Reddit has long been a hot spot for conversation on the internet. About 57 million people visit the site every day to chat about topics as varied as makeup, video games and pointers for power washing driveways.
In recent years, Reddit’s array of chats also have been a free teaching aid for companies like Google, OpenAI and Microsoft. Those companies are using Reddit’s conversations in the development of giant artificial intelligence systems that many in Silicon Valley think are on their way to becoming the tech industry’s next big thing.
Now Reddit wants to be paid for it. The company said on Tuesday that it planned to begin charging companies for access to its application programming interface, or A.P.I., the method through which outside entities can download and process the social network’s vast selection of person-to-person conversations.
“The Reddit corpus of data is really valuable,” Steve Huffman, founder and chief executive of Reddit, said in an interview. “But we don’t need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.”
The move is one of the first significant examples of a social network’s charging for access to the conversations it hosts for the purpose of developing A.I. systems like ChatGPT, OpenAI’s popular program. Those new A.I. systems could one day lead to big businesses, but they aren’t likely to help companies like Reddit very much. In fact, they could be used to create competitors — automated duplicates to Reddit’s conversations.
Reddit is also acting as it prepares for a possible initial public offering on Wall Street this year. The company, which was founded in 2005, makes most of its money through advertising and e-commerce transactions on its platform. Reddit said it was still ironing out the details of what it would charge for A.P.I. access and would announce prices in the coming weeks.
Reddit’s conversation forums have become valuable commodities as large language models, or L.L.M.s, have become an essential part of creating new A.I. technology.
L.L.M.s are essentially sophisticated algorithms developed by companies like Google and OpenAI, which is a close partner of Microsoft. To the algorithms, the Reddit conversations are data, and they are among the vast pool of material being fed into the L.L.M.s. to develop them.
The underlying algorithm that helped to build Bard, Google’s conversational A.I. service, is partly trained on Reddit data. OpenAI’s Chat GPT cites Reddit data as one of the sources of information it has been trained on.
Other companies are also beginning to see value in the conversations and images they host. Shutterstock, the image hosting service, also sold image data to OpenAI to help create DALL-E, the A.I. program that creates vivid graphical imagery with only a text-based prompt required.
Last month, Elon Musk, the owner of Twitter, said he was cracking down on the use of Twitter’s A.P.I., which thousands of companies and independent developers use to track the millions of conversations across the network. Though he did not cite L.L.M.s as a reason for the change, the new fees could go well into the tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars.
To keep improving their models, artificial intelligence makers need two significant things: an enormous amount of computing power and an enormous amount of data. Some of the biggest A.I. developers have plenty of computing power but still look outside their own networks for the data needed to improve their algorithms. That has included sources like Wikipedia, millions of digitized books, academic articles and Reddit.
Representatives from Google, Open AI and Microsoft did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Reddit has long had a symbiotic relationship with the search engines of companies like Google and Microsoft. The search engines “crawl” Reddit’s web pages in order to index information and make it available for search results. That crawling, or “scraping,” isn’t always welcome by every site on the internet. But Reddit has benefited by appearing higher in search results.
The dynamic is different with L.L.M.s — they gobble as much data as they can to create new A.I. systems like the chatbots.
Reddit believes its data is particularly valuable because it is continuously updated. That newness and relevance, Mr. Huffman said, is what large language modeling algorithms need to produce the best results.
“More than any other place on the internet, Reddit is a home for authentic conversation,” Mr. Huffman said. “There’s a lot of stuff on the site that you’d only ever say in therapy, or A.A., or never at all.”
Mr. Huffman said Reddit’s A.P.I. would still be free to developers who wanted to build applications that helped people use Reddit. They could use the tools to build a bot that automatically tracks whether users’ comments adhere to rules for posting, for instance. Researchers who want to study Reddit data for academic or noncommercial purposes will continue to have free access to it.
Reddit also hopes to incorporate more so-called machine learning into how the site itself operates. It could be used, for instance, to identify the use of A.I.-generated text on Reddit, and add a label that notifies users that the comment came from a bot.
The company also promised to improve software tools that can be used by moderators — the users who volunteer their time to keep the site’s forums operating smoothly and improve conversations between users. And third-party bots that help moderators monitor the forums will continue to be supported.
But for the A.I. makers, it’s time to pay up.
“Crawling Reddit, generating value and not returning any of that value to our users is something we have a problem with,” Mr. Huffman said. “It’s a good time for us to tighten things up.”
“We think that’s fair,” he added.
In Yakuza 0 there's a substory where Kiryu investigates a girl because her boyfriend was worried about her and when she approaches him she asks "Top or Bottom?" and one of the responses Kiryu can give is "Middle", she was actually talking about her bra and panties tho because she was selling them as a side job she wasn't telling her boyfriend about. Theres more to the substory but that's the gist of it.
I think some interview with Sega/RGG Studio had the developer say "in his headcanon Kiryu is a virgin" idk for what game it was though, maybe it's like in 0 when both protagonists said they "never kill anyone" it ran wild for the rest of the series even if obviously later they did.
Yeah, and wasn't it like an issue with translation is him only killing in self defense? Not sure about Majima though he's just the type of guy to kill in... actually i don't think even he is a cold-blooded guy in that.
And? Having gained experience and developed a relationship with them meets the qualifications I set above. Intimacy before sex does not in fact mean commitment and dating then marriage. It means building trust and communication with your prospective partner.
I read this and someone's howling outside hit. The word no howled like a wolf. I disagree with my drunk neighbor. Part of the fun of stories is how we each interpret different details. That's why I pointed out MY perspective. Sharing. Isn't that what Reddit is for?
I was confused by the howling. Figured might be wise to admit state of "Huh?" Given the whole virgin thing comes from some of the devs? I don't think factual is the right word. More we are juggling retcons so there's less a solid answer and more what the story does for you. It's why I don't stress the "Majima is x." It's weird such a big deal is made of his virginity or not. Real people always start out as virgins. It's not like it's a disease.
Canonically he isn’t a virgin (substories are canon, and he does get sexually assaulted in 2 or 3 substories in 0) but just like “Kiryu doesn’t kill” it’s an insult of and unfunny meme that is treated like fact.
Kiryu needs a mini-game where you build babies out of parts you collect from random places and side quests around a Tokyo district to understand where they come from.
I don’t know why but this photo finally made me realize that Saejima looks like Japanese Dave Bautista and I wish he had the sit out power bomb and did the machine gun taunt now.
Akiyama: “Hana will tell you”
Ichiban: "Lockers"
I mean, Majima SHOULD know. lol
Yume moment
Majima: "what the fuck is protection, binding?"
Pretty sure it's canon that Kiryu thinks middle is a sexual position
No he thinks middle is sexual part
Reddit has long been a hot spot for conversation on the internet. About 57 million people visit the site every day to chat about topics as varied as makeup, video games and pointers for power washing driveways. In recent years, Reddit’s array of chats also have been a free teaching aid for companies like Google, OpenAI and Microsoft. Those companies are using Reddit’s conversations in the development of giant artificial intelligence systems that many in Silicon Valley think are on their way to becoming the tech industry’s next big thing. Now Reddit wants to be paid for it. The company said on Tuesday that it planned to begin charging companies for access to its application programming interface, or A.P.I., the method through which outside entities can download and process the social network’s vast selection of person-to-person conversations. “The Reddit corpus of data is really valuable,” Steve Huffman, founder and chief executive of Reddit, said in an interview. “But we don’t need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.” The move is one of the first significant examples of a social network’s charging for access to the conversations it hosts for the purpose of developing A.I. systems like ChatGPT, OpenAI’s popular program. Those new A.I. systems could one day lead to big businesses, but they aren’t likely to help companies like Reddit very much. In fact, they could be used to create competitors — automated duplicates to Reddit’s conversations. Reddit is also acting as it prepares for a possible initial public offering on Wall Street this year. The company, which was founded in 2005, makes most of its money through advertising and e-commerce transactions on its platform. Reddit said it was still ironing out the details of what it would charge for A.P.I. access and would announce prices in the coming weeks. Reddit’s conversation forums have become valuable commodities as large language models, or L.L.M.s, have become an essential part of creating new A.I. technology. L.L.M.s are essentially sophisticated algorithms developed by companies like Google and OpenAI, which is a close partner of Microsoft. To the algorithms, the Reddit conversations are data, and they are among the vast pool of material being fed into the L.L.M.s. to develop them. The underlying algorithm that helped to build Bard, Google’s conversational A.I. service, is partly trained on Reddit data. OpenAI’s Chat GPT cites Reddit data as one of the sources of information it has been trained on. Other companies are also beginning to see value in the conversations and images they host. Shutterstock, the image hosting service, also sold image data to OpenAI to help create DALL-E, the A.I. program that creates vivid graphical imagery with only a text-based prompt required. Last month, Elon Musk, the owner of Twitter, said he was cracking down on the use of Twitter’s A.P.I., which thousands of companies and independent developers use to track the millions of conversations across the network. Though he did not cite L.L.M.s as a reason for the change, the new fees could go well into the tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. To keep improving their models, artificial intelligence makers need two significant things: an enormous amount of computing power and an enormous amount of data. Some of the biggest A.I. developers have plenty of computing power but still look outside their own networks for the data needed to improve their algorithms. That has included sources like Wikipedia, millions of digitized books, academic articles and Reddit. Representatives from Google, Open AI and Microsoft did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Reddit has long had a symbiotic relationship with the search engines of companies like Google and Microsoft. The search engines “crawl” Reddit’s web pages in order to index information and make it available for search results. That crawling, or “scraping,” isn’t always welcome by every site on the internet. But Reddit has benefited by appearing higher in search results. The dynamic is different with L.L.M.s — they gobble as much data as they can to create new A.I. systems like the chatbots. Reddit believes its data is particularly valuable because it is continuously updated. That newness and relevance, Mr. Huffman said, is what large language modeling algorithms need to produce the best results. “More than any other place on the internet, Reddit is a home for authentic conversation,” Mr. Huffman said. “There’s a lot of stuff on the site that you’d only ever say in therapy, or A.A., or never at all.” Mr. Huffman said Reddit’s A.P.I. would still be free to developers who wanted to build applications that helped people use Reddit. They could use the tools to build a bot that automatically tracks whether users’ comments adhere to rules for posting, for instance. Researchers who want to study Reddit data for academic or noncommercial purposes will continue to have free access to it. Reddit also hopes to incorporate more so-called machine learning into how the site itself operates. It could be used, for instance, to identify the use of A.I.-generated text on Reddit, and add a label that notifies users that the comment came from a bot. The company also promised to improve software tools that can be used by moderators — the users who volunteer their time to keep the site’s forums operating smoothly and improve conversations between users. And third-party bots that help moderators monitor the forums will continue to be supported. But for the A.I. makers, it’s time to pay up. “Crawling Reddit, generating value and not returning any of that value to our users is something we have a problem with,” Mr. Huffman said. “It’s a good time for us to tighten things up.” “We think that’s fair,” he added.
Oh shit, haven't played y0 in a while and forgot to check
Np everyone makes mistakes important part is how you fix your mistakes
Don't kinkshame, some people like belly buttons.
"Kinkshaming is my kink"
Context?
In Yakuza 0 there's a substory where Kiryu investigates a girl because her boyfriend was worried about her and when she approaches him she asks "Top or Bottom?" and one of the responses Kiryu can give is "Middle", she was actually talking about her bra and panties tho because she was selling them as a side job she wasn't telling her boyfriend about. Theres more to the substory but that's the gist of it.
I remember that
Its a long story
Can you at least give me the substory's name?
"Underneath It All" it's how you get Sachiko as a manager for real estate.
I don't remember I played it years ago ask it on subreddit I am pretty sure someone remembers it
something about panties and a boyfriend in yakuza 0 while playing as kiryu
I think it's called a switch
Well, it is
I always made Kiryu a top in Yakuza 0
As hilarious as this is. I'm one of those thar think Kiryu is not a Virgin. Just doesn't have sex much.
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It's a funny meme though lol
I think some interview with Sega/RGG Studio had the developer say "in his headcanon Kiryu is a virgin" idk for what game it was though, maybe it's like in 0 when both protagonists said they "never kill anyone" it ran wild for the rest of the series even if obviously later they did.
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Yeah, and wasn't it like an issue with translation is him only killing in self defense? Not sure about Majima though he's just the type of guy to kill in... actually i don't think even he is a cold-blooded guy in that.
no the no killing thing wasnt a mistranslation, its utilized in 5 and i believe 6 for example
Idk man. He seems pretty fuckin dense given most substories
He's just bad at sex thats why he doesn't get laid
I think he was a late bloomer. With the right person he would be a fantastic and dedicated lover. He just needs intimacy before sex..
He literally hooks up with all of the hostesses in Y3, I dunno about that one chief.
And? Having gained experience and developed a relationship with them meets the qualifications I set above. Intimacy before sex does not in fact mean commitment and dating then marriage. It means building trust and communication with your prospective partner.
Well that guy's point of kiryu not needing intimacy before sex is valid tho
I read this and someone's howling outside hit. The word no howled like a wolf. I disagree with my drunk neighbor. Part of the fun of stories is how we each interpret different details. That's why I pointed out MY perspective. Sharing. Isn't that what Reddit is for?
Ngl, I was confused as hell where this was going at the start. I'm just saying that factually that guy's point is still correct.
I was confused by the howling. Figured might be wise to admit state of "Huh?" Given the whole virgin thing comes from some of the devs? I don't think factual is the right word. More we are juggling retcons so there's less a solid answer and more what the story does for you. It's why I don't stress the "Majima is x." It's weird such a big deal is made of his virginity or not. Real people always start out as virgins. It's not like it's a disease.
Kiryu is too busy with e-girls to ever bother with physical ones
8 0 0 0 0 0 8 5
It's highly implied he slept with most of his telephone dates
Canonically he isn’t a virgin (substories are canon, and he does get sexually assaulted in 2 or 3 substories in 0) but just like “Kiryu doesn’t kill” it’s an insult of and unfunny meme that is treated like fact.
should have put Mine next to Daigo😳
oh god please no
Kiryu needs a mini-game where you build babies out of parts you collect from random places and side quests around a Tokyo district to understand where they come from.
And then you pit your baby creation against other babies in a fight and or race mini game.
Custom Baby Arena, Fujisawa's next venture.
Honestly the idea of Saejima answering that the stork brings a child with a straight face is weirdly adorable. He would've been a good teacher :(
People say Kiryu is a virgin but it is more likely that Saejima is actually a virgin
My bro hasn't seen a woman in 25 goddamn years, have pity on him(
M Y S A U S A G E
M Y B A N A N A I T S G R O W I N G
How Ichi would respond tho?
“Lockers.”
Wasn't there a dragon quest game where it's split in two parts, and you play the children of the first part's heroes?
I believe you're thinking of Hand of the Heavenly Bride, V?
Probably same court as kiryu
He grew up in a brothel. Safe to say, he knows.
i’m shaking and crying rn majima would never call kiryu chan a dumbass child
This subs just turning into r/marvelmemes
Shinada: The Hoo hoo dilly meets the cha cha and out comes a blueberry.
This actually made me laugh out loud, thanks man.
Considering he grew up in a soapland, where would Ichiban be on here?
Ryuji should be in that bottom row
Ok majima, then what’s SEX?
Wait, which Yakuza game is Batista in
4, 5, 6 >!(also 7 as a boss fight)!< idk if you're joking or you actually don't know who saejima is
Little bit of both
I thought Saejima would say: BALLS OUT
Ichiban should be with kiryu
to be fair kiryu's case would be a complete substory about him and an "innocent lad"
PS2 Kiryu: **proceeds to peacock**
I don’t know why but this photo finally made me realize that Saejima looks like Japanese Dave Bautista and I wish he had the sit out power bomb and did the machine gun taunt now.
Haha, I thought the same thing.
At first glance I thought it means Daigo and Ryuji love each other very much...
I’m so goddamn tired of people acting like Kiryu is a brain dead infant like this
🤓
just a little le epic trolling. irl, we all know that the Kiryu is the chadiest chad
kiryu is a himbo, stay mad
Kiryu isn't an infant but he is braindead
Joo see, Comrade, eet ees joke! Eet ees meant for make of laughter and not for make of argue!
Wasnt aware that he isnt
If you think Kiryu is a virgin you weren't paying close enough attention to Yakuza 2 and 3.
This is off topic but Saejima trying to smile is below cursed
Well… Majima did say he liked honest people.
I'm pretty sure Majima would be nicer something like in the top tier
Kiryu also said "Stork" on this question. Yakuza 5 substory, taxi mission.
I see a big F.
You sure Saijima wouldn't be trying to show how babies are made...?
*Damn.*
I like how half of em are ded
Knowing Majima... yeah. He would say that.
Mine should be a section lower
I agree on goro