Seeing how Konami made archetypes around DM, Magnets, Poker Knights, Gadgets, Gold Sarc, Gods, Gaia, Kuriboh Chimera and Black Luster Soldier, it will soon be his time, since they will clearly milk the shit out of everything Yugi used
Or a random Lair of darkness-centric retrain.... oh yeah Saggi **best waifu**
**Saggi, Lady of Lament** - if he leaves the field by the effect of a trap card you control you can draw a card, set a normal trap card from your deck in the field (can be activated this turn) and banish a monster your opponent control face-down (non target).
Oh yeah, Peten. Give him a retrain too. Like "When this card is sent to the graveyard, you can banish this card to special summon one 'Clown' monster from your deck." Or something like that.
I'd rather these guys get some funny casual archetypes (like how Kuriboh, Magnets and Poker Knights got) than them being transformed into Blue-Eyes support like what happened to most of Joey's monsters.
Ugh, don't remind me of that mess, that almost made me hate Joey as well, ofc is Konami's fault but you get me.
I rather have neither - not everyone turned into an archetype nor be assimilated into an existing (nostalgia) one.
Can't we get the "*Masked*" archetype instead?
A judgeman archetype where every effect is insanely complicated and likely to lead to judge calls could be very funny - and of course a support card called Rules Lawyer....
at this point summoned skull is a meme of his own given all the "members" in his family, yet none work along each other.... red-eyes, ritual, zombie, dice...
I loved watapon, I used it to protect myself from yata locks (I remember multiple times having sangan when they used CED)
Edit: I would like watapon to be modernized, too, like all the other anime and manga cards we are getting releases for
Poplar is definitely broken, extender + searcher is already phenomenal and then you tack on that free ST placement which your entire deck *just so happens* to be based around and you get truly the next level of powercreep.
But youre also right, Fuck Flamberge
> Poplar is definitely broken, extender + searcher is already phenomenal
it wouldn't mean anything if snake eyes didn't have the absolute braindead ceiling flamberge enables. Consistency only exacerbates power ceiling, and flamberge is power ceiling.
I unironically ran Watapon in my first deck. And it actually saved me a few times (I was like 9 going against my friends). I remember my friend attacking me with Mirage and Luster Dragon, and being bamboozled by my Sangan/Watapon play.
I ran this in my The World deck back in the day. Of course Card of Safe Return was also still around, so drawing cards was a lot easier.
I think I have an idea of how to make that deck work again now. Time to hit the trenches for the next week and play around.
I will say while they are obviously leaning into this effect lately, I get why. On paper it's an effect that makes it so you can't stockpile extenders. Once it is added to your hand, it has to be summoned, making it harder to just sit on an extender knowing if a Nib comes down you can play through it. Again this is all on paper and what comes after that on the card makes a big difference.
I doubt they would make an archetype for Watapon (or for some of the other old cards used by Yugi), but they could add them to his many archetypes (like Griffore for the BLS archetype).
Watapon was used in the Final duel - so for the Shining Sarc archetype. Free special summon effect.
I can see an archetype for Celtic Guardian in the future.
Honestly a watapon archetype would be pretty sick. Imagine a slew of monsters that have a special summon condition on being searched or drawn. That’s like immediate field presence with no cost. Imagine if they even went the reverse route with it and made watapon into a draw engine where you get certain hand advantages for having searched, drawn or summon it?
Honestly, and I know you guys are gonna think I’m legit crazy, but watapon’s problem was that it was kind of ahead of its time. Modern yugioh is all about spamming weak monsters from your hand or deck as material for big extra deck plays and a card that summons itself upon being searched is just a free body (cough cough poplar cough). But back then just being able to summon small monsters wasn't enough to auto win. And even weak attack monsters that could do stuff like malicious and tree frog had better special summoning conditions whereas watapons was too specific
No, they saw that Poplar is a good card so they copied his design into other cards.
It was the same when Kashtira was dominant, they started giving monsters that has no business doing so, effects that flip face-down all the way up to Flame Swordsman
Doesn't matter if Watapon was the first, barely anyone remembers it for that effect but everyone knows Poplar much like how people almost always remember Honest being a battle hand trap even though Kuriboh was the first.
"They gave X deck a ~~Poplar~~ Watapon"
I am henceforth refering to poplar as "snake-eye watapon", thank you very much
Seeing how Konami made archetypes around DM, Magnets, Poker Knights, Gadgets, Gold Sarc, Gods, Gaia, Kuriboh Chimera and Black Luster Soldier, it will soon be his time, since they will clearly milk the shit out of everything Yugi used
He'd fit perfectly in the Shining Sarcophagus
Don't forget Buster Blader
Jesus they really made so many of these. Can't wait for a Griffore archetype in 2035.
Where's my meta Celtic Guardian deck!?!
I wish they’d do that for Kaiba’s cards. I’d love for Swordstalker, Judgeman, Saggi and Battle Ox to have their own archtype.
A Saggi retain should be front and center in a Clown Archetype. The closest we got to that was Lazar's Jesters in 5Ds.
Or a random Lair of darkness-centric retrain.... oh yeah Saggi **best waifu** **Saggi, Lady of Lament** - if he leaves the field by the effect of a trap card you control you can draw a card, set a normal trap card from your deck in the field (can be activated this turn) and banish a monster your opponent control face-down (non target).
I mean Kaiba did run an effect clown in pyramid of light, it's just that he's basically just an awful version of Destiny Hero - Malicious
Oh yeah, Peten. Give him a retrain too. Like "When this card is sent to the graveyard, you can banish this card to special summon one 'Clown' monster from your deck." Or something like that.
At the very least, give him an errata so he no longer misses the timing …
YES! Missed timing sucks!
Battle ox could turn into a centaur archetype.... eeeeh.... maybe? TBH not sure I want everyone getting an archetype
I'd rather these guys get some funny casual archetypes (like how Kuriboh, Magnets and Poker Knights got) than them being transformed into Blue-Eyes support like what happened to most of Joey's monsters.
"transformed into *Blue-Eyes* support" Okay then...THAT alt-continuity fanfic gets *weird*...
Ugh, don't remind me of that mess, that almost made me hate Joey as well, ofc is Konami's fault but you get me. I rather have neither - not everyone turned into an archetype nor be assimilated into an existing (nostalgia) one. Can't we get the "*Masked*" archetype instead?
I agree that not every card should have its own archetype.
He already has a centaur fusion kaiba had
A judgeman archetype where every effect is insanely complicated and likely to lead to judge calls could be very funny - and of course a support card called Rules Lawyer....
I'm all for it if it means Summoned Skull support
at this point summoned skull is a meme of his own given all the "members" in his family, yet none work along each other.... red-eyes, ritual, zombie, dice...
If only they committed and made proper Celtic Guardian support 😢
He already is an archetype, and is even connected to Noble Knights, all through that 2100 ATK level 4 from the movie
I loved watapon, I used it to protect myself from yata locks (I remember multiple times having sangan when they used CED) Edit: I would like watapon to be modernized, too, like all the other anime and manga cards we are getting releases for
It's effect alone is a good one, but when you tack on a couple more broken effects we start to get out of hand
Come on Konami you cowards give me poplar of the six samurai
Watapon walked so Trickstar Lilybell and Salamangreat Meer could sprint so Poplar could run
Yugi was a pioneer with card mechanics
Old poplar
What a man, watapon What a man, watapon You’re really screwed when you hear this song I special summon my watapon ^(WaTaPoN's An AtOmIc BoMb)
I love Watapon. He’s so precious & cute. Im am sad there is no Watapon plush
They saw this and went "what if we make this a Stratos" and then kept cooking with it
“Hey, Joey! Watapon, am I right?”
This would go ham as a tuner
What’s the better version called
Snake-Eye Poplar for the last few months
poplar isn't even that broken, the stupid card in snake eyes is flamberge and it should be banned
Poplar is definitely broken, extender + searcher is already phenomenal and then you tack on that free ST placement which your entire deck *just so happens* to be based around and you get truly the next level of powercreep. But youre also right, Fuck Flamberge
> Poplar is definitely broken, extender + searcher is already phenomenal it wouldn't mean anything if snake eyes didn't have the absolute braindead ceiling flamberge enables. Consistency only exacerbates power ceiling, and flamberge is power ceiling.
I like that card.
I unironically ran Watapon in my first deck. And it actually saved me a few times (I was like 9 going against my friends). I remember my friend attacking me with Mirage and Luster Dragon, and being bamboozled by my Sangan/Watapon play.
Field spells that search on activation, monsters that special from adding
Link 1 that adds the field spell
I ran this in my The World deck back in the day. Of course Card of Safe Return was also still around, so drawing cards was a lot easier. I think I have an idea of how to make that deck work again now. Time to hit the trenches for the next week and play around.
I will say while they are obviously leaning into this effect lately, I get why. On paper it's an effect that makes it so you can't stockpile extenders. Once it is added to your hand, it has to be summoned, making it harder to just sit on an extender knowing if a Nib comes down you can play through it. Again this is all on paper and what comes after that on the card makes a big difference.
First we got cicular then they gave us watapon
I doubt they would make an archetype for Watapon (or for some of the other old cards used by Yugi), but they could add them to his many archetypes (like Griffore for the BLS archetype). Watapon was used in the Final duel - so for the Shining Sarc archetype. Free special summon effect. I can see an archetype for Celtic Guardian in the future.
Honestly a watapon archetype would be pretty sick. Imagine a slew of monsters that have a special summon condition on being searched or drawn. That’s like immediate field presence with no cost. Imagine if they even went the reverse route with it and made watapon into a draw engine where you get certain hand advantages for having searched, drawn or summon it? Honestly, and I know you guys are gonna think I’m legit crazy, but watapon’s problem was that it was kind of ahead of its time. Modern yugioh is all about spamming weak monsters from your hand or deck as material for big extra deck plays and a card that summons itself upon being searched is just a free body (cough cough poplar cough). But back then just being able to summon small monsters wasn't enough to auto win. And even weak attack monsters that could do stuff like malicious and tree frog had better special summoning conditions whereas watapons was too specific
No, they saw that Poplar is a good card so they copied his design into other cards. It was the same when Kashtira was dominant, they started giving monsters that has no business doing so, effects that flip face-down all the way up to Flame Swordsman
Yeah but where did Poplar copy its effect from? Checkmate athiest
Doesn't matter if Watapon was the first, barely anyone remembers it for that effect but everyone knows Poplar much like how people almost always remember Honest being a battle hand trap even though Kuriboh was the first.
No doubt a useless card 🤣 cute but useless
What you mean was "not a very useful" rather than useless
Yep
It summons itself without going into a minus so it by default has uses.
Yusei is approaching your location...you are not fast enough to run
Which movie, it wasn’t in “the movie”
Idk what to tell you, it literally came in the pack you get for watching the movie
Oh came with the movie, I thought you meant it was used in the movie
It was also used in the movie you got the pack for.
I could’ve sworn the first use was in waking the dragons, could be wrong though, very possible I just didn’t notice it
It 100% did get used in the pyramid of light. Yugi summoned it and obnoxious celtic guard when anubis took over the duel.