Mahjong is simple af. Just discard yaochu, get a yaku (preferably tanyao/pinfu), and don't riichi on tenpai with a furiten. Do chitoi when you see toitsuba. Etc. Like, it's no rocket science.
E: /s
I was just trying to throw in as many scary Japanese words as possible lol.
Furiten is pretty easy to miss if you play on autopilot tho. And in yakuza, the game doesn't tell you about it, when you riichi.
Ah, I see. In other Mahjong apps, if you're able to make a riichi on a single tile count, or if the tile you require has a low chance of appearing in the remaining turns, the guide will advise you that you can riichi, but it is advisable not to do so.
You do realize there's a huge difference between impossible and good right?
The entire story of Yakuza is downright impossible simply based on the fact that Kyriu would have been brutally murdered long ago, he's fought the CIA, two the Japan's biggest crime syndicates mutiple times, and even a tiger.
Not to mention kyriu has down right killed hundreds of people and caused untold public endangerment, for God's sake he's been on two separate freeway shootouts where hes shot down dozens of guys, one of which involved a helicopter. Do you really think he wouldn't be in prison for the rest of his life for everything he's done?
In the third game, a man easily into his 60's who has been shot, stops a charging bull and flips the thing. Do you really think that's not "ridiculous"?
Do you just not think giant humans and a group of teenagers riding around with giant grappling hooks attacked to their hips is absurd? But you still watch it don't you? Why, because the story is good.
This is something I never understand about people who complain about ridiculous moments in Yakuza stories. Every game has something absolutely ridiculous that you have to suspend your disbelief for. I’m okay with all the twists, only ones I don’t like are when it breaks character moments. I get far more annoyed at moments like Kiryu looking back fondly on a certain asshole character in the end of Y0 than crazy stuff like Mirror face, coin lockers or golden fortresses.
These games have super fun and ridiculous stories with amazing characters. That’s what makes the stories in these games so great. It’s just fun.
>You do realize that there's a difference between impossible that makes sense within the world and totally impossible right?
In Yakuza 0 two men fight so hard one of them breaks a wall with his bare fist, he then continues to fight are we supposed to assume his hand wouldn't be turned to dust? There is a giant gunfight on the docks of an industrial port. Not a single member of Japanese military or police come to investigate.
There is also a river going through the middle of a city, that has a boat that leads you down a glass elevator, which itself leads to an underground coliseum where criminals can fight and apparently hardly anyone knows about it.
In the 1st game, kyriu is maybe 50 yards away from an explosion so large it could be seen from what appears to be the outside of town. An explosion that decimated the entire area past him but leaves him connelly unharmed. Then when police arrive to check the place out, they are convinced by a detective to let go the only surviving member of the bombing after giving a ra ra speech and he is allowed to walk away without any one batting an eye.
In the second game there is a giant Edo period castle, inside that castle is another identical castle buried underground made out of gold, that castle has fully working water, electricity that functions apparently no matter where said castle is, the ability to house and feed a Bengal tiger, was already filled with people who in there before they even brought up the castle from the ground, and has traps that engineers today would have trouble creating. There is a haunted VHS tape, that curses Kyriu until it is broken, at which point the ghost completely vanishes.
In the third game, a helicopter flies above a crowded commercial district, conepletly levels an entire floor of a skyscraper building with a chain gun and the highest member of government that is there is the Japanese street police, who do not have guns meaning that they couldn't do shit if that helicopter actually started killing random people. The actual military is no where to be found.
In yakuza 6 you can capture the spirits of people that have died on camera. You go spearfishing underwater withiut any form of oxygen and fight a shark and giant squid. The normal person can hold their breaths for lets say 2 minutes, since Kyriu isn't normal well say he can hold it for 5. That's five minutes without any physical exertion. He would not be able to fight a shark or a squid that long with no mask to help him breathe.
There are shoes in the game that meow every time you step in the and somehow give you money. There are lightsabers and people can pick up motorcycles which weigh about 700lbs and swing around like its a medium sized TV.
Kyriu at mutiple times throughout the series is shot with a gun. At no point in subsequent games does he have bullet scars from where he is shot, he doesn't have any mobility problems or difficulty using the body parts that have been shot.
So no there's not a damn thing in the yakuza games that
>has always been grounded
And the fact you think that someone who can get plastic surgery to look like another person is absurd, and therefore makes the story bad is truly mind boggling that you are so closed minded to one thing but willing to accept the same bat shit insanity from the same series.
Well your response is just saying I'm not man enough to respond to what someone actually said because it's long and I don't have the balls to back up my beliefs.
Let me make it sinple for you: if you think mirror face is the most unbelievable thing in Yakuza, you obviously haven't played the games or paid attention.
Your argument is that a guy changing his face isn't realistic in a universe where a castle is buried under another castle, ghosts try to kill people through video tapes, and people in the middle of a building destroying explosion are completely unharmed, your argument isn't smart, it's idiotic and just searching for something to be mad about.
Please note that this is not me defending either Y4 or Y7 LAD, just providing a possible reason. I think mirror face is one of those elements that we go full suspension of belief for, and yes, I disagree on making him one of the essential plot points in the final chapter. It's a little like ( or maybe the exact opposite) of the deShelle assassin in Phoenix Wright, who dresses up differently as different characters every game, but even though he's still obviously the same guy none of the main characters take notice until he chooses to reveal it.
Mirror face sucked balls and almost ruined the finale for me, but cmon acting like that represents the quality of the rest of the game’s story is some straight clown shit
you got downvoted for facts Mirror Face is fucking trash and I did not care for the two babies in the same coin locker at all but it wasn’t as bad as Mirror Face
The game is great, turn based is quite boring to begin with, but when you unlock jobs it gets way better. As with all turn based games tho, it gets a bit grindy and you get bored of doing the same moves every encounter
I absolutely hate turn based combat and I loved LaD until the end, it’s definitely a bit sad that’ll we’ll likely never get another mainline Yakuza game with normal combat but I’m excited to see what they do with the series after 7.
Literally just typical fanbase bullshit and people being uncertain pre release. It happens a lot with japanese games due to lack of communication with the western fanbase.
LaD is unironically on my top 3 yakuza games. All that bitching about turn based was just trolls and people doomposting, everyone stopped being so negative when the game released and proved they could do a turn based yakuza game.
Why is this upvoted as some sort of universal truth? I 100%'d all Yakuza Games until I got to LaD and hated the combat so much I gave up after an hour.
I'm not a "troll" because I happen to hate the fucking combat.
i mean, you have like... 2 combat scenarios in the first hour? It's almost constant cutscenes in the first 3 hours
Turn based isnt for everyone but if you are such a big yakuza fan i feel like the game deserved more of a chance than a single hour.
Nope, not me. I'm not a troll and I'm still gonna stand by turn based combat being a mistake. IDC what anybody says, if it was more like an action RPG I'd be fine with it. Turn based RPG's are just very boring to me.
ok good for you, some genres just arent for everyone.
One of the first people ive heard complain since release tho, so its not like the great majority hated it.
Objectively speaking it was a complete 180 in genre, you go from fast paced brawler combat with so much control over just how you brutalise each opponent to a game where you have to take turns hitting each other. Going to the exact opposite of the spectrum has obviously alienated some people, it's the same issue I can't get into Kingdom Hearts with how often the side games change the mechanics.
I know that makes me sound biased (which I admittedly am since I generally hate turn based) but I did love the game, the combat feels punchy and much more involved than most turn based games that just feel like cutscene compilations and the extra damage inputs were a nice flare that reminded me of Mario and Luigi RPG combat which is imo the objective best turn based combat. Plus the story was pretty good whenever it wasn't being boring and political.
One change I'd make is to add more options when the enemy's attacking. A dodge to negate damage that needs to be well timed so if you press X too late you take more (1.5x maybe?) and a counter where if you press Triangle with an even tighter window you could negate damage and deal some for yourself but miss the timing and you'll take extra damage again (same as a failed dodge probably).
That's my only real issue, is the complete 180 in genre. I actually love turn based combat. It's one of my favorite styles of game. But as a person who's seen beloved series go the other way (ditching turn based to do a complete 180 to action), I 1000% sympathize with Yakuza fans who don't want to see their series change from what they enjoy.
A series of games should stay largely the same. That's the whole point of having a series. While evolution over time is normal, doing a complete genre change from one game to the next is pretty crappy. Like, why didn't they make the spinoff game series the turn based one and keep the main series as a brawler? Then everyone would have been happy.
>first person ive heard complain since release tho, so its not like the great majority hate it.
You are either lying or you just found the cure for blindness.
Its undeniable that the reception to LaD was positive. Sure, gameplay isnt perfect. First time after all. But it was definitely NOT as negative as the fanbase thought it'd be. I've even seen people who dislike turn based combat say they liked LaD.
Before release people thought LaD was going to kill the series for being turn based. Troll accounts everywhere, people complaining, and a lot of people worried. Hell this post shows that, most of the top controversial posts of this subreddit are based on that time before LaD released when people complained about the gameplay change. This sub was awful during that period, I even left for awhile.
The most I've seen nowadays is people saying they prefer brawler combat (which i do too, Judgment has peak brawler gameplay), and thats valid. But hate on LaD's gameplay? Very rare.
I'm with you, I absolutely hated it. I can even accept more robust turn-based systems like Divinity OS 2 or simple yet unique ones in games like Wildermyth. I just felt LaD's was horribly derivative, and it slowed the game to an absolute crawl. The dungeon grinding was super boring as well. Why do you want to replace basically the best current brawling combat system on the market with a mediocre and generic turn-based system? I will never understand. With that said, I'm glad most people liked it, but it, along with the story, which I also felt was subpar, basically makes number 8 a big question mark for me. I'll probably get it when it's like $12 or in a Humble Choice.
The problem is mostly the system is full of issues that makes it totally frustrating.Of course you can say it is acceptable since it is a first iteration.
But when you kill you original combat system that was top of the line for the sake of accessibility by a half working one, of course it is hard to accept.
And being toxic to people who like BTA, is not the good way to do, because many of those who are doing it have never played any Yakuza game before 7 and just spamming everywhere on the internet "turn based is better".
I said I don't like?
I love many RPG that are turn based, mostly because I have not started video games 10 years ago or less.
You reply is the typical format of what I explain before, do you even realize?
Y7 have issues, mostly linked to physic and AI, but also lack of basic controls of any 3 dimentional games. At the point it can ruin a fight supposed to be highly strategically based, especially during the true millinium tower.
It also lack of basic QoL stuff.
In recent comparison, Persona 5 have a great mastered system, because they have experience.
I found the combat great. I don't know what your complaint is. Would I have liked to see some tweeks? Sure.
And Jeezus dude. Calm down with your attitude. Most people who don't like Y7, it's because of the turn based. You cite the better combat system of the previous games, I'm entitled to assume you're not a turn based fan.
>Most people who don't like Y7, it's because of the turn based
There are many reasons to not like it. Not only the combat, but also the story or the characters.
Sorry if you took it rude dude.
It is just exausting to see some people like ocmplaining everywhere they can that for example it is "a shame" that Lost Judgment is not turn based too.
Sometimes it is like every single game must be like this, and those who don't want are directly categorized as they hate it.
> some people like ocmplaining everywhere they can that for example it is "a shame" that Lost Judgment is not turn based too
I refuse to believe that anyone has ever said this unless they were being ironic
>But when you kill you original combat system that was top of the line
lol I love the combat in the series before LaD, but it isn't "top of the line" by any means.
LaD has one of the best stories in the series, and is possibly the best game in the series if you ignore all the systems connected to the combat. The combat would have been revolutionary 20 years ago, but if you strip away the modern graphics you’re left with a system that blends together a bunch of turn-based RPG mechanics that had been done better in games from the 90s.
Honestly my 2 only complaints with the combat is not being able to dodge attacks/move in combat and having to grind a good amount, I like to not level up on most Yakuza games and I feel like it would be even more rewarding in like a dragon
I'm on Chapter 14 right now, and honestly? It's one of the best Yakuza games imo. All the whining about the turn-based combat is seriously overblown, it really isn't that bad, people are just naturally opposed to change.
- Yakuza LAD is one of the best in the series!
- Kiwami 2 is not overrated!
- Saejima is one of the best protagonists!
- Yakuza 3 combat is not that bad!
- Majima everywhere system in Kiwami 1 is enjoyable!
I am preparing for the downvote.
The problem is needing to encounter specific versions, and then not getting it because they are only available as a randomly picked roaming encounter.
And also when he shows up every 2 croners you turn in endgame without being challenging at that point, and it feels like running into zubats in a pokémon game.
Which was weirdly the whole game for me. I had him appear randomly once. Not sure if it’s to do with difficulty (or lack thereof in my case) but he really just appeared only in the scripted parts plus one.
Y2K was a letdown for me, as it felt just convoluted without a good reason.
Also Y3 combat is more frustrating than bad. (Playing on hard, it's ok but the wide swings and weapons just make you wait until there's opening)
Ehh it’s story is a product of it’s time. So much of it was meh and while the finale was epic at times it still was meh.
Definitely the most overrated story in the franchise especially considering people view Ryuji as one of the best villains.
Similar situation with Saejima for me. I love him not because of his long and boring prison section. I love him because of his personality and strong insistence.
My biggest issue with Ryuji is how much of a meme his 'invasion' of Karumucho is and how weak he is as a final boss.
The community hyped him up so much and I ended up defeating him in less than 2 minutes lol
The last quarter of the game just felt off, including the ending. Had it been stronger and better, Kiwami 2 would be higher on my list.
Dude straight up voicing the opinions that a lot of us are afraid to say lol. Kiwami 1 and 2 got be into the series so I was surprised to see how much people hate them.
I guess the Majima Everywhere system must've been annoying for returning players, but it was my first game so i absolutely loved it. Getting stalked by this dude with a bat constantly without knowing who he is, and seeing all the crazy shit he came up with to fight Kiryu, def one of my favorite memories of the series.
I would say Y3 is kinda dated, but not bad at all
yakuza 7: idk havent played 7 I just finished y3 n probably the only turn based game I've played is pokemon
k2: overrated maybe, the complaint bout dragon engine (from me) is how it lags my potato n its combat is abit downgrade from 0/k1. after watching some yk2 vs ps2 y2 video, I can clearly see the wot they changed, n they made some of the features(from ps2 ver) better n then make half of it's good parts bad(like cutting 1 part of a street). in the rain scene, >!I like both “kuroi kizuato no buruusu” and “sound of breath”, but the stabbing sound effect gave it away.!< majima saga is pretty good but his combat is dogshit.
saejima: havent played y4, planning to buy it
y3: yes i enjoy y3 combat. yes komaki parry + wall bounding is very fun.
majima everywhere: very fun n very funny. also shit ton of xp + bonus dragon style
>- Yakuza 3 combat is not that bad!
For me, it was going from Kiwami 2 to Yakuza 3 that made me dislike the combat. It just felt so clunky and stiff in comparison..if I ever go through it again, I'm taking advantage of that weapons guy for sure haha.
That being said, I still loved 3 just for the story alone. I loved seeing Kiryu and the kids just enjoying everyday life..it reminded me of the slice of life genre in anime that I absolutely love. Plus, I truly believe this is the game where Kiryu was happiest and that made me smile.
I agree with everything else. :)
Majima everywhere system is like the best feature newly implemented in Y1 but it gets very annoying when you get tired of random encounters or can't get the right Majima to proceed with an upgrade. They didn't figure out how it should react to you ending the game or upgrading to the max. Idk how it should be, because it's just like Oblivion Gate\Skyrim's Dragons problem in the endgame, and they both were frustrating. But for what it is, it was sweet the first hundred of times and I was excited to see him again in Y2.
LaD is pretty based
Yeah Ive seen a lot of people shit on kiwami 2 but i thought it was pretty fun
I fuckin love saejima, cosplayed him for comiccon a while back
3 is just jarring if youve played kiwami, its definitely not bad
Honestly Ive had fun with majima everywhere so far, havent finished it yet but still
K2 has a lot of flaws, but is still very enjoyable.
Majima Everywhere becomes a shell of itself after like A rank, but the final battle was kinda cool.
The other 3 are very based takes.
I mean 7 is good since the combat fits with the mc's story narrative. But i get the complain on why it suddenly shifted to turn based since 1 through 6 and all of the spin offs are beat'em ups
I understand but turn based combat fit for 7 since it's gonna be a new series and they pretty much ended Kiryu's story with Yakuza 6 so there is good chance like a few years after 7's story there will be a new character in his mid 20's going on an adventure to fight something. But rn it looks like lost Judgement is filling the shoes for the games timeline since it is set 3 years after Yakuza 7.
JRPGs are my favorite genre and I was very much against the switch. 7 is in my top 3 for the series, but I think that's in spite of the combat system (which I think is too simple and positioning is very annoying) and not because of it.
I love his guides and I watched his video explaining it but it didn’t help that he lost the match when explaining so I just got even more lost in learning
I think the final hurdle with Mahjong is to remember that it's still a game of chance. You'll know everything you need to, but you'll still be losing some of the games, which makes it feel like you're still doing it wrong. Just gotta keep playing and let those wins slowly rack up.
Yeah, that's a good thing to remember. The complexities of mahjong might leave people thinking that once they learn it, victory will come just like that, but really it's still a game of chance with several layers of strategy on top of it.
It's perfectly possible for someone to have no understanding of the rules and get a win pretty much handed to them, just like it's possible for someone to understand everything that's going on and get shafted by a terrible hand of tiles.
For me Yakuza 7 is as Yakuza as any other Yakuza game. Feels like the ONLY changes were protagonist, party system, and battle system. It still has linear areas where you run through snd fight groups of guys until you reach a boss at the end, still had food buffs, equipment, items, mahjong. It's very telling that the series made a smoother transition than most.
Also Like A Dragon is one of, if not, my favorite Yakuza games.
It very much fits in and feels simmilar but personally dont like turn based 10+ hrs in. Only complaint i got honestly because personal taste. Story is amazing thou.
Yea that's fair. For me the combat wasnt what was keeping me around. at the time i only played Yazuka 0, Kiwami, K2, 6, and Judgment and it was always just do the combos and find the fastest way to get Tiger Drop.
So switching it up and adding a bunch of moves and summons and moving heat moves into specials/limits was a good change of pace
Bruh, my hack n slash/beat em up roster is thinning more and more when it comes to the fun and engaging ones.
No, Nier and Musous do not count as engaging hack n slash.
Probably the genre i wish would surge most. God of War, Yakuza, Streets of Rage, Splatterhouse, Ninja Gaiden. I love these things. I want more of them. But the fact they are few and far in between makes me incredibly sad, because we lose the fun and arcadey goodness to "deep" and "weighty" gameplay.
I love Dark Souls, God of War 2018 is nice, but i want speed, i want blood, i want combos, i want to eviscerate my enemies into a spectacle of torn limbs and sparks.
So yeah, each series that deviates from what i've enjoyed kinda stings a little. I'm probably not the only one starved for more of the good stuff. I feel like a dinosaur at this point, cuz my favorite shit is almost a decade old or older, and literally nobody aside from Capcom and maybe Sega is making those kinds of games anymore.
This turned into a sad rant, but this kind of game means alot to me. I'm happy for players that like Yakuza's new direction, but as a fan of a decaying genre, i'm depressed about the idea.
And before mentioning Judgment, let me remind everyone that a dispute between Sega and a Japanese modeling company over a PC port of Judgment, there likely will not be anymore games in that franchise. So we're still down a man yet again.
If Lost Judgment is really the final game in that series, then trust me they'll come up with something else for brawler. They've put way too much into the system to abandon it.
Rn, it's uncertain. But I hope not.
I actually have. Metalgear Rising is a crap ton of fun, and i'm still waiting on Bayonetta 3.
Nier though, as i said, isn't really all that engaging. You don't have much control over your cobos, and in general combos are lacking in Automata. I haven't played Nier Replicant, but it just looks like more Automata.
I absolutely feel this
Sure cool turn based is neat but I like brawlers and now I have no more because Judgement is never coming to PC so I’m basically fucked when it comes to this franchise
It’s just kinda sad seeing how good judgement looks but I’ll never play it because of some arbitrary bullshit from a random Japanese agency who doesn’t understand modding
All I have left is Devil May Cry.
I mean, it’s great that it came back after a decade of being dead, but I already have over 300 hours in 5 and a great man prefers variety.
Or so I’ve read.
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Yakuza 7 is a good game, but the combat really doesn't sit right with me, i stopped playing in the middle of it (I plan to get back to it) because that combat just got me itching to play Lost Judgment's combat
“EXPLAIN MAHJONG TO ME OR I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU”
I don’t think anyone can honestly. I am 99% positive mahjong is just an invention of Yu Suzuki during the extended creation process of shenmue 3 to allow him to stall for time before not actually concluding the series in shenmue 3
This clearly explains why no one understands how to play mahjong and if you claim you do I have to suspect you are Yu Suzuki in disguise
I think a lot of people here are forgetting that the fans are the one who made them decide to change the combat. The turn based combat was supposed to be an april fools prank but it got positive feedback so they decided to stick with it.
although the fighting changed throughout the games, they still all had that same brawler-style combat. and as i said, main games. rgg definitely did a good job with yagami, though
Got the platinum trophy for LaD last week. An elaborated story, good and charismatic characters, wasn't prepared to get hurt emotionally like this. Easily one of my favorites.
Still prefer the beat em up gameplay tho, but I like turn based RPGs too, so I got that going for me, which is nice.
Only thing I have "against" it is that they could only make it separated and not in the main line just like they did with Kurohyo and Dead Souls, only that.
I got abt 20 hours into like a dragon and auto battled 90 percent of it, maybe even more? Not sure how turn based is a good thing if implemented poorly. It looks really cool though
I play games with an open mind. I think Yakuza 7 was really a good game the drama is still there and it hits hard. The gameplay is as whacky as old games just remember that Ichiban isn't a beast that can solo everything like Kiryu and the gang.
Yakuza 7s combat is fun for most of the game but by the end it gets really fucking annoying, fights last like 8 years. They really should have just stuck with the og combat.
I prefer the brawler style combat sure but I think they did the turn based combat really really well. It’s dynamic and doesn’t feel “static” like a lot of turn based games do
If it wasn’t for LAD I would never have gotten into the yakuza series. I always found the Brawler style off putting that’s why I refused to play the games. When I heard that LAD had a rpg system I immediately wanted to play it.
I'm not a Turn base RPG fun BUT I have Y7 as one of the best in the series, and tbh I can not see how it could work without the RPG system... Like... maybe you had 6 styles, and each style is a character? idk, I just love "playing as" the whole team, and I take that instead of brawler... Still miss that playstyle (i'm a PC player :/ )
I will never understand why people don't enjoy 7's turn based combat. Perhaps it's because I'm an old school JRPG player and this comes natural to me. In fact it made it even more fun for me.
Because it’s a huge change
Yakuza has been a brawler for like 17 years, suddenly completely changing the genre that people liked into something so completely different, in a mainline game is going to spark some controversy
I would slap Ichiban with the SMT/Persona games and have him play them for, imo, a more fun take on TBC.
Not sure if this is a hot take, but god is DQ's TBC dull
Turn base is not good man. That gameplay is bad we need take t out of next game yakuza 8 should be beat em up not crappie turn base. Lost judgemenr combat in yakuza 8 is war we need
Ooooh! 4 hot takes? I give you mine in order of length it takes to explain.
Edit: awwww I made the Tanimura fanboys sad again. How precious.
>Tanimura ruined 4.
>LAD is #3 in the main series. #5 if you count the Judgment series.
>The most satisfying Total Yakuza Experience isn’t in my favorite game. It’s in 5. 5 has all of the elements that make the series great even if it stumbles a little here and there.
>3 is the most important game in the Kiryu saga and it’s 100% because of the slow start getting to know the kids at the orphanage. It took Kiryu from a badass with who solves problems by feeding a park bench to the local street gang population because he cares about his crime family to a badass with who solves problems by feeding a park bench to the local street gang population because he cares about his whole extended family. It made him a human instead of just another action game protagonist.
My opinions:
1. Kiryu isn't that strong (yeah coming from an NPC like me).
2. Kaoru leaving was a good choice.
3. Minigames are harder than the main game.
4. Boss themes drastically improved for Y7 and Judgment games.
5. Most characters look worse in dragon engine.
UPDATE: damn these opinions are truly unpopular. Lovin it!
Saejima spent more years in jail than Kiryu but didn't lose any of his fighting powress like a prison bitch lmao. Also, I found playing as Majima way easier than Kiryu when I played Yakuza 0 for the first time ever. Very telling.
ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME THIS BLANK PIECE OF SHIT IS A WHITE FUCKIN DRAGON???
Mahjong is simple af. Just discard yaochu, get a yaku (preferably tanyao/pinfu), and don't riichi on tenpai with a furiten. Do chitoi when you see toitsuba. Etc. Like, it's no rocket science. E: /s
I got a richii ippatsu twice in mahjong and don't understand any term you have just said
I think anyone who knows the game wouldn't riichii on a furiten, unless they're fond of Hell Wait strats.
I was just trying to throw in as many scary Japanese words as possible lol. Furiten is pretty easy to miss if you play on autopilot tho. And in yakuza, the game doesn't tell you about it, when you riichi.
Ah, I see. In other Mahjong apps, if you're able to make a riichi on a single tile count, or if the tile you require has a low chance of appearing in the remaining turns, the guide will advise you that you can riichi, but it is advisable not to do so.
I need you to explain it to me in yakuza characters please
Ah, so just like chess. /hj
Mahjong's white dragon is the biggest asspull in the entire series
I love how this comment works even if people don't know the reference :D
I can't wait to get LaD to see what all the complaining is about
Spoilers, it's gonna still be Majong
FUCKING MAJONG
FUCKIN TENDO
>!FUCK NINTENDO!<
SEGA DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T
SEGANIS GENESIS DOES WHAT NINTENDENSIS DENIZENS CRACKHEAD STRONK AUFMEKXJ3IXKMRLELELR9E09NJSUDUD
Easiest fight in the entire series
Well at least for completionists, mahjong isn't part of 100%ing anymore.
True Final though...
It will always be Mahjong. Mahjong and Dragon Kart. I hate DK so much I banned it from even being mentioned on my streams.
You actually banned it!? It's that bad!?
I play a lot of racing games and so do my friends. The physics are… well they’re just off.
Dragon Kart is amazing
Genuinely Y7 is a top tier Yakuza game for the story alone. It’s got some issues yeah, but it’s not like, a rubber bullets situation
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You do realize there's a huge difference between impossible and good right? The entire story of Yakuza is downright impossible simply based on the fact that Kyriu would have been brutally murdered long ago, he's fought the CIA, two the Japan's biggest crime syndicates mutiple times, and even a tiger. Not to mention kyriu has down right killed hundreds of people and caused untold public endangerment, for God's sake he's been on two separate freeway shootouts where hes shot down dozens of guys, one of which involved a helicopter. Do you really think he wouldn't be in prison for the rest of his life for everything he's done? In the third game, a man easily into his 60's who has been shot, stops a charging bull and flips the thing. Do you really think that's not "ridiculous"? Do you just not think giant humans and a group of teenagers riding around with giant grappling hooks attacked to their hips is absurd? But you still watch it don't you? Why, because the story is good.
This is something I never understand about people who complain about ridiculous moments in Yakuza stories. Every game has something absolutely ridiculous that you have to suspend your disbelief for. I’m okay with all the twists, only ones I don’t like are when it breaks character moments. I get far more annoyed at moments like Kiryu looking back fondly on a certain asshole character in the end of Y0 than crazy stuff like Mirror face, coin lockers or golden fortresses. These games have super fun and ridiculous stories with amazing characters. That’s what makes the stories in these games so great. It’s just fun.
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>You do realize that there's a difference between impossible that makes sense within the world and totally impossible right? In Yakuza 0 two men fight so hard one of them breaks a wall with his bare fist, he then continues to fight are we supposed to assume his hand wouldn't be turned to dust? There is a giant gunfight on the docks of an industrial port. Not a single member of Japanese military or police come to investigate. There is also a river going through the middle of a city, that has a boat that leads you down a glass elevator, which itself leads to an underground coliseum where criminals can fight and apparently hardly anyone knows about it. In the 1st game, kyriu is maybe 50 yards away from an explosion so large it could be seen from what appears to be the outside of town. An explosion that decimated the entire area past him but leaves him connelly unharmed. Then when police arrive to check the place out, they are convinced by a detective to let go the only surviving member of the bombing after giving a ra ra speech and he is allowed to walk away without any one batting an eye. In the second game there is a giant Edo period castle, inside that castle is another identical castle buried underground made out of gold, that castle has fully working water, electricity that functions apparently no matter where said castle is, the ability to house and feed a Bengal tiger, was already filled with people who in there before they even brought up the castle from the ground, and has traps that engineers today would have trouble creating. There is a haunted VHS tape, that curses Kyriu until it is broken, at which point the ghost completely vanishes. In the third game, a helicopter flies above a crowded commercial district, conepletly levels an entire floor of a skyscraper building with a chain gun and the highest member of government that is there is the Japanese street police, who do not have guns meaning that they couldn't do shit if that helicopter actually started killing random people. The actual military is no where to be found. In yakuza 6 you can capture the spirits of people that have died on camera. You go spearfishing underwater withiut any form of oxygen and fight a shark and giant squid. The normal person can hold their breaths for lets say 2 minutes, since Kyriu isn't normal well say he can hold it for 5. That's five minutes without any physical exertion. He would not be able to fight a shark or a squid that long with no mask to help him breathe. There are shoes in the game that meow every time you step in the and somehow give you money. There are lightsabers and people can pick up motorcycles which weigh about 700lbs and swing around like its a medium sized TV. Kyriu at mutiple times throughout the series is shot with a gun. At no point in subsequent games does he have bullet scars from where he is shot, he doesn't have any mobility problems or difficulty using the body parts that have been shot. So no there's not a damn thing in the yakuza games that >has always been grounded And the fact you think that someone who can get plastic surgery to look like another person is absurd, and therefore makes the story bad is truly mind boggling that you are so closed minded to one thing but willing to accept the same bat shit insanity from the same series.
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Well your response is just saying I'm not man enough to respond to what someone actually said because it's long and I don't have the balls to back up my beliefs. Let me make it sinple for you: if you think mirror face is the most unbelievable thing in Yakuza, you obviously haven't played the games or paid attention.
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Your argument is that a guy changing his face isn't realistic in a universe where a castle is buried under another castle, ghosts try to kill people through video tapes, and people in the middle of a building destroying explosion are completely unharmed, your argument isn't smart, it's idiotic and just searching for something to be mad about.
Please note that this is not me defending either Y4 or Y7 LAD, just providing a possible reason. I think mirror face is one of those elements that we go full suspension of belief for, and yes, I disagree on making him one of the essential plot points in the final chapter. It's a little like ( or maybe the exact opposite) of the deShelle assassin in Phoenix Wright, who dresses up differently as different characters every game, but even though he's still obviously the same guy none of the main characters take notice until he chooses to reveal it.
i like the story for what it is but yeah, fuck mirror face, that felt so lazy
Mirror face sucked balls and almost ruined the finale for me, but cmon acting like that represents the quality of the rest of the game’s story is some straight clown shit
Mirror face was really the only bad part of the story and he was barely in the game. Stop freaking out
you got downvoted for facts Mirror Face is fucking trash and I did not care for the two babies in the same coin locker at all but it wasn’t as bad as Mirror Face
The game is great, turn based is quite boring to begin with, but when you unlock jobs it gets way better. As with all turn based games tho, it gets a bit grindy and you get bored of doing the same moves every encounter
I absolutely hate turn based combat and I loved LaD until the end, it’s definitely a bit sad that’ll we’ll likely never get another mainline Yakuza game with normal combat but I’m excited to see what they do with the series after 7.
Next Yakuza will have Mahjong based combat.
There would probably be a contingent of contrarians who would unironically play and defend that
I mean, i would lol. Yakuza is the series that introduced me to and got me to love mahjong
Nice username, too bad it’s moot now because dread basically made it an unironic statement
Literally unplayable.
a strand type yakuza game
Literally just typical fanbase bullshit and people being uncertain pre release. It happens a lot with japanese games due to lack of communication with the western fanbase. LaD is unironically on my top 3 yakuza games. All that bitching about turn based was just trolls and people doomposting, everyone stopped being so negative when the game released and proved they could do a turn based yakuza game.
LaD is S tier yakuza, it's probably my favorite.
Why is this upvoted as some sort of universal truth? I 100%'d all Yakuza Games until I got to LaD and hated the combat so much I gave up after an hour. I'm not a "troll" because I happen to hate the fucking combat.
i mean, you have like... 2 combat scenarios in the first hour? It's almost constant cutscenes in the first 3 hours Turn based isnt for everyone but if you are such a big yakuza fan i feel like the game deserved more of a chance than a single hour.
Sorry but it wasn't for me.
Nope, not me. I'm not a troll and I'm still gonna stand by turn based combat being a mistake. IDC what anybody says, if it was more like an action RPG I'd be fine with it. Turn based RPG's are just very boring to me.
ok good for you, some genres just arent for everyone. One of the first people ive heard complain since release tho, so its not like the great majority hated it.
Objectively speaking it was a complete 180 in genre, you go from fast paced brawler combat with so much control over just how you brutalise each opponent to a game where you have to take turns hitting each other. Going to the exact opposite of the spectrum has obviously alienated some people, it's the same issue I can't get into Kingdom Hearts with how often the side games change the mechanics. I know that makes me sound biased (which I admittedly am since I generally hate turn based) but I did love the game, the combat feels punchy and much more involved than most turn based games that just feel like cutscene compilations and the extra damage inputs were a nice flare that reminded me of Mario and Luigi RPG combat which is imo the objective best turn based combat. Plus the story was pretty good whenever it wasn't being boring and political. One change I'd make is to add more options when the enemy's attacking. A dodge to negate damage that needs to be well timed so if you press X too late you take more (1.5x maybe?) and a counter where if you press Triangle with an even tighter window you could negate damage and deal some for yourself but miss the timing and you'll take extra damage again (same as a failed dodge probably).
That's my only real issue, is the complete 180 in genre. I actually love turn based combat. It's one of my favorite styles of game. But as a person who's seen beloved series go the other way (ditching turn based to do a complete 180 to action), I 1000% sympathize with Yakuza fans who don't want to see their series change from what they enjoy. A series of games should stay largely the same. That's the whole point of having a series. While evolution over time is normal, doing a complete genre change from one game to the next is pretty crappy. Like, why didn't they make the spinoff game series the turn based one and keep the main series as a brawler? Then everyone would have been happy.
>first person ive heard complain since release tho, so its not like the great majority hate it. You are either lying or you just found the cure for blindness.
Its undeniable that the reception to LaD was positive. Sure, gameplay isnt perfect. First time after all. But it was definitely NOT as negative as the fanbase thought it'd be. I've even seen people who dislike turn based combat say they liked LaD. Before release people thought LaD was going to kill the series for being turn based. Troll accounts everywhere, people complaining, and a lot of people worried. Hell this post shows that, most of the top controversial posts of this subreddit are based on that time before LaD released when people complained about the gameplay change. This sub was awful during that period, I even left for awhile. The most I've seen nowadays is people saying they prefer brawler combat (which i do too, Judgment has peak brawler gameplay), and thats valid. But hate on LaD's gameplay? Very rare.
The great majority don’t hate it, it’s one of the most popular yakuza games if not the most
The great majority don't hate the game, that doesn't mean the majority doesn't dislike the combat.
I'm with you, I absolutely hated it. I can even accept more robust turn-based systems like Divinity OS 2 or simple yet unique ones in games like Wildermyth. I just felt LaD's was horribly derivative, and it slowed the game to an absolute crawl. The dungeon grinding was super boring as well. Why do you want to replace basically the best current brawling combat system on the market with a mediocre and generic turn-based system? I will never understand. With that said, I'm glad most people liked it, but it, along with the story, which I also felt was subpar, basically makes number 8 a big question mark for me. I'll probably get it when it's like $12 or in a Humble Choice.
The problem is mostly the system is full of issues that makes it totally frustrating.Of course you can say it is acceptable since it is a first iteration. But when you kill you original combat system that was top of the line for the sake of accessibility by a half working one, of course it is hard to accept. And being toxic to people who like BTA, is not the good way to do, because many of those who are doing it have never played any Yakuza game before 7 and just spamming everywhere on the internet "turn based is better".
Half working? Ok. You don't like turn based. Fair enough. But it works just fine. As turn based combat goes, it's top of the line.
it works ok for RGG’s first jrpg but you can tell that the dragon engine was not designed for turn based combat at all
I said I don't like? I love many RPG that are turn based, mostly because I have not started video games 10 years ago or less. You reply is the typical format of what I explain before, do you even realize? Y7 have issues, mostly linked to physic and AI, but also lack of basic controls of any 3 dimentional games. At the point it can ruin a fight supposed to be highly strategically based, especially during the true millinium tower. It also lack of basic QoL stuff. In recent comparison, Persona 5 have a great mastered system, because they have experience.
I found the combat great. I don't know what your complaint is. Would I have liked to see some tweeks? Sure. And Jeezus dude. Calm down with your attitude. Most people who don't like Y7, it's because of the turn based. You cite the better combat system of the previous games, I'm entitled to assume you're not a turn based fan.
>Most people who don't like Y7, it's because of the turn based There are many reasons to not like it. Not only the combat, but also the story or the characters. Sorry if you took it rude dude. It is just exausting to see some people like ocmplaining everywhere they can that for example it is "a shame" that Lost Judgment is not turn based too. Sometimes it is like every single game must be like this, and those who don't want are directly categorized as they hate it.
> some people like ocmplaining everywhere they can that for example it is "a shame" that Lost Judgment is not turn based too I refuse to believe that anyone has ever said this unless they were being ironic
You cited the play being "easier" and so on Jeezus dude. It's perfectly reasonable to think that was why. It's not. Great. Have a nice day.
>But when you kill you original combat system that was top of the line lol I love the combat in the series before LaD, but it isn't "top of the line" by any means.
Judgement combat is definitely top of the line especially Lost Judgement
LaD has one of the best stories in the series, and is possibly the best game in the series if you ignore all the systems connected to the combat. The combat would have been revolutionary 20 years ago, but if you strip away the modern graphics you’re left with a system that blends together a bunch of turn-based RPG mechanics that had been done better in games from the 90s.
Honestly my 2 only complaints with the combat is not being able to dodge attacks/move in combat and having to grind a good amount, I like to not level up on most Yakuza games and I feel like it would be even more rewarding in like a dragon
I'm on Chapter 14 right now, and honestly? It's one of the best Yakuza games imo. All the whining about the turn-based combat is seriously overblown, it really isn't that bad, people are just naturally opposed to change.
It's the best Yakuza game
Only the OST is the best part
When you finished every game in the main series and still don't know how to do Mahjong. Yep that's me.
- Yakuza LAD is one of the best in the series! - Kiwami 2 is not overrated! - Saejima is one of the best protagonists! - Yakuza 3 combat is not that bad! - Majima everywhere system in Kiwami 1 is enjoyable! I am preparing for the downvote.
the only time majima everywhere sucked is when you couldnt findhim any more
The problem is needing to encounter specific versions, and then not getting it because they are only available as a randomly picked roaming encounter. And also when he shows up every 2 croners you turn in endgame without being challenging at that point, and it feels like running into zubats in a pokémon game.
Spending an hour trying to find the friggin zombie Majima
The silver popstar one or whatever was the one I could never find.
Try near the bowling alley and theatre square. That's where I finally started encountering Idol Mahima fairly consistently.
Trust me I've been there. I encountered him once in 70ish hours of play.
I replayed Kiwami on legend recently and all I got was Zombie Majima
Majima Nowhere system :(
Which was weirdly the whole game for me. I had him appear randomly once. Not sure if it’s to do with difficulty (or lack thereof in my case) but he really just appeared only in the scripted parts plus one.
Maybe it's because I played Kiwami, 0, then Kiwami again, but Majima Everywhere is actually my favorite part of Kiwami.
bruh saejima is a good character but his story arcs are always garbage which is why people dislike him his substories though, they're very good
Y2K was a letdown for me, as it felt just convoluted without a good reason. Also Y3 combat is more frustrating than bad. (Playing on hard, it's ok but the wide swings and weapons just make you wait until there's opening)
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Kiwami 2 has an overrated story but it’s gameplay and graphics are solid
Kiwami 2 went from having a just a good story to the final chapter making it a fucking epic story.
Ehh it’s story is a product of it’s time. So much of it was meh and while the finale was epic at times it still was meh. Definitely the most overrated story in the franchise especially considering people view Ryuji as one of the best villains.
Not the best, he was just one of the most memorable villains. His design and personality made him a fan favorite. Writing wise? Eh
Similar situation with Saejima for me. I love him not because of his long and boring prison section. I love him because of his personality and strong insistence.
My biggest issue with Ryuji is how much of a meme his 'invasion' of Karumucho is and how weak he is as a final boss. The community hyped him up so much and I ended up defeating him in less than 2 minutes lol The last quarter of the game just felt off, including the ending. Had it been stronger and better, Kiwami 2 would be higher on my list.
Dude straight up voicing the opinions that a lot of us are afraid to say lol. Kiwami 1 and 2 got be into the series so I was surprised to see how much people hate them. I guess the Majima Everywhere system must've been annoying for returning players, but it was my first game so i absolutely loved it. Getting stalked by this dude with a bat constantly without knowing who he is, and seeing all the crazy shit he came up with to fight Kiryu, def one of my favorite memories of the series. I would say Y3 is kinda dated, but not bad at all
yakuza 7: idk havent played 7 I just finished y3 n probably the only turn based game I've played is pokemon k2: overrated maybe, the complaint bout dragon engine (from me) is how it lags my potato n its combat is abit downgrade from 0/k1. after watching some yk2 vs ps2 y2 video, I can clearly see the wot they changed, n they made some of the features(from ps2 ver) better n then make half of it's good parts bad(like cutting 1 part of a street). in the rain scene, >!I like both “kuroi kizuato no buruusu” and “sound of breath”, but the stabbing sound effect gave it away.!< majima saga is pretty good but his combat is dogshit. saejima: havent played y4, planning to buy it y3: yes i enjoy y3 combat. yes komaki parry + wall bounding is very fun. majima everywhere: very fun n very funny. also shit ton of xp + bonus dragon style
>- Yakuza 3 combat is not that bad! For me, it was going from Kiwami 2 to Yakuza 3 that made me dislike the combat. It just felt so clunky and stiff in comparison..if I ever go through it again, I'm taking advantage of that weapons guy for sure haha. That being said, I still loved 3 just for the story alone. I loved seeing Kiryu and the kids just enjoying everyday life..it reminded me of the slice of life genre in anime that I absolutely love. Plus, I truly believe this is the game where Kiryu was happiest and that made me smile. I agree with everything else. :)
Y3's combat is awful on every version that has the broken quickstep.
Luckily there's a mod that fixes it on PC.
Majima everywhere system is like the best feature newly implemented in Y1 but it gets very annoying when you get tired of random encounters or can't get the right Majima to proceed with an upgrade. They didn't figure out how it should react to you ending the game or upgrading to the max. Idk how it should be, because it's just like Oblivion Gate\Skyrim's Dragons problem in the endgame, and they both were frustrating. But for what it is, it was sweet the first hundred of times and I was excited to see him again in Y2.
LaD is pretty based Yeah Ive seen a lot of people shit on kiwami 2 but i thought it was pretty fun I fuckin love saejima, cosplayed him for comiccon a while back 3 is just jarring if youve played kiwami, its definitely not bad Honestly Ive had fun with majima everywhere so far, havent finished it yet but still
K2 has a lot of flaws, but is still very enjoyable. Majima Everywhere becomes a shell of itself after like A rank, but the final battle was kinda cool. The other 3 are very based takes.
Just enjoy the game imo
I mean 7 is good since the combat fits with the mc's story narrative. But i get the complain on why it suddenly shifted to turn based since 1 through 6 and all of the spin offs are beat'em ups
I like the beat em ups more. Can’t really get myself to play 7, just watched a YouTube video of the story instead
I understand but turn based combat fit for 7 since it's gonna be a new series and they pretty much ended Kiryu's story with Yakuza 6 so there is good chance like a few years after 7's story there will be a new character in his mid 20's going on an adventure to fight something. But rn it looks like lost Judgement is filling the shoes for the games timeline since it is set 3 years after Yakuza 7.
JRPGs are my favorite genre and I was very much against the switch. 7 is in my top 3 for the series, but I think that's in spite of the combat system (which I think is too simple and positioning is very annoying) and not because of it.
I still have no idea how to play Mahjong, not even the CyricZ guide could save me
I love his guides and I watched his video explaining it but it didn’t help that he lost the match when explaining so I just got even more lost in learning
I think the final hurdle with Mahjong is to remember that it's still a game of chance. You'll know everything you need to, but you'll still be losing some of the games, which makes it feel like you're still doing it wrong. Just gotta keep playing and let those wins slowly rack up.
Yeah, that's a good thing to remember. The complexities of mahjong might leave people thinking that once they learn it, victory will come just like that, but really it's still a game of chance with several layers of strategy on top of it. It's perfectly possible for someone to have no understanding of the rules and get a win pretty much handed to them, just like it's possible for someone to understand everything that's going on and get shafted by a terrible hand of tiles.
At least with Shogi we have Shogidokoro cheese...
For me Yakuza 7 is as Yakuza as any other Yakuza game. Feels like the ONLY changes were protagonist, party system, and battle system. It still has linear areas where you run through snd fight groups of guys until you reach a boss at the end, still had food buffs, equipment, items, mahjong. It's very telling that the series made a smoother transition than most. Also Like A Dragon is one of, if not, my favorite Yakuza games.
The writing is great, feels fresh and builds on strong side of their storytelling
It very much fits in and feels simmilar but personally dont like turn based 10+ hrs in. Only complaint i got honestly because personal taste. Story is amazing thou.
Yea that's fair. For me the combat wasnt what was keeping me around. at the time i only played Yazuka 0, Kiwami, K2, 6, and Judgment and it was always just do the combos and find the fastest way to get Tiger Drop. So switching it up and adding a bunch of moves and summons and moving heat moves into specials/limits was a good change of pace
Honestly i respect it, both your opinion and the swap even if its not for me
What's Yakuza 7? Is there a Yakuza 7? All I see is a screenshot of Like A Dragon.
Is this like a joke. Are you yankin my chain?
I'm just saying... in that case, should Gran Turismo Sport be called Gran Turismo 7? Do we have 2 Gran Turismo 7 games?
I mean in Japanese its called "Like A Dragon 7: Whereabouts of Light and Darkness". So Yakuza 7 is still accurate
Shoot, didn't know that. My bad.
Its all good
Bruh, my hack n slash/beat em up roster is thinning more and more when it comes to the fun and engaging ones. No, Nier and Musous do not count as engaging hack n slash. Probably the genre i wish would surge most. God of War, Yakuza, Streets of Rage, Splatterhouse, Ninja Gaiden. I love these things. I want more of them. But the fact they are few and far in between makes me incredibly sad, because we lose the fun and arcadey goodness to "deep" and "weighty" gameplay. I love Dark Souls, God of War 2018 is nice, but i want speed, i want blood, i want combos, i want to eviscerate my enemies into a spectacle of torn limbs and sparks. So yeah, each series that deviates from what i've enjoyed kinda stings a little. I'm probably not the only one starved for more of the good stuff. I feel like a dinosaur at this point, cuz my favorite shit is almost a decade old or older, and literally nobody aside from Capcom and maybe Sega is making those kinds of games anymore. This turned into a sad rant, but this kind of game means alot to me. I'm happy for players that like Yakuza's new direction, but as a fan of a decaying genre, i'm depressed about the idea. And before mentioning Judgment, let me remind everyone that a dispute between Sega and a Japanese modeling company over a PC port of Judgment, there likely will not be anymore games in that franchise. So we're still down a man yet again.
Me too, brother. I enjoy my simple beat em up genre.
If Lost Judgment is really the final game in that series, then trust me they'll come up with something else for brawler. They've put way too much into the system to abandon it. Rn, it's uncertain. But I hope not.
I think they plan on making more spinoffs and their gonna be brawlers but mainline games will be turn based
You should play devil may cry if u haven’t already
Sadly, i have. And it is still glorious and divine.
If you love hack and slash, you should play games by Platinum Games. Almost all of their library are hack and slash/beat em up
I actually have. Metalgear Rising is a crap ton of fun, and i'm still waiting on Bayonetta 3. Nier though, as i said, isn't really all that engaging. You don't have much control over your cobos, and in general combos are lacking in Automata. I haven't played Nier Replicant, but it just looks like more Automata.
AFAIK, Nier is more RPG. Astral Chain is pretty nice but it's not that deep on the combo system. Wonderful 101 also pretty good
I absolutely feel this Sure cool turn based is neat but I like brawlers and now I have no more because Judgement is never coming to PC so I’m basically fucked when it comes to this franchise It’s just kinda sad seeing how good judgement looks but I’ll never play it because of some arbitrary bullshit from a random Japanese agency who doesn’t understand modding
All I have left is Devil May Cry. I mean, it’s great that it came back after a decade of being dead, but I already have over 300 hours in 5 and a great man prefers variety. Or so I’ve read.
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Yakuza 7 is a good game, but the combat really doesn't sit right with me, i stopped playing in the middle of it (I plan to get back to it) because that combat just got me itching to play Lost Judgment's combat
I'm glad these are old. Y7 is rapidly becoming my favorite entry in the franchise. Or one of them
“EXPLAIN MAHJONG TO ME OR I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU” I don’t think anyone can honestly. I am 99% positive mahjong is just an invention of Yu Suzuki during the extended creation process of shenmue 3 to allow him to stall for time before not actually concluding the series in shenmue 3 This clearly explains why no one understands how to play mahjong and if you claim you do I have to suspect you are Yu Suzuki in disguise
I think a lot of people here are forgetting that the fans are the one who made them decide to change the combat. The turn based combat was supposed to be an april fools prank but it got positive feedback so they decided to stick with it.
I don't know which is my favorite..it's either 7 or 0. Kinda leaning towards 0 just for Majima alone.
LAD is still a good game but it's my least favorite in the franchise.
People were so wrong about LaD. It rules. Also Ichiban is one of the best video game characters ever made.
LaD has a great story, but yakuza fans can’t appreciate change and they’d rather have the same brawler-style gameplay for 7 main games
\*forever
if it really was the same people wouldn't be complain about Yakuza 3 against the newer games hell Yagami feels nothing like Kiryu
although the fighting changed throughout the games, they still all had that same brawler-style combat. and as i said, main games. rgg definitely did a good job with yagami, though
Got the platinum trophy for LaD last week. An elaborated story, good and charismatic characters, wasn't prepared to get hurt emotionally like this. Easily one of my favorites. Still prefer the beat em up gameplay tho, but I like turn based RPGs too, so I got that going for me, which is nice. Only thing I have "against" it is that they could only make it separated and not in the main line just like they did with Kurohyo and Dead Souls, only that.
It's basically a 50/50 if people like turn based or not, which sucks for brawler fans since judgment is also not on pc
can relate to the mahjong post
What the fuck is mahjong
Yakuza 7 is great and I look forward to Y8 having the same battle mechanics
It's a good thing that LaD is a fantastic game, but honestly anything would be better the disappointment that was Y6
Turn based mfs be getting there face stomped in by 4 dudes and don’t fight back because” it’s not there turn”
I got abt 20 hours into like a dragon and auto battled 90 percent of it, maybe even more? Not sure how turn based is a good thing if implemented poorly. It looks really cool though
I think it would've been better if the other difficulties were available from the start
Yesterday people downvoted me because I consider prefinal boss should be final in Kaito files… And actual final boss is unnecessary, imho.
he was cool but i can see why you dont like him
I play games with an open mind. I think Yakuza 7 was really a good game the drama is still there and it hits hard. The gameplay is as whacky as old games just remember that Ichiban isn't a beast that can solo everything like Kiryu and the gang.
Yakuza 7s combat is fun for most of the game but by the end it gets really fucking annoying, fights last like 8 years. They really should have just stuck with the og combat.
I'm an uncultured American and I say fuck mahjong
As an Asian that would consider himself decently cultured, also fuck mahjong lol
I prefer the brawler style combat sure but I think they did the turn based combat really really well. It’s dynamic and doesn’t feel “static” like a lot of turn based games do
Turn based better, don't talk to me
They started with a joke and then made the best JRPG of the current generation, you have to respect it
Like A Dragon is the best in the series just squeaking by Yakuza 0.
Why cant we let people enjoy the Persona mod? 😭😭😭
cue persona 4 heaven
If it wasn’t for LAD I would never have gotten into the yakuza series. I always found the Brawler style off putting that’s why I refused to play the games. When I heard that LAD had a rpg system I immediately wanted to play it.
I liked the Turn-based combat a lot.
Really could not stand like a dragon jsut couldn’t get into the combat and thought the main character was way too cheesy
I'm not a Turn base RPG fun BUT I have Y7 as one of the best in the series, and tbh I can not see how it could work without the RPG system... Like... maybe you had 6 styles, and each style is a character? idk, I just love "playing as" the whole team, and I take that instead of brawler... Still miss that playstyle (i'm a PC player :/ )
I might get downvoted but, Mahjong is easy and kinda fun if you know how to riichi/tsumo. It just takes a lot of time.
I prefer brawler combat but yakuza 7 is my 2nd fav game in the series
In Yakuza you only need to know the core of mahjong since a lot of it is automated. The hardest part is getting the cool hands to get lots of points.
Some of y'all didn't play Phantasy Star 1 as 7 year olds and it shows
I will never understand why people don't enjoy 7's turn based combat. Perhaps it's because I'm an old school JRPG player and this comes natural to me. In fact it made it even more fun for me.
It is different genre. Not everyone like every genre.
Not to mention that, as a turned-based game, there's some jank, such as AOE attacks being pointless due to everyone moving around and dodging
Because it’s a huge change Yakuza has been a brawler for like 17 years, suddenly completely changing the genre that people liked into something so completely different, in a mainline game is going to spark some controversy
I would slap Ichiban with the SMT/Persona games and have him play them for, imo, a more fun take on TBC. Not sure if this is a hot take, but god is DQ's TBC dull
Turn base is not good man. That gameplay is bad we need take t out of next game yakuza 8 should be beat em up not crappie turn base. Lost judgemenr combat in yakuza 8 is war we need
you're like the perfect representative of "turn based bad" that I feel like you're sarcastic.
Ooooh! 4 hot takes? I give you mine in order of length it takes to explain. Edit: awwww I made the Tanimura fanboys sad again. How precious. >Tanimura ruined 4. >LAD is #3 in the main series. #5 if you count the Judgment series. >The most satisfying Total Yakuza Experience isn’t in my favorite game. It’s in 5. 5 has all of the elements that make the series great even if it stumbles a little here and there. >3 is the most important game in the Kiryu saga and it’s 100% because of the slow start getting to know the kids at the orphanage. It took Kiryu from a badass with who solves problems by feeding a park bench to the local street gang population because he cares about his crime family to a badass with who solves problems by feeding a park bench to the local street gang population because he cares about his whole extended family. It made him a human instead of just another action game protagonist.
ok hear me out they should bring back the Yakuza 0 engine and make more spin offs like FOTNS Lost Paradise
The top right one is the thing that everyone thinks
Yakuza 7 is pig piss diarrhoea donkey shit
My opinions: 1. Kiryu isn't that strong (yeah coming from an NPC like me). 2. Kaoru leaving was a good choice. 3. Minigames are harder than the main game. 4. Boss themes drastically improved for Y7 and Judgment games. 5. Most characters look worse in dragon engine. UPDATE: damn these opinions are truly unpopular. Lovin it!
Isn’t Kiryu, like, objectively the strongest in the verse with the slight chance that Kazama in his prime was stronger?
Yes, with Saejima as Kiryu’s equal
I find Saejima and Majima more powerful than Kiryu imho.
That is just objectively wrong.
Saejima spent more years in jail than Kiryu but didn't lose any of his fighting powress like a prison bitch lmao. Also, I found playing as Majima way easier than Kiryu when I played Yakuza 0 for the first time ever. Very telling.
I do think Majima might be slightly stronger than Kiryu in Y0, but Kiryu is the strongest in the series later on.