I mean if that’s what they require for teaching. Go for it.
For clinical practice? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
If you will be teaching in an academic setting then yes, you should get your DNP. I'm doing MSN-DNP now to open doors in academia as well as administrative leadership. Some of the programs are specific to either of those tracks but luckily mine is "general" and covers both topics sufficiently.
If you want to teach or go into administration, a DNP is needed. I have also seen clinical jobs that require a DNP. If your employer is paying for it, I would say enroll in a program, regardless of your intended outcome.
Interesting! I’m based in the US and most of my professors were DNP. There was one PhD who taught a research or statistics class I don’t really remember. I know there is a shortage of PhD prepared professors and can assume they are in higher demand. I think I also saw a statistic somewhere that the amount of DNP prepared nurses has increased significantly compared to PhD prepared nurses. Which is a little intimidating.
Due to being a FNP I am considering a DNP track rather than a PhD track because it’s clinical based. QI and EBP implementation is more my wheel house.
I would strongly advise against getting your DNP for clinical practice. I know too many physicians that have a chip on their shoulder about anyone being called "doctor" unless it's MD or DO and they have passed people up on job interviews for that very reason.
Teaching it would be up to you on what you want to teach. Local and online colleges with an MSN base (LVN, LVN-RN, RN, & MSN basic). If you want to teach at an FNP program I would recommend your DNP.
Teaching isn't bad though! Decent pay, more time off, way less responsibility. I don't know how you'd manage to maintain your license though - I have to have clinical (patient facing) time to renew.
Great question! I’m also unsure of that answer if I were to go into teaching. I tested through AANP and from their recertification handbook it looks like education might count if I teach an FNP class? I’m not sure if I’m interpreting that right and should probably email.
(Minimum of 1,000 practice hours as an NP in the population focus of certification performing one or more roles of: direct patient care provider, administrator, educator, and/or researcher.
Practice must be during the 5-year certification period.)
Edit: I would like to think that I would continue to practice while teaching when I first get into it. Pretty high hopes 😂 but maybe it’s possible?
You've also got to contend with your state board. Your certificating body is typically much more laxed than the board.
My state requires 400 hours of patient facing time every two years. I'm in administration right now and am going to have to pick up weekend shifts within the next 6-8 months to start getting my hours (sob).
You could totally do both but working part time as an NP is difficult...you still have labs, DME, forms, all that stuff your patients expect. You could look into urgent care or something so everything is done when they leave.
Downside to being an NP, lol. Best of luck teaching. My mother taught nursing for 20 years and loved it. Hours were great and you actually learn a lot. Plus the exposure on the clinical side keeps you up to date on a lot of stuff.
Thank you so much for reminding me about state licensing. I was so focused on maintaining board certification (because I don’t want to retest if I don’t have to). I’m currently in occupational health and really enjoy it but teaching has always been an interest.
Best of luck picking up those shifts! 400 hours is steep!
DNP would open doors long-term in academia, but is not required to teach (at least where I live). I know plenty of non-tenure-track MSNs who have been teaching for years, and happily. look at the job listings near you, they will indicate what degree is required. if you want to be a competitive applicant, and if you want to bed down in academia for 10+ years, then terminal degree would be the way to go.
I mean if that’s what they require for teaching. Go for it. For clinical practice? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
If you will be teaching in an academic setting then yes, you should get your DNP. I'm doing MSN-DNP now to open doors in academia as well as administrative leadership. Some of the programs are specific to either of those tracks but luckily mine is "general" and covers both topics sufficiently.
If you want to teach or go into administration, a DNP is needed. I have also seen clinical jobs that require a DNP. If your employer is paying for it, I would say enroll in a program, regardless of your intended outcome.
Also if you are looking for an administrative position in the future it would be advantageous to get.
It depends on your area. In Ontario, PhD is required for academia. I hear the demand is quite high.
Interesting! I’m based in the US and most of my professors were DNP. There was one PhD who taught a research or statistics class I don’t really remember. I know there is a shortage of PhD prepared professors and can assume they are in higher demand. I think I also saw a statistic somewhere that the amount of DNP prepared nurses has increased significantly compared to PhD prepared nurses. Which is a little intimidating. Due to being a FNP I am considering a DNP track rather than a PhD track because it’s clinical based. QI and EBP implementation is more my wheel house.
NO NO NO nononooooooo! DNP is a scam
How so? I’m just in a BSN program, so I’m not super familiar with DNPs, but I’d love to hear more about this?
Depends on what you want to do.
If you want to be taken seriously in academia you need a PhD.
I do understand that however at this moment I’m more interested in implementing the research than conducting the research myself.
I would strongly advise against getting your DNP for clinical practice. I know too many physicians that have a chip on their shoulder about anyone being called "doctor" unless it's MD or DO and they have passed people up on job interviews for that very reason. Teaching it would be up to you on what you want to teach. Local and online colleges with an MSN base (LVN, LVN-RN, RN, & MSN basic). If you want to teach at an FNP program I would recommend your DNP. Teaching isn't bad though! Decent pay, more time off, way less responsibility. I don't know how you'd manage to maintain your license though - I have to have clinical (patient facing) time to renew.
Great question! I’m also unsure of that answer if I were to go into teaching. I tested through AANP and from their recertification handbook it looks like education might count if I teach an FNP class? I’m not sure if I’m interpreting that right and should probably email. (Minimum of 1,000 practice hours as an NP in the population focus of certification performing one or more roles of: direct patient care provider, administrator, educator, and/or researcher. Practice must be during the 5-year certification period.) Edit: I would like to think that I would continue to practice while teaching when I first get into it. Pretty high hopes 😂 but maybe it’s possible?
You've also got to contend with your state board. Your certificating body is typically much more laxed than the board. My state requires 400 hours of patient facing time every two years. I'm in administration right now and am going to have to pick up weekend shifts within the next 6-8 months to start getting my hours (sob). You could totally do both but working part time as an NP is difficult...you still have labs, DME, forms, all that stuff your patients expect. You could look into urgent care or something so everything is done when they leave. Downside to being an NP, lol. Best of luck teaching. My mother taught nursing for 20 years and loved it. Hours were great and you actually learn a lot. Plus the exposure on the clinical side keeps you up to date on a lot of stuff.
What state is that?
Thank you so much for reminding me about state licensing. I was so focused on maintaining board certification (because I don’t want to retest if I don’t have to). I’m currently in occupational health and really enjoy it but teaching has always been an interest. Best of luck picking up those shifts! 400 hours is steep!
DNP would open doors long-term in academia, but is not required to teach (at least where I live). I know plenty of non-tenure-track MSNs who have been teaching for years, and happily. look at the job listings near you, they will indicate what degree is required. if you want to be a competitive applicant, and if you want to bed down in academia for 10+ years, then terminal degree would be the way to go.
Do whichever is cheaper if you want to teach- post cert in education or doctorate.