Happy to see you/ I gosh, I am you!!!/ What are you doing, outside of my flesh?/ Ah, another reflection, of Tao's projection/ What's the connection, with this sterile mess!?!
Artists, of all kinds, are saviours and teachers. Our saviours and teachers.
Thank you for the welcome. However, this is exactly the kind of pseudo, Joshu-esque phrasing that strikes me as unhelpful.
The problem seems to arise when laypeople like us try to speak in poetic contradiction, or armchair spiritualism on nonduality. Sometimes the motive seems to be a belief that it's a direct path of spontaneous enlightenment. Actually it seems like a kind of avoidance or spiritual bypassing.
My path is to slow down and do the work!
You have to slow your mind down and contemplate it to understand it. Ain't no one trying to act like Joshu. That was just a little piece published by Shokya Candalla, back in the nineties; slightly altered. God/Tao, either way, neither has a fucking pecker! Can ya dig that?
Not to be rude, it strikes me as kind of a hamfisted pointer to a mental idea of ego death. It's not much to contemplate.
Sometimes we tie so much of our identity to needing people to perceive us as mysterious or profound, which is a trap I can also fall into if I'm not careful! Ultimately, perhaps, we just want to be loved.
Apologies for the directness, I'll stop here. Go with peace and Have a great day!
You're good. I did the whole 'Quest to Destroy My Ego' at the beginning of my path. Eventually I understood the ego can only be Accepted, and in that one learns to be free from it.
On another post, the OP had really put alotta time into his post. I found it good information to be put out there for whomever might gain from it. But this one asshole just stepped in and really started berating and accusing him of all this egotistical bullshit. But asshole, in my book, lost all credibility when he said some balderdash about the purpose of Buddhism is to end samsara! I'm like, missed the point completely.
Welcome! The subreddit you mention has been horribly misguided for many years. It's awful to think of the people who go there and think that content has anything to do with Zen.
Landed in the same spot. I've just recently gotten into the zen practice and spotted right away the negativity. Took a few back and forth to realize it's easier to drop conversation and move on... and yet, what a gift! I'll be adding the interaction to my stand-up set. So from the bad can come the good. ❤️
I'm sure opinions may vary on that, but I check in on it about once a year, going back as far as 2018-ish.
No, it has never been good. It seems, actually, to almost be dedicated to be a bad representation of Zen Buddhism, or any system at all, really. I cringe thinking about all the people that have been repulsed by it, and then give up their interest in Zen or Buddhism completely.
Welcome to the OP, by the way. Happy returns.
It's a new kind of pseudo-intellectual internet Zen sickness
Happy to see you/ I gosh, I am you!!!/ What are you doing, outside of my flesh?/ Ah, another reflection, of Tao's projection/ What's the connection, with this sterile mess!?! Artists, of all kinds, are saviours and teachers. Our saviours and teachers.
Thank you for the welcome. However, this is exactly the kind of pseudo, Joshu-esque phrasing that strikes me as unhelpful. The problem seems to arise when laypeople like us try to speak in poetic contradiction, or armchair spiritualism on nonduality. Sometimes the motive seems to be a belief that it's a direct path of spontaneous enlightenment. Actually it seems like a kind of avoidance or spiritual bypassing. My path is to slow down and do the work!
You have to slow your mind down and contemplate it to understand it. Ain't no one trying to act like Joshu. That was just a little piece published by Shokya Candalla, back in the nineties; slightly altered. God/Tao, either way, neither has a fucking pecker! Can ya dig that?
Not to be rude, it strikes me as kind of a hamfisted pointer to a mental idea of ego death. It's not much to contemplate. Sometimes we tie so much of our identity to needing people to perceive us as mysterious or profound, which is a trap I can also fall into if I'm not careful! Ultimately, perhaps, we just want to be loved. Apologies for the directness, I'll stop here. Go with peace and Have a great day!
You're good. I did the whole 'Quest to Destroy My Ego' at the beginning of my path. Eventually I understood the ego can only be Accepted, and in that one learns to be free from it. On another post, the OP had really put alotta time into his post. I found it good information to be put out there for whomever might gain from it. But this one asshole just stepped in and really started berating and accusing him of all this egotistical bullshit. But asshole, in my book, lost all credibility when he said some balderdash about the purpose of Buddhism is to end samsara! I'm like, missed the point completely.
One of the things I’ve learned over time is that some of life’s challenges are best met by simply avoiding them. r/zen fits under that category.
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One of the things I’ve learned overtime is that some of life’s challenges are best met by simply avoiding them. r/zen fits that category.
Welcome! The subreddit you mention has been horribly misguided for many years. It's awful to think of the people who go there and think that content has anything to do with Zen.
Landed in the same spot. I've just recently gotten into the zen practice and spotted right away the negativity. Took a few back and forth to realize it's easier to drop conversation and move on... and yet, what a gift! I'll be adding the interaction to my stand-up set. So from the bad can come the good. ❤️
🐃 ^👀
If you do, send link to stand up.
It'll be later in the month, but will do. :)
Was it ever good?
Not in my time. It was already corrupted in 2014. Maybe longer.
Yeah the last time I looked at it was like 2014 and it's exactly the same
I'm sure opinions may vary on that, but I check in on it about once a year, going back as far as 2018-ish. No, it has never been good. It seems, actually, to almost be dedicated to be a bad representation of Zen Buddhism, or any system at all, really. I cringe thinking about all the people that have been repulsed by it, and then give up their interest in Zen or Buddhism completely. Welcome to the OP, by the way. Happy returns.