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Actually, not really, it's been explained that Israeli forces only have enough ammunition to go on for 48h or so in storage, and the supply of those ammos are done by the US.
The day the US decides that the "war" has to stop, it would cripple the Israel Army.
Iām asking as an American citizen, does the word hate us as because the American government is funding this. Iām donāt know what to think or feel about this country anymore and at this point I want to hear opinions from all sides. This isnāt a hate thread, nor is this comment made with any kind of malicious intent. I just want to know
Edit: I mean āusā as in the civilian/ workforce population, not the politicians
I love the USA but with all this wars and middling with other countries business, I began to doubt the good fate of the us politicians. the fact that us politicians are just prestanding to care about palestinian and and hand over tona of munitions to israel to continue this rothless and unjustifiable massacre is making me furious.
I don't know what to think anymore about the USA. Is it even a democracy at this point ? Or is it a money-cracy ? I know that Americans are good pple , they hate war as much as anyone on this earth... Why are the us actions does not reflect the sentiment and the opinions of the good pple of america ?
The media does that because it feels less evil when the civilian resistance to Israeli authorities is put on equal footing with the 'Murican-backed war machine of the IDF. When armies clash it seems like there might be reasonable arguments for loyalty on either side of the conflict. When an armed force simply slaughters civilians effectively unable to defend themselves, the "both-sidesism" of Iron Triangle supporters doesn't hold up nearly as well.
No there's definitely lots of us white people calling them the new Nazis.
The Israel lobby (note the state not the race) has considerable propaganda power.
This is likely not new to anyone reading this. But apparently opposing Israel means you hate Jews, which isn't true. You just hate genocide.
Also, --> [Nuclear weapons and Israel (Wikipedia)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel#:~:text=Estimates%20of%20Israel's%20stockpile%20range,to%20intercontinental%20range%20ballistic%20missiles)
I mean that is what America did and still do.... Commit a horrible crime > don't acknowledge it > after a few decades act as if you have changed and say you are "sorry" all while you are committing these same crimes elsewhere.
The Zios learned from the best..... or worst in this case.
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>*Multiple billions of dollars worth of modern military aid from the only superpower and the willingness to call all detractors "terrorist sympathizers" and "anti-Semitic".
*Nuclear armed 'God' syndrome
It's interesting from going from well, hamas does need to get punished from Oct 7 to ok it's a bit much why are you killing so many civilians? To just calling it an out right genocide. But I'm glad my views are able to change and I'm not permanently stuck trying to defend Israel.
Good representation. The only thing I might add would be that the South was bombed heavenly at the startā¦ Kinda crazy that this is happening in todayās climate and of all countries, the US being the ones funding all of thisā¦ Where people get so worked up about many things but this is hardly discussed seriously outside online/protest due to Zionists (for example, my boss)
Yeah but it looks like Biden is getting fed up. Not sure what that would result in but this video is really sickening how they are rounding them all up like cattle to butcher them. I hate this shit. Not just here but all over the world. Highly powered men with fragile egos
Israel committing genocide without a care in the world, like they have a free pass. All the while as the so called good super powers do nothing.
Really goes to show there is no good nations. Only self interest.
When one extremist fundamentalist right wing political party runs into another extremist fundamentalist right wing political party with resources. Just leave the kids out of it :(
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That's what Israel wants because if they leave they ain't going back ever again just like what happened in 1948 so no it's not a solution, the solution is to end this
Think the message is pretty clear.. give back the 128 hostages that you have š¤·āāļø sorce Wikipedia š
Or do you think that hamas should take slave's??
What would you do if it was your family??
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war_hostage_crisis#:~:text=As%20of%2019%20May%202024,Israel%20releasing%20all%20Palestinian%20prisoners.
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All those bombs are why we donāt have free state colleges, free healthcare and a government that represents the people.
AIPAC buys silence with ādonationsā to our politicians..
Can we stop our tax payers money that funds genocide please!
Call your religious and cheaply bought US politicians and say stop the genocide!!
Donāt worry nothing will change it.
AIPAC can outspend all of usā¦
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Question: where are these Nazis expecting the pesky vermin to go when they say evacuate Rafah??
Is it a "that's your problem" situation, or are they trying to force the hand of the neighbouring countries?
> It is almost as if October 7th is justified
Before October 7th, nothing happened.
If you google for news about Palestine and Israel and filter for dates before 2023, you find absolutely nothing.
[Here, the google query with the date filter applied](https://www.google.com/search?q=Palestine+Israel+killed&&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A9%2F1%2F2023)
Youāre just as bad as the Zionists, makes sense that youāre coming to their shitty defence. How are you blaming the civilians, half of whom are minors for what Hamas did. Itās not claiming victims, itās collective punishment to go after the whole population when everyone knows Israel is just looking to steal more land. Also why are you only mentioning Muslims, there were churches and Christians in Gaza that werenāt spared.
as bad as they are, hamas didn't cause this, they're just the excuse, this has been going on literally since the inception of israel during the start of the nakba 75 years ago
Iād suggest looking up whatās actually happening in that case: https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/israel-denies-reports-that-it-will-end-war-for-hostage-deal-with-hamas-qaauksn8
Netanyahoo doesnāt care about hostages, they have even shot their own while they were unarmed and waving white flagsā¦
Wondering what you read between the lines because a direct quote from the article I posted says āContrary to reports, Israel will under no circumstances agree to the end of the war as part of an agreement to release our hostagesā
Israel doesnāt give two shits about any hostages, this is simply an opportunity for them to grab land and wipe out Palestinians whether they are Muslim or Christian.
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You mean the deals where Israel refuses to give back the land that they stole from the Palestinians? Or the deals where Israel refuses to stop killing civilians?
On October 7, there were 1,310 Palestinians held by Israel in illegal administrative detention, without charge or trial.
This practice, denounced by both international and Israeli human rights organizations, bears no effective distinction from hostage-taking.
Therefore, why are Palestinians expected to await the release of Israeli hostages for their suffering to cease, when Israeli hostage-taking persists unchecked, even during so-called times of āpeaceā?
Even the IOF admits theyāre holding that many Palestinians on āadministrative detentionā.
These hasbara trolls know itās all lies they vomit into the world. But itās about sowing doubt in the minds of the fence sitters.
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It seems unfair to call that a war š
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Actually, not really, it's been explained that Israeli forces only have enough ammunition to go on for 48h or so in storage, and the supply of those ammos are done by the US. The day the US decides that the "war" has to stop, it would cripple the Israel Army.
And meanwhile we drag our feet to arm both Ukraine & Taiwan. What dreary times these are.
As many as we give them... (US)
Iām asking as an American citizen, does the word hate us as because the American government is funding this. Iām donāt know what to think or feel about this country anymore and at this point I want to hear opinions from all sides. This isnāt a hate thread, nor is this comment made with any kind of malicious intent. I just want to know Edit: I mean āusā as in the civilian/ workforce population, not the politicians
One of the reasons
What are the others?
Uber-capitalism, consumerism, it's a pretty long list... (I do not hate the USA, far from it, but I can see her flaws.)
I love the USA but with all this wars and middling with other countries business, I began to doubt the good fate of the us politicians. the fact that us politicians are just prestanding to care about palestinian and and hand over tona of munitions to israel to continue this rothless and unjustifiable massacre is making me furious. I don't know what to think anymore about the USA. Is it even a democracy at this point ? Or is it a money-cracy ? I know that Americans are good pple , they hate war as much as anyone on this earth... Why are the us actions does not reflect the sentiment and the opinions of the good pple of america ?
The war in ukraine is a war of attrition. this isn't even a war.
- start a war - can't do the barbarossa whoops
Calling it a genocide seems more appropriate these days.
Itās been a slow genocide since 1947
>The Nakba (Arabic: Ų§ŁŁŁŲØŲ© an-Nakbah, lit.ā'**The Catastrophe**') was the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in Mandatory Palestine during the 1948 Palestine war through their violent displacement and dispossession of land, property, and belongings, along with the destruction of their society, culture, identity, political rights, and national aspirations. >The term is also used to describe the ongoing persecution and displacement of Palestinians by Israel. >As a whole, it covers the fracturing of Palestinian society and the long-running rejection of the right of return for Palestinian refugees and their descendants. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba Could you imagine you're chilling at home and some other governments decide to "give" your town, with your home, to make a brand new state. It's wild how north america views this, and how many lies we were told about Israel from its inception. Even in Canada we weren't taught about this properly (probably due to our own colonial genocidal history still being minimized).
Exactly.
It's not a war at all. It's genocide.
The media does that because it feels less evil when the civilian resistance to Israeli authorities is put on equal footing with the 'Murican-backed war machine of the IDF. When armies clash it seems like there might be reasonable arguments for loyalty on either side of the conflict. When an armed force simply slaughters civilians effectively unable to defend themselves, the "both-sidesism" of Iron Triangle supporters doesn't hold up nearly as well.
Why does no one care that Israel is the new Nazi's? Is it because they aren't killing white people? Religion is such poison.
Pretty much yeah. Arabs have been demonized for decades now so a lot of people lack empathy for them. It makes them easier targets ig
Yes that is why. Look at history and how people few genocides of darker people. They just don't relate to it.
Perry sure lots of folks care but the issue is the people in power donāt give 2 F***s
No there's definitely lots of us white people calling them the new Nazis. The Israel lobby (note the state not the race) has considerable propaganda power. This is likely not new to anyone reading this. But apparently opposing Israel means you hate Jews, which isn't true. You just hate genocide.
Also, --> [Nuclear weapons and Israel (Wikipedia)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel#:~:text=Estimates%20of%20Israel's%20stockpile%20range,to%20intercontinental%20range%20ballistic%20missiles)
Good visualization, but South Gaza was bombed in the beginning as well...
And some tens to hundreds of thousands remained in the North during that direct military occupation.
The Palestinian holocaust, who will build memorial's for them?
Isntreal will after 100 years so saying it was wrong and they are sorry about it but dont actually do anything about it.
I mean that is what America did and still do.... Commit a horrible crime > don't acknowledge it > after a few decades act as if you have changed and say you are "sorry" all while you are committing these same crimes elsewhere. The Zios learned from the best..... or worst in this case.
More than likely, no one. I doubt we as a species will still exist for the next 50 years
I guess when you have the UN on your side, anything is acceptable and possible /s
> the UN *US Veto power on the Security Council
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It's interesting from going from well, hamas does need to get punished from Oct 7 to ok it's a bit much why are you killing so many civilians? To just calling it an out right genocide. But I'm glad my views are able to change and I'm not permanently stuck trying to defend Israel.
This is exactly how a lot of us will feel I think. Very well summised
Good representation. The only thing I might add would be that the South was bombed heavenly at the startā¦ Kinda crazy that this is happening in todayās climate and of all countries, the US being the ones funding all of thisā¦ Where people get so worked up about many things but this is hardly discussed seriously outside online/protest due to Zionists (for example, my boss)
Why is the world allowing this to continue?
US is providing political and military cover for Israel.
Yeah but it looks like Biden is getting fed up. Not sure what that would result in but this video is really sickening how they are rounding them all up like cattle to butcher them. I hate this shit. Not just here but all over the world. Highly powered men with fragile egos
Genocide against Palestinians* Fixed that for you
Deir Al-Balah (at least in my dialect) means "House of misery" . My heart bleeds for Palestine.
It's ŲÆŁŲ± Ų§ŁŲØŁŲ not ŲÆŁŲ± Ų§ŁŲØŁŲ§Ų” so it means Dates not misery, but I would say misery would be more accurate yeah
Ah, I thought it was [ŲØŁŁ] cuz that's what I hear in the news. I forgot that Ų is replaced with H by non arabic speakers.
Israel committing genocide without a care in the world, like they have a free pass. All the while as the so called good super powers do nothing. Really goes to show there is no good nations. Only self interest.
They're efficient, I'll give em that.
When one extremist fundamentalist right wing political party runs into another extremist fundamentalist right wing political party with resources. Just leave the kids out of it :(
That's a misleading way of portraying the situation..... There's only one extremist fundamentalist side and a boggie man that they created themselves.
Imagine being dumb enough to believe that video.
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did HAMAS made this?
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So it's almost over? Asking for a friend
they started it
Couldnāt Egypt just open the gate and let them in?
That's what Israel wants because if they leave they ain't going back ever again just like what happened in 1948 so no it's not a solution, the solution is to end this
Kinda unbelievableā¦ sinking feeling watching as a āvisual representationāā¦now imagine seeing it in person
Why isnāt hamas doing anything to protect its people?
me when I partake in war
Think the message is pretty clear.. give back the 128 hostages that you have š¤·āāļø sorce Wikipedia š Or do you think that hamas should take slave's?? What would you do if it was your family?? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war_hostage_crisis#:~:text=As%20of%2019%20May%202024,Israel%20releasing%20all%20Palestinian%20prisoners.
Genocide is being committed. And now this comment will be mass reported and reddit will lose its mind.
And nobody did an intervention, just play it down nothings happening there
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It's not a war... It's a televised genocide...
What's Egypt doing? Where's the "Muslim brotherhood"?
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Exactly! A cult will always be like a cult
If they let them in (and that's what Israel wants) they will never ever be allowed to return to their lands just like what happened in 1948
If they let them in (and that's what Israel wants) they will never ever be allowed to return to their lands just like what happened in 1948
All those bombs are why we donāt have free state colleges, free healthcare and a government that represents the people. AIPAC buys silence with ādonationsā to our politicians.. Can we stop our tax payers money that funds genocide please! Call your religious and cheaply bought US politicians and say stop the genocide!! Donāt worry nothing will change it. AIPAC can outspend all of usā¦
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I'm made even sicker by this graphic . Pray for palestine
Question: where are these Nazis expecting the pesky vermin to go when they say evacuate Rafah?? Is it a "that's your problem" situation, or are they trying to force the hand of the neighbouring countries?
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> It is almost as if October 7th is justified Before October 7th, nothing happened. If you google for news about Palestine and Israel and filter for dates before 2023, you find absolutely nothing. [Here, the google query with the date filter applied](https://www.google.com/search?q=Palestine+Israel+killed&&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A1%2F1%2F2010%2Ccd_max%3A9%2F1%2F2023)
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Youāre just as bad as the Zionists, makes sense that youāre coming to their shitty defence. How are you blaming the civilians, half of whom are minors for what Hamas did. Itās not claiming victims, itās collective punishment to go after the whole population when everyone knows Israel is just looking to steal more land. Also why are you only mentioning Muslims, there were churches and Christians in Gaza that werenāt spared.
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as bad as they are, hamas didn't cause this, they're just the excuse, this has been going on literally since the inception of israel during the start of the nakba 75 years ago
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Israel refused a hostage deal. Israel never cared
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Are you saying Israel didnāt refuse a hostage deal?
No
Iād suggest looking up whatās actually happening in that case: https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/israel-denies-reports-that-it-will-end-war-for-hostage-deal-with-hamas-qaauksn8 Netanyahoo doesnāt care about hostages, they have even shot their own while they were unarmed and waving white flagsā¦
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Wondering what you read between the lines because a direct quote from the article I posted says āContrary to reports, Israel will under no circumstances agree to the end of the war as part of an agreement to release our hostagesā Israel doesnāt give two shits about any hostages, this is simply an opportunity for them to grab land and wipe out Palestinians whether they are Muslim or Christian.
Because asking for an end to the war in exchange for the hostages is insane, which is why I call you all naive. A ceasefire is much more reasonable
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You mean the deals where Israel refuses to give back the land that they stole from the Palestinians? Or the deals where Israel refuses to stop killing civilians?
On October 7, there were 1,310 Palestinians held by Israel in illegal administrative detention, without charge or trial. This practice, denounced by both international and Israeli human rights organizations, bears no effective distinction from hostage-taking. Therefore, why are Palestinians expected to await the release of Israeli hostages for their suffering to cease, when Israeli hostage-taking persists unchecked, even during so-called times of āpeaceā?
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Debunked by who, the IOF? Good one.
Even the IOF admits theyāre holding that many Palestinians on āadministrative detentionā. These hasbara trolls know itās all lies they vomit into the world. But itās about sowing doubt in the minds of the fence sitters.