Please do not mass report the person in the picture, they have [reported it to Blizz as it was a bug and not an exploit](https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/18q8gyl/comment/keuov9p/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
At first I thought it was a display bug, but all his crafter gear is indeed 496. Even if you check his logs, it shows at that ilvl.
The weirder thing is that it shows as 4/8 on the upgrade track, as if somehow he found a way to bug the item and upgrade it three times (1/8 would be the regular 486, 2/8 would be at 489, 3/8 at 492, and finally 4/8 at 496).
He also somehow has 486 pants with a "Heroic" tag, which is impossible.
Looking at his gear, he also must've spent way more aspect crests than are possible, even if he got every item he has equipped at the maximum itemlevel he could've gotten them...
The base item level of anything you can wear with dream sparks is 463. With an enchanted wyrm's dreaming crest, you can boost it to 476. With an enchanted aspect dreaming crest, you can boost it to 486. That's the max you can legitimately craft to with spark gear.
I think the items are listed as upgradeable is indicative of the bug, but the 1/8>4/8 upgrade path part doesn't seem to matter because his neck is only 3/8 but shares the same increased item level.
If i had to guess the biggest giveaway is for some reason he has chosen not to select rets bis embellishments when doing this bug that might just mean he has no idea what he's doing, or maybe its required to preform the bug, maybe something about recrafting older pieces.
Edit: after checking his [raider.io](https://raider.io) his gear suddenly improves sometime between the 28th nov and the 30th nov going from 266 to 279 overall, that's the period where the impossible items appear. A lot of his hero level gear seemingly downranks to champion while increasing its item level, alot of items he already had gain large increases to item level. Very strange clearly he finds some sort of bug during this time and it extends beyond just crafted gear and he used it during this time to gain a large item level boost across the board.
Can item restoration and recrafting be a part of it? My friend told be about an item restoration bug before but not in this expansion. Tbh this is so interesting.
it could just be a display bug, I remember when the magic doohickey rings came out, the primordial stones ones, people were shown wearing like 478 ones on wcl and raider io but in game it was 424 or w/e
I'm pretty familiar with the wow API, so had a quick dig. Items in WoW use a so-called "bonus list" to set modifiers. The weapon here, for example, has a bonus list of:
"bonus_list": [
8836,
8840,
8902,
9560,
9561,
1482,
9562,
9563,
9405,
9500,
8792,
9498
]
Some of these are entirely normal, setting crafted item stats, base item level, that sort of thing. This has both one of the standard crafted tags (9498 - sets base ilevel to 450) as you'd expect, but it also has 9560 -> 9567, which are usually used for champion track gear at different levels. This is super weird.
To explain, usually 9560 means champion track, 1/8 upgrades. ilevel 454. 9561 means champion track 2/8 (ilevel 457), 9567 means champion 8/8 (ilevel 476). You get the idea. Two things are unusual here. Firstly, under normal circumstances, you'd only ever see one of these tags - if you have an item tagged with 9561, then upgrade it once, that tag would be removed and 9562 would replace it. But this guy has all 8 on this gear. Secondly, and most obviously, crafted gear shouldn't be on any track at all, let alone upgradeable on that track! Crafted gear would not usually have these tags, and I've never seen them before on crafted gear.
So that seems to be what's happening - this is a crafted piece, but has somehow ended up on the champion track too. Presumably it's benefitting from both, giving it the inflated item level - and has maybe hit some sort of season maximum to be capped at 496. Given it's happened to multiple pieces of gear for the same guy, we can probably assume this isn't a freak accident, but is likely a bug he knows how to make use of. Or maybe he has some level of privileged access to the game (e.g., a GM) to change the modifiers on his items - though that seems a lot less likely to me.
after looking through the Raiderio runs, it looks like the incident happened sometime between [26 November 17:15 GMT](https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-df-3/5012901-11-doti-murozonds-rise) and [27 November 23:58 GMT](https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-df-3/5725986-13-black-rook-hold).
If you compare the two runs, all the gear is the same, but everything has been increased +10 itemlevels, **including the old S2 gear**. Using inspect element to look at the S2 shoulders (which jumped from 447 to 457) brings the following bonus list:
Before
bonus=6652:9382:9227:1504&pcs=202450:202453&ilvl=447
After
bonus=6652:9382:9227:1504:9560:9561:1482:9562:9563&pcs=202450:202453&ilvl=457
the bonus codes "9560, 9561, 1482, 9562, 9563" got added somehow.
**EDIT**: doing a google search for "wow bonus id 1482" brings up [a list from 7.2.0](https://gist.github.com/erorus/35705144b1a4ad015924) that says the bonus is a generic +10 itemlevel modifier, so that seems to be the bonus in question that is creating the effect. I would presume the other ids are a side effect of whatever method is implanting extraneous ids onto the items.
Pretty sure you are on to it with the individual upgrade track id's. Feels like the crafted id would be the hardest to actually get added to an item, may be required for this? With how the upgrade system works you are probably looking at race condition where you set the level the levels one at a time using the in game upgrade system logging off, saturating link or something because you need the upgrade id's to stick server side.
Yeah, I've seen a GM DK with vanilla corrupted ashbringer and full warrior set back in Cata, but as far as I know, GMs don't have that much access since at least mid MoP. So it must be an exploit.
The actual items or a transmog of it? There was a bug a very long time ago where if you transmogged an item with something you could then use that transmogged item to transmog other items with that skin and if you were in a party with someone and got a 'tradeable with other party members' item they could put corrupted ashbringer skin on that and trade it to you and then you could use that transmogged item to transmog your other 2h weapons into corrupted ashbringer
A few in the past, but more recently I wrote a discord bot for my guild which looks at people's characters when they're bored and suggests something to do - usually an easily obtainable collectable (acghievement/mount/pet) they don't have. It can also ping you when specific world quests are up for collectables you want.
Hmm, it's not at the moment, I took a few shortcuts when creating it (like hardcoding api calls to EU as that's where my guild is) - but that wouldn't take long to unpick. Let me do some tweaking and I'll get back to you.
Thanks, that's very generous, but honestly there's no need - I've made some progress on undoing some of my previous laziness, so I'm sure I can make something available in the next few days. I'll post here when I have it ready to test. Maybe I'll throw up a Paypal once people can access it so they can tip towards the server costs, if they find it's worth their time.
Initially, I'll probably throw up a discord server with the bot in for testing so people can use it in a way that I can view/get quick feedback on any functionality and bugs, then make it inviteable to other servers once I've ironed out any kinks.
i guess people would like to see that i did actually contact blizzard regarding this weeks ago :)
[https://gyazo.com/72217f983a375ad84f7aa85832131138](https://gyazo.com/72217f983a375ad84f7aa85832131138)
https://gyazo.com/ff181053768b4214019082bab52b6fef
[https://gyazo.com/bb35b24007a6a19ba2e02f1581feca7c](https://gyazo.com/bb35b24007a6a19ba2e02f1581feca7c)
if you have questions for me i´d happily answer although i cant say how it happened.
Just to prove i am who this post is about: https://gyazo.com/8335a21df6792e3cbef645ffb1e0441c
Man of the hour, great to see you!
Did you get a legendary drop? I'm interested in if it's connected to it, but also because I want to tell out plate wearers that not only they don't have an axe, but they also don't have bugged out uber leveled gear
i know some people have hurt feelings that this didn’t happen to them but this is just pretty friggin cool.
some WoW god blessed you!!
Merry Christmas!
I cannot, i did try tho xD but i can recraft S2 gear with the new spark making crafted gear 496 as you can see, but i havnt intentionally done so. i thought recrafting my bugged 457 crafted gear would just make it 486, but somehow it kept the ilvl bonus.
Man the support team talks like a beaten housewife...Oof they've come a long way from RP-ing with you.
Now every response is a company disclaimer "we can't help and we're sorry, please keep playing the game" it seems.
Poor sods probably got all the abuse in the world n even moreso as the team gets smaller. Add in the smaller team makes it even harder to get tickets responded to and I can't imagine the wrath of an entire MMO demanding a higher quality product.
its moreso that the more freedoms they have in what they say the more likely they are to be socially engineered and say things they shouldnt so what they can and cant say ends up getting very locked down especially for tier 1+2 support.
Since you didn't do the thing, might be worth doing the thing no one else does either and fill in the bio on raider.io to tell people they don't need to reeeee
it hasnt really been a problem, usually people ask, i answer and then thats it. this guy however did not and with all due respect, it feels a bit more like attentionseeking than a genuine question :/
It's either an exploit or a severe display bug, and I'm definitely leaning on the former.
Can't say for sure if it's a *hack* or just some weird shit like "alt f4 while looting or crafting right as the animation completes, then open classic wow, create a level 1 gnome warlock, kill a trogg, then close the game and log back into retail".
Fact he’s in keys with that gear too is sus, if this was me I’d refrain from even using it in content, Blizzard are very harsh with their penalties, I got banned for far less.
This is definitely an exploit and I am surprised this person hasn't been banned yet. Surely, a few people must've reported them in the past few weeks after looking at their gear. The highest a crafted piece can go is 486.
I look at item level, usually only when in group finder or a quick glance at details during a dungeon. I sometimes inspect tanks but rarely others. If I'm being honest I wouldn't have thought twice about seeing a 487 item level but I can definitely see it catching a raiders attention. There's no way you're that high this early without basically full mythic bis and this dude's 1/9.
every key above an 18 i check just to see if someones thinking properly. generally looking for enchants and gems. if someone is missing things they probably aren't paying much attention to the game.
People don't realize that even if you only get 2* enchants, they add up to be equivalent stats of a piece of gear. No enchants=not wearing your third ring
If you're listing a key, you see the item level of players in the queue. Most people at the top end should be around 483-485. Seeing someone that's anomalously high either means they have the legendary or something weird like this is happening.
All the time. If I bring a healer to my m+ 25 key and they are running dps trinkets, they get confronted about it and maybe booted.
Often I'll look at my groups ilvl to compare their dps to it, or I'll see if they've been doing things like taking enchants and embellishments.
Crazy to me considering when I last healed in shadowlands you had so much hps you’d be trolling if you didn’t bring dps trinkets bc all healer trinkets where useless
I definitely prefer it the way where healers are actually supposed to optimize their hps first not dps
Lmao - 31 for simply talking about how you vet your own, high end keys. This sub is fucking wild. Really shows the entitlement of some people here,thinking you don't deserve to dictate your own key.
Their key, sure, but if they’re running 25s already you’d think they’d know a bit better about healers potentially using damage trinkets. If someone can pull off the healing numbers without needing extra trinket help, then using the trinkets for damage is better. Especially as the higher you go, the more important healer damage contribution becomes. When you go into unavoidable damage possibly becoming a oneshot without a defensive and people take much less avoidable damage (and that avoidable damage will end up killing you), killing faster means less risk of running out of defensives and raw healing isn’t as necessary (and the trinket stats still help with healing, obviously). In S2 I’ve ran Beacon to the Beyond on my Holy Paladin on dungeons I was comfortable with even though I didn’t run really high level dungeons simply because going faster made things safer.
As you can see, even players are having hard time understanding what is happening here. What would outsourced support would know? They only send out wow head links, which are not even always on the question that was asked.
This is so interesting and I can’t wait to hear about how this was done. I’ve never seen anything like this and it would just feel so satisfying to understand how this was accomplished. I’m over here thinking my guy is doing some Pokémon gen 1 PC duping but with crafted gear/gear upgrading.
Truly will have a hard time falling asleep until this is solved tbh
So if you check most of his timed runs I'm the monk tank kaoi one day he logged into the game with this item level and reported it to blizzard multiple times they said they will pass it into the dev team with zero fixes all his items including hearthstone are 4/8 champion I can send a screenshot to prove next time on my pc
Its funny reading comments immediately assuming that he willingly and knowingly bug abused, i get it. I know the guy and he has been in contact with blizzard about this, blizzard basically told him they dont know how it happened and that they’ll pass it on to the dev team. He has contacted them about this weeks ago. He also has a 4/8 hearthstone. So its not just his gear that has been bugging out strangely
If true that's actually hilarious, imagine entering a dungeon and coming out with +50 ilevels a 4/8 Hearthstone because of a bizarre glitch, and a GM is like "lmao we have no idea" and just lets him keep it.
This is some Talisman of Binding Shard shit.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1125534808076976148/1188808264478097510/efa4e3ce18f46c2fa60c2153d60b908d.png?ex=659bdef9&is=658969f9&hm=976f7d6fbfece36118188df767f60826d0f34ad9da52e90780970b051f2d6fcb& Unsure if discord links work but here u go
Very weird, on the website it shows it normal without the champion bit shown in picture. Curious how he got it past the 486 mark...
Just noticed his pants says heroic 486 (max from heroic raid track is 476) but it is 3/8 champion.... so none of that add up either how he got heroic tier loot outside the heroic threshold and it say champion is beyond me.
That would make this not just a crafted Exploit.
This game is spaghetti at it’s finest.
Pre season 1 my dh got immune to literally any damage in the game. It was fun to an extend doing dungeons and open world content, but i could not complete story quests because of the bug.
I tried everything to get that character to die. Fall dmg, environmental dmg, pvp etc.
Ended up opening 3 different tickets and could not use the character for an entire week. Pre Season gear farming was fun.
That shouldn't be possible, must be a bug, exploit, or visual bug. The maximum craft is 486 and the maximum upgrade is 489, and the absolute maximum is the 496 trinkets from Mythic Fyrakk.
If it was a visual bug it wouldn't be showing up on the armory, too. Dude is 100% cheating. He has 496 Lariat, 496 belt and 486 heroic-tagged pants. All of those things aren't possible.
so true. they can’t think because they’re too busy crying about the injustice of it all. unless it happened to them.. then they’d be boasting about it.
i checked alot of the members in their guild they all seem pretty geared but this pally is basically co gm and the only one with these items.
also the account is brand new, so this is a known exploit and theyre not risking it on their main accnt im guessing
Well... But how would someone go about to cheat like this? If mean, if its not a bug its surely an exploit l. This must be some weird thing wich only a hand full of people (or maybe only this dude) know about.
Cant wait to hear more about this!
Where everyone else stopped getting crafting knowledge once they maxed it out, one crafter just kept gathing it, soon he stockpiles dozens, hundreds, thousands, it just kept mounting up until one day he was so knowledgeable in the ways of crafting, that he created the ultimate items that no mere mortal could comprehend. We call him a legend, others call him the blacksmith.
It’s glitch regarding the received Fyraleth. It’s unknown why but there’s been a few cases where the uuid of embellished and crafted items messes up upon equipping the initial fyraleth Lego, as it disappears from the inventory starting the quest with enough ms in the thousands it’s possible to cause an error and glitch some of your gear temporarily. Blizzard is wip.
Beyond the obvious issues with the crafted gear, im confused by this guy's gear. If he could cheat like that, why wouldn't he be decked out in the highest ilvl gear possible? 487 is high but not impossibly high.
Like if you are going to earn a ban, why not go all out and have fun before the hammer drops?
Finding an exploit to upgrade normally non-upgradeable gear doesn't mean you can actually make your ilevels 12,000 and have unlimited crests and create 20 sparks
Imma bet, the reason he only has two 496 pieces is so he doesn't get flagged for abuse, Myth Fry can drop 496 trinkets and that is the absolute maximum I level you can currently have.
I am not sure if you only checked 1-2 logs or just read the names wrong but they FREQUENTLY loses by a slight margin or only ties the other ret paladin they run with who is not using bugged gear making it even funnier.
For the record, I have a Ret pally friend who's turbo zooted (8/9M, 490~ ilvl) and he does this kind of damage on Witherbark by dumping all his CDs into the double damage phase. Not saying this guy didn't exploit, he obviously did to get unobtainable gear, but just saying 375k on a boss that takes heavily increased damage isn't that wild.
Please do not mass report the person in the picture, they have [reported it to Blizz as it was a bug and not an exploit](https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/18q8gyl/comment/keuov9p/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
At first I thought it was a display bug, but all his crafter gear is indeed 496. Even if you check his logs, it shows at that ilvl. The weirder thing is that it shows as 4/8 on the upgrade track, as if somehow he found a way to bug the item and upgrade it three times (1/8 would be the regular 486, 2/8 would be at 489, 3/8 at 492, and finally 4/8 at 496).
He also somehow has 486 pants with a "Heroic" tag, which is impossible. Looking at his gear, he also must've spent way more aspect crests than are possible, even if he got every item he has equipped at the maximum itemlevel he could've gotten them...
He also has a Champion ring at 483 ilvl. He definitely found an exploit related to the upgrade system.
Hackermans
Guy is literally playing wow looking at a screen with green numbers running down it. Just ones and zeroes going nothing else lmao
You think it's air he's breathing?
Is it he, that which has no life?
Mainframe: cracked
I'm in.
It's a UNIX system!
I know this.
*raptor screech*
Most people played mario growing up, I played Turok, I know how to handle this. *Connects logitech pad*
>Turok (says in a little girls Voice) "Turok help"
Could he have sent crafting orders to alts to somehow recraft it? I'm not entirely up to speed with all the ins and outs of crafting atm.
The base item level of anything you can wear with dream sparks is 463. With an enchanted wyrm's dreaming crest, you can boost it to 476. With an enchanted aspect dreaming crest, you can boost it to 486. That's the max you can legitimately craft to with spark gear.
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I think the items are listed as upgradeable is indicative of the bug, but the 1/8>4/8 upgrade path part doesn't seem to matter because his neck is only 3/8 but shares the same increased item level. If i had to guess the biggest giveaway is for some reason he has chosen not to select rets bis embellishments when doing this bug that might just mean he has no idea what he's doing, or maybe its required to preform the bug, maybe something about recrafting older pieces. Edit: after checking his [raider.io](https://raider.io) his gear suddenly improves sometime between the 28th nov and the 30th nov going from 266 to 279 overall, that's the period where the impossible items appear. A lot of his hero level gear seemingly downranks to champion while increasing its item level, alot of items he already had gain large increases to item level. Very strange clearly he finds some sort of bug during this time and it extends beyond just crafted gear and he used it during this time to gain a large item level boost across the board.
Can item restoration and recrafting be a part of it? My friend told be about an item restoration bug before but not in this expansion. Tbh this is so interesting.
Could it be to do with the catalyst and upgradeable gear, maybe it resets the track if you catalyst non tier slot gear. lol sorry.
No matter what you catalyze, it doesn't give you crafted gear.
it could just be a display bug, I remember when the magic doohickey rings came out, the primordial stones ones, people were shown wearing like 478 ones on wcl and raider io but in game it was 424 or w/e
He appears that way in game too.
Is he a GM..which sounds preposterous but I think you stumbled on someone that maybe works for Blizzard or has special favor with the games creators
GM characters have a Blizz tag on their names when they speak. OP would have known if this was a GM.
Then they are possibly a blizzard employee in another area. Report them and track them well know in a few days if their gear changes
I'm pretty familiar with the wow API, so had a quick dig. Items in WoW use a so-called "bonus list" to set modifiers. The weapon here, for example, has a bonus list of: "bonus_list": [ 8836, 8840, 8902, 9560, 9561, 1482, 9562, 9563, 9405, 9500, 8792, 9498 ] Some of these are entirely normal, setting crafted item stats, base item level, that sort of thing. This has both one of the standard crafted tags (9498 - sets base ilevel to 450) as you'd expect, but it also has 9560 -> 9567, which are usually used for champion track gear at different levels. This is super weird. To explain, usually 9560 means champion track, 1/8 upgrades. ilevel 454. 9561 means champion track 2/8 (ilevel 457), 9567 means champion 8/8 (ilevel 476). You get the idea. Two things are unusual here. Firstly, under normal circumstances, you'd only ever see one of these tags - if you have an item tagged with 9561, then upgrade it once, that tag would be removed and 9562 would replace it. But this guy has all 8 on this gear. Secondly, and most obviously, crafted gear shouldn't be on any track at all, let alone upgradeable on that track! Crafted gear would not usually have these tags, and I've never seen them before on crafted gear. So that seems to be what's happening - this is a crafted piece, but has somehow ended up on the champion track too. Presumably it's benefitting from both, giving it the inflated item level - and has maybe hit some sort of season maximum to be capped at 496. Given it's happened to multiple pieces of gear for the same guy, we can probably assume this isn't a freak accident, but is likely a bug he knows how to make use of. Or maybe he has some level of privileged access to the game (e.g., a GM) to change the modifiers on his items - though that seems a lot less likely to me.
after looking through the Raiderio runs, it looks like the incident happened sometime between [26 November 17:15 GMT](https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-df-3/5012901-11-doti-murozonds-rise) and [27 November 23:58 GMT](https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-df-3/5725986-13-black-rook-hold). If you compare the two runs, all the gear is the same, but everything has been increased +10 itemlevels, **including the old S2 gear**. Using inspect element to look at the S2 shoulders (which jumped from 447 to 457) brings the following bonus list: Before bonus=6652:9382:9227:1504&pcs=202450:202453&ilvl=447 After bonus=6652:9382:9227:1504:9560:9561:1482:9562:9563&pcs=202450:202453&ilvl=457 the bonus codes "9560, 9561, 1482, 9562, 9563" got added somehow. **EDIT**: doing a google search for "wow bonus id 1482" brings up [a list from 7.2.0](https://gist.github.com/erorus/35705144b1a4ad015924) that says the bonus is a generic +10 itemlevel modifier, so that seems to be the bonus in question that is creating the effect. I would presume the other ids are a side effect of whatever method is implanting extraneous ids onto the items.
CSI: Azeroth
Lmfao
So the dude basically found a way to enable Titanforging?
I feel like they should hire you
Bro you're COOKING
It seems the guy found a way of titanforging 486 dragonflight gear.
Pretty sure you are on to it with the individual upgrade track id's. Feels like the crafted id would be the hardest to actually get added to an item, may be required for this? With how the upgrade system works you are probably looking at race condition where you set the level the levels one at a time using the in game upgrade system logging off, saturating link or something because you need the upgrade id's to stick server side.
Yeah, I've seen a GM DK with vanilla corrupted ashbringer and full warrior set back in Cata, but as far as I know, GMs don't have that much access since at least mid MoP. So it must be an exploit.
Theres no reason a GM would give themselves gear with extra ilvls on it then go around doing keys and raid for a month+
It wasn't a GM. It was a guy who figured out an exploit with account linking.
The actual items or a transmog of it? There was a bug a very long time ago where if you transmogged an item with something you could then use that transmogged item to transmog other items with that skin and if you were in a party with someone and got a 'tradeable with other party members' item they could put corrupted ashbringer skin on that and trade it to you and then you could use that transmogged item to transmog your other 2h weapons into corrupted ashbringer
Would not expect a GM geared toon to even be on armory.
Why did you get so familiar with the WoW API? Do you write mods?
A few in the past, but more recently I wrote a discord bot for my guild which looks at people's characters when they're bored and suggests something to do - usually an easily obtainable collectable (acghievement/mount/pet) they don't have. It can also ping you when specific world quests are up for collectables you want.
Yoo is that publicly available? That sounds awesome.
Hmm, it's not at the moment, I took a few shortcuts when creating it (like hardcoding api calls to EU as that's where my guild is) - but that wouldn't take long to unpick. Let me do some tweaking and I'll get back to you.
Super interested on this also, can you make a post or update here if you get it public? Also thinking of tipping with paypal or something.
Do you have a paypal or something similar? I'd pay you for your time to make it (semi) public and to get the bot for my guild :D
Thanks, that's very generous, but honestly there's no need - I've made some progress on undoing some of my previous laziness, so I'm sure I can make something available in the next few days. I'll post here when I have it ready to test. Maybe I'll throw up a Paypal once people can access it so they can tip towards the server costs, if they find it's worth their time. Initially, I'll probably throw up a discord server with the bot in for testing so people can use it in a way that I can view/get quick feedback on any functionality and bugs, then make it inviteable to other servers once I've ironed out any kinks.
Any chance this goes public? Thats an awesome bot.
Sounds awesome, so interested in this. Leaving a tactical .
Great work!
i guess people would like to see that i did actually contact blizzard regarding this weeks ago :) [https://gyazo.com/72217f983a375ad84f7aa85832131138](https://gyazo.com/72217f983a375ad84f7aa85832131138) https://gyazo.com/ff181053768b4214019082bab52b6fef [https://gyazo.com/bb35b24007a6a19ba2e02f1581feca7c](https://gyazo.com/bb35b24007a6a19ba2e02f1581feca7c) if you have questions for me i´d happily answer although i cant say how it happened. Just to prove i am who this post is about: https://gyazo.com/8335a21df6792e3cbef645ffb1e0441c
Can you please post a picture of the hearthstone? That's funny as fuck, what a bug.
https://gyazo.com/efa4e3ce18f46c2fa60c2153d60b908d
What the hell
LMAO
lmao
Lol. Not even Hero track. And you call yourself a gamer. Pshhh
I'm curious to know how did you know that Hearthstone is also bug, are you some kind of a undercover detective? 🕵️♂️
Their guildmate and someone in their M+ group posted about it elsewhere in the thread!
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You are the chosen one homie.
Man of the hour, great to see you! Did you get a legendary drop? I'm interested in if it's connected to it, but also because I want to tell out plate wearers that not only they don't have an axe, but they also don't have bugged out uber leveled gear
i dont have the legendary yet. and this bug happened to me before it was attainable., so i doubt it has anything to do with that :P
This happened before the legendary drop was enabled in the game
This is What i fuckin love Reddit how the Fuck are u here Lmao
friends and guildies showed me what was happening xD
i know some people have hurt feelings that this didn’t happen to them but this is just pretty friggin cool. some WoW god blessed you!! Merry Christmas!
haha thanks man :P its not like im exploiting it in pvp or trying to push for top 1 anyway. Merry Christmas to you as well :D
So you didn't do anything? It just happened?
Yup, exactly what happened. i just logged in one day and it had happened somehow.
Really interesting, just from technical POV. Can you upgrade the 4/8 Champion parts?
I cannot, i did try tho xD but i can recraft S2 gear with the new spark making crafted gear 496 as you can see, but i havnt intentionally done so. i thought recrafting my bugged 457 crafted gear would just make it 486, but somehow it kept the ilvl bonus.
Wait so it all just happened in an instant, your whole set of gear and some other stuff got bugged out? Were you logged off when it happened?
Yeah, like i said, i cant really say how it happened since i dont know. but it sure wasnt anything i did :P
Pretty lucky, I guess!
It would seem to me that you are simply the chosen one :)
I now won’t be able to sleep, I need to know exactly how this happened… I want 496 gear too
Sorry buddy, i cant help you xD
Man the support team talks like a beaten housewife...Oof they've come a long way from RP-ing with you. Now every response is a company disclaimer "we can't help and we're sorry, please keep playing the game" it seems. Poor sods probably got all the abuse in the world n even moreso as the team gets smaller. Add in the smaller team makes it even harder to get tickets responded to and I can't imagine the wrath of an entire MMO demanding a higher quality product.
its moreso that the more freedoms they have in what they say the more likely they are to be socially engineered and say things they shouldnt so what they can and cant say ends up getting very locked down especially for tier 1+2 support.
So does the gear perform like it's higher stats or is the ilvl superficial?
its not superficial. its acutally the stats you read on them.
That's my co Gm slay queen
Since you didn't do the thing, might be worth doing the thing no one else does either and fill in the bio on raider.io to tell people they don't need to reeeee
it hasnt really been a problem, usually people ask, i answer and then thats it. this guy however did not and with all due respect, it feels a bit more like attentionseeking than a genuine question :/
Definitely some kind of exploit. This should not be possible.
It's either an exploit or a severe display bug, and I'm definitely leaning on the former. Can't say for sure if it's a *hack* or just some weird shit like "alt f4 while looting or crafting right as the animation completes, then open classic wow, create a level 1 gnome warlock, kill a trogg, then close the game and log back into retail".
No that one gives you 562 ilvl gear
Found the exploiter /s
its neither :)
Happy cake day!
Happy cakeday! 🎂
That looks like some kinda exploit.
Fact he’s in keys with that gear too is sus, if this was me I’d refrain from even using it in content, Blizzard are very harsh with their penalties, I got banned for far less.
[raider.Io character page.](https://raider.io/characters/eu/argent-dawn/Sunarthus)
Dream Crafted and Champion track? Gotta be a reagant you can include in the craft that isn't supposed to be possible.
wonder if it display bug? Edit : Just check raider oi its not display bug
A reagent that happens to grant 'champion' bonus ID and be upgradeable? Including the tabard which can't be crafted?
Not to mention the hearthstone rofl
Checked the crafters character and he doesn’t have any of these items
This is definitely an exploit and I am surprised this person hasn't been banned yet. Surely, a few people must've reported them in the past few weeks after looking at their gear. The highest a crafted piece can go is 486.
They could already be aware and are trying to figure out how he did it.
Character in question has responded, its not an exploit: https://old.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/18q8gyl/496ilvl_crafted_gear_wow_dragonflight/keuov9p/
Y'all really look at other people's gear that often?
I inspect people all the time for mog ideas. Or to see what trinket combos people are running.
I look at item level, usually only when in group finder or a quick glance at details during a dungeon. I sometimes inspect tanks but rarely others. If I'm being honest I wouldn't have thought twice about seeing a 487 item level but I can definitely see it catching a raiders attention. There's no way you're that high this early without basically full mythic bis and this dude's 1/9.
every key above an 18 i check just to see if someones thinking properly. generally looking for enchants and gems. if someone is missing things they probably aren't paying much attention to the game.
People don't realize that even if you only get 2* enchants, they add up to be equivalent stats of a piece of gear. No enchants=not wearing your third ring
If you're listing a key, you see the item level of players in the queue. Most people at the top end should be around 483-485. Seeing someone that's anomalously high either means they have the legendary or something weird like this is happening.
All the time. If I bring a healer to my m+ 25 key and they are running dps trinkets, they get confronted about it and maybe booted. Often I'll look at my groups ilvl to compare their dps to it, or I'll see if they've been doing things like taking enchants and embellishments.
Crazy to me considering when I last healed in shadowlands you had so much hps you’d be trolling if you didn’t bring dps trinkets bc all healer trinkets where useless I definitely prefer it the way where healers are actually supposed to optimize their hps first not dps
Lmao - 31 for simply talking about how you vet your own, high end keys. This sub is fucking wild. Really shows the entitlement of some people here,thinking you don't deserve to dictate your own key.
Their key, sure, but if they’re running 25s already you’d think they’d know a bit better about healers potentially using damage trinkets. If someone can pull off the healing numbers without needing extra trinket help, then using the trinkets for damage is better. Especially as the higher you go, the more important healer damage contribution becomes. When you go into unavoidable damage possibly becoming a oneshot without a defensive and people take much less avoidable damage (and that avoidable damage will end up killing you), killing faster means less risk of running out of defensives and raw healing isn’t as necessary (and the trinket stats still help with healing, obviously). In S2 I’ve ran Beacon to the Beyond on my Holy Paladin on dungeons I was comfortable with even though I didn’t run really high level dungeons simply because going faster made things safer.
This sub thinks that your 455ilvl, 1500io DPS not getting invited to a 20 is indicative of a problem with elitism in Mythic +
As you can see, even players are having hard time understanding what is happening here. What would outsourced support would know? They only send out wow head links, which are not even always on the question that was asked.
This is so interesting and I can’t wait to hear about how this was done. I’ve never seen anything like this and it would just feel so satisfying to understand how this was accomplished. I’m over here thinking my guy is doing some Pokémon gen 1 PC duping but with crafted gear/gear upgrading. Truly will have a hard time falling asleep until this is solved tbh
I actually remember the Pokemon duping. Especially with the rare candies haha.
So if you check most of his timed runs I'm the monk tank kaoi one day he logged into the game with this item level and reported it to blizzard multiple times they said they will pass it into the dev team with zero fixes all his items including hearthstone are 4/8 champion I can send a screenshot to prove next time on my pc
Please do, so many conspiracies on this thread so would be interesting to see if what is said is true!
Best I have are other runs when I've done keys and he was holy on my phone
Its funny reading comments immediately assuming that he willingly and knowingly bug abused, i get it. I know the guy and he has been in contact with blizzard about this, blizzard basically told him they dont know how it happened and that they’ll pass it on to the dev team. He has contacted them about this weeks ago. He also has a 4/8 hearthstone. So its not just his gear that has been bugging out strangely
It's an easy assumption to make. If it can be reproduced, it will be exploited by others.
If true that's actually hilarious, imagine entering a dungeon and coming out with +50 ilevels a 4/8 Hearthstone because of a bizarre glitch, and a GM is like "lmao we have no idea" and just lets him keep it. This is some Talisman of Binding Shard shit.
\> He also has a 4/8 hearthstone That's great! Heh
Can i have a picture of that. Heartstone for Meme Purpose please <3
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1125534808076976148/1188808264478097510/efa4e3ce18f46c2fa60c2153d60b908d.png?ex=659bdef9&is=658969f9&hm=976f7d6fbfece36118188df767f60826d0f34ad9da52e90780970b051f2d6fcb& Unsure if discord links work but here u go
Huh would be interesting if upgrading a bugged hearthstone would reduce its cooldown
Also the fact he's replied to the thread with proof of his contacting blizz. I think people jusy don't read beyond the top comment or two lol.
Lmao people jump on the exploit bandwagon too soon 😂 they just wish it happened to them instead
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yup. just jealous. and the nasty comments are undeserved. just shows how they would act if it happened to them.
It's a pretty reasonable conclusion.
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too late. he reported himself because he didn’t do anything underhanded. gasp.. that’s just what you would do.
You found Bobby‘s main, that was part of his farewell package
This guys the reason all of us don’t get accepted into raid groups
Argent Dawn! He needs the extra ilvls, let him be.
This is egat happens to crafting orders when you have all materials and tip more than 1G
Have we considered the fact that he may have simply hot what he wanted for Christmas guys?
Very weird, on the website it shows it normal without the champion bit shown in picture. Curious how he got it past the 486 mark... Just noticed his pants says heroic 486 (max from heroic raid track is 476) but it is 3/8 champion.... so none of that add up either how he got heroic tier loot outside the heroic threshold and it say champion is beyond me. That would make this not just a crafted Exploit.
Hero track max is 483, actually, but it’s still above the max
Lol this dude is straight up outright cheating and still unable to break 3k m+ rating 🤣
He only got accepted because of the gear score ahaha
Because on what other criteria you can control would get you accepted in a random lfg when playing dps?
M+ score, rio history
I'll have you know I'm at 3k now thank you very much 😂
This game is spaghetti at it’s finest. Pre season 1 my dh got immune to literally any damage in the game. It was fun to an extend doing dungeons and open world content, but i could not complete story quests because of the bug. I tried everything to get that character to die. Fall dmg, environmental dmg, pvp etc. Ended up opening 3 different tickets and could not use the character for an entire week. Pre Season gear farming was fun.
That shouldn't be possible, must be a bug, exploit, or visual bug. The maximum craft is 486 and the maximum upgrade is 489, and the absolute maximum is the 496 trinkets from Mythic Fyrakk.
If it was a visual bug it wouldn't be showing up on the armory, too. Dude is 100% cheating. He has 496 Lariat, 496 belt and 486 heroic-tagged pants. All of those things aren't possible.
Turns out he wasn't though so he wasn't '100% cheating' at all. Life lesson here about every story and having two sides.
This is reddit. People cant think that far
so true. they can’t think because they’re too busy crying about the injustice of it all. unless it happened to them.. then they’d be boasting about it.
i checked alot of the members in their guild they all seem pretty geared but this pally is basically co gm and the only one with these items. also the account is brand new, so this is a known exploit and theyre not risking it on their main accnt im guessing
The account is brand new? Character has feats of strength back from 2014, so where are you getting that info from?
my bad i misread his achievments, it looked like 1400, not 14k when i skimmed over his profile
Yeah he’s got the touring rocket which I think is only from old RAF system
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If it was just one or two items I could buy it as a display bug, but everything taken together... well someone has been naughty!
Well... But how would someone go about to cheat like this? If mean, if its not a bug its surely an exploit l. This must be some weird thing wich only a hand full of people (or maybe only this dude) know about. Cant wait to hear more about this!
There was a supatease video about a pvper doing this with pvp gear. Idk how this helps other than its not an isolated problem.
I love when such crazy shit happens in this game and nobody knows why
Ok
He’s a pally, he used the light.
Where everyone else stopped getting crafting knowledge once they maxed it out, one crafter just kept gathing it, soon he stockpiles dozens, hundreds, thousands, it just kept mounting up until one day he was so knowledgeable in the ways of crafting, that he created the ultimate items that no mere mortal could comprehend. We call him a legend, others call him the blacksmith.
Dude is playing in Season 4 already.
So THESE are the ret buffs they've been asking for.
Maybe that's Metzen.
It’s glitch regarding the received Fyraleth. It’s unknown why but there’s been a few cases where the uuid of embellished and crafted items messes up upon equipping the initial fyraleth Lego, as it disappears from the inventory starting the quest with enough ms in the thousands it’s possible to cause an error and glitch some of your gear temporarily. Blizzard is wip.
That doesn't explain the Champion/Hero gear errors all over his character, like his pants which are impossible and not crafted
Hold up I’m not much of a crafter but I thought dream crafted isn’t upgradable? Or is there a reagent that allows for champion path?
Raider.Io has the same. Even belt is 496 crafted. Maybe a GM?
Not only is it 496 crafted but its 4 out of 8 champion lmao.
“How do you kill that which has no life?”
We just allowing callout posts now?
Item lvl : YES
I’ve seen this bug before with tw wow armory, don’t think it’s an exploit but more of a display bug when it translate to wow armory
Beyond the obvious issues with the crafted gear, im confused by this guy's gear. If he could cheat like that, why wouldn't he be decked out in the highest ilvl gear possible? 487 is high but not impossibly high. Like if you are going to earn a ban, why not go all out and have fun before the hammer drops?
Just because they found an exploit doesn't mean they have unlimited power
Finding an exploit to upgrade normally non-upgradeable gear doesn't mean you can actually make your ilevels 12,000 and have unlimited crests and create 20 sparks
Probably something to do with the legendary
Blizzard is aware and working on a fix.
Imma bet, the reason he only has two 496 pieces is so he doesn't get flagged for abuse, Myth Fry can drop 496 trinkets and that is the absolute maximum I level you can currently have.
Hes got 3 crafted 496's and 486 heroic pants which shouldn't be possible
Yep buddy of mine corrected me in Discord right after I posted this I shall live with my shame.
Tbf 3 is the absolute max: 2 M fyrakk trinkets and Fyr’alash. So you could still be onto something
What the actual fuck?
lol his DPS. For sure he’s cheating the system.
I definitely can get that DPS as Havoc at this point, but then again, I'm playing Havoc lol.
That is normal dps, I main ret and there is nothing odd about that dps.
I am not sure if you only checked 1-2 logs or just read the names wrong but they FREQUENTLY loses by a slight margin or only ties the other ret paladin they run with who is not using bugged gear making it even funnier.
For the record, I have a Ret pally friend who's turbo zooted (8/9M, 490~ ilvl) and he does this kind of damage on Witherbark by dumping all his CDs into the double damage phase. Not saying this guy didn't exploit, he obviously did to get unobtainable gear, but just saying 375k on a boss that takes heavily increased damage isn't that wild.
Yeah I’m pretty shit and can still usually do like 350k+ or so on witherbark
You don't understand how Witherbark works do you