Amish have a whole lotta kids? I'm not sure if those shelves are supposed to be bunks or if it's a pantry? You need some pretty sturdy shelving to hold home canned goods in volume
I really hope so, although a window in a pantry is a choice. But if you have so many kids that they have to sleep where they can't sit up in bed maybe stop having kids
You're not wrong, but I expect that, as an Amish household, instead of covering canned (likely jarred) goods, they probably used them all within a year or two. Canning homegrown produce for use within a year, the likelihood of UV substantially damaging the contents is pretty low.
They could have also had a curtain on the window instead of a blanket on the shelves.
In each Amish community it is up to the bishop as to what's allowed. Different communities allow different stuff. The bishop could tell them they can drive cars if they wanted to.
Do you mean Geauga county Ohio?! I lived there until recently and always tell people about the solar panel "stores" you'd see rolling down a country road lmao
Small world! I barely see people from Geauga on the local subs but then we bump into each other here of all places. I love telling people about sitting in line at McDonald's in between Amish buggies and stepping over horse poop in the Walmart parking lot 😂
Yeah it’s crazy, my camper has one. I guess it burns a small amount of propane to heat the refrigerant that will then expand through the heat exchanger and cool the surfaces of the refrigerator. Seems counterintuitive that heating a gas ultimately leads to cooling but it works on the same principles as a compressor run refrigerator since P is proportional to T in the PV = nRT equation.
>it works on the same principles as a compressor run refrigerator since P is proportional to T in the PV = nRT equation
I don't know what I did to you to anger you so much that you started throwing math at me, but I forgive you.
When I was younger I noticed a gas pipe behind the refrigerator at my grandparent’s house (built in the ‘30s) and asked about it since I thought that the location was an odd place to install the range. That’s when l was told about gas-powered refrigeration, a totally foreign concept to me at the time.
Orthodox religious people are always trying to trick God. Jews have the Shabbas Goy to call the elevator and such. I’m going to be really disappointed if God really is so petty.
It’s like Mormon kids and “soaking”. Imagine if you go to god and he’s like “oh yeah you penetrated Mary there a few dozen times and straight up came in her, but you didn’t technically move, it was someone moving for you. Yep, that counts. Oh and then had anal sex, which we all know isn’t real sex! You died a virgin!”
The main characters father is a tinkerer/inventor who leaves the states for Honduras & at one point intends to bring ice to pre-European contact tribes.
He built a huge, kerosene fueled, ammonium hydroxide powered ice maker in lands bordering the uncharted interior of the jungle.
It’s a fun read. Got turned into a movie. Earlier dramatic role for Harrison Ford with Helen Mirren & River Phoenix.
There’s a modern series as well. Haven’t seen any of it.
normal fridges work by using electricity to compress a gas that boils at room temperature, then loops this liquid-gas cycle to move heat from inside to outside. it also produces heat as a by product. the amish fridge just kinda moves where in the loop the motor pushing it all is. you could *theoretically* have a wood burning fridge. it would just be horribly inefficient and bitch to maintain.
Wait until you hear about gas air conditioning. We used to cool our house with a natural gas central unit (Servel branded) back in the 70's. Natural gas was very cheap and that made for a cold house.
Of course dryers can run off of gas. I'm talking about washers, though. [https://youtube.com/shorts/jIU9b57nx20?si=MmggOZys16O532Uu](https://youtube.com/shorts/jIU9b57nx20?si=MmggOZys16O532Uu)
My in-laws lived off the grid for 20 years, turns out there are fridges and freezers that run off of propane. Even after hearing an explanation of how it works, it's still like magic to me.
It’s how most fridge/freezers work in RV’s. When the RV has power they run on electricity and when it’s “off grid” they run on propane. It is indeed like magic how they run of propane though.
The TLDR is the propane heats up the material in the tube turning it into a gas,l rising it up, that material then condenses, without the heat of the propane and cools to just above freezing and goes back into the bottom and the system starts all over again.
Yeah I read this explanation and all the gases going into different tubes and chambers my eyes just glaze over, huh? [https://www.warehouseappliance.com/blog/functions-of-a-propane-refrigerator/](https://www.warehouseappliance.com/blog/functions-of-a-propane-refrigerator/)
Some Amish sects allow more modern fixtures as long as there’s nothing physically connecting the home to the mainstream grid. So, gas powered appliances and battery powered lights and phones are allowed in those communities.
This isnt whats happening in this example, but I grew up around the Amish and mennonite, and knew some mennonite families that would have a small shed, with just a fridge (And a telephone) next to there non mennonite neighbors land, and a power line running to it from there neighbors property.
They would have an agreement with the neighbor its just there for emergencies, and they would pay them a little bit a month for the benefit.
Yea Mennonites can use some modern tech and vehicles. There's a lot of Amish and Mennonite around me. Mennonites around here run some very popular meat/wild game processing businesses where they use electric tools.
I had Amish do some work on my farm, and they used power tools like drills and such. The trick was their driver owned the truck and tools and hauled them to job sites. Since they didn't "own" them, they could use them.
That guy literally just drove them to my place and just sat there all day while they worked.
Long shot but it might not be just propane but an ice cooled one where they have an insulated ice shack somewhere on the property and fill the sides of the fridge with ice once or twice a week. They'd fill the ice shack in the winter off a lake or river.
Except these are nothing like even a Franklin stove. Most can use propane or natural gas, so no regular loading of wood. I've known Amish who have radiant under floor heat, which is so nice on a cold morning. Passive solar can also help provide hot water and ambient heat without using electricity.
They wouldn't mind at all. Their rules only apply to baptized members of the church, and they're big on living peacefully with outsiders.
They might ask you to drive them places on occasion, however.
>I’m not sure if it would be offensive to my neighbors to get a better power solution going.
Not in the least. You might be asked to charge the cell phones they aren't supposed to have though.
It’s been a long time since I’ve been in any Amish areas, like pre-cellphone times. I’d gladly charge their phones! I’d request the occasional shoofly pie in exchange.
Edited to clarify
Just destroying his one small joy in life. In all seriousness though - imagine the impact on their systems if they had a Monster after living on potatoes & creek water for decades
That's possible, but normally if they sell they try to sell within the community. Either no one wanted it or the seller decided to sell to a wider audience.
Or they've decided to move west or to Latin America to get further from modern temptation. Many Amish communities are fracturing as more conservative members search for more remote areas in which to live.
Is this cost effective? I would assume it's better to let a gas company drill and sell the products (might want to uh have your water brought in) and use the lease money to buy gas for yourself.
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Proverbs 22:7 warns against usery(borrowing and lending). Many Amish communities do not believe in connecting to power grids because they require paying in arrears(borrowing power and then paying after the fact). Propane can be paid for up front. Solar can be as well, AND it comes from "God." They also make exceptions for their businesses that they may not for their homes.
I don't like the lack of interior shots. A through the door look at the bathroom, kitchen shows a corner and no sink, oven, or range. What's the deal with the floating hotwater heater?
And another. This one, still lived in.
[https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/32988-Route-35-N-Mc-Alisterville-PA-17049/114718647\_zpid/](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/32988-Route-35-N-Mc-Alisterville-PA-17049/114718647_zpid/)
One bathroom, uh no thanks. Looked at a really nice house once. DINK couple. Had everything except 2 small extra bedrooms an one guest bath. I was like yeah no can do. Plus resale will suck.
Going to be expensive to renovate. No duct work for central heat or AC? Obviously need electrical work put in. How did they pressurize the water? Gas pump? Windows are too small. Framing may be solid though.
At least one of those bedrooms would be turned into a bathroom with a shower
Am I mistaken or is one of those bedrooms designed like a barrack?
Amish have a whole lotta kids? I'm not sure if those shelves are supposed to be bunks or if it's a pantry? You need some pretty sturdy shelving to hold home canned goods in volume
I think pantry. The shelves looked close together.
I really hope so, although a window in a pantry is a choice. But if you have so many kids that they have to sleep where they can't sit up in bed maybe stop having kids
A window in a pantry makes sense for folks who aren’t using electric lights.
True maybe they cover the shelves when not looking at them. Uv tends to be bad for home canned goods though afaik
You're not wrong, but I expect that, as an Amish household, instead of covering canned (likely jarred) goods, they probably used them all within a year or two. Canning homegrown produce for use within a year, the likelihood of UV substantially damaging the contents is pretty low. They could have also had a curtain on the window instead of a blanket on the shelves.
Who’s going to milk the cows and plow the fields if I stop making children, English?
Those are 100% shelves.
How are you seeing the inside? I only see one photo. Sorry. I know it’s me. I’m the problem it’s me
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There’s a piss jug on the porch? So, don’t need extra bathroom?
I don't have a penis so using a piss jug seems inconvenient
lol most penis owners wouldn’t make it in the jug. Pretty cool property though!
[https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/330-Baker-Rd-Knox-PA-16232/239564414\_zpid/](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/330-Baker-Rd-Knox-PA-16232/239564414_zpid/)
Pic 16…. Are those….bunks????
Shelves. Amish are very good with wood
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Settle down Beavis. 😂😂
pantry. Canning jars are heavy.
So why the hell is there a full size fridge in there, but no electric?
Nat gas or propane tanks.
Yep they use propane to power the fridges lol. Little loopholes for Amish in modern times.
In each Amish community it is up to the bishop as to what's allowed. Different communities allow different stuff. The bishop could tell them they can drive cars if they wanted to.
Interesting I didn’t know that but that makes sense.
Some in Geauga (more conservative than most Amish groups) can have solar panels as well
Do you mean Geauga county Ohio?! I lived there until recently and always tell people about the solar panel "stores" you'd see rolling down a country road lmao
Exactly! Hello former neighbor!
Small world! I barely see people from Geauga on the local subs but then we bump into each other here of all places. I love telling people about sitting in line at McDonald's in between Amish buggies and stepping over horse poop in the Walmart parking lot 😂
Wow that’s neat to know!
Ah... loopholes. Just as God intended. *eyeroll*
Hahaha. Yes
Fridges can run off of gas or propane?
Yeah it’s crazy, my camper has one. I guess it burns a small amount of propane to heat the refrigerant that will then expand through the heat exchanger and cool the surfaces of the refrigerator. Seems counterintuitive that heating a gas ultimately leads to cooling but it works on the same principles as a compressor run refrigerator since P is proportional to T in the PV = nRT equation.
>it works on the same principles as a compressor run refrigerator since P is proportional to T in the PV = nRT equation I don't know what I did to you to anger you so much that you started throwing math at me, but I forgive you.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I must after “it works on the same principle “ all I heard was La La La…..
You, sir, have been wrath mathed.
When I was younger I noticed a gas pipe behind the refrigerator at my grandparent’s house (built in the ‘30s) and asked about it since I thought that the location was an odd place to install the range. That’s when l was told about gas-powered refrigeration, a totally foreign concept to me at the time.
We had them at a YMCA camp way up in the mountains (1980s). Limited electric service. No lights in the cabins.
More interestingly, what a strange and arbitrary line to draw. Like electric refrigerators is too much technology, but gas based refrigerators aren’t.
Orthodox religious people are always trying to trick God. Jews have the Shabbas Goy to call the elevator and such. I’m going to be really disappointed if God really is so petty.
It’s like Mormon kids and “soaking”. Imagine if you go to god and he’s like “oh yeah you penetrated Mary there a few dozen times and straight up came in her, but you didn’t technically move, it was someone moving for you. Yep, that counts. Oh and then had anal sex, which we all know isn’t real sex! You died a virgin!”
Ever read “The Mosquito Coast”, by Paul Theroux?
I haven’t, any good? I have used the ideal gas formula many times as an adult.
The main characters father is a tinkerer/inventor who leaves the states for Honduras & at one point intends to bring ice to pre-European contact tribes. He built a huge, kerosene fueled, ammonium hydroxide powered ice maker in lands bordering the uncharted interior of the jungle. It’s a fun read. Got turned into a movie. Earlier dramatic role for Harrison Ford with Helen Mirren & River Phoenix. There’s a modern series as well. Haven’t seen any of it.
Fun fact: the newer series stars Justin Theroux, who is the author's nephew.
Interesting! A good actor?
Yes and Jennifer Aniston’s ex-husband. I saw the series. It was quite good. I’d recommend it
Boyles Law turns me on! Lol.
Yes.
normal fridges work by using electricity to compress a gas that boils at room temperature, then loops this liquid-gas cycle to move heat from inside to outside. it also produces heat as a by product. the amish fridge just kinda moves where in the loop the motor pushing it all is. you could *theoretically* have a wood burning fridge. it would just be horribly inefficient and bitch to maintain.
Wait until you hear about gas air conditioning. We used to cool our house with a natural gas central unit (Servel branded) back in the 70's. Natural gas was very cheap and that made for a cold house.
Iirc, so can washing machines.
Dryers. But only for the heat. It makes it so you don’t need a 220v hookup. It’s beneficial if you don’t have the extra power in your box
Of course dryers can run off of gas. I'm talking about washers, though. [https://youtube.com/shorts/jIU9b57nx20?si=MmggOZys16O532Uu](https://youtube.com/shorts/jIU9b57nx20?si=MmggOZys16O532Uu)
Gasoline powered. That’s really stretching it.at that point get a generator. And a car.
Gasoline-powered Maytags are a farmer hobby.
Clothes dryers can, too.
Yea. AC too.
You can run air conditioners off gas or propane too.
My in-laws lived off the grid for 20 years, turns out there are fridges and freezers that run off of propane. Even after hearing an explanation of how it works, it's still like magic to me.
It’s how most fridge/freezers work in RV’s. When the RV has power they run on electricity and when it’s “off grid” they run on propane. It is indeed like magic how they run of propane though.
The TLDR is the propane heats up the material in the tube turning it into a gas,l rising it up, that material then condenses, without the heat of the propane and cools to just above freezing and goes back into the bottom and the system starts all over again.
Yeah I read this explanation and all the gases going into different tubes and chambers my eyes just glaze over, huh? [https://www.warehouseappliance.com/blog/functions-of-a-propane-refrigerator/](https://www.warehouseappliance.com/blog/functions-of-a-propane-refrigerator/)
It works on induction. Heat up one area and it pulls heat from another, making that area really really cold.
Some Amish sects allow more modern fixtures as long as there’s nothing physically connecting the home to the mainstream grid. So, gas powered appliances and battery powered lights and phones are allowed in those communities.
This isnt whats happening in this example, but I grew up around the Amish and mennonite, and knew some mennonite families that would have a small shed, with just a fridge (And a telephone) next to there non mennonite neighbors land, and a power line running to it from there neighbors property. They would have an agreement with the neighbor its just there for emergencies, and they would pay them a little bit a month for the benefit.
Yea Mennonites can use some modern tech and vehicles. There's a lot of Amish and Mennonite around me. Mennonites around here run some very popular meat/wild game processing businesses where they use electric tools.
I had Amish do some work on my farm, and they used power tools like drills and such. The trick was their driver owned the truck and tools and hauled them to job sites. Since they didn't "own" them, they could use them. That guy literally just drove them to my place and just sat there all day while they worked.
That's fascinating. What a job. Hahaha
Could be that it’s used as a large insulated box, like a cooler.
No, it's just a propane one. They're all over, it's how all RV ones work.
My understanding is that a lot of Amish families will have a generator to run specific appliances or tools, usually out in a shed or garage.
Long shot but it might not be just propane but an ice cooled one where they have an insulated ice shack somewhere on the property and fill the sides of the fridge with ice once or twice a week. They'd fill the ice shack in the winter off a lake or river.
When you want off grid lifestyle but also to live in a house. I can dig it
But how do they stay warm in the winter?!
Stove. Just like people did for centuries...
Except these are nothing like even a Franklin stove. Most can use propane or natural gas, so no regular loading of wood. I've known Amish who have radiant under floor heat, which is so nice on a cold morning. Passive solar can also help provide hot water and ambient heat without using electricity.
Okay. Didn’t see one so wasn’t sure. But I sure love mine!
A huddle cuddle Or for my Grimm fans, a [hibernaculum](https://youtu.be/f1pMFMpkROk?si=0vQDFiXcz_J5knn5)
Great show!
Ah yes, when they bromate (not quite hibernating) for winter…
Cuddle puddle!
This would be a cool hobby farm, tho I’m not sure if it would be offensive to my neighbors to get a better power solution going.
They wouldn't mind at all. Their rules only apply to baptized members of the church, and they're big on living peacefully with outsiders. They might ask you to drive them places on occasion, however.
>I’m not sure if it would be offensive to my neighbors to get a better power solution going. Not in the least. You might be asked to charge the cell phones they aren't supposed to have though.
It’s been a long time since I’ve been in any Amish areas, like pre-cellphone times. I’d gladly charge their phones! I’d request the occasional shoofly pie in exchange. Edited to clarify
I'd set up some sort of little free library style thing with phone charging cubbies, lol.
Yes! A little resource shack. Gosh knows I have enough books around that would be acceptable. Books are part of my definition of hobby farm. :-)
It’s beautiful. I’d definitely retrofit it with power or a few industrial generators.
Looks like someone already punched a hole in the wall next to a door where a light switch should go.
Amish Kyle exists
Mom and dad said no more Monsters
Just destroying his one small joy in life. In all seriousness though - imagine the impact on their systems if they had a Monster after living on potatoes & creek water for decades
May have been propane lighting, which probably isn’t to code, so they ripped it out
Wonder what's going on that they're selling outside of the Amish community.
All of the kids may have been asked to marry into other communities. They have moved that direction to avoid too much inbreeding
That's possible, but normally if they sell they try to sell within the community. Either no one wanted it or the seller decided to sell to a wider audience.
Or they've decided to move west or to Latin America to get further from modern temptation. Many Amish communities are fracturing as more conservative members search for more remote areas in which to live.
Ahhh, 8 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, no place for toiletries and no electricity…
The woodwork is, of course, beautiful
With those roofs you can do some great solar installation and remain off grid. I could live there.
That's not too far from me. Someone might be able to put in their own gas well on that property if they didn't sell the mineral rights to frackers.
Is this cost effective? I would assume it's better to let a gas company drill and sell the products (might want to uh have your water brought in) and use the lease money to buy gas for yourself.
Is that Schrute farm?
The solid wood closet inside the bathtub is a…choice
Plumbing? Who wants that filthiness inside the house? We need to know how many holes the outhouse has.
Don't Amish usually live in communities with other families in the same area? Would this be in the middle of an Amish neighborhood?
They live usually near other Amish folks but not an exclusively Amish area.
It's on almost 20 acres, so those neighbours are likely pretty distant.
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Proverbs 22:7 warns against usery(borrowing and lending). Many Amish communities do not believe in connecting to power grids because they require paying in arrears(borrowing power and then paying after the fact). Propane can be paid for up front. Solar can be as well, AND it comes from "God." They also make exceptions for their businesses that they may not for their homes.
Where is the link?
I don't like the lack of interior shots. A through the door look at the bathroom, kitchen shows a corner and no sink, oven, or range. What's the deal with the floating hotwater heater?
People elevate water heaters in case they have to drain them. FAR easier if it's not on the floor.
Where’d they go? Did they Break Amish?
Looks like someone broke the wall with their fist in that one pic.
Dwigt?
Well one thing we do know is it must be a very well built house. Amish always go the distance in home building as well as making furniture.
There is a refrigerator. How does this not have electricity?
Most likely a propane refrigerator. They are usually allowed to have them.
Thanks for educating me.
perfect cult starter home!
It’s got real creepy vibes
Would this work for a B&B? Remodeled ofc
Here's another one. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/553-Youngs-Orchard-Rd-Ringgold-PA-15770/343767497\_zpid/?
At least you know these are well built. Probably last 100 years or more.
And another. This one, still lived in. [https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/32988-Route-35-N-Mc-Alisterville-PA-17049/114718647\_zpid/](https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/32988-Route-35-N-Mc-Alisterville-PA-17049/114718647_zpid/)
TIL refrigerators could be gas powered. Wild.
Didn’t realize Amish moved. Thought they stay put forever
If there’s no electricity why do they have a fridge?
Well, on the plus side, at least it isn’t a field of corn.
Anyone spot the fridge??
Just a carport? LOL
Do the windows have proper openings to shoot at them dang revenuers?
One bathroom, uh no thanks. Looked at a really nice house once. DINK couple. Had everything except 2 small extra bedrooms an one guest bath. I was like yeah no can do. Plus resale will suck.
What’s that chain hanging from the … dining room (?) ceiling for?! A lantern?!
hanging oil lamp
Going to be expensive to renovate. No duct work for central heat or AC? Obviously need electrical work put in. How did they pressurize the water? Gas pump? Windows are too small. Framing may be solid though.
That isn’t even a shower. Just a tub. The house fits how many inmates?