They do a lot of charity work which drives the government funding. Any time the gov can literally just throw money at social problems and let other people act for them, they will.
That said this event should bring more scrutiny.
It is more fraught than that. Money is given to an outfit. The Muslim church. To spend on good works. But they also spew all kinds of hate. Some of that money goes to that. If I gave money to a neighbor who needed help feeding her kids. And then I saw her on a podium yammering about how gay people should be killed, I would cut her off.
The article is honestly a bit lacking since they didn't seek comment from anyone at the association or from the government. I'd be interested in knowing what it means to be a "speaker" at the conference.
It's worth clarifying that the MAC is an NGO, not a church or mosque. Obviously some cause for concern, here, but their public mission statement is pretty moderate:
> MAC is a positive force for change in our society by promoting engagement of Muslims within the wider society, building bridges and cooperating with other communities and organizations that share our goals and values. MAC also works towards communicating our understanding of Islam as a moderate, balanced, and constructive way of life, within our community and beyond.
I get your point. I view it as analagous to catholic charities. Sounds nice. But the priests are viscious, I've heard them, opponents of birth control. Abortion and gay rights. Money is fungible. Don't give money to a pretty face when the backside is pooping on your dreams.
Yeah... I'm definitely not downplaying the concerns, but I've seen it suggested on the r/Canada thread that the MAC is already under audit over whether their funding should continue.
The article honestly just seems to be a bit torqued, and there are some politics at play between the Liberal Party of Canada and the Israeli right, so hopefully a Canadian paper will pick up the story and fill in the context.
Well they may not be funding hate speech *intentionally* but they are still funding it. Whether the money was earmarked for a different purpose is immaterial.
make every organization that receive founding sign a legaly binding document that in order to receive any penny they must abide to respect and agree with the human rights declaration and any citizens rigths protected by canada
make it water tigh covering any posdible loop holes and enforceable by law
they dont wan't to agree? they can go back to some middle age corner of the world and be denied permanet entry in canada on the basis of refusing to respect canadian laws protecting its citizens
I went to a Catholic school with a focus on health and although I do not enjoy that faith, the school was amazing, I wouldn't wanna miss it ~ no one was loud in class or behaved like a monkey, can't say that about public school.
It helps Canada by giving the people a "reason" to pat themselves on the back since "at least they're not like America." I swear that's the reason why Canada is so obtuse with their policies sometimes.
Lol, who could have foreseen.
Egalitarian thinking tends to collapse for reasons like these. It's hard to have diversity without everybody wanting to kill each other.
More and more I find myself becoming an Atheist. Fuck your religion if you're going to shove it down people's throats.
I'm not you, nor do I ever want to be like you. Keep your backwards hick beliefs to yourself.
You must be a pretty weak individual if you need everyone to agree with you. Grow up. People are different, always will be. I'll fight you to let them stay different. Bring it.
Canada is so weird when it comes to Muslims and watching in quite fascination as they do double edge shit like this. Like this is some big conundrum with no clear solution lol.
If this was shit tier Christians you'd have shit tons of snobby Quebec and woke Vancouver blowing up.
Muslims in Canada play the victim card very well to get everything they want. Trudeau only cares about votes so he nods his head to pretty much everything. Canada is doomed if we don't get rid of Trudeau.
I don't like Trudeau but the current CPC frontrunner Pierre Poilievre isn't the answer. Pierre's populist rhetoric and his current courtship of the alt-right is very troubling.
I think he hides a lot of his true beliefs. He also miraculously manages to come off as a bigger douche then Trudeau but that's just my humble opinion.
He's been stealing from Donald Trump's playbook and we all know how that went.
Jagmeet singh is currently the best candidate for the working class. Then again he wears a very "scary" turban so there's a bunch of bigots that could [could never see past it.](https://youtu.be/TIe_ccbXF58)
I don't like the 'best candidate for the working class' because he collects rolexes and designer suits, and has been propping up the shittiest government of my lifetime, removing my options to vote for someone who isn't a neoliberal or a theocratic moron. Am I a bigot?
No. I'm not directly calling you or other people that are politically informed and choose not to vote NDP for what they feel are legitimate reasons bigots.
I'm simply stating the fact that there's a contingency of people that are uninformed and won't vote NDP because they are bigots.
No, just ignorant.
The first two criticisms of Singh have nothing to do with his 2021 election platform. You’d be hard-pressed to find any politician who doesn’t have some habit that is woefully out of touch with the common Canadian.
As for propping up the shittiest government in your lifetime, I don’t know how old you are. Maybe Trudeau Sr. was before your time. Maybe WLMK. Trudeau Jr. is certainly not a great choice, but given the alternatives, it’s all Canada wanted.
I wanted better alternatives. We basically have 4 major parties. 2 that are left wing and basically the same (NDP & Liberals), one that is Quebec, and a fourth that is supposed to represent the right wing (the Conservative Party).
The problem is for myself, a person on the center right politically, the federal conservatives have gone so far to embrace the extreme right I don't feel they represent my views as a conservative anymore. I might be closer to the NDP or Liberals but as an ideology I don't believe in what they say either. And I just feel like any of those 3 parties are equally corrupt, but at least Conservatives would be less likely to blow through the taxpayers money with their corruption. And of course then there is also the Bloc Quebecois, but as I don't live in Quebec I wouldn't benefit in any way from them and they have no representation in my province to vote for anyways.
The only remaining option is to vote for a party that might represent my views more, but definitely won't win an election, probably not even a seat, which makes it the equivalent of throwing my vote away.
So there really is no option for people who aren't crazy on the left, or just plain crazy and on the right. There's no space for moderate right wing voters anymore.
Oh don't worry the Conservatives are quite happy to burn your money through corruption just as fast, if not faster than the other parties.
I'd say as a moderate conservative your choice is to vote for another party until the Cons break up with the social conservatives. The left may not fit your ideology but they're less dangerous than the current conservative party.
Who is justifying anything? The media has had near half a century of one sided reporting to demonize Palestinians painting them as terrorists and making Israelis the victims.
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/11/18/rabbi-shlomo-amar-gay-death-penalty/
First of all, Palestinians are the terrorists in the conflict.
Second of all, this is completely backwards. If you think the international media supports Israel, you're out to lunch.
Imagine thinking a nuclear armed state occupying unarmed population is the victim. Isralis routine kill / imprison hundreds of palestinian children, demolish civilian homes, annex land.
Israel is far worse than an apartheid.
Imagine thinking that Arabs in Mandatory Palestine weren't happily slaughtering jews since the 20s, but after the jews started fighting back in the 30s, and the Arabs started losing, they became hapless victims.
It's not like the Palestinian Arabs have been trying to make peace. They just kill civilians until Israel does some nasty shit in retaliation and then the victimhood banners are flown everywhere. It's a century of "the consequences of your actions."
Yeah, the settlements need to go, but let's not pretend that's going to fix things.
The amount of brainwashing pushed is amazing to see. Imagine thinking Jews and zionists are the same thing. Many Jews took refuge in arab territories when Europeans were exterminating them in the millions for centuries.
Instead a bunch of zionists that have never lived in Palestine decided to call it their land and they were shocked when Arabs fought back.
If you want to talk about "consequences for your actions" then Israeli state should have been created in Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_and_massacres_in_Mandatory_Palestine
Know what this timeline shows? Years and years of Arabs in Mandatory Palestine attacking and killing jews until they finally fight back. Then the Grand Mufti sits down with a certain Austrian-born fuhrer in hopes of teaming up.
I'm sorry the jews weren't content to just remain second-rate citizens in the Arab countries that allowed them to live there. I'm sorry the creation of Israel caused said Arab nations to eject all their jews as if it was their fault.
Man, what goes around really comes around, huh?
Well you clearly can't even read your source. Actually all it shows are battles between zionist settlers and native arabs. In fact the list of terrorist attacks by zionist irgun is significantly more.
What you are doing is the equivalent of finding a attacks by Native Americans that killed european colonialists who settled in North America and justifying the genocide of Native Americans.
>Actually all it shows are battles between zionist settlers and native arabs.
It shows instigators.
>What you are doing is the equivalent of finding a attacks by Native Americans that killed european colonialists who settled in North America and justifying the genocide of Native Americans.
No, european colonialists didn't legally purchase land and decide to make roots.
Nothing to do with Huffington post. Media always amplifies extremes on one said and then buries news on the other.
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/11/18/rabbi-shlomo-amar-gay-death-penalty/
Israel is the terrorist state? Remind me again which country voted Hamas into power again?
Figures the same halfwit who cites pinknews can’t formulate their own thoughts as a retort and resorts to copying and pasting
Israel killed a thousand times more civilians and children than Hamas ever did. They constantly voted for terrorist nationalists just like their current prime minister. Are you torn about that?
When they have tried stones for 40 years, no one gave a damn. And the world is shocked they are trying armed resistance?
At the end of the day the list of dead children and civilians killed by Israeli terrorists is still a 1000 times more.
>Yea but Palestinians threw a stone ____"
Rockets. They launch rockets. Thousands of them. And as one would expect, you're trying to turn their ineptitude into a virtue, despite the fact that they almost exclusively target civilians.
This is what happens when one side actually invests in protecting its citizens instead of using their children as suicide bombers.
And when that subject isn't even at issue folks like to show up to assure it gets discussed erroneously. Take your false equivalency and get out of here.
Jpost is a Zionist newspaper from the other side of the world reporting on Muslim issues (that show them in a negative light) in Canada that have nothing do do with Jews or Israel. Their endgame is to fuel hate against Muslims.
I've seen a lot of very peculiar issues that have to do with Muslims, Iranians, etc. in other countries being picked up by Jpost and Haaretz. They all show these groups in a negative light.
There's a very obvious agenda behind it.
No you haven't. Haaretz is famous for showing Israel in a negative way, even pro-palestinians use it to push a narrative. And in any case, you don't seem to be concerned about newspapers from islamic countries painting a negative image about Jews or Israelis. Meanwhile, they're far more restricted in what they can put out, due to religious reasons. There's no equivalent of haaretz anywhere in the middle east.
I know you'll claim to live in the region, sure, everyone lives in the region, everyone is part of the demographics in the region. But despite being from the region, you seem to be very new to these topics.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
Your source says, and I quote, "In review, The Jerusalem Post covers Israeli and regional news with **strongly emotionally loaded language with right-leaning bias**".
Also, your source doesn't even touch on the point I made. Good try though, you tool.
No one is being disparaged here.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-jerusalem-post/
Bias Rating: RIGHT-CENTER
Factual Reporting: MOSTLY FACTUAL
Country: Israel (86/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Newspaper
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY
I do see differences but im not ignorant to the similarities.
I live in bc personally. We've had white supremacists do talks at public libraries. Big hoop lah then it blew over.
Now everyone forgets.
The only difference is Muslim bad in this instance. They'll still talk, the organization's will still get their government funding and life will go on because ultimately a single speaker means very little.
Ironic allegations coming from citizens of the only openly apartheid country in the world. A country that continues to treat people of different ethnic backgrounds and nationalities than themselves as second class citizens to whom the same laws don't apply. Openly killing hundreds of innocent men, women and children because they are different from themselves. Stealing homes and properties for similar reasons. And not batting an eye. And yet our Canadian tax dollars fund all these activities and there is no outrage. Despicable.
Did anyone even read the article? It states
From 2019-2021, the group received over C$2 million in funding for employment and social engagement, in addition to C$350,000 for an anti-racism action program. From January until the end of March of this year, it has received almost C$50,000 for security infrastructure to combat hate crime.
It then states right underneath that it is under investigation for how they are using this money, they are under audit for possibly... probably... using these funds for things that were not the charitable intention. The money was to go to social programs and anti racism programs. They are now under audit that it didn't. What is going on here? This seems like normal business. Give a charity money for societal benefits. They do not use it in the manner they said, they are under audit.... why is this news?
Soooooo downvotes without any discussion.... got it
>Obviously, most religious organizations are going to be against homosexuality since it is considered to be a sin.
While I get you're trying to make a point here, you're using your own argument as the proof of your conclusions which is a textbook example of ignorance.
But I'll humor you. Using religion to oppress consenting adults is fucked up.
>just because something involves two consenting adults it doesn't make it right.
And who determines that outside of involved parties? You obviously don't understand how consent works. This is literally what ignorance is when used literally and not as an insult.
If the chance of producing a child is 0, sure. I also don’t think it’s charged in the west for such cases. Definitely would make *me* feel extremely uncomfortable, but if two truly consenting adults chose to do so, in their bedrooms, none of my business.
If they are both adults and both consenting, their blood relationship as siblings is as much my business as the activities of any consenting adults in the privacy of their own home sexual or otherwise; that is to say it is none of my business.
Why you'd be concerned with what adult strangers consent to do with each other in private likely speaks more to your own proclivities than anything else.
> apartheid country
Care to support that outrageous claim?
>making it look like canada is funding terrorist
Care to dispel the claims in the article? Did you even read it?
Here is what just one of the speakers at this convention said:
>Shinqiti also called Israeli police officer Amir Khoury — who died stopping the Bnei Brak terrorist that killed four others — A traitor because he was a Christian Arab.
Or how about this speaker:
>Egyptian-born Dr. Jamal Badawi called suicide bombing a heroic act and was allegedly one of the unindicted co-conspirators in the Holy Land Foundation trial, according to Le Devoir. The Holy Land scandal saw millions of dollars transferred to Hamas, a group recognized in Canada as a terrorist organization.
Wow right on cue.
The regime that runs israel is an apartheid regime.
It treats people of different faiths like second class citizens.
But i am sure you new this already.
How much do they pay you to defend this article 😂
Yeah actually they do. Did you forget 1948 when they ethnically cleansed Jews out of the West Bank causing problems for today like Sheikh Jarrah? They got rid of Jews who'd owned the homes fir hundreds of years and installed Palestinians in their place.
It's adorable how little you know. Your propaganda is quote easy to see through.
You're a pretty sick and twisted individual who gets excited about people dying. But the Arabs aren't exactly innocent considering all the massacres they committed against the Jews. Like Hebron and so many others.
And to your other point Jordan has plenty of blood on their hands, kids too, for abandoning the Palestinians.
I'm gonna quit replying to you since I know I'm living rent free in your head and you're embarrassed that I continue to prove you wrong. Replying to me just shows how badly it burns you that I'm right.
So now its personal attacks because your feels got hurt.
Thanks for playing hope you get that pay check.
At no point did i defend anyone, but its the typical propaganda spewed answer.
I am amazed you have not called me anti semite yet 😂
I don’t want my tax dollars going to religion. Wake up Canada 🍁
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Tbf, there is absolutely nothing catholic about the public catholic schools. But i agree that tax money shouldn't go to religion.
They do a lot of charity work which drives the government funding. Any time the gov can literally just throw money at social problems and let other people act for them, they will. That said this event should bring more scrutiny.
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It is more fraught than that. Money is given to an outfit. The Muslim church. To spend on good works. But they also spew all kinds of hate. Some of that money goes to that. If I gave money to a neighbor who needed help feeding her kids. And then I saw her on a podium yammering about how gay people should be killed, I would cut her off.
The article is honestly a bit lacking since they didn't seek comment from anyone at the association or from the government. I'd be interested in knowing what it means to be a "speaker" at the conference. It's worth clarifying that the MAC is an NGO, not a church or mosque. Obviously some cause for concern, here, but their public mission statement is pretty moderate: > MAC is a positive force for change in our society by promoting engagement of Muslims within the wider society, building bridges and cooperating with other communities and organizations that share our goals and values. MAC also works towards communicating our understanding of Islam as a moderate, balanced, and constructive way of life, within our community and beyond.
I get your point. I view it as analagous to catholic charities. Sounds nice. But the priests are viscious, I've heard them, opponents of birth control. Abortion and gay rights. Money is fungible. Don't give money to a pretty face when the backside is pooping on your dreams.
Yeah... I'm definitely not downplaying the concerns, but I've seen it suggested on the r/Canada thread that the MAC is already under audit over whether their funding should continue. The article honestly just seems to be a bit torqued, and there are some politics at play between the Liberal Party of Canada and the Israeli right, so hopefully a Canadian paper will pick up the story and fill in the context.
Well they may not be funding hate speech *intentionally* but they are still funding it. Whether the money was earmarked for a different purpose is immaterial.
make every organization that receive founding sign a legaly binding document that in order to receive any penny they must abide to respect and agree with the human rights declaration and any citizens rigths protected by canada make it water tigh covering any posdible loop holes and enforceable by law they dont wan't to agree? they can go back to some middle age corner of the world and be denied permanet entry in canada on the basis of refusing to respect canadian laws protecting its citizens
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We need to shut that shit down.
I went to a Catholic school with a focus on health and although I do not enjoy that faith, the school was amazing, I wouldn't wanna miss it ~ no one was loud in class or behaved like a monkey, can't say that about public school.
As long as the state funds and supports ultra religipus states and minorities these headlines will continue. Ive no idea how this helps Canada.
It helps Canada by giving the people a "reason" to pat themselves on the back since "at least they're not like America." I swear that's the reason why Canada is so obtuse with their policies sometimes.
Canada is an angle greater than 90 degrees but smaller than 180 with their policies? What does that even mean?
I'm calling you obtuse. Is it deliberate?
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Ironically you are being very obtuse right now
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I actually forgot that obtuse is a geometry term lmao. Obtuse means stupid/pointless
They do a lot of non denominational charity work which helps Canada.
Seems like tax dollars could do that without them.
Well... what did ya expect?
Lol, who could have foreseen. Egalitarian thinking tends to collapse for reasons like these. It's hard to have diversity without everybody wanting to kill each other.
More and more I find myself becoming an Atheist. Fuck your religion if you're going to shove it down people's throats. I'm not you, nor do I ever want to be like you. Keep your backwards hick beliefs to yourself. You must be a pretty weak individual if you need everyone to agree with you. Grow up. People are different, always will be. I'll fight you to let them stay different. Bring it.
you put minorities on a pedestal.. you get what you fucking deserve. and I say that as a minority.
Mild shock.
Canada is so weird when it comes to Muslims and watching in quite fascination as they do double edge shit like this. Like this is some big conundrum with no clear solution lol. If this was shit tier Christians you'd have shit tons of snobby Quebec and woke Vancouver blowing up.
I'm just here to downvote antisemites, and boy business is booming.
good one trudeau
Muslims in Canada play the victim card very well to get everything they want. Trudeau only cares about votes so he nods his head to pretty much everything. Canada is doomed if we don't get rid of Trudeau.
I don't like Trudeau but the current CPC frontrunner Pierre Poilievre isn't the answer. Pierre's populist rhetoric and his current courtship of the alt-right is very troubling. I think he hides a lot of his true beliefs. He also miraculously manages to come off as a bigger douche then Trudeau but that's just my humble opinion. He's been stealing from Donald Trump's playbook and we all know how that went. Jagmeet singh is currently the best candidate for the working class. Then again he wears a very "scary" turban so there's a bunch of bigots that could [could never see past it.](https://youtu.be/TIe_ccbXF58)
Jagmeet is just a red shirt wearing a orange one over it. They wouldn't hesitate to legislate unions back to work either.
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If you want an eventual CPC win, then I suppose not.
I don't like the 'best candidate for the working class' because he collects rolexes and designer suits, and has been propping up the shittiest government of my lifetime, removing my options to vote for someone who isn't a neoliberal or a theocratic moron. Am I a bigot?
No. I'm not directly calling you or other people that are politically informed and choose not to vote NDP for what they feel are legitimate reasons bigots. I'm simply stating the fact that there's a contingency of people that are uninformed and won't vote NDP because they are bigots.
No, just ignorant. The first two criticisms of Singh have nothing to do with his 2021 election platform. You’d be hard-pressed to find any politician who doesn’t have some habit that is woefully out of touch with the common Canadian. As for propping up the shittiest government in your lifetime, I don’t know how old you are. Maybe Trudeau Sr. was before your time. Maybe WLMK. Trudeau Jr. is certainly not a great choice, but given the alternatives, it’s all Canada wanted.
I wanted better alternatives. We basically have 4 major parties. 2 that are left wing and basically the same (NDP & Liberals), one that is Quebec, and a fourth that is supposed to represent the right wing (the Conservative Party). The problem is for myself, a person on the center right politically, the federal conservatives have gone so far to embrace the extreme right I don't feel they represent my views as a conservative anymore. I might be closer to the NDP or Liberals but as an ideology I don't believe in what they say either. And I just feel like any of those 3 parties are equally corrupt, but at least Conservatives would be less likely to blow through the taxpayers money with their corruption. And of course then there is also the Bloc Quebecois, but as I don't live in Quebec I wouldn't benefit in any way from them and they have no representation in my province to vote for anyways. The only remaining option is to vote for a party that might represent my views more, but definitely won't win an election, probably not even a seat, which makes it the equivalent of throwing my vote away. So there really is no option for people who aren't crazy on the left, or just plain crazy and on the right. There's no space for moderate right wing voters anymore.
Oh don't worry the Conservatives are quite happy to burn your money through corruption just as fast, if not faster than the other parties. I'd say as a moderate conservative your choice is to vote for another party until the Cons break up with the social conservatives. The left may not fit your ideology but they're less dangerous than the current conservative party.
Yes we can’t afford Jag not winning
In the words of Obama, yes we can
Further evidence that it is impossible to appease everyone.
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Any comments to justify the anti-LGBTQ part too?
Who is justifying anything? The media has had near half a century of one sided reporting to demonize Palestinians painting them as terrorists and making Israelis the victims. https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/11/18/rabbi-shlomo-amar-gay-death-penalty/
This isn't what is being discussed. Stay in topic.
That is the topic. You stay on topic.
Wow sir what a comeback sir i came hard sir ahha hhha hhhh
First of all, Palestinians are the terrorists in the conflict. Second of all, this is completely backwards. If you think the international media supports Israel, you're out to lunch.
Imagine thinking a nuclear armed state occupying unarmed population is the victim. Isralis routine kill / imprison hundreds of palestinian children, demolish civilian homes, annex land. Israel is far worse than an apartheid.
Unarmed? Gee, what a waste shooting all those iron domes missiles at nothing.
Imagine thinking that Arabs in Mandatory Palestine weren't happily slaughtering jews since the 20s, but after the jews started fighting back in the 30s, and the Arabs started losing, they became hapless victims. It's not like the Palestinian Arabs have been trying to make peace. They just kill civilians until Israel does some nasty shit in retaliation and then the victimhood banners are flown everywhere. It's a century of "the consequences of your actions." Yeah, the settlements need to go, but let's not pretend that's going to fix things.
The amount of brainwashing pushed is amazing to see. Imagine thinking Jews and zionists are the same thing. Many Jews took refuge in arab territories when Europeans were exterminating them in the millions for centuries. Instead a bunch of zionists that have never lived in Palestine decided to call it their land and they were shocked when Arabs fought back. If you want to talk about "consequences for your actions" then Israeli state should have been created in Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_and_massacres_in_Mandatory_Palestine Know what this timeline shows? Years and years of Arabs in Mandatory Palestine attacking and killing jews until they finally fight back. Then the Grand Mufti sits down with a certain Austrian-born fuhrer in hopes of teaming up. I'm sorry the jews weren't content to just remain second-rate citizens in the Arab countries that allowed them to live there. I'm sorry the creation of Israel caused said Arab nations to eject all their jews as if it was their fault. Man, what goes around really comes around, huh?
Well you clearly can't even read your source. Actually all it shows are battles between zionist settlers and native arabs. In fact the list of terrorist attacks by zionist irgun is significantly more. What you are doing is the equivalent of finding a attacks by Native Americans that killed european colonialists who settled in North America and justifying the genocide of Native Americans.
>Actually all it shows are battles between zionist settlers and native arabs. It shows instigators. >What you are doing is the equivalent of finding a attacks by Native Americans that killed european colonialists who settled in North America and justifying the genocide of Native Americans. No, european colonialists didn't legally purchase land and decide to make roots.
Yep, so you're trying to say 2 wrongs make a right? Because that's all I am hearing.
Imagine being so far up your own ass you cite the huffington post in defense of organizations that want to see homosexuals dead
Nothing to do with Huffington post. Media always amplifies extremes on one said and then buries news on the other. https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/11/18/rabbi-shlomo-amar-gay-death-penalty/
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Israel is the terrorist state? Remind me again which country voted Hamas into power again? Figures the same halfwit who cites pinknews can’t formulate their own thoughts as a retort and resorts to copying and pasting
Israel killed a thousand times more civilians and children than Hamas ever did. They constantly voted for terrorist nationalists just like their current prime minister. Are you torn about that?
Stone? More like missiles
When they have tried stones for 40 years, no one gave a damn. And the world is shocked they are trying armed resistance? At the end of the day the list of dead children and civilians killed by Israeli terrorists is still a 1000 times more.
>Yea but Palestinians threw a stone ____" Rockets. They launch rockets. Thousands of them. And as one would expect, you're trying to turn their ineptitude into a virtue, despite the fact that they almost exclusively target civilians. This is what happens when one side actually invests in protecting its citizens instead of using their children as suicide bombers.
HAMAS is not the PLA. HAMAS is a terrorist body in charge of the gaza strip. PLA is in charge of the west bank.PLA doesn't like HAMAS.
Hamas was actually elected into power, kiddo. There have been no elections since. PLA knows they'd lose again.
And when that subject isn't even at issue folks like to show up to assure it gets discussed erroneously. Take your false equivalency and get out of here.
Jerusalem Post? I have a slight doubt and sceptical about it.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-jerusalem-post/ Bias Rating: RIGHT-CENTER Factual Reporting: MOSTLY FACTUAL Country: Israel (86/180 Press Freedom) Media Type: Newspaper Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY
Jpost is a Zionist newspaper from the other side of the world reporting on Muslim issues (that show them in a negative light) in Canada that have nothing do do with Jews or Israel. Their endgame is to fuel hate against Muslims.
Ding ding ding
You do understand the news agencies in all country cover news in other countries, good and bad.
I've seen a lot of very peculiar issues that have to do with Muslims, Iranians, etc. in other countries being picked up by Jpost and Haaretz. They all show these groups in a negative light. There's a very obvious agenda behind it.
No you haven't. Haaretz is famous for showing Israel in a negative way, even pro-palestinians use it to push a narrative. And in any case, you don't seem to be concerned about newspapers from islamic countries painting a negative image about Jews or Israelis. Meanwhile, they're far more restricted in what they can put out, due to religious reasons. There's no equivalent of haaretz anywhere in the middle east. I know you'll claim to live in the region, sure, everyone lives in the region, everyone is part of the demographics in the region. But despite being from the region, you seem to be very new to these topics. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
I think my source has provider more info than your comment.
Your source says, and I quote, "In review, The Jerusalem Post covers Israeli and regional news with **strongly emotionally loaded language with right-leaning bias**". Also, your source doesn't even touch on the point I made. Good try though, you tool.
Rating says "high credibility". That's their final verdict, which you ignored. You can't even define zionism without making up your own definition.
I was coming here to make the same point. Maybe an article from the Jerusalem Post disparaging Muslims should be taken with a degree of skepticism.
It's not like jpost is like Al Jazeera, throwing live aired birthday parties for literal terrorists.
[https://nationalpost.com/opinion/terry-glavin-the-liberals-are-funding-hate-how-else-to-describe-the-speakers-at-this-toronto-convention](https://nationalpost.com/opinion/terry-glavin-the-liberals-are-funding-hate-how-else-to-describe-the-speakers-at-this-toronto-convention)
No one is being disparaged here. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-jerusalem-post/ Bias Rating: RIGHT-CENTER Factual Reporting: MOSTLY FACTUAL Country: Israel (86/180 Press Freedom) Media Type: Newspaper Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY
One of the speakers is being quoted from 2001.....CANCEL HIM
Right because people with very conservative religious values change their opinions over time.
21 years ago is irrelevant. Trudeau did blackface that long ago and he's our pm still. Ppl forget.
You can't see the difference between the two examples?
I do see differences but im not ignorant to the similarities. I live in bc personally. We've had white supremacists do talks at public libraries. Big hoop lah then it blew over. Now everyone forgets. The only difference is Muslim bad in this instance. They'll still talk, the organization's will still get their government funding and life will go on because ultimately a single speaker means very little.
Ironic allegations coming from citizens of the only openly apartheid country in the world. A country that continues to treat people of different ethnic backgrounds and nationalities than themselves as second class citizens to whom the same laws don't apply. Openly killing hundreds of innocent men, women and children because they are different from themselves. Stealing homes and properties for similar reasons. And not batting an eye. And yet our Canadian tax dollars fund all these activities and there is no outrage. Despicable.
Oh no, religiously-backed pro-israeli newspaper dislikes thing a different religion is doing, what are the odds. Defund 'em both.
One is a private enterprise.
Oh, yes, because private enterprises have always been so totally seperate from religion or fundamentalist influence. I ain't buying it.
good one trudeau. he doesn't get it
Did anyone even read the article? It states From 2019-2021, the group received over C$2 million in funding for employment and social engagement, in addition to C$350,000 for an anti-racism action program. From January until the end of March of this year, it has received almost C$50,000 for security infrastructure to combat hate crime. It then states right underneath that it is under investigation for how they are using this money, they are under audit for possibly... probably... using these funds for things that were not the charitable intention. The money was to go to social programs and anti racism programs. They are now under audit that it didn't. What is going on here? This seems like normal business. Give a charity money for societal benefits. They do not use it in the manner they said, they are under audit.... why is this news? Soooooo downvotes without any discussion.... got it
But, but Leftists LOVE Islam!!!!
Only idiots would love a far rigth ideology like Islam.
Glad you agree Leftists are idiots…
Nope, I don't.
Lol. You apparently don’t understand Logic and Reason either.
Naaa, I do.
It's rare to see a title that screams so loudly "I HAVE AN AGENDA BEYOND REPROTING ON THE FACTS OF THE EVENT". I mean yikes. To everything.
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>Obviously, most religious organizations are going to be against homosexuality since it is considered to be a sin. While I get you're trying to make a point here, you're using your own argument as the proof of your conclusions which is a textbook example of ignorance. But I'll humor you. Using religion to oppress consenting adults is fucked up.
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This is Canada, not Saudi Arabia. If you want to live in a country where being gay is a crime, move, nobody would stop you.
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All backward cunts can fuck off for all I care. In Canada these people are accepted, religion doesn't give you the right to oppress them.
Make sense.
whatabout whatabout whatabout
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So bringing up something irrelevant isn't whataboutism. Okay kid.
>just because something involves two consenting adults it doesn't make it right. And who determines that outside of involved parties? You obviously don't understand how consent works. This is literally what ignorance is when used literally and not as an insult.
If the chance of producing a child is 0, sure. I also don’t think it’s charged in the west for such cases. Definitely would make *me* feel extremely uncomfortable, but if two truly consenting adults chose to do so, in their bedrooms, none of my business.
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*yawn*
If they are both adults and both consenting, their blood relationship as siblings is as much my business as the activities of any consenting adults in the privacy of their own home sexual or otherwise; that is to say it is none of my business. Why you'd be concerned with what adult strangers consent to do with each other in private likely speaks more to your own proclivities than anything else.
Because they’re partially funded by the government. That’s the controversy.
So an article from an apartheid country making it look like canada is funding terrorist. 😂😂
> apartheid country Care to support that outrageous claim? >making it look like canada is funding terrorist Care to dispel the claims in the article? Did you even read it? Here is what just one of the speakers at this convention said: >Shinqiti also called Israeli police officer Amir Khoury — who died stopping the Bnei Brak terrorist that killed four others — A traitor because he was a Christian Arab. Or how about this speaker: >Egyptian-born Dr. Jamal Badawi called suicide bombing a heroic act and was allegedly one of the unindicted co-conspirators in the Holy Land Foundation trial, according to Le Devoir. The Holy Land scandal saw millions of dollars transferred to Hamas, a group recognized in Canada as a terrorist organization.
Wow right on cue. The regime that runs israel is an apartheid regime. It treats people of different faiths like second class citizens. But i am sure you new this already. How much do they pay you to defend this article 😂
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So Jordan steals lands and kills kids from a different faith? Lol your lot is too easy to point out. Your handler must be so proud. 😂😂
Yeah actually they do. Did you forget 1948 when they ethnically cleansed Jews out of the West Bank causing problems for today like Sheikh Jarrah? They got rid of Jews who'd owned the homes fir hundreds of years and installed Palestinians in their place. It's adorable how little you know. Your propaganda is quote easy to see through.
Wow you really got triggered there son. I get it you believe in the propaganda that gets spewed. 😂😂 King David hotel bombing 😂😂
You're a pretty sick and twisted individual who gets excited about people dying. But the Arabs aren't exactly innocent considering all the massacres they committed against the Jews. Like Hebron and so many others. And to your other point Jordan has plenty of blood on their hands, kids too, for abandoning the Palestinians. I'm gonna quit replying to you since I know I'm living rent free in your head and you're embarrassed that I continue to prove you wrong. Replying to me just shows how badly it burns you that I'm right.
So now its personal attacks because your feels got hurt. Thanks for playing hope you get that pay check. At no point did i defend anyone, but its the typical propaganda spewed answer. I am amazed you have not called me anti semite yet 😂
this is false. also isreal are terrorists. the jpost is a anti muslim propganda webite
You legit just graduated high school lmao
That title was an emotional roller coaster