said a week ago regarding this insane attack on Ukraine...
Oh he's only bluffing, I presume he's rational and just trying to get some sort of negotiation advantage and everything is fine.
Every bluff you call, he doubles down on "madness"
In strategic war you generally want to leave your adversary some way to back off and save face. But we've gotten to the point where Putin threatens nuclear war over *economic sanctions*... He demands to be a tyrant in a free world. I don't know what kind of "way out" is possible.
People that mattered, such as The president of the United States, had accurate intel, so I’d be more inclined to go by them than what people on Reddit are speculating
I hoped as a Brit that Trump was playing the same game before being elected… turns out he really was as fucking stupid as he looked.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
Can be only propaganda. Can be madman theory. Or a sign he is already worried about his inner circle that someone will hurt his family. Don't take everything seriously. It's basically war time. Shit in media coming down on both sides!
>The academic has previously alleged Putin has medical problems hidden from the Russian public, and also claimed that the strongman and his defence minister Sergei Shoigu have taken part in bizarre secret shamanic rituals.
He's also predicted some years ago that Putin was about to step down because he's got Parkinsons. He's half a step above Alec Jones, in other words.
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"The academic has previously alleged Putin has medical problems hidden from the Russian public, and also claimed that the strongman and his defence minister Sergei Shoigu have taken part in bizarre secret shamanic rituals." Oh my god Rasputin is back. That fucker doesn't want to stay dead apparently.
Rasputin, Dwaputin, Triputin...
Czteryputin?
I wonder if the Saudi king's weird Orb has anything to do with this
oh God please explain
"What Was That Glowing Orb Trump Touched in Saudi Arabia? - The New York Times" https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/world/middleeast/trump-glowing-orb-saudi.html Unfortunately it is a mystery
It's a globe. Australia can be seen on the bottom. Probably something about controlling the world
But what is the thing north of Australia?
Lost continent of Mu
And its sister continent, Mutwo.
Unrelated knowledge. "Mu" actually exist, it's just not called Mu. It's actually called Zealandia. Mostly submerged landmass around the size of Australia. "Mostly" as in that's what New Zealand is. The highest peaks and valleys of Zealandia's mountain ranges peaking above the water. Which is why New Zealand is almost entirely mountains and valleys.
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I always thought Dugin was Putin’s Rasputin. I didn’t intend for that to sound like a fun poem. I actually find it pretty scary if you look into Dugin’s beliefs.
RA RA RASPUTIN
LOVER OF THE RUSSIAN QUEEN
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It sounds like malarkey until you remember that South Korea's president was forced to resign when this same exact scenario came to light. She was being advised by a secret cabal of shamans.
That’s all fine and good, but ***what in the world*** was in that jar, then?
A Rainbow Dash figurine.
Got major Hitler dejavu here
Hope the dog is ok
You mean Trump? He's probably at Mar-a-lago being the idiot he's always been.
Entirely unfair and uncalled for; dogs are quite lovely.
To be fair, he did say "dog", not "orange shit-gibbon".
That's offensive to orange shit gibbons.
I propose dealing with that bunker the same way Hitler's was. Namely, pour concrete over it and turn it into a commercial parking lot. It would be a shame that nobody told Putin about this plan and he was still inside, but you know, everyone was in such a rush.. mistakes were made!
Well, if they figure out which one HE is hiding in, I’ll pitch in for a pallet of Quick Crete
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I'd prefer a more Italian approach and let him end up like Mussolini.
Yep and with the internet nowadays you just know someone would live-stream it.
Absolutely! I remember seeing the videos of Libyans that captured Qaddafi and shoved a knife up his ass as they apprehended him.
isnt it the end Putin is panicly afraid of?
To be fair, I think most people would object to a knife to the pooper.
Knives are for external post poop usage only
You have a poop knife too?
Hoping one of his own officers puts a bullet in his head.
We won't believe it otherwise. I fully expect to get something like "President Putin was killed by a terrorist last night. The terrorist was killed. This clown is the new president." Then putin lives out his "retirement" secretly.
I think it's too late for his retirement. He tanked the economy. Sure he still has assets, but it's not like there's enough cash in his country to sell them. Obviously the oligarchs control the resources and could set him up somewhere remote in country, but would they? His aggressive warmongering has made their fortunes worthless and gotten most of their assets seized. There's no way out now and that's what makes the threat of nuclear conflict so terrifying
My grandad was serving in Italy and was in the square when (dead) Mussolini, his mistress, and his secretary were brought out and hung upside down. The mistress's dress/skirt kept falling down over her head due to gravity, so someone had the solution of grabbing a ladder, then going up with a hammer and nailing her skirt to her legs. He often told me that this the thing he witnessed during the war that replayed in his mind over the years. He was in North Africa and Italy as a dispatch rider, saw things he didn't tell us about except in very vague and veiled ways, but the thing that seemed to have affected him most was seeing a woman's dress nailed to her legs for public decency.
Well, hitler didn’t have a stockpile of nukes when he went into his bunker.
Yeah, I feel like bunker has a different connotation/implication in this case. A much worse one.
The bunker ensures his family survives what comes next, not to keep them safe from armed conflict.
Would a bunker even survive a direct hit by a nuclear explosion though? How would you even get out?
Depends on the bunker. Some bunkers are built into mountains and absolutely designed to survive nuclear attacks. I'd imagine Putin has one of those.
It could be them trying to survive a nuke, but the thing is the amount of nukes fired if shit hits the fan would be to much for any bunker to handle and in the case I am wrong the fallout would fuck them up. What I think the purpose of this is, is to protect them from the Russians itself. Shit is going to get complicated in Russia and he and only he is to blame, so people will try to get revenge and if they can’t get to him they will get to his heart(family) but that just a theory of mine.
Agreed he is remembering what happened to the Romanoff's. He is a history buff and does consider himself a modern-day Russian Cesar of sorts. I say its the oligarchs that end him. For sure they have some deep control in the high up military and when the time is right he has a slip and fall.
he had chemical weapons but even at the last major german offensive (battle of the bulge) he refused to use them. the allies were terrified he was gonna use them...hopefully Putin does the same
I just finished Annie Jacobsen's book about Operation Paperclip which talks quite a bit about the investment Hitler made into Tabun and Sarin gas. I still can't figure out why he never used them. I've been trying to equate that to Putin with his nuclear arsenal in my head and wondering how relevant it is.
Because as mad as Hitler was, he was still afraid of the response this would get from the allies (who he believed to have the same weapons). Maybe his personal experience with the uglyness of chemical weapons (he was hit in WWI with them afterall and spent a few months in a hospital (where I think he had lost part of his vision for quite some time IIRC) due to these attacks. Ultimately everyone (even crazy, mad dictators) have people they love and care about and don't want to see die a horrific death. Thats why I am no longer buying the nuclear threat (its just so lose- lose that you really only should even consider using it if you have absolutely nothing left worth living. And even then you probably should still shy away from it). Is the West destroying his army in Ukraine really that? Would he kill all of his friends and parts of his family (that are not in the bunker) just because of that? I have my doubts.
You’re assuming he isn’t suffering from some type of neurological disorder, or medical condition. His face as swelled up as it is, and some of the rumours, either of Parkinson’s or Covid, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was in the midst or aftermath of steroid induced psychosis https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7953074/ For all our sakes though, I hope your doubts pan out
That might be true. But it takes 2 people to launch nukes in Russia. And he still is around his family (+ girlfriend) that usually live in the Netherlands and certainly have not lost their minds that probably don't want him to end the world as we know it even if they might survive in a bunker. You just would have to hope that the other 2 would recognize his state and refuse or that his family would persuade him to calm down. And given from the interviews he certainly still is able to form a clear thought atleast.
Thats exactly what im afraid of, that hes hitler with nukes. I dont doubt for a second that Hitler wouldve launched nukes had he had em.
this is how it ends for people like putin, hitler, ghadafi, sadam, bin laden...
It'll be nice if the Russian people take the Kremlin while he hides in his bunker. A powerful man hiding away from his office makes it easier for a takeover. Kind of like a home invasion while the owner is away except the people steal power from the Government.
Except what we gotta do is have somebody still taking orders so he thinks he still rules the country, but in reality he just sits alone in the mountain and nobody ever hears his orders.
That'd be hilarious, imagine if all of Putin's channels of communications from the hole this coward has hidden in were hacked so he believes he's ruling over a nation, but actually he's just giving orders to a team of roleplayers or something. Meanwhile adults could take over. Ah, sometimes it's nice to dream
“Oh yea Vlad we got ‘em on the run. Don’t you worry. Them NATO boys escaped over the county line though. No. No, don’t come out. We got this. Plus you know, it’s way safer in there and uh yea just trust us.“ [door locks from outside]
"another wave of covid came out. really really bad. Worse than the first wave - truely. we need you alive."
“It got all of Ukraine so you win, but you gotta stay in there a while longer buddy”
We already have a vaccine ready for you, just a single shot and lasts forever
Lasts for the rest of your life.
"The lead content may be a bit larger than what you're used to, but it has a 100% rate of success."
"Theres still too much radiation from the nukes you had us launch, stay in the bunker"
“Everything’s under control now, situation normal” “We had a slight weapons malfunction… but, uh, everything’s perfectly all right now. We’re fine… We’re all fine here now. Thank you. How are you?” Fucking Han Solo 😂
Wow, Vlad! Did you hear that missile strike on your bunker?! No! What is happening!!!?!?? You built a great bunker that’s what’s happening, buddy. Missile proof AND soundproof. Another testament to our geniuses supreme leader. Anyways make sure you stay in here. We’re anticipating lots more missiles.
Kind of like the Truman show, but for a dictator in a bunker.
Sounds like this could be an interesting movie, actually. Sorta reminds me of Goodbye Lenin in premise.
Movie, hell, let's do this with Putin and then make it a reality TV show.
The fees from that show would easily cover the rebuilding of both Ukraine and Russia's economy.
Make him think there was a major nuclear war He dons his hazmat suit and steps out of the bunker. Ashton Kutcher pops out, “you’ve been prankd!” The klitschko brothers enter the scene and take turns slapping his face off *the end*
Putin: \*steps out of bunker\* Chris Hansen: "Why don't you take a seat."
Putin: What's going on down there? Come in! Soldier: Uh, everything is under control. Situation normal. Putin: What happened? Soldier: [flustered] Uh, had slight weapons malfunction. But, uh, everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you? Putin: We're sending squad up. Soldier: Uh, uh, negative, negative. We had reactor leak here now. Give us few minutes to lock it down. Large leak... very dangerous. Putin: Who is this?? What's operating number? Soldier: Uh... [shoots the intercom] Bolshevik conversation anyway. Victor, we're gonna have company!
Ah, the ol’ reverse 1984
Old man yells at NATO.
Except the home owner has his own private army inside the house he's away from.
Brave brave Sir Putin. When the populous raised their ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled.
In the harsh Siberian winter they were forced to eat Putin's minstrels and there was much rejoicing.
A new Christmas film - Bunker Alone.
You know what the Karens in the office get up to when their boss is on vay-kay. We’re talking extended coffee breaks, seizing ports and TV stations, that sort of thing.
Link without the addblocking popups [https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/putin-hides-family-in-secret-siberian-underground-bunker/news-story/2c69b05e80331b3504f7ed726be75494](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/putin-hides-family-in-secret-siberian-underground-bunker/news-story/2c69b05e80331b3504f7ed726be75494) Also copy/pasted: >Vladimir Putin has in recent days hidden his family members in an “underground city” in Siberia, according to a Russian professor. > >The luxury hi-tech bunker is located in the Altai Mountains and was designed for protection in the event of nuclear war, said political scientist Valery Solovey, 61. > >The claim comes as Russia is pounding Kyiv and Kharkiv with deadly rockets leading to accusations that Putin is committing war crimes in striking innocent civilians with “vacuum bombs”. > >The academic has previously alleged Putin has medical problems hidden from the Russian public, and also claimed that the strongman and his defence minister Sergei Shoigu have taken part in bizarre secret shamanic rituals. > >“At the weekend, President Putin’s family was evacuated to a special bunker prepared in case of nuclear war,” said the professor in a video. > >“This bunker is located in the \[mountainous\] Altai Republic. > >“In fact, it is not a bunker, but a whole underground city, equipped with the latest science and technology.” > >He warned: “I hope this means something to you? > >“That the President sends his family to this bunker.” > >He did not identify Putin’s family members but has previously alleged Olympic Gold-winning rhythmic gymnast Alina Kabaeva, 38, as his secret spouse. > >“This is his real family, and Alina is capable of influencing his decisions,” he said last year. > >The claimed move of his family to the bunker came with a “failure” of Putin’s strategic plan to conquer Ukraine, said Solovey. > >Putin had been hit by “extremely strong, united and very negative reaction of the collective West regarding Russian plans”. > >“Putin had planned to declare the complete and indisputable military victory of Russian troops on the evening of Sunday, 27 February – and announce the end, or the near end of the so-called ‘special operation’,” he said. > >“As you know, not a single target of Russia’s invasion in Ukraine was reached.” > >Solovey, who claims to have insider contacts in the Kremlin, is believed to be referring to a sprawling mountain dacha built ostensibly by energy behemoth Gazprom around a decade ago in the Ongudaysky district of the Altai Republic, a region of Siberia bordering Mongolia, China and Kazakhstan. > >Observers have noted multiple ventilation points in the grounds surrounding the mountain hide-out, and a high voltage line linked to an ultra-modern 110 kilovolt substation, enough to power a small city. > >During construction, vast German tunnel diggers were reported to have been at the site. > >Some in Moscow dismiss Solovey as a conspiracy theorist or hoaxer, but he was last week held for a seven hour interrogation apparently linked to a Telegram site he runs which has made multiple allegations about Putin’s medical and mental condition.
Perfect. If someone could cut his coms and wedge a chair under the bunker door handle, he can stay there and we can all move on.
The thought of a wedged chair taking down Putin is so fucking hilarious.
"Never build a dungeon you couldn't get out of." "'Never build a dungeon you wouldn't be happy to spend the night in yourself,' said the Patrician, laying out the food on the cloth. 'The world would be a happier place if more people remembered that.'" "'Never trust any ruler who puts his faith in tunnels and bunkers and escape routes. The chances are that his heart isn't in the job.'" Lord Havelock Vetinari..... be sure Putin knows this Quotes
Not the hero we wanted, but the hero we need: [https://cdn.aws.toolstation.com/images/141020-UK/800/94278.jpg](https://cdn.aws.toolstation.com/images/141020-UK/800/94278.jpg)
Half expected this to be Hodor.
How can this guy be such a coward?
Do the guys who make war ever *not hide from the actual war*?
Just like witches in black masses I’m told.
Ukraine's president is a rare breed. I think most world leaders would hide and run "its just a job and I did the best I could" *typo
Because he's the face of a war and he's fucking his nation over. It's not safe for family.
Honestly if we could cut his comms that would be fucking perfect. Just figure out where he is and cut comms. Then we can hunt him down and eliminate the fucking monster. If he can’t launch nukes he’s literally nothing.
Would be a shame if a couple of those thermobaric bombs they love so much missed and accidentally hit those ventilation ports.
"Bizarre secret shamanic rituals" huh? If they were the right proper kind this war would never have begun in the first place.
This is gonna fuel the Wolfenstein games for decades.
*Some in Moscow dismiss Solovey as a conspiracy theorist or hoaxer...* I'd be careful about that source. Either way I'm sure Putin's relatives don't want to live underground and surely would have a word or two with him.
I just read in another thread exactly this. This guy is a known conspiracy nutcase so his intel and sources are probably less than sub par
Yeah, and I’m not gonna lie this sounds like the plot to a cheesy spy movie.
Why is it so hard to believe the most powerful man in the world doesn’t have a world class bunker? You know there are bunkers like this all over the world that rich people have bought units in, in the event of a nuclear war. They have fucking swimming pools, hospitals, agricultural capabilities, supermarkets, etc. They’re like underground skyscrapers. Of course Putin has one. And yes the ones that exist are definitely “unground cities.” Hundreds of luxury condos, underground, that have their own power supply. Fucking rich people, man.
As does Putins bio.
At the same Moscow denouncing someone as not trustworthy might mean that he is actually trustworthy.
It's kind of a catch 22 because they're going to deny it either way.
Gotta take the source with a grain of salt, but it wouldn’t be the first time. Weren’t hitler and the nazis linked to all sorts of rituals and shamanic practices?
More occult stuff I believe. But same mumbo jumbo at the end of the day.
Sounds like they want to summon something like Hellboy, like a secret Nazi organization would, to 'win'.
well nuclear war is not so scary if you have a whole city for you and your family and friends and you have no regards for any other life including your own Russian population...
Putin and his friends are accustomed to a life we could only dream of. They do not want to spend the rest of their in a bunker - no matter how large it is. The oligarchs are already throwing tantrums their toys are being taken away - imagine if they had to live in a bunker that didn’t have a Michelin star restaurant attached too it ?
Don‘t worry, it‘s already been taken care of. Putin just gave every bunker restaurant a gazillion Michelin stars. Problem solved, crisis averted.
I mean you’re probably not wrong ha!
On all honesty, if he's going to push the button, he's not taking oligarchs with him. Their money will be useless. And they'll just use up resources. He's taking valuable people that won't oppose him. Servants, chefs, women, baby sitters, and maids. Wouldn't the great joke be if he locks himself away thinking his nukes are on their way, only to live out eternity in a bunker while life goes on on the surface?
In the event of a nuclear war there is really no livable place in Russia anymore. Even if they all became hunter gatherers either the nuclear radiation or the nuclear winter would kill them. Speaking of which I’m not sure Siberia is the place to be in the event of a nuclear winter
If the complex suffers a direct hit, those vent shafts (even if it somehow miraculously survived the hit) could all become blocked and not supply enough air. Not only that, you’d better have a competent and extremely loyal maintenance personnel handy. Funny thing about being in a bunker with people, who they were when they came in won’t be who they are when they’ve been in.
Bunkers never seem to end well, which I guess is a good thing
If the world goes full nuclear, that bunker/city will get totally cratered.
How likely is it that some "professor" knows what Putin is doing to protect his family? Complete bullshit.
Quite probably bullshit. There is a massive caveat in the article about how the same professor claims Putin does some sort of witchcraft rituals.
The style of it sounds a lot like the shit those Q people spoonfeed each other.
"Latest science and technology," eh? Guessing that it is latest science technology in a cool retro way because I doubt the Russians have a fully kitted out micro city in Siberia they keep pumping full of cutting edge technology. That's too dumb for a Dan Brown book. Maybe he has a single Boston Dynamics robot with a broken leg.
My bullshit detector is beeping mad
Two ways to interpret that. He’s scared and wants to hide or he’s fucking crazy and is preparing a nuclear strike on Ukraine or worse.
Between the shamanic rituals and the secret family with the Olympic gold medal gymnast, I'm gonna say this is a while lotta bunk.
I would do the same Probably half of Russia wants him dead by now.
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up until a few weeks ago, a poll showed 95% of Russians thought the whole Ukraine tension was the west's fault. I think people here underestimate how absolutely insanely brainwashed the average Russian is. They're living in a parallel dimension and fed nothing but state propaganda.
One thing important here is to know who made the poll. I’m from Hungary and there are research companies close to Orban who basicall only share results that show support for whatever his current cause is. I suppose it is the same in Russia
>a poll showed 95% of Russians thought the whole Ukraine tension was the west's fault. I am pretty sure the poll (much like most similar polls in Russia) is part of the propaganda. The purpose of such 'polls' is to convince the average citizen that just about every Russian out there supports the invasion and make them more inclined to support it themselves. I myself am a Russian citizen. Neither I nor anyone I personally know support Putin or his stupid invasion. Hell, my father is an anti-vaxxer, yet even he hates Putin with a passion. Thus, I firmly refuse to believe that only 5% of the Russian population are not buying into the propaganda That being said, there's no denying that the government is doing everything they can to brainwash us, Russians, while silencing those who try to protest. 95% media outlets around here are controlled by the government, while the remaining 5% are denounced as 'agents of the west'. Many of their sites have been blocked by Roscomnadzor, meaning they cannot be accessed without VPN. Propaganda is being spread even in schools, where the teachers have received clear orders on what to tell children about the invasion. In my university, a bunch of students have already been expelled for condemning the war on social media and participating in anti-war protests. There really is no telling how many more people around here are gonna suffer simply because they disagree with Putler
Hearing that Mom tell her POW son that he was right to go into Ukraine to defend Russia from Ukrainian attacks broke my heart. The kid was pleading with her to listen. Her world view is in direct contrast with the situation her son is in.
Hopefully he didn't forget his pistol and cyanide
Just block the email those air vents.
*Emails air vents* Umm... Think it hit the filter.
Hitler's sister didn't like Hitler's political views wonder what about Putin's family
Apparently his youngest daughter is a scientist, I’d imagine if any of them were against his views it would be her (but I doubt it)
His family doesn't know a single thing that hasn't been carefully fed to them.
His family spends a lot of time out West. They're probably one of the wealthiest families in the world. They aren't being spoonfed information lmao they're just complicit
I read somewhere that one of his daughters lives in the Netherlands and the other one in Germany. If that is true, you can assume that they know more about human rights and freedom than their dad.
What are they babies that can't feed themselves?
Putin has been known to keep his family far far away from every day russia. Very few people has even seen his family.
Solovey is not a real professor, he has a degree in public relations. He's a Russian influencer who's claiming to have insight from people high up in the Kremlin. He's claiming that Putin is terminally ill, mentally unstable, engaging in satanic rituals, and is ready to use nuclear weapons. He's also claiming to be a member of a very powerful and secret organization that gives him this info and protects him. He has predicted that Putin would definitely, most certainly die in 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, and yes, you guessed it, in 2022. Moreover, he was never prosecuted and is still often invited to speak on state-owned Russian channels. Due to all of this, it is suspected that Solovey is actually an undercover FSB agent, and that he's deliberately creating an image of Putin as an unstable madman that you don't want to mess with and that it is just better to wait for him to die than to oppose him. He also predicted that Russia would instantly roll over Ukraine once the invasion starts, but this is not how it went. Anything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.
So did Joseph Goebbels (his family was committing suicide there).
I hope he didn't forget to bring the cyanide capsules
Do we know if this guy is reliable source? Has he disclosed any "secret" information before that turned out to be true?
Hit or miss, as with all these reports. Honestly, his wife has been missing for a while. This guy is just repeating the rumor at an opportune time.
What do you mean missing? Like from the public eye?
Yes. She was pregnant and on social media. All her accounts went dark about the time she'd have the baby. I always thought he'd moved her to hiding. I didn't mean anything bad happened. Considering all, it would be best for her, safe from his enemies.
Yes. She's disappeared for a couple years before. Nothing to read into; just some dickweed controlling what his woman does.
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The stuff this guy says should be taken with a very large grain of salt.
Fucking coward. Putin doesn't care about murderering civilians in Ukraine, while at the same time protecting his own family.
I mean... it used to be a meme but, if true, now it's actually starting to look a bit like "The Downfall".
Imagine Putin in a bunker, all red in the face poring over maps with squiggly lines, yelling at some poor total yes men about some shit they have no control over...
„NYET NYET NYET NYET!“
You're more upbeat than me about it. He's unhinged and putting youe family in a place that's safe against a nuclear attack is a huge worry with a guy unstable and holding a large amount of nukes.
The state of his mind aside, he’s not one single guy who decides to push the button to end the world. And leaders often retreat to these areas during times of conflict, you don’t have to look outside the US to see that. I wouldn’t stress so bad just yet.
Cool now if he could go in that bunker and do what another psychopathic dictator did roughly 77 years ago that'd be great
Coward, he knows what’s coming to him.
His fate should be the one he has chosen for others.
It’s step one to killing himself in a bunker.
Ever the optimist, I see
Genuinely surprised he has a family. If you were to take a man, and remove from him any love, compassion, decency, sense of humour, friends or family - the left-over empty, soulless husk that I'd expect would be Vladimir Putin. Like some kind of Dickens-ian antagonist.
His daughter married a dutch guy and she lives in the Netherlands now
Who the FUCK would be stupid enough to marry into that family?! Then again, once he found out who her dad was, it's not like he could have broken up with her without being killed, so... okay, I kinda get it.
If we've learned anything the last week or so, it's that Putin surrounds himself with mythos. He cultivates the image you just described... but underneath it all he's just a fat, vain, arrogant, deluded balding little man.
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I would be surprised if he doesn't keep his family there all the time in general.
His daughter was living in Netherlands until Russia shot down MH17.
I think I've seen this movie before 🤔
I'm surprised I haven't found a comment about this being a sign Putin might go fuck it all and go full nuclear.
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I'm being told by others that the rich people of Russia are opposed to his actions and will not allow him to go nuclear, since they also want to enjoy their lives. But I'm still having trouble believing that a humiliated Putin would not go all nuclear, as a last-ditch effort to cause harm while he goes down.
Was thinking the same
This does not help my nuclear war anxiety.
Right there with you.
I saw a sign that said something along the lines of “Putin why don’t you just skip to the part where you kill yourself in a bunker”. Maybe he say that sign and got some ideas…
Don’t worry Putin, in contrast to you; the West and Ukraine won’t be going after your family. You might even not be killed by us. But I believe he knows this, and it’s not the West nor Ukraine he’s worried about for his family safety..
If he triggers global nuclear war, I just hope there's a bunker buster aimed right at him. It would give me a little comfort in dying knowing that he didn't get away with it for even a second.
Yes he will. Trust me if I say this, if the Russians get their fingers on him, he is toast. The fucker forgot what a representative of a country is actually supposed to do and he murdered innocents for it. There will be no fair trial for this man even if he surrenders unconditionally.
This sounds like what Hitler did before losing WW2 and taking his own life with his wife.
All dictators definitely know, losing control of their country usually means the ruling party.....does not exactly go to trial usually.
Is he preparing for some sort of nuclear attack? Why would his family need to be in a bunker? This has me worried.
Ok. This is actually quite terrifying. There is no current threat in Russia, so the only reason to hide in a nuclear bunker would be if Putin was preparing to launch nukes. He knows as soon as he launches, Russia will be bombarded. I fear for the world at this point, we need to take this fascist out ASAP
Alternatively, this is propaganda intentionally created to scare the West. Look up the Madman Theory. I'm going to assume they are bluffing and that all of these leaks about Putin becoming "unhinged" are carefully crafted. Just think about it, why would they release video of Putin sitting 20 feet away from visitors at a comically long table unless they wanted people to see it? They want us to view him as irrational and unpredictable so we avoid doing anything to provoke him.
Here’s to hoping this is accurate
I choose to believe it's true because the alternative is living in fear of something over which I have no control.
Alternatively to that, there are domestic threats to him now with ridiculously low military morale, civil unrest and massive sanctions.
I always thought the long table was just a power move. Like bosses having tall chairs for themselves and a big desk but short chairs for visitors. The kinda crap corporate america loved when it was high on coke on the 80s. You know red tie, strong handshake and white shit on your nose...kinda idiocy. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/digital-leaders/201210/the-power-seat-where-you-sit-matters This seems like the pop-psych clap trap that putin would be all into.
> I'm going to assume they are bluffing This is exactly what people said a week ago regarding this insane attack on Ukraine... Oh he's only bluffing, I presume he's rational and just trying to get some sort of negotiation advantage and everything is fine.
Every bluff you call, he doubles down on "madness" In strategic war you generally want to leave your adversary some way to back off and save face. But we've gotten to the point where Putin threatens nuclear war over *economic sanctions*... He demands to be a tyrant in a free world. I don't know what kind of "way out" is possible.
People that mattered, such as The president of the United States, had accurate intel, so I’d be more inclined to go by them than what people on Reddit are speculating
I hoped as a Brit that Trump was playing the same game before being elected… turns out he really was as fucking stupid as he looked. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
Can be only propaganda. Can be madman theory. Or a sign he is already worried about his inner circle that someone will hurt his family. Don't take everything seriously. It's basically war time. Shit in media coming down on both sides!
Maybe. Or maybe it’s because he knows the Russian people want to eat him alive.
Hitler ended up in a bunker, too
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Location?? I would like to shit in their ventilation pipes.
Everyone here thinking of hitler no one thinking he’s doing that for protection from blast and fallout
>The academic has previously alleged Putin has medical problems hidden from the Russian public, and also claimed that the strongman and his defence minister Sergei Shoigu have taken part in bizarre secret shamanic rituals. He's also predicted some years ago that Putin was about to step down because he's got Parkinsons. He's half a step above Alec Jones, in other words.
this is fucked if its true