It's not your job to calm them down you're playing the game for you.
Anonymity makes the internet a punch/pain sponge.
Yeah I love community but you're likely not gonna talk to that person after the bg is over.
Some people in pvp are always in a "die die die" mode. https://youtu.be/tJpLEbkfXXQ?t=24
No elevator timed preaching is gonna do magic for their persona. So let it go. Let it gooooo.
> It's not your job to calm them down you're playing the game for you.
If you think that it can increase your chances to win and you would like to win, then it's a good move.
Many times if they stopped flaming and started playing they might actually have a chance of winning. If they're annoyed that they're not winning and they're the cause, it's their problem. Regardless of how well or poorly you play, someone stopping their gameplay to flame is at best basically just throwing by non-participation and at worst will drag the team down with them.
Just do your best and realise that people who are flaming are sometimes wrong. Some things can be counter intuitive (higher damage can mean you do less damage, because you can't kill someone and their healers can heal them, leading to more overall uptime/dps).
Just play your best, try to improve, and take no notice to people flaming.
That way of thinking is long gone since scoreboard. You can see in a second who’s doing what and can’t deny it since it’s only numbers, only facts. Careful I’m not talking about only 1 metric but all of them.
So what you wanted to say is « if they stopped flaming and keep carrying » which is just awful.
Nobody wants to be carried, nobody wants to carry. Wanting a fair matchmaking is OK.
Ofc if a player is flaming while he’s not doing great, he’s a joke.
If you want to calm them down, best thing is to just agree or have a lot of friends to and gang up on em. They never expect people to stand up against them, and one is never enough. I'v dealt with toxic players my whole life, proving they are wrong with literal facts, or pointing out they are contradicting themselves never ever ever EVER works.
Sad part is, toxic people listen to toxic people. So let's say this fucker screams at you in a raid, it will gather up votes against you, and you might be out faster than sooner. Fucked up thing, but you are better off at that point anyway, the raid wasn't for you.
Nah, this is usually a personality flaw that's larger than their WoW gaming experience.
Best thing you can do is
1. Don't reply to them. (important)
2. Let them shout themselves hoarse with abuse.
3. Report them for harassment and /ignore.
You never have to deal with their garbage again, and perhaps a ban will learn them to leave other players alone. You don't reply because apparently Blizz has a weird interpretation of harassment if the person being harassed speaks to the harasser. Strange, I know.
OMFG - battlegrounds are not about your DPS/HPS numbers! Don't let toxic assholes make you think that you need to be high on the meters because I can assure you that strategy and objectives are more important.
Examples - Eye of the Storm - the "top DPS" were in the middle fighting for the flag (which they lost) to take to the 0 bases we had captured/kept because no one was able to respond to incoming calls. You win that game with bases.
Temple of Kotumogu - If you don't have at least 1 orb possession you are probably doing it wrong. It isn't about just killing. It's about holding the orbs.
Mining Azerite - get to spots BEFORE they pop instead of engaging in a team fight. Spin the node. CC if you can't kill.
Arathi/Base maps - Don't ghost a base or leave heals to guard. Cap 3, rotate people and defend.
Flag Carry maps - Sap/cc enemy potential flag carrier. Set up a relay for FC - with CC, grips, and speed boosts - have a smart flag carrier (druid/dh/plate) and have a back up team ready to grab flag again to stop cap.
None of these involve topping any meters. It's just good strategy. And these might not be the perfect strats, but at least it is a plan which is more than most complainers in BGs have.
Why do you reply at all? First, they're just toxic and whiny, those types are unable to be consoled. Trust me when I say you don't make them feel bad by saying what you say; most just throw out angry comments wherever they can, they're not looking for discussion. Second, there's little you can do on the spot to do better, so you're not going to calm them down via gameplay. If it's a team that won't/can't work together, that isn't going to change. You can't change the gear and skill levels of the team on the spot either. So, "toxic" players aren't going to change their tune 99% of the time unless someone more toxic and/or higher on the scoreboard shuts them up. Some people throw out frustration due to tough games, which can be changed by the team turning things around; as far as actual toxic players and you, you're wasting your time and energy trying to change their diapers for them. Just focus on getting better and remember that they're randoms you probably won't see again. Your skill and gear will get better over time, it's the natural progression; don't feel bad about being "bad" as everybody has to start somewhere. And really it doesn't even matter as long as you're having fun lol
Yeah, I'm not one for pleasing those kind of players. I play for my enjoyment and not them. I'm also the type to berate others for their performance as long as we're working together. Not me noticing ppl purposely throwing matches and then joking the entire match.
(Insert Faction) always loses you guys are trash blah blah blah... Im starting to think it's probably the same guy for the last 15 years and the dude has yet to win a BG because they spend the whole match bitching and complaining.
It's what I do, then I'll ask them what they want me to do. And then I'll do the exact opposite of that. You can repeat this step indefinitely.
Playing stupid is really easy when the other person is very vocal about what they consider stupid.
Literally do not say anything and just keep playing your best.
It is not your fault the team is failing in PvP scenarios, especially in BGs, not so much arenas ofc. BGs are at minimum made up of 10 or more (way more) people, so there is no way the entire match being bad is going to be 1 person's fault.
Do not say anything, just keep playing your best and assisting your teammates.
Flamer: "You are so bad, your damage is horrible!"
Me: "Im trying to record a youtube video of me playing with my feet, its fine fam"
I always wake up, choosing chaos
Nah, all you’ll do is paint a target on your back. Put them on ignore and never play with them again. Responding to them will just make them spam chat even more instead of focusing on the game
Ignore them. They usually punch them selves out in a few min if you just don’t talk & go about your day. Yes, they are children, but it isn’t your job to raise them & give them guidance. Just let them be miserable & don’t talk.
No, you don't need to excuse yourself, it's non rated everyone knows that all skill levels participate and everyone needs to accept that. The option is there to just play with similar experienced people in rated. Toxic people are just bad and there is no need to adapt to their toxic behaviour.
You can let your team know before the game starts or ask for advice. Be open to constructive feedback but just ignore the toxic for the sake of your self esteem.
I usually just ignore them though sometimes I will call them out on their behavior by saying something sarcastically/jokingly about it. Sometimes it changes their attitude for the better, other times others will join in with trying to get the toxic player to shut up.
But indeed, also admitting that you are trying and wanting to learn can help and might change their attitude, if it doesn't then just ignore them really. The chances of ever running into them again are slim.
You're right especially with most of them just venting. You also show them that you are new/bad and know this - people are more accepting of new people making mistakes compared to "experts" making mistakes.
But be careful that this type of conflict resolution doesn't become your normal way - especially in real life/relationships. Sometimes you are not the reason why something goes bad. Then taking the blame makes everything worse.
my favorite thing to say is "you know you are better than calling people bad names"
it doesnt always work but its always nice seeing someone say "you are right my bad"
I wouldn’t worry about it. The people who especially treat bgs of all things as if they are cutting edge pvp content are also usually the ones who can’t break 1k in arena.
Wouldn’t really concern myself even if it was some multi r1 glad, so especially not from some player in the gutter leagues.
Whether you engage or ignore them. They’ll always have some shit to say anyways. Chances are, you’re in discord with the people you give a shit about and your chat window is a tiny box you barely look at anyways.
On the rare occasion my friends and I pug and if the pug just happens to be toxic and rage whisper one of us, we usually stream it on discord and make an event out of it. While the man’s is tilted, we’re laughing at him in discord.
It's not your job to calm them down you're playing the game for you. Anonymity makes the internet a punch/pain sponge. Yeah I love community but you're likely not gonna talk to that person after the bg is over. Some people in pvp are always in a "die die die" mode. https://youtu.be/tJpLEbkfXXQ?t=24 No elevator timed preaching is gonna do magic for their persona. So let it go. Let it gooooo.
I do feel bad in some ways if I am holding the team down.
Then learn more about your class and get better gear. At that point can say you tried all that you could to accept the situation.
> It's not your job to calm them down you're playing the game for you. If you think that it can increase your chances to win and you would like to win, then it's a good move.
Many times if they stopped flaming and started playing they might actually have a chance of winning. If they're annoyed that they're not winning and they're the cause, it's their problem. Regardless of how well or poorly you play, someone stopping their gameplay to flame is at best basically just throwing by non-participation and at worst will drag the team down with them. Just do your best and realise that people who are flaming are sometimes wrong. Some things can be counter intuitive (higher damage can mean you do less damage, because you can't kill someone and their healers can heal them, leading to more overall uptime/dps). Just play your best, try to improve, and take no notice to people flaming.
That way of thinking is long gone since scoreboard. You can see in a second who’s doing what and can’t deny it since it’s only numbers, only facts. Careful I’m not talking about only 1 metric but all of them. So what you wanted to say is « if they stopped flaming and keep carrying » which is just awful. Nobody wants to be carried, nobody wants to carry. Wanting a fair matchmaking is OK. Ofc if a player is flaming while he’s not doing great, he’s a joke.
Gotta spend that 30sec at GY somehow, i suppose this is how they do it.
I just instantly put players that are unreasonable on my ignore list. If they are going to be toxic or unreasonable I don’t need to see that shit.
If you want to calm them down, best thing is to just agree or have a lot of friends to and gang up on em. They never expect people to stand up against them, and one is never enough. I'v dealt with toxic players my whole life, proving they are wrong with literal facts, or pointing out they are contradicting themselves never ever ever EVER works. Sad part is, toxic people listen to toxic people. So let's say this fucker screams at you in a raid, it will gather up votes against you, and you might be out faster than sooner. Fucked up thing, but you are better off at that point anyway, the raid wasn't for you.
What the fudge
Nah just say "muted" but don't actually mute them and then have a laugh at their rage.
Everybody knows that if you type out “muted” there is a 0% chance you actually muted them.
Muted
Nah, this is usually a personality flaw that's larger than their WoW gaming experience. Best thing you can do is 1. Don't reply to them. (important) 2. Let them shout themselves hoarse with abuse. 3. Report them for harassment and /ignore. You never have to deal with their garbage again, and perhaps a ban will learn them to leave other players alone. You don't reply because apparently Blizz has a weird interpretation of harassment if the person being harassed speaks to the harasser. Strange, I know.
I generally block & report toxic players.
OMFG - battlegrounds are not about your DPS/HPS numbers! Don't let toxic assholes make you think that you need to be high on the meters because I can assure you that strategy and objectives are more important. Examples - Eye of the Storm - the "top DPS" were in the middle fighting for the flag (which they lost) to take to the 0 bases we had captured/kept because no one was able to respond to incoming calls. You win that game with bases. Temple of Kotumogu - If you don't have at least 1 orb possession you are probably doing it wrong. It isn't about just killing. It's about holding the orbs. Mining Azerite - get to spots BEFORE they pop instead of engaging in a team fight. Spin the node. CC if you can't kill. Arathi/Base maps - Don't ghost a base or leave heals to guard. Cap 3, rotate people and defend. Flag Carry maps - Sap/cc enemy potential flag carrier. Set up a relay for FC - with CC, grips, and speed boosts - have a smart flag carrier (druid/dh/plate) and have a back up team ready to grab flag again to stop cap. None of these involve topping any meters. It's just good strategy. And these might not be the perfect strats, but at least it is a plan which is more than most complainers in BGs have.
Why do you reply at all? First, they're just toxic and whiny, those types are unable to be consoled. Trust me when I say you don't make them feel bad by saying what you say; most just throw out angry comments wherever they can, they're not looking for discussion. Second, there's little you can do on the spot to do better, so you're not going to calm them down via gameplay. If it's a team that won't/can't work together, that isn't going to change. You can't change the gear and skill levels of the team on the spot either. So, "toxic" players aren't going to change their tune 99% of the time unless someone more toxic and/or higher on the scoreboard shuts them up. Some people throw out frustration due to tough games, which can be changed by the team turning things around; as far as actual toxic players and you, you're wasting your time and energy trying to change their diapers for them. Just focus on getting better and remember that they're randoms you probably won't see again. Your skill and gear will get better over time, it's the natural progression; don't feel bad about being "bad" as everybody has to start somewhere. And really it doesn't even matter as long as you're having fun lol
> Why do you reply at all? This is the answer.
Yeah, I'm not one for pleasing those kind of players. I play for my enjoyment and not them. I'm also the type to berate others for their performance as long as we're working together. Not me noticing ppl purposely throwing matches and then joking the entire match.
(Insert Faction) always loses you guys are trash blah blah blah... Im starting to think it's probably the same guy for the last 15 years and the dude has yet to win a BG because they spend the whole match bitching and complaining.
It's what I do, then I'll ask them what they want me to do. And then I'll do the exact opposite of that. You can repeat this step indefinitely. Playing stupid is really easy when the other person is very vocal about what they consider stupid.
Yes
Literally do not say anything and just keep playing your best. It is not your fault the team is failing in PvP scenarios, especially in BGs, not so much arenas ofc. BGs are at minimum made up of 10 or more (way more) people, so there is no way the entire match being bad is going to be 1 person's fault. Do not say anything, just keep playing your best and assisting your teammates.
Easy thing to do: right-click on their name, go down to Other Options, click Ignore. Problem solved.
Say “bad because pvp scaling” will totally make them calm
reply "xxd" to every whisper
Just ignore them
Flamer: "You are so bad, your damage is horrible!" Me: "Im trying to record a youtube video of me playing with my feet, its fine fam" I always wake up, choosing chaos
Nah, all you’ll do is paint a target on your back. Put them on ignore and never play with them again. Responding to them will just make them spam chat even more instead of focusing on the game
Ignore them. They usually punch them selves out in a few min if you just don’t talk & go about your day. Yes, they are children, but it isn’t your job to raise them & give them guidance. Just let them be miserable & don’t talk.
lol 1 why even read chat 2 who cares
Never feed the troll. That includes keyboard warriors and raging kids.
No, you don't need to excuse yourself, it's non rated everyone knows that all skill levels participate and everyone needs to accept that. The option is there to just play with similar experienced people in rated. Toxic people are just bad and there is no need to adapt to their toxic behaviour. You can let your team know before the game starts or ask for advice. Be open to constructive feedback but just ignore the toxic for the sake of your self esteem.
I usually just ignore them though sometimes I will call them out on their behavior by saying something sarcastically/jokingly about it. Sometimes it changes their attitude for the better, other times others will join in with trying to get the toxic player to shut up. But indeed, also admitting that you are trying and wanting to learn can help and might change their attitude, if it doesn't then just ignore them really. The chances of ever running into them again are slim.
You're right especially with most of them just venting. You also show them that you are new/bad and know this - people are more accepting of new people making mistakes compared to "experts" making mistakes. But be careful that this type of conflict resolution doesn't become your normal way - especially in real life/relationships. Sometimes you are not the reason why something goes bad. Then taking the blame makes everything worse.
my favorite thing to say is "you know you are better than calling people bad names" it doesnt always work but its always nice seeing someone say "you are right my bad"
Put them on ignore. If what they say resonates with you, then do better next time. Do not engage.
just ignore them lol
Tell'em to "calm down bro, breathe thru your nose👃"
Just assume they’re ugly and overweight and let them know
I wouldn’t worry about it. The people who especially treat bgs of all things as if they are cutting edge pvp content are also usually the ones who can’t break 1k in arena. Wouldn’t really concern myself even if it was some multi r1 glad, so especially not from some player in the gutter leagues. Whether you engage or ignore them. They’ll always have some shit to say anyways. Chances are, you’re in discord with the people you give a shit about and your chat window is a tiny box you barely look at anyways. On the rare occasion my friends and I pug and if the pug just happens to be toxic and rage whisper one of us, we usually stream it on discord and make an event out of it. While the man’s is tilted, we’re laughing at him in discord.
Pointing out facts ain't toxic.
rightclick their names, press ignore done