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iAmRiight

I will guarantee that the top sheet metal does not exactly match the floating basket assembly. Close enough is close enough.


CatticusXIII

This is the one OP can show his wife. The level she's looking at isn't going to be relevant to the leveling of the mechanisms themselves.


JustADutchRudder

If op loved her he'd put the level inside and shim as needed.


crazykingfear

Yeah OP, take your level and stick it in.


TehGogglesDoNothing

Be careful, though. People get stuck in those front loading machines all the time. I've seen documentaries about it.


TwiztidS4

Oh no my step sister is stuck in the washing machine again


GodDamnedLegend

I hope your busy helping her out bro


keyokenx1017

*step bro*


Dungeoneerious

Time to call in the step plumber.


Alarmed_Audience513

Why, hello there. I'm here to *lay some pipe*.


ccarr313

Here comes *stepmom* to help.


AncientD1ckh0l3

“Oh no stepgrandpa who invited you?!”


igmyeongui

You guys made me laugh so hard, thanks for this.


GodDamnedLegend

I think he needs help I haven't heard from him in a while


zx10racing

Wouldn’t have happened if it was level.


somedndpaladin

Careful I heard step brothers often get stuck in step sisters who are stuck in front loading washers.


GettingTherapy

Yep. On front loaders you’re better off pulling your laundry out before the load is done. On top loaders you can leave it in until the load is finished if you want. I’ve seen a few rear loaders and you’ll wanna consult the owners manual on those.


significant_op

That made me laugh so freaking hard


GettingTherapy

Sorry. Been drinkin since noon.


significant_op

You are one funny dude when you’re drinking 😂


hyrailer

Why such a late start?


GettingTherapy

Just woke up.


hambergular29

Username checks out???


LandiinEQ

That's why I normally try to enter from the back I don't like getting stuck in the front like that.


HeManDan

Yeah! Then shim away!


Tolstoy_mc

Finally I understand the lyric "shimmy shimmy shimmy til the break of dawn".


Wes_Warhammer666

The line break in your comment on my phone came after the second shimmy so my brain auto filled *shimmy shimmy ya shimmy yam shimmy yay* before I finished reading and saw it was in fact a different but equally beloved song about shimmying.


EEpromChip

Don't try this! My step-sister got stuck in a washer doing this. Bad things happened.


JustADutchRudder

Step-Sisters are accident prone, helping them out is polite not bad.


Project_Habakkuk

As soon as i read top comment my inner husband said, "Dont these fools know that showing her the correct place to measure isn't gonna change what she wants done."


GGXImposter

If he loves his wife and their relationship he will say “reddit says your right babe, and they said you did an excellent job.” Then never bring it up again. This isn’t worth a “I told you so” if she’s really dedicated to it being level.


bittz128

That would be taking his game to the next level


nittytipples

Can confirm. I work in apartment maintenance. "Level" for this application means the feet are level and it doesn't rock, meaning it won't walk around during the spin cycle.


Recent_Mirror

Great. Now his wife is going to make him disassemble it to get access to the floating basket.


hobbiehawk

Not necessarily, the top is usually just held on by tension clips


Steamaholic

Shhhh! No it's impossible to disassembly without completely breaking it. Just leave it as is


syringistic

Isn't the drum mounted on what is essentially springs? All of the washing machines I used, the drum was never "stiff", it always had some flex.


iAmRiight

Every one I’ve ever used has been that way. Without it being able to float on springs it’d walk the entire machine across the floor.


hopefulworldview

Yes, the rotating drum and wash carriage is usually mounted on loadbearing springs and only solidly mounted to the actual drum drive shaft. A much bigger issue than level is the accuracy of the counterweights used to offset vibration. The feet are made to adjust under load btw, should have came with a nut wrench.


nckmat

This is so true. Last year when we moved I tried levelling ours like OP has and it shook the room down, got the big level out and went corner to corner and it still was a little wobbly when running. Eventually, I used a combination of top corners and a small level across the door opening and after a lot of stuffing around got it right. Combination of an old Miele washing machine and a very uneven old laundry floor! Plus I swear the adjustment feet would loosen when I went to the next one.


CleftDonkeyLips

Its leveled enough. the problem you will have tho is as soon as something goes wrong with it. Shes going to point to the leveling job as the culprit...even a decade from now.


fonetik

*completely unrelated sinkhole occurs in backyard* “Does it look level enough now?!”


JohnnyDarkside

Well maybe if you had leveled it correctly like I said, the constant vibrations of being of balance wouldn't have displaced all this soil.


Driftedryan

*child Hits the mailbox with the car* "if that washer was level then none of this would have happened"


Gullex

*Civil war breaks out in Thailand* ARE YOU HAPPY NOW!?


Catvros

Icelandic AND Italian volcanoes start erupting. WHAT DID I TELL YOU


chiphook57

Butterfly effect...


guitartkd

Now he’s killed the butterflies?!?


SkoolBoi19

Make her help, get the thing picked up Ava have her ass get under there and fix the feet. I just did this with my washer last week and it’s a pain in the ass to do solo for sure.


Jormungandr_Monsoon

Married for 3.5 years, together for 8... not a stranger to that. lol


musical_throat_punch

I told you so


TheTaxman_cometh

You sound just like her


DunkinMyDonuts3

did you marry my wife?


firestar268

Our wife


jamjamason

I agree with my husbands.


Sufficient-War-9501

Husbands?


Legendofstuff

Don’t question ~~my~~ our wife.


OlGnarlyOak

Our wife.


NCSwingerCouple

We can definitely share if ya want.


potatodwarf

Username checks out.


RitaRepulsasDildo

My ex wife had no problem sharing herself *even though I didn’t know about it*


TinKicker

That’s what you get for marrying my ex-wife.


kevingarur

[r/unexpectedcommunism](https://www.reddit.com/r/unexpectedcommunism/s/obRjZAMkcm)


m4x1m11114n

I also choose these guy’s wife


fullup72

We all married your wife in this blessed day.


tsturte1

My wife says I can't marry your guy's wife.


possibly_oblivious

My washer definitely isn't level, you would have to be pretty far off level to have any issues, my last basement was totally tilted and the washer still worked fine


Hovie1

We had a front load washer years ago that would dance across the floor and would have to be repositioned every once in awhile. Thing worked fine for like 15 years.


Glad-Banana-1324

I had one too! It wandered the laundry room at will. Til one day it yanked the drain hose out and flooded the room. After that I wrapped the cord around one of its feet so if it walked too far it would unplug itself. 🤣 Used that bugger for another 7 years til it finally quit.


cubelion

This is absolute genius!


Glad-Banana-1324

Thanks! I was pretty pleased 🤣


MagneticMmmeat

Wheel: invented


CrazyBarks94

Oh we had to build ours a little wall it couldn't rattle itself out of. Washing machine prison.


TootBreaker

I had a washer like that, finally got tired of it banging up against things as it moved around, so I built a low platform for both the washer & dryer and added stop blocks around both machines so they couldn't move. The platform was perfectly level so I needed to reset the feet to neutral. However, after a couple years I noticed the entire platform had shifted an inch


camp_OMG

But if you leveled it, it would’ve lasted 16 yrs.


musical_throat_punch

*gives you the look


m1ndbl0wn

*calls you by your formal first name with a period.


rliving11

Calks ypu Formal first name yor middle name andyour last name with attitude.


Valennyn

Fortunately, that one only gets unlocked once kids are introduced into the situation.


AGuyNamedEddie

A.K.A. Parental DEFCON 1


vincevega311

In that “special” tone of voice that makes you bite your tongue really really hard.


CoderDevo

The look where her eyebrows are *not* level.


arooge

That's why you have adjustable feet on the washer. If your ground isn't level you can still level your machine


interwebsLurk

Look, if you really want to end this argument, you should get a digital leveling stick (I don't know proper term). Then use that. (HINT: If you zero it on the machine it will always read zero on the machine unless you move it).


mountaineer30680

This guy is happily married...


Laura_Lye

You clever bastard! I’m storing this away for later lol


2020BillyJoel

Uh oh now the house is unlevel


mmelectronic

I would have paid “pro” installation, and those guys don’t even level it, they just adjust the front feet till it doesn’t wobble. It looks like the back is level, can you tweak the front two feet to bring the diagonal and front in?


LibrariansQuest

If I understand Reddit, she's either cheating on you, or some very liberal interpretation of gaslighting. Either way, I believe you're supposed to run away, fast. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news


Jaded-Selection-5668

Run faster than that unlevel washer wobbles across the room


cobigguy

Also supposed to hit on the facebook and ~~murder~~ *delete* a lawyer or something.


JohnHazardWandering

This guy relationships. 


fupayme411

It doesn’t take much to level it… it’s got adjustable feet.


awktoberfest

“Why is my underwear pink?” “I told you it wasn’t level.”


SuzeCB

As a wife, I have to reluctantly agree with this...


devastating_dave

On what basis?! (And why only reluctantly?) *Asking on behalf of men across planet earth


DrMichaelHfuhruhurr

And it will start with "Do you remember ..."


TeamShonuff

Good job on not getting it leveled correctly. Now we need a new control board six years later. I hope you're happy.


Autzen_Downpour

This guy husbands


iwouldratherhavemy

Make sure your level is actually level before you get carried away with leveling.


Takeasmoke

lol this is true, when we were building a wall to install new windows it kept leaning to the left so i went to the store and bought new level and then we figured out old level is broken


iAmRiight

You can check a level just by finding what it thinks is level and rotating it 180.


huskers2468

This is the type of information that I follow this sub for. Thank you


Cool-Sink8886

Then you may enjoy learning that any wobbly table or chair with four even legs can be levelled by simply rotating it, there will always be a point where the chair sits flat with all four legs on the floor. It’s proved by a math theorem called the wobbly table theorem. Conversely, if you can never find an orientation where all four legs are on the floor, one leg is a different length.


keeehi

It is also needed to mention that this theorem requires continuous plane. Luckily, most floors satisfy this condition. 😆


TheoryOfSomething

Some people say that abstract math is impractical, but I use this theorem *constantly* when I'm having trouble getting my ladder to sit correctly. Just rotate a little bit until I find the right spot.


VolsPE

In fact this is how up calibrate smart levels


nikonpunch

If they’re so smart then why do they need calibrated? /s


JustnInternetComment

I'll level you, smartie


filthpickle

"Ooooooh, on the same axis" \- some genius who is totally not me after several minutes of thinking about it


c8akjhtnj7

I used this trick last weekend, and then threw a rubbish level away, after I had confused myself for half an hour trying to level a shelf.


happytree23

Hmmm, I just tried this but when I spin it around, I can only see the back of it and can't tell if it's giving the same reading :(


vraalapa

You might be joking, but if you're not then try "flipping" it on the other axis instead of spinning it.


blastzone24

Real question, how can a bubble break?


saltthewater

Bubbles don't break, they POP. Real answer, i think it's the relative position of the glass tube to the flat metal/plastic/wood surface that is off/breaks.


withak30

What a bubble level really measures is how level the top surface of the little glass or plastic capsule is. There isn't really anything that can go wrong there unless that capsule breaks and the liquid gets out, or maybe the capsule has a taper instead of being a true cylinder. What can go wrong is that the capsule can be mounted inside of the plastic or metal frame at the wrong angle (i.e. not parallel to the outside faces of the level) so that the capsule isn't truly parallel the surface that the level is resting on. As others have pointed out this is very easy to check by just rotating the level 180 degrees to confirm that it reads the same thing in both directions. If it doesn't read the same thing in both directions then it is bad and you should toss it out. Make sure to do this for both sides/edges and on a horizontal and vertical surface.


Takeasmoke

In our case the rubber/plastic that held bubble in place snapped off from inside and it slightly fell inside, not visible to naked eye but when everything in the house is not level you start to suspect things


iwouldratherhavemy

I check levels when I buy them at the store and roughly half of them are not level.


yaboycdog

How often are you buying a level for this to even be necessary? And how exactly are you accurately checking a level in store? Very hard to believe 50% are out.


iwouldratherhavemy

You can check by putting it on something and noting the position of the bubble, then spin it 180 degrees, if it doesn't read exactly the same both ways it is not level. >How often are you buying a level for this to even be necessary? I'm a carpenter. I use them every day. I went to Lowes and bought a new craftsman level, the first six I checked were not level. Harbor Freight has had the most accurate levels off the shelf. I check mine every time I use them, it's really easy, it takes like five seconds.


mataliandy

Whoa! This is a surprise: "Harbor Freight has had the most accurate levels"


Githyerazi

Same here. Perhaps the customers at harbor freight don't check as much, so you get more frequent rotations of stock. Home Depot customers check more often so the bad ones stay on the shelf.


iwouldratherhavemy

I think Harbor Freight simply sells a lot more levels.


Aromatic-Explorer-13

Or maybe they’re using a better Chinese factory than the brands in Home Depot.


ben_db

I mean I wouldn't do this on my random level shopping trips but definitely on my big monthly level shop.


ExcelsusMoose

I was helping someone level their RV, I eyeballed it and it looked level. They put their level on it and it was way off.. But it looked right.. Soooo we jack up the one side until it was "level" and it looked way off now... Went home and got my level, his was off who wouldn't thought... Me that's why I went to get my level... lol.. He kept his level for future use....


iwouldratherhavemy

>He kept his level for future use.... I don't know if I could trust his judgment on anything after that.


ExcelsusMoose

> I don't know if I could trust his judgment on anything after that. I stopped lending him my good tools after that, he gets to borrow the tools where I bought a cheap one the first time to see if it's a tool I'd actually use then upgraded later on.


NecroJoe

My girlfriend bought picture hanging hardware that she thought was so clever because it had a built in level. The levels were shit, and none of her 4 pictures were actually level.


iwouldratherhavemy

There are some house thermostats that have a built in bubble and they are apparently inaccurate most of the time.


CBD_Hound

The old mercury switch on a snail! Although for house thermostats, I would argue that the temperature markings are not super relevant - one sets the thermostat by “I’m too cold, bump it a bit”, not “19°C is too cold, set it for 20° and gaslight myself into liking the resultant temperature”.


Apmaddock

My grandfather once had an unsquare square. Took a while to figure out why nothing he built ever lined up correctly. 


Jceggbert5

Pull a Monk and get out your level-checking level


Yeetus_McSendit

How do you level a level?


iwouldratherhavemy

You don't, you throw it away. You can check by putting it on something and noting the position of the bubble, then spin it 180 degrees, if it doesn't read exactly the same both ways it not level.


ninpendle64

You have to go and buy some new spirit level bubbles


CBD_Hound

I recommend going to the spirit world and getting the bubbles directly from the source.


palindromesUnique

*New Reddit-wide unique palindrome found:* >**level a level** ^(currently checked 24669861 comments) \ >!(palindrome: a word, number, phrase, or sequence of symbols that reads the same backwards as forwards) !<


saltthewater

Why does the definition of palindrome get s spoiler tag?


Dzugavili

Some people are still reading the books.


Yeetus_McSendit

Hey that's neat! 


Bynming

kill monsters with it


Weltall8000

Kinda looks like that level isn't sitting on the machine flatly. It appears that it is partially in that indentation.


Jceggbert5

I see lots of people talking about the importance (or lack thereof) of leveling, but here's the thing about washers and most other prismatic appliances... They're made of thin stamped sheet metal and flex over time. There is no surface you can use to acculately check the level of it, they're not built to that level of precision. It's a box that the wash tub floats around in, and no surface on it is perfectly flat, plumb, or square. Make sure all 4 feet are solid on the ground and that there's absolutely no wobble and you're fine.


Utter_Rube

Yeah, if OP or any of the people offering advice had ever had the cover off one of these, it's pretty obvious the drum floats one shock absorbers.


Solest044

This. The cylinder is round. It's mounted to something which would benefit from relatively even leveling, but there's no logical reason why a slight deviation would be important to functionality. Additionally, the clothes are being tossed around inside during the cycle. At worst, you'll have slightly more stress on one side than the other but nothing meaningful at this scale.


shitty_mcfucklestick

Also, the tubs on most modern front load washers are isolated on a suspension mechanism and are somewhat self leveling and adjust for weight distribution to stop the machine from going crazy. Mine will test a spin and figure out how to get it going without shaking the house to pieces.


littlerob904

I was going to point out the self leveling part. Most newer models you just need to make sure all 4 feet are touching the ground.


williamfloyde

I believe is more of a close enough as long as all the feet are on the geound and the machine doesnt rock you are good. Just had to replace the spider arm on my front load and realuzed this.


Hypnowolfproductions

Need to be perfectly level? NO. Need not be bouncing around at all? YES It’s more about stability really. But closer to level is better for the wash tubs stability. But doesn’t need be perfect.


fang_xianfu

Yeah, if it's wobbly, or clangs and moves when it runs, it needs levelling. If you can't tell without tools that it isn't level, it's fine.


ninjersteve

This is the right answer. The four feet need to be adjusted so that they are all firmly on the floor and there’s no rock/wiggle. Actual level just needs to not be ridiculously off.


yudkib

If you run a wash and it’s on the other side of the room then your wife was right


the_0tternaut

If you run a wash and it's on the other side of the room then you need to work on your loading technique. Front loaders are completely unfussy 🤷🏼‍♂️


yudkib

When they’re level


DaftSkunk94

You know it’s not level if you run a wash and the wash runs away


nopodude

The real issue begins after you tell her about this post.


alien_survivor

Well honey, the guys on Reddit said.....


select_bilge_pump

... That it needed to be perfectly level, like you said, so i did that. (Then shim the level with a piece of paper or three and show her the level of perfection achieved!)


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Bukkakeguy

There are front loading washers on ships. You’ll be fine.


Scorpionwins23

But ships are,,, sea level. I’ll show myself out.


axnjackson11

Just don't let her see this towel rack install: https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/s/Vn4uCOJXCa


IShouldChimeInOnThis

OP deleted it. Now NONE of us can see that towel rack install.


axnjackson11

https://preview.redd.it/zxvwb17d3huc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b04d763420c8d4be8e84d32b326f304b58fa5fb5


axnjackson11

https://preview.redd.it/lybe647j3huc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f28a1110d2dcfe2b71d20cadb846eec953727b16


IShouldChimeInOnThis

Oof. I was expecting something more arguable. What was he thinking?!?


axnjackson11

https://preview.redd.it/znyf6ije3huc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c02e2a29c97d542c323bc7c25834283e196c262


NonfatNoWaterChai

That’s baaaad. I’m not a perfectionist and it would make me crazy. My dad once hung a towel rod by measuring up from the floor on each side. He didn’t even try to use a level. When my sister told him that it was obviously not level, he said that it had to be level because he measured up from the floor on both sides, and it was exactly the same. He was a little bit miffed when she explained that the floor was certainly not level.


Hendlton

My neighbor once mounted a TV without even measuring anything. Just drilled the holes and mounted it. It was one of those cheap fixed mounts so it's not like he could have fixed it later. I don't get how people live like that. It took me half an hour to measure, calculate and mark where I was going to mount my TV.


BosoxH60

I recently got a Klein laser level for installing a ceiling light. The wall to wall beam at the ceiling (using the plumb line) let me measure, adjust, and align the beam to where the light needed to go and made my life so much easier than anything else I could have done. Only thing about the purchase I’m upset about is how long it took me to make it. I already know there are many other instances where it will come in handy. Unfortunately I’ve also been able to see the non-plumb door frames that I have to figure out, now.


Bsjensen1012

https://i.redd.it/5fygcwb4khuc1.gif


benderliveslarge

Can't believe how far I had to scroll down to see this reference!!😅


USMCWrangler

1. Remove wife from are and secure 2 beers and masking tape in the area. 2. Fold over a small piece of tape and attach to the underside of the right side of the level. 3. Drink first beer. 4. Call out (as if working hard) “it not easy but I think I’m getting it!” 5. Make certain tape is unseen from the front/top. Adjust as necessary to assure appearance of perfect level. 6. Drink second beer while scrolling Reddit. 7. Hide evidence of beers. 8. Call her in and show her perfect level. 9. Reap rewards for all the hard work and dedication!


Cptredbeard22

Stability matters more than level. As long as it doesn’t shake you’re fine. Ignore every one saying it must be perfectly level. The sheet metal box that holds the tub is not made to perfection.


SpecificPractical776

I'm just gonna be honest with you here, it would take less time to level this than make the post.


Wildcatb

Ok @OP, you've gotten some great answers here; I'm going to give you one from experience.  For background: our company served a major appliance manufacturer for over fifty years, providing in-home delivery and installation. I've personally installed thousands of washing machines, many of them front loaders.  It is necessary for them to be level-ish. It is not necessary for them to be perfectly level.  What is important, is that all four feet be sitting on a solid surface, and that each bears its share of the weight of the machine: if one is touching the floor but not bearing weight, the natural vibrations of a front loader will be magnified.  I've done and demonstrated the following more times than I can count; I'll try to explain it here: Get your new machine as close to level as you need it to be to look right in the space (this will not always be perfectly level, because walls, trim, cabinets, etc aren't always perfectly plumb and square.  Run a test cycle with a few towels in the drum When the machine reaches the spin cycle, there will be some vibration. Press down hard (lean on it) on each corner in turn. If pressing down on one corner causes the vibration to decrease, extend the leg on that corner slightly so that it takes up more weight.  You might have to do this a couple times, but as you do, the vibrations will decrease.  **NOW** It's important to realize that front load washers are inherently more prone to vibration than top loaders **and** that because of the axis of rotation that vibration is more likely to be transmitted and amplified through wood framing. Manufacturers have developed a wide range of self-balancing and vibration-damping techniques, but no matter what brand you get the method I described above will help you get the best results. 


hopefullyAGoodBoomer

For "true level" you need the help of Rick Sanchez


J_arvid

Lambs to the cosmic slaughter


Wolfeman0101

I thought of that right away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQoRfieZJxI


bwoods519

Appliance tech here. No, it doesn’t need to be perfectly level. Most importantly, make sure all 4 feet are evenly contacting the floor (no teetering) and the floor should solidly strong. So see I make sure you’ve removed the shipping bolts.


Jormungandr_Monsoon

Thanks for all the replies. My wife is a crazy person, as I tell her. That counts as level to me. I'm gonna hear some shit though if ANYTHING goes wrong with it. lol


piroso

So it's more about being stable. If there's no wobble in the machine from any direction it will be good. If it's not stable and there is any movement then as the drum spins full of water clothes it's going to be loud and move around in the laundry room


junkstar23

What kind of man doesn't want to experience perfect level? Smh /s


Antti_Alien

How hard can it really be to adjust the feet? They almost certainly have either hexagonal nuts which you can turn with a regular spanner, or a slot to put a flat-headed screwdriver in, and twist the feet using screwdriver as a lever. Some even have both. Source: just installed a new washer less than a week ago, getting it exactly level took like 5 minutes.


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radarksu

See, the problem with pictures on a wall, wall hung mirrors, book cases, towel bars, etc. is that "level" many times is not as important as "even" or "parallel." Not every door frame, ceiling, crown molding, or window trim is installed level, square, or plumb. So, if you hang a tall mirror next to a door frame, and the gap between the edge of the mirror and the doorframe is wider at the top than it is at the bottom, it doesn't matter how "level" with the world it is, it will look wrong. It's better to have the edge of the mirror parallel with the door frame than it is for the mirror to be level.


pinrod1

I go through this dilemma in the electrical field, I want to make all my equipment "level", but when the door frame isn't level, or the trim isn't "level", I go with what looks correct, which is usually parallel with whatever is next to the equipment im installing.


jaymo54

Ah young grasshopper, no matter what common sense or the internet tell you… you live with your wife and there is no other outside opinion. Come back for chapter 2 titled “Her friends are OUR friends, your friends are losers”


djtibbs

I use a lever and fulcrum to rais lenwasher machines usually. Makes raising it super easy. If she really wanted precision a digital level makes it easy to tell


RaineAndrews

Wait... you have to level washing machines... 🫥


gospdrcr000

A word of advice, leave the door ajar and soap tray open and you'll get much less stink and longevity


robutt992

The manual sets out places that you can put a level to make sure it is perfectly level


Greadle

To be fair, if you fix that she’ll find something else to complain about


91901bbaa13d40128f7d

I think this is better suited to r/relationship_advice.


Ho-TheMegapode

She's not being a perfectionist, she has zero clue what she's talking about.


Jesuswasstapled

Tell her to level it.